*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ* *Obsoletes your insanely expensive boomer cold war machines*
brown thread
>>65007347*BRAAAAAAAAAAAP**Shits and dies in your thread*
OP's picture is actually of an obsolete cold war war machine.
>>65007347*blocks your path*
>>65007347heh, nothing personnel kiddo
>>65007347Ironically it wasn't even iranian design. They found a dud harpy and reverse engineered itHell plenty of Iran's "top" tier weapons were reverse engineered jewish space magick wunderwaffe lmao
>>65007347It's unironically a boomer cold war desing, kek.
>>65007365It's "personal", you kike.
>>65007395
>>65007395pradeep you need more training before you shill here
>>65007395Get a load of this newfag!
>>65007395Is this how you spot shills? Reference memes that existed before 2016?
>>65007395haBIBI
Well, this thread has now been derailed (thank god). What do we do when we run out of ancient memes?
>>65007347Then why are you posting a drone designed in the 80s?
>>65007789Make up new memes and insist they're actually super old and obscure. Especially if they're genuinely funny or took effort to draw/ shoop, shills hate genuinely funny things
>>65007347*be from cold war**crus the turdy tech*
>>65007903I'm super butthurt nobody has upgraded it to the ultimate form: AESA solid-state radars, AHEAD module, IRST and 4 MANPADS.
>>65007365that's really impressive shooting is it not?
>>65008007>Tunguska at home
>>65008026Except it actually works as intended.
>>65008038except it doesn't exist (yet?)Rheinmetall makes something like that, a turret thingy that can take a gun or a laser and has radar and IR integratedbut they don't believe in missiles
>>65008062I know about Skyranger, I was referring to the various prototype upgrade programs for the Gepard, which included some (if not all) of the items I had mentioned.
>>65008150I saw a pic of the one with the AESA radar but I can't find it now
>>65007395bait/10
>>65007347I hear brown countries even use these for casevac and escort
>>65007395Extraordinary bait
>>65007903...as it expends enough ammunition for comparable cost of drone being manufactured.
>>650082301:1 exchange is acceptablethe problem with these systems is they are short range and quite expensive to manufacture, you can't really cover a 2000 km frontline with them, you defend some valuable assets and that's that, everyone else gets to meet mr. Shahed
>>65008017>firing from an unstable platform >at a moving target>at distance>with wind shear of 100+ mph>and doing it in 7 shotsthere's less than a 1,000 people in the world that can do that. probably more like 100
>>65007347Will they be saving Ayatollah #4 or #5 then?
>>65008230and what of the costs saved by the drone's target not being destroyed?hell, even before taking that into account, a 1:1 trade is still a win if your enemies are thirdworlders with a fraction of your economic strength
>>65008351>>65008241Shahed/Geran is single use just as a missile unlike Gepard that is far more complex system.Being a vehicle with two radars, two guns, far more moving components and consumes more fuel per hour than Shahed/Geran drone does during several hours of flight towards distant target.Even if a Gepard was to have kill count of 50 of these drones, it would require barrel replacements for the cannons which certainly cost far more a drone, but still far cheaper than using MANPADS against Shahed/Geran.
>>65007353Israel IP (You)
>>65007609Unironically yes. The vast, overwhelming majority of information that shills (bots) are trained on/from are things that started to get saved in the age of Big Data, which was functionally post 2016. If you know shibboleths or things that could act as them, you have an instant leg up over the vast majority of psyop campaigns since only those that were fed obscure information from closed cultural practices can pass. This is, depending on what you're referencing or how you reference them next to impossible to get the proper answer back so shills, bots, and other bad actors have to bail or make so plain that they don't belong as for it to be a farce.
>>65008017>>65008292Its probably not even a guaranteed kill even if you hit it. That being said, I'd like to see where the missed bullets are going. I Imagine they travel quite far
>beats your drone shitDrones are a meme only useful when there is literally zero air power. In the Israel/US-Iran conflict they are a non-factor compared to the missiles that costs hundreds of thousands. They work in the Russia-Ukraine conflict because neither side have any air power or radar support
>>65009581I think people living in eastern Ukraine have bigger things to worry about than six stray .223 bullets landing in a field at 300 fps.
>>65007347*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ**Loses 4 Heads of State, entire Navy, Air Force, and nearly all missiles*Yeah.
>>65007395>>/pol/yp getting caught this easily
>>65009595OP is a retarded brownoid who still beleives in the 'they have 10 billion 2$ drones while we have 50 $10 gorjillian missile defense systems' meme that was popular in week 2. This was before Iran's striking catered and they focused almost entirely on keeping the strait in a weird state of "closed" where they say that it is open and closed at the same time.
>>65007789Unironically go to racism. The easiest way to catch third world/Chinese spy/shills is by being racist.
>>65007389>supply meets demand
>>65009603>brownoids They truly don't understand the level of KILL the United States can bring down on them, the last 90 years for third world shitstains has been solely due to the goodwill and sympathy of the United States, not because of any inate quality of these subhuman savages. If the US TRULY wanted the entirety of the "third world" dead then it would only take 90 fucking days to do so. The US could whip up bioweapons that would make the T-Virus and the Rage Virus seem like a bad cold, and unleash so many accurate nuclear weapons that you could have Threads in one country while business as normal in another.
>>65009624No one is going to do that until we actually get off this planet. When you have colonies THEN we can have those wars
>>65009592It's less a "that could hurt someone" thing and more a "I wonder how far it can go" thing. Its like seeing Tracers bounce off the ground and fly into the sky
>>65007365Shooting out of a plane with an infantry weapon. This is how aerial warfare started.
this cartoon man tried to warn us 30 years ago that drones would make war gay and stupid. why didn't we listen?
>>65009587ok anon go stare at the sky for 8 hours looking for drones.
>>65009658>go stare at the sky for 8 hoursNigger what do you think miliaries do?
>>65007347>*Obsoletes your insanely expensive boomer cold war machines*>In a moment of need, a weapon to surpass Moistly Geer appears..
>>65007365
>>65007347>Gets shot down by shit from before the Great War
>>65008607>it would require barrel replacements for the cannons which certainly cost far more a drone Oerlikon GDFs are relatively common light AA guns, so spare barrels shouldn't be too expensive.
>>65010402Gun is gun.
>>65007365Imagine what that guy could do with a stabilized turret. Modernized Bolton Paul Defiant when?
>>65010426nothing wrong with the Maxim except the weight and how hard it is to change barrelsnot that you need to change them all that often, it being watercooled and all
>>65007365Only now i noticed that the guy was in the air and not on the ground. What the fuck?
>>65007347>thirdies can only engage in fantasy makebelieve nowKek
>>65007347I'd pay big monies for an emotional support Shahed plush tbqh.
>>65011197>I'd pay big monies for an emotional support Shahed plush tbqh.I live in Kyiv and I can't say whether I'm for or against sleeping with a shahed plushy.I know I don't want to explain it to the police if they ever come knocking though.
>>65012109Just get yourself an FP2 plushie.
>>65011197So, are they actually selling those?Cause I bought the plush land mine/grenades and man, that would be fucking hilarious to add.
>>65012123>Just get yourself an FP2 plushie.I think a stinger (interceptor drone) would be a better idea.It synergises well with the idea of sleeping peacefully.
>>65007365Why I can't get this sort of job? How did I ended an office drone? What did I do to deserve this?
>>65010521Cessna with the door gunner upgrade package
>>65012202>He doesn't sleep soundly at night knowing that ziggers are being removed at this very moment
>>65012210>Why I can't get this sort of job?Because you're not a hobbyist pilot of soviet-era aircraft.>How did I ended an office drone?Insufficientially autistic to devote sufficient money, energy, and time to a project as all-consuming as a privately owned aircraft.>What did I do to deserve this?You failed to devote yourself to an autistic pursuit of an dream.
>>65012210Just get your pilot's license and move to Ukraine.
>>65012220>He doesn't sleep soundly at night knowing that ziggers are being removed at this very momentI'm trying to work out how to contact Sternenko to suggest Stinger plushies as his next fund-raiser for interceptor and FPV drones.
>>65012109Apparently there's an actual Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 plush that exists (picrel) and can be bought, and by extension, apparently Baykar has a shop where they sell more plushies of their drone models. It might be of interest to you.>>65012131Fuck no, this is just some hastily made AI bullshit I threw together in Gemini because I thought it'd be a funny meme (surprisingly enough I never got filtered for it).
>>65012455Well, fuck.(image unrelated)
>>65009624Delusional.And also retarded. Your super-bioweapon? If it actually existed then releasing it in the wild would just be a murder suicide through the inevitable international spread.
They can crank them out by the thousands, from (not factories) a garage
>>65012500This is the most kino one yet
>>65011197>>65012455>drone plushiesThis is somehow weirder than those anime pillows.
Shahed drone : build 'em in a garagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVXPv3Z-9SA
Why did the pedophile rapist in chief not buy Ukrainian expertise before operation epic furry had begun?
>>65014603If I were Zilinsky I would help for free on the condition JD Vance has to publicly televise him thanking Ukraine for the help
>>65014613
>>65014603?How does mr Trump personally change 60 years of institutional inertia in the US military?
>>65008017You're only seeing the last few seconds. For all we know this could had taken several magazines and be one successful intercept out of hundreds of intercepts.
Given the ever increasing range of these they are going to end up being able to hit targets anywhere in a hostile nation from anywhere in the launching nation. I can imagine tunnels with monorail launchers fed by conveyor belts that just empty magazines of hundreds of them like a gigantic machine gun in a few hours.
>>65014742Don't bother with the TDS afflicted
>>65014742It's his fault for starting a war because Netanyahu tongue fucked his earStart stupid war without preparation (only 2 carriers, no allies except the Greatest) and then say oh not my fault I was poorly advised
>>65015109It's the militaries responsibility to be ready if they say they are readyOr to stop buying tomahawks for 3 million apiece when its literally less capable than a shahedThen whine about munitions shortages
>>65015132The military has a great deal of responsibility but the purge of the naysayers was completed by whom?
>Get told over and over drones are a meme, tanks are fine, blah blah blah it's just not the high tech and high skilled armies like the US/Israel/Western powers that are being trounced by drones>Anno domini 2026 and it's stopping an armored push in Lebanon and having us being scared shitless enough to not force the straits.We're more afraid of the Iranians vis-a-vis our navy than we were the Iraqis in 1990/91. Ground invasion begun on march 16th, they still are busy fighting there. They took the sinai in 6 days against a near-peer enemy but a bunch of hill monkeys missing fingers who flinch at the beep of a smoke detector are able to stymy them because it turns out drones aren't a meme.Maybe we just need to start being nicer to the Ukrainians and actually listen to (and buy) their shit instead.>>65014613Vance doesn't get to wear a suit when he says thank you, either.>>65014821Yeah
>>65015154WSJ says the kikes are pissed, keep complaining that the Americans are not dropping enough ordinance. that their sortie rate is too low. they are totally unimpressed with them I don't know what they expected from only a few hundred aircraft but lol
>>65015132While I am leery of journalists bullshit, I was reading an atlantic article about them taking the piss of some Rheinmetall CEO showing them off tanks and when prompted about Ukrainian drones showing the same kind of aristocratic arrogance of cavalrymen disdaining the tank or machine gun back in WW1.>“This is how to play with Legos,” [About Ukarine's use of drones]>“What is the innovation of Ukraine?” Papperger asked. “They don’t have some technological breakthrough. They make innovations with their small drones, and they say, ‘Wow!’ And that’s great. Whatever. But this is not the technology of Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, or Rheinmetall.”>“It’s Ukrainian housewives,” Papperger said of their factories. “They have 3-D printers in the kitchen, and they produce parts for drones,” he said. “This is not innovation.”Well last I checked housefrau's legos are wrecking shit left and right and threatening the most powerful military in human history while your earlier primadonna range queens are smoldering in the steppe with nothing to show for it. How's that kipling thing go? 'two thousand pounds of education drops to a ten rupee jezail'.Seems we'll need a WW1 level of trauma to actually learn our fucking lessons.
>>65015180I did a faux pas with my grammar there because I didn't mean the vatnik vodka soaked apes are the most powerful military. Rather it's that our military, which is the most powerful in human history, is suddenly trembling in its boots because it turns out unlike shilling on /k/ we don't have economical means to deal with incessant waves of drones. Even though DARPA was working on that shit back in the 2010s. So it all reminds me a lot of how we knew IEDs/mines were a big issue since the 60s, the South Africans knew how to deal with them since the 1970s, and it still took us ~35-40 fucking years to regularly kit out the US military with anti-IED vehicles instead of aluminum humvees with ghetto rig protection. And that was only because of enough domestic pressure.With the Rheinmetall CEO it's clear that if your entire business model and pride and existence is built up around boutique gucci-gang options the idea of a housefrau and scrawny nerd with legoes being able to humble your innovations is such a fucking challenge to your worldview and existence you'll refuse it even when it's staring you in the face.>>65015173>Drag us into the war then complain we aren't doing enoughDid Italy do that to the Germans? Maybe the issue is never ally with a country that starts with I.
>>65015173Sounds like kvetching. Neither Israel or the U.S. has a backstock of ordnance to last more than a few months at these rates of sortie utilization (not to mention air defense or artillery missiles/rockets)Why was it called the 12-Day War last year again?Everyone (U.S. and Israel) keeps swaggering this 'we can bomb you for YEEEEEEArs' aura, complete kayfabe
>>65015988it has nothing to do with lack or ordnance: the u.s. has basically unlimited mark 80 bombs and corresponding jdams.it's about sortie rate. so lack of nearby carriers and gulf states not being able to offer secure air bases.
>>65016041single carrier near iran.many air assets in eucom, not centcom.
>>65015132>when its literally less capable than a shahedDo you honestly believe this?
>>65016122Major brics cope
>>65016122what should the idf target?
>>65007353Fpbp
>>65015988https://www.csis.org/analysis/assessing-air-campaign-after-three-weeks-iran-war-numbers>The intensity of the U.S. bombing campaign picked up between Days 7 and 10 as the coalition took advantage of its air dominance over large parts of Iran. Operational success in diminishing Iran’s air defense meant U.S. planes could fly with few limitations and use less expensive, more plentiful munitions like Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM), which costs less than $100,000 per shot.>After Day 10, the pace settled down to 300–500 targets per day as the campaign needed to maintain a sustainable tempo. Aircraft required maintenance, and crews needed rest. Further, the rate of adding targets likely declined as the original list was exhausted. Developing new targets takes time as they need to be identified, validated to ensure the identification was correct, and developed into an attack package.
>>65016137US military would have no problem shooting down fast-flying cruise missiles since surveillance radars would detect them from afar.meanwhile shahed 136 flies too slow to be registered and only close-range target radars can see them.
>>65016041>>65016159>lack or[sic] ordnance>muh jdamsNobody gives a fuck about JDAMS or iron bombs.Guided munitions (all types : a-to-ground, surface-to-air) are what matters. JDAMS aren't going to bring surrender of the IRGC, they're the same as Shaheds keep launching-shooting-dropping them for years on end.Iran are the ones who have settled into an attrition defensive posture. Knuckle down and expend the assailant's ordnance. That's it that's all
>>65016182>Guided munitions (all types : a-to-ground, surface-to-air) are what matters.You mean like JDAM?
>>65016182>Nobody gives a fuck about JDAMS or iron bombs.this is one of the worst takes in this thread
>>65016159>flies your 100k$ an hour bomber from the UK ah but good thing we are saving money with JDAM's(also horrendously overpriced for a 500 lb dumbbomb)
>>65016122checked, nobody knows what this war is even about.Israel, and the United States, are displaying strategic and tactical 'goals' that diverge more starkly by the day.And this is just with the paltry amount of information that everyone worldwide has to work and surmise with.Nobody knows what's going on with this war. No BDAs or equipment/runway assessments of the United States Persian Gulf bases, from NSA Bahrain to Al Udeid. No reliable reports of losses/casualties/damage inside of Iran or Israel, even the Gulf monarchies. Sketchy reports of damage to and attacks on USN naval vessels. Spurious claims of "we're talking to/in negotiation with __________________."Nobody knows what the fuck is going on, for an entire month now.
>>65016191you are forgetting that a bomber can carry way more ordinance than a fighter. it's actually cheaper to use bombers from afar.
>>65016187>muh takeGet killed, brainlet.>>65016186>muh jdamRe-read carefully the post (You) replied to, brainlet. Read it twenty times. Then, read it again.None of (You) fucking faggots have even a single shred of information or 'data point' from which to even concoct a theory about what is occurring in the Persian Gulf rn.
>>65016207>Get killed, brainlet.I decline being the next Ayatollah, thank you very much
>>65016191>we are saving moneyThat's the freshest cope.Look at the Penta-cubicle and Haifa-bomb-shelter dwellers *flooding in to* this thread right now:>'b-but muh jdam'
>>65016172What a load of crap
>>65016198For hitting fixed targets in permissive air space, you could load 500 lb bombs onto a 10k$ paramotor drone
>>65007347>*Obsoletes your insanely expensive boomer cold war machines*I have a radio controlled airplane, and years of RC aerial combat.Challenge acecepted!
>>65014613He would do it in the most smugly Ohio polite way and then go about his day because Ohioans aren't a face culture, and slavs are.
>>65016216a bomber can loiter for hours. a drone cannot.a ljdam can hit moving targets just fine.
>>65014603>pedophile rapist in chiefBiden isn't president anymore, Chang. Sorry but your allies are having their oil stolen and you can't do shit about it.
6 more KC-135s damaged on the ground
>>65013165Life is not a video game, son. Even if all you need are basic machining tools, you need parts and supplies, and to get those in bulk for mass production, you need supply chains, and for supply chains you need roads, trucks, trains, boats, planes, all obviously bringing the shit to where you're building them. It doesn't matter if on paper the shahed is cheap, and from what I remember you /pol/ thirdies tend to subtract multiple zeroes from its price point, what matters is that anywhere mass churning them out will have signs that are obvious enough for the US to bomb them if you want to produce them fast. Slow, unreactive flying bombs are not some meta hack, they are a cope tool. It's why they make a big, bright, visible fireball for thirdies to cheer at and then leave a tiny hole in the street and do nothing else.
>>65012473The bioweapon is activated by the proximity of goat anus. Checkmate.
>>65014603https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-drone-warfare-russia-ukraine-b7369cf6>Senior U.S. and North Atlantic Treaty Organization commanders long discounted the relevance of the drone revolution in Ukraine, arguing that the Western militaries would prosecute a different kind of war because of their ability to suppress the enemy with overwhelming air power and precision strikes.>“There is still this wall of arrogance, including at the top of NATO, because we have much more advanced systems,” said Fabrice Pothier, chief executive of Rasmussen Global, a geopolitical advisory firm, and NATO’s former director of policy planning. “But in fact what you want to do is to be much more Ukrainian. What is happening with Ukraine, and with how Iran is dealing with the air campaign against them, is a wake-up call.”
>>65016216A B-52 can carry 70k lbs of bombs.
>>65016224Drones absolutely can loiter? Munitions need to be appropriate for their target
>>65016238>hurp durrrrP textwall bomb-shelter-poster from Penta-cubiclewatch the video here : >>65014557
>>65016237How many djinns were there? >>65016207Is this the chink who was crying about Hillary losing in the other thread and pretending to be American until you started screaming about how Iran would destroy us all? You must have had a bad bat, sonny.
* Iranian UAV pilot flying their AC over the U.S.*"Sir almost at the enemy airbase! We shall achieve victory with this-...Wha">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC4nmNCW1XQ&t=9sA 1/3 scale MkXI spitfire suddenly assrapes their drone with quad .22LR wing guns before pulling off and performing a snazzy roll.Below-"Oh I say Reginald that was almost as well done as that sneaky He110 you shot down over dover *HISSSSSSS* *AHHHHH* and those new pneumatic gun chargers are working just peachy. That woggie drone never knew what hit it. . Meanwhile , nearby . "Oh Boy Mr Olds, that ducted fan F4 sure is slapping the dogshit out of those iranian drones! Where did you ever learn to fly a Phantom like that!?"
>>65016237May we see the verification?this is what I'm talking about: "kaboshed six -135s"Ok where's the BDA reportI'm not doubting it occurred. Claims need to be verified however
>>65016182This is like saying that getting mating pressed is a fighting stance. Yeah sure it really benefits Iran to be bombed to shit. They love it, their babies will be born bombproof thanks to Lamarckian evolution. You cannot spin getting slaughtered as "making the enemy expend ammunition" when it has completely annihilated your ability to stand back up and fight back afterwards, in any reasonable timetable for Iran to recover, the US would have more munitions, and the bombing would resume.
>>65016240A hilarious combination of the Suez Crises and post-Civil War European armies. What a sight to see.
>>65016247>hurr durr muh chinnnnkWhy is every single post on this board : "muh vatnik muh chink muh turEEEEEEEEE muh shittttttskinNNNNN brownoiIIIIIId"Can't (You) cubicle faggots type Normally?Do you think somehow this makes (You) look any more credible or worth engaging with? (You)'re illiterate 25-IQ Brainlets.>HillaryThat was (You)r MIC choice so were HarrisBiden, glownigger ever since 2015>Iranidgaf about Iran. (You) can hit the turfbox there since it's so important to (You)
>>65016253I can't even tell what kind of asshurt thirdie internet accent this is. It uses too much punctuation to be a slav, and it doesn't quite have the same jolly retardation as a jeet, more of an angry retardation. It's baffling.
>>65016207I read it, and I have no idea what you're trying to say. You say that JDAMs don't matter, but that PGMs (like JDAM) are all that matters.
>>65016250>we have all of the advantages >we're getting bombed with impunity, somehow even more diplomatically isolated, AND our leaders keep dying >take that, jews!
>>65016256>Iran to recoverAre they "recovering" from something rn?What do (You) have access to/know that we don't>fighting stanceMay we see it (the U.S.'s and Israel's)?>getting slaughteredWho?howProvide the documented evidence. Now, ittBe detailed and specific in (You)r replyAll the posts on /k/ for the past month are like this:>'gettin' slaughtered'>'bombed to shit'>'annihilated'>'muh bombing'/k/ is like a 24-7 WWE broadcast
>>65016244Why would I watch a Daily Mail clickbait video? I'm not giving them views. Refute the actual point or consneed.
>>65016266>illiterate 15-IQ indecipherable herp derpchecked,Do (You) have the verification of six (6) KC-135 Stratotankers being destroyed on the ground at some unidentified Arabian Gulf base?
>>65016247The carrier thread? He talks exactly the same way. >>65016262Because you are brown and you type like a retard and you think jdams don't work on shiatards. We are making fun of you, son.
>>65016276>actual pointkek, What?What in the Fuck are (You) posting about?Shaheds will continue to be manufactured from inside of Iranian garages for the next 40 years.>muh clickbait LALALALALALALALA I can't hear uWatch the video, even 5-IQ sub-dumbfucks like (You) can learn. Perhaps not though
>>65016265>>65016272The entire Iranian government is gone or made of cardboard. What world are you living in? They are being bombed to bits, with the things they would need to keep a supply chain to build munitions and drones being specifically targeted. They can't even stop vessels from turning their transponders off and going through the Strait. Iran isn't even fighting back, as far as I can tell.
>>65016278>muh carrier thread, 'i-i know ur posting style'The dumbest """"topic"""" ever posted to /k/?How many more CSGs deployed to Gulf of Oman will cause the IRGC to canoe-paddle out and surrender?Let us know Faggotbrain>'u-ur brown'Whiter than (You) by fucking far, in skin color and genes>'son'Get killed Brainlet remove (You)rself from the line of homo sapiens.kek, (You) think that brospeak engenders some sort of esprit de corps, intimidation factor or gang cred? (You) Faggots are such a pathetic joke(You)r cocks are never coming back after slicing them off <---REMINDER
>>65016279>Shaheds will continue to be manufactured from inside of Iranian garages for the next 40 years.Bud, the japanese tried that. All they got was canned sunshine and decades of marines.
>>65016277No because obviously they weren't and you thirdies are weeping into the creampied anuses of your own goats. >>65016279What are you going to make them from and how are you going to transport the materials there? If you're making them en masse, that requires a steady stream of materials, that by the very nature of suicide drones, are not reusable. Where are they coming from and how do you stop a real ('murican) drone from spotting your garage and just blowing it up? How do you intend to hide them for 40 years? We're 20 years past the time when insurgents were safe if they just ducked into a cave or a garage.
>>65016287wronghttps://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/3/10/the-fourth-successor-how-iran-planned-to-fight-a-long-war-with-the-us-and-israel>“Mosaic defence” is an Iranian military concept most closely associated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), particularly under former commander Mohammad Ali Jafari, who led the force from 2007 to 2019.>The idea is to organise the state’s defensive structure into multiple regional and semi-independent layers instead of concentrating power in a single command chain that could be paralysed by a decapitation strike.>Under this model, the IRGC, the Basij, regular army units, missile forces, naval assets and local command structures form parts of a distributed system. If one part is hit, others keep functioning. If senior leaders are killed, the chain does not collapse. If communications are severed, local units still retain the authority and capacity to act.>The doctrine has two central aims: to make Iran’s command system difficult to dismantle by force, and to make the battlefield itself harder to resolve quickly by turning Iran into a layered arena of regular defence, irregular warfare, local mobilisation and long-term attrition.>That is why Iranian military thinking does not treat war primarily as a contest of firepower. It treats it as a test of endurance.that's why iran can still act unison and escalate when needed.
>>65016287>'bombed to bits'>entire Iranian goverment gone>Iran not even fighting backMay we see the proof?>what world are you living inAsk (You)r self that questionSix Stratotankers were (reportedly) just destroyed on the ground at a U.S. base in Arabian GulfNobody has correct information status on what's occurring there Least Of All (You) and your ongoing 'muh mayhem' WWE rahrah claims
>>65016288Why do we need them to surrender? We can just kill them, it seems to be working well so far. And why are you so triggered by aircraft carriers, did a sailor mistake your sister for a boy or something?
>>65016296>they weren'tCan (You) verify that Mr. Fentcom?Keep coping.
>>65016301The U.S. administration today Fri 3/27/2026 said the war is 'almost over' and that an 'agreement is near'.True, or not?
>>65016283Oh lawd you actually think the AI videos are real. Not surprising given that your entire premise seems to be that if you ignore your government and command structure being dead it doesn't matter because...shia have a hivemind or something? >It is 10000% to Iran's benefit to keep this war going on for as long as possible.Do shias not need to eat? Do shias not have an economy? I keep hearing that this is a big country with infrastructure but you're implying they can just go be subsistence farmers. >Trump is TALKING on SOCIAL MEDIA!Yes he does that a lot when he finds a convenient club to beat Europe with, considering the rest of the world suffers from the Strait being "closed" while the oil-rich USA is just fine, and gas prices were higher under Biden.
>>65016283>It is 10000% to Iran's benefit to keep this war going on for as long as possible.Please do it. Oh god, oh please, please, please, please keep this up. I cannot wait until you sorry fucks have dug yourselves even deeper than Saddam.
>>65016324Go ahead and attack Israel and the Gulf States' water infrastructure. Please do it. I'm begging you.
>>65016296>How do you intend to hide them for 40 years? https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-can-only-confirm-about-third-irans-missile-arsenal-destroyed-sources-say-2026-03-27/>One senior U.S. official voiced skepticism about the United States' ability to accurately assess Iran's missile capabilities, in part because it was unclear how many were underground and accessible in some way. "I don't know if we'll ever have an accurate number," the official said.>Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth acknowledged the challenge posed by Iran's tunneling in remarks on March 19, saying: "Iran is a vast country. And just like Hamas and their tunnels (in Gaza), they've poured any aid, any economic development, humanitarian aid, into tunnels and rockets."
>>65016294>>65016297>>65016299I applaud your use of multiple devices in your samefagging but your particularly autistic typing style outs you. However in all of your cope you neglected to answer how you intend to have a functioning state with your military and government deleted. Especially the islamist rag al jazeera link which acts as if the idea of individual units being able to function without direct orders from the top is novel, when it's an idea the Iranians adapted, badly, from the West. You keep trying to wave away the fact that Iran is rubble right now, but rubble it remains.>>65016308Considering that Iran is down to copeheds and AI videos, the former sounds accurate. As to the latter point, it seems self-evidently true, we are making an agreement on who will be our America-friendly leader for Iran's new America-friendly government. Why would we be negotiating with anyone from the old government when most of them are dead and the ones that aren't are ones we want regime changed out anyway? You're looking at this like a country is a faction in a video game rather than a collection of people, Trump could be talking to some random surviving protester leader and negotiating with him and his movement to give them CIA protection and make them the new government, openly, and we would still see the old government go "what peace talks???" and deny it, because they are not the ones being negotiated with. It legitimately pains me that I have to explain this to you when a child could understand it without needing to type this much text to spell it out for you.>>65016304You're asking someone to prove a negative?
>>65016299It was at prince sultan AB again. Looks like at least 1 is burning
>>65016338Do it.
FFS if the iranians hit the base, just show fucking pics, you fucking faggots, And not ones that are obviously AI/.
>>65016340>textwallsClueless illiterate incoherent 25-IQ desperate cope.
>>65016345>again(12 days ago) How many were verified destroyed in the prior attack?
>>65016353https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/satellite-images-three-us-kc135-tankers-destroyed-saudi-base-iran-us-air-war/
>>65016324I'm American, it literally is not my problem. It will swiftly become Iran's problem though if they force the entire region into a life or death struggle, because then the issue goes from regime change to Iran not being allowed to exist as a country anymore. And possibly genocide if some of our regional allies really, really get angry. >>65016332>senior US officialFrom the other party. Your brownness shows even more >Pete acknowledging Iran is big and has tunnelsYour brownness continues to show, first world countries don't just try to meme away the strategic situation. They acknowledge it and then act accordingly, which is why Israel and the US keep raping you, because after we acknowledge it we do things like spending trillions on satellites that can pinpoint you from orbit taking a shit behind a bush, spot your tunnel mouth, and shoot something nasty down after you.
>>65016347>>65016354I accept your concession, Fling Poo Long
>>65016365>that link we are reaching peak brown
>>65007356rude
>>65016373>spot your tunnel mouth, and shoot something nasty down after you.you can only collapse the entrance from air, not the rest. bulldozers can re-open it. so centcom is now busy killing bulldozers.https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2037487683618959540
>>65016365Dear lord. I am so glad I had my eyes checked recently because I can now say that image is unabashedly bullshit.
>>65016437>you can onlyLockheed Martin says lol, lmao
>>65016437>burgers are having fun blowing up things like chads>iranians are hiding underground crying iran is winning so hard
>>65016444your vaporware doesn't exist. this is literally what centcom is currently doing.
>>65016247>Is this the chink who was crying about Hillary losing in the other thread and pretending to be AmericanHe'd have to be pretending to be American to cry about Hillary losing.Thirdies were terrified of her winning because she was the neocon who would have attacked Iran years ago.See >>65016153That 90s arc of Bush/Clinton knocking over Russian/Chinese allies would have continued unchecked if she had won.
>>65016347>bait chair is an eyesoreIs this an anime reference I don't know?
>>65016925Clinton (and Israel) sold top secrets to China during the 1990s, they're traitors.>Bush/ClintonGeorge Herbert Walker Bush was the actual president of the United States 1981—1992, and engineered Iran-Contra via BCCI with Bill Clinton whose Mena, Arkansas airport made the arms / cocaine shipments while he was governor. Nobody in the U.S. outside of Arkansas knew who he or Hillary were until 1992 when he became the approved White House successor to 'thousand points of light' GHWB.Ring of globalist treason and selling top electronic and space/satellite secrets to the CCPChinagatehttps://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/how-bill-clinton-and-american-financiershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversyRiady family
>>65012500Saved
>>65014742You see, in a world where US government isn't bought by Russia or made of deescalating faggots US would have long time sold Ukraine 50 (I.e less than 10% of US have already fired in a couple weeks vs Iran) Tomahawks and it would have completely solved Russian Shahed issue resulting in no drone support for Iran and most likely complete collapse of Russian offensive capabilities with Putin screaming on TV about muh nooks until getting stroke and getting removed by FSB fellas.
>>65017030>Russian Shahed? Iran makes its own.wtf are you talking about
>>65016265>Except this isn't happening? FENTCOM is posting epic Wii sports maymays of them blowing up empty box trucks and museum pieces while Iran still retains absolute control over Hormuz and is bombing Israel easily at a consistent basis.>Trump isn't even talking about regime change or nuclear program anymore and now the only goal of the war is to try unfuck the mess he got into by begging Iran to open the strait.
>>65017038Is the Strait of Hormuz open rn?Did mcFentcom do that
>>65012210You can literally go to Ukraine and do that, and even get paid money
>>65014603Because>I hang out with losers because it makes me feel better. I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories. I like people that like to listen to my success. Hence why he likes czar monke so much and doesn't like the Ze man
>>65017032You haven't been following the news. Iran has been receiving and using both parts for drones from russia (e.g. the improved navigation antennae) and fully built drones from russia as well. To the point that some of the attacks on UAE had drones with literal russian "Geran-2" markings. Iran is bombed, so it gets stuff from russia to supplant its disrupted industry.
>>65014742Ukies have specifically approached the US to offer the drone and anti-drone shit that they have months before the attack on Iran happened. The administration told them to pound sand.
>>65015154>Maybe we just need to start being nicer to the Ukrainians and actually listen to (and buy) their shit instead.hurr-durr what do those hillbilly europoors know
>>65017007>Nobody in the U.S. outside of Arkansas knew who he or Hillary were until 1992 when he became the approved White House successor to 'thousand points of light' GHWBWow, so he was simultaneously a deep state operative perpetuating a US-first neocon geopolitical strategy as well as a Chinese-bought-and-paid-for traitor?That's some political agility for you.>He strongly believed that it was important to give back to the community and country in which one lived. He recognized that serving others enriched the giver’s soul. To us, his was the brightest of a thousand points of light.That expression really broke your mind huh.Mockery of it in the last decade has principally come from Trump but not in 2026, back in 2018.So you're a Trumptard from way back.Are you Steve Bannon? What you been up to since you got released in 2024?
>>65017042>You can literally go to Ukraine and do that, and even get paid moneyIf you want to join the civilian air defence as a paid volunteer, you need to have military experience that includes stuff like door gunner, turret gunner or MANPADS use.The other way is to join the TDF as a volunteer if you have any military experience in general and air defence positions are open with them.
>>65017052>Iran has been receiving and using both parts for drones from russia (e.g. the improved navigation antennae) and fully built drones from russia as wellWe can thank the IDF for putting a stop to that.
>>65017052>to supplant its disrupted industryWrong (I saw those reports and), Iran makes all of its own drones.the "russia helped" is cope propaganda, and the war has only even occurred for the past month so it wouldn't matterIran makes all of its own Shaheds. >'literal'May we see them (UAE attack drones w/ Russia markings), plebbitard?>>65017063>shilling for Billary pedophiles as patriotsIt's not my problem that (You) are too much of a brainlet to comprehend how the world operates, *Marc Rich*China is today because of what Israel and Clintons provided them with in 80s and 90sGHWB = Billary = Obama/Biden = Cheney/Dubya = BCCI = globalist
>>65017069>GHWB = Billary = Obama/Biden = Cheney/Dubya = BCCI = globalistHi Steve!How was the prison food?
>>65017074Bannon (and Navarro) went to federal prison for defying the U.S. Congress subpoena on hoax J6They've been out for two years. Free, clear, podcasting, raising (You)r blood pressure hopefully to vapor lock soon.What is the point of (You)r postswhy bring up off-topic bannon ittIs it perhaps because (You) are afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome by any chance?
>>65017069>the "russia helped" is cope propagandaThere were literally photos showing both RU made drones and RU specific parts from iranian drones.
>The US is opposed to Ukraine supplying its weapons to the Persian Gulf states, says a member of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security.>"They want to obtain these technologies from Ukraine and then export them themselves," Rakhmanin said.check out these faggots
>>65017081>Bannon (and Navarro) went to federal prison for defying the U.S. Congress subpoena on hoax J6So you ARE Bannon!>>65017069>May we see them (UAE attack drones w/ Russia markings), plebbitard?Since you've already seen them and dismissed them without cause, we know that literally nothing could ever satisfy your proofstering.Calling an extremely well documented attempted coup a hoax is just the icing on your cake of lies.
>>65017089That's not a picture of a drone impacted the UAE March 2026.Rest of what (You) post itt is gigaSchizo illiterate nonsense.>>65017085>'literally'(You) are a 12-year-old posting from parents' basement.>muh russia russia russia, poooOOOOOOOOOOOOtinfucking kekwhat year is it
>>65017069>May we see them (UAE attack drones w/ Russia markings)Literally picrel
>>65017098>'literally', muh ffffffFOtoFake AI made up copebullshit
>>65017106I accept that you consneed
>>65017097>That's not a picture>>65017106>Fake AI made up copebullshit
>>65017107>i-i'm copingStrait of Hormuz is open, correct?Wide open and IRGC about to capitulate to powerful overwhelming Fentcom air superiority that was just decimated at Saudi Arabia Prince Sultan AB, correct?
>>65017109>muh russia russia russia poooootin vatnikSee post immediately below (You)rs copetard
>>65017114So the current glavset medotika is that every US president except Trump is both a Chinese asset and a deep state operative and only Trump has the independence and intelligence to side with Russia against China and the West.Got it.
>>65017130Globalism. Look it up sometime, apparatchikWhat a sad pathetic and above all Irrelevant 'life' (You) lead
>>65017134>GlobalismI like Greek soda, US burgers, French cheese and Georgian wine.I like being able to travel to whatever country I want and see its sites.I like knowing I won't be robbed or locked up for having the wrong memes and apps on my phone.Globalism sounds awesome.You were talking about the strait like oil is important to you, how are your ports these days?Still on fire?
>>65014756Their intercept rate is actually pretty damn high. Like >90% kill rate if they can actually manage to spot the thing in time and get one of these crews (in prop planes or helicopters) up alongside it. Though they are usually using machine guns or even miniguns.
Shasneed is just a poor man's cruise missile. It's a marginally effective terror weapon
>>65017143(You)'re stupid. Low IQ
>>65017149Ukraine has developed a counter-interceptor drone(see the YouTube video upthread)
>>65017149>Like >90% kill rate if they can actually manage to spot the thing in timeIn that big 1000 drones/24 hours strike on Wednesday, I think the interception rate was actually about 98.5%.There were only 15 direct hits by drones across all of Ukraine.
>>65017157You're really bringing your A game huh
>>65017155It's not a true PGM (precision guided munition) but does have a nominally effective guidance systemEnough to cause plenty of damage, even remove billion-dollar AD radars
>>65017166checked,Why do (You) keep posting?I'm bored. That' why I'm posting(You)'re boring, and stupid.
>>65017160>Ukraine has developed a counter-interceptor drone>(see the YouTube video upthread)We can do better than the last 15 seconds of a youtube video that you didn't even link.Please contribute to the board more thoughtfully in the future and maybe save this for more apt responses to ziggers next time.
>>65017174>Why do (You) keep posting?Because calling out ziggers is always the right thing to do.Why do you shit up a weapons board with your metodika?To avoid being sent to a meat unit I suppose.
>>65017206>muh ziggerHoly brainlet.>>65017205(You) = gigaFaggot. Post # 65014557Board etiquette takes precedence. Actual anons do *not* repetitively 'link' their own posts on a thread>metodikaEnglish, Do (You) Speak It?>meat unit(You)r problem subhuman, far far from mine. Filth like (You) needs flamethrowered off of 4chan
>>650172224chan is a western site, cope zigger
>>65017266checked,Start by living in the west as I do, subhumanand speak English only when talking to me, filth
>65017274I think the bot broke
>>65008292Fuck off retard>firing from an unstable platformPlenty stable>at a moving targetNo relative movement>at distanceOf maybe 200m max>with wind shear of 100+ mphAnd?>and doing it in 7 shotsAnd?Literally all you need to do is put the dot on the target and take a shot.
>>65017396I eagerly await the video of your attempt.
>>65017055You have no clue what specific discussions happened, I thought Ukies were going to give shit away for freeAnd noone needs their "experience" when its all filmed on video
>>65017543>And noone needs their "experience" when its all filmed on videoget a load of this retard
>>65017558He's right though. The idea that the Ukrainians have some unique insight into shooting targets out the sky is absurd.
>>65017579Retards like you then wonder why you can't find jobs
>>65017587>mad lmao.
>>65017366checked
Why is half this thread some retard who's mad about Trump arguing with himself? Trump is based, he kills many goat fuckers.
>>65007395This has to be bait, there is no fuckling way the quality of shills/tourists has dropped this badly.
>>65019332>/k/ totally hates Trump, the entire board from /mods/ on downNot sure if sarcasm or not.
>>65019450>would be far happier with Harris-Walz at the controlsI'm amused that you think things would somehow be any different.
>>65020201>Crooks had ties to IranThat was corroborated? Weird that it would be forgotten now of all times.
>>65019991>I'm amused that you think things would somehow be any differentit would be different concerning ukraine. harris would have continued bidens steady increase in support for ukraine.
never forget who pioneered the technology...
>>65021346islamic state in sinai attacked israel multiple times (and vice versa), nigger
>>65007903this but shilka, converted to .50BMG, with 200 rounds of linked ammo for each barrel in boxes, and a 20 round pod of APKWS II on each side, and remove all the survivability of the chassis, replace the entire frame with welded aluminum and make it AI controlled
>>65021384https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Sinai_Province
>>65021461https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-795314https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/defense/1704962668-israeli-security-services-foil-jerusalem-bomb-plot-by-isis-supportershttps://www.ynetnews.com/article/s10qdl0grhttps://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2015/07/03/Militants-fire-rocket-from-Sinai-into-Israel-https://www.timesofisrael.com/islamic-state-claims-responsibility-for-sinai-rocket-attack-on-israel/https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r1aij2md2https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/israelis-target-isis-fighters-in-egypt-as-part-of-covert-counterterrorism-pact/2018/02/03/9b853bcc-091b-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/03/world/middleeast/israel-airstrikes-sinai-egypt.html
>>65021283That interview just makes me surer it wasn't Iran. BUT if the bullet had been more accurate, they would have blamed Iran either way I suppose. Can't argue with that specific point.
>>65021505Those aren't responses, or attacks>times of israel NYT jpost 'targets' 'claims responsibility'ok sureISIS has never attacked Israel nor has Israel ever responded to them militarily
>>65007347...
>>65007347People here are having an extremely hard time accepting that planes, tanks and warships have all become memes in the face of drone warfare.
>>65016446i don't get why the administration even wants to invade at this point
>>65022337because we're winning so hard that our economy is about to collapse and we have to keep escalating to avoid embarrassingly expiring as a super power
>>65022337The island we want to invade is a key point for Iran's O&G export. If we control it, we control their oil. >>65022914Price of oil is less than $100 a barrel.
>>65022926Why invade? We can just mine the harbor.
On the one hand I keep reading reports that UAE/Qatar/Saudi have shot down 100/100 drones today, yet whenever Iran announced they're going to hit something they hit it seemingly without problem. What gives?
>>65008062>except it doesn't exist (yet?)What the fucking Gepard? From the fucking cold war?Are you having a stroke?
>>65022931>control >>65022936Bait.
>>65022926There's no tactical value to having boots on Kharg Island, it still won't let ships unfriendly to Iran pass through the strait. We should have bombed the docks on Kharg so either Iran has to cuck out and let Chinese tankers pass through to pick up non-Iranian oil, or China has to get involved in opening the strait.
>>65012202Interceptors are generally too skinny to be decent plushs.An ATACMs, now that would do nicely.
>>65022945>there is no value in having total control over Iranian O&G
>>65022937I think he meant Gepard Obr.2026
>>65022950What does having boots on Kharg Island do that bombing the docks doesn't?>muh controlWhat does control mean to you in this context?
>>65022956Hard to sell oil if you cant sell oil.
>>65022960How is that different from bombing the docks?
>>65022969>what is "control" >why not blow up?
>>65022978What does controlling the docks rather than destroying the docks let you do? Transfer oil to friendly tankers? They'll get droned in the process. And if not, they'll get droned in the strait. And if Iran doesn't think they'll get Kharg back, they'll just drone the refinery and the storage tanks. Or they'll blow it up when the Marines land on the island and hope to take a few with them.
>>65022989Because its a bargaining chip. Which is the same reason they wont blow it up either, unless they want to gut their oil and gas industry for the next decade.
>>65022994>Because its a bargaining chip. Not if they blow it up>Which is the same reason they wont blow it up either, unless they want to gut their oil and gas industry for the next decade.It doesn't sound like they're going to have access to that oil and gas industry for a decade anyway. Besides, you don't think brown people would shoot their own foot just to spite America? Read through this board and you'll see that will happily do so.
>>65023008They wont blow it up because they want it back, especially if we're signaling that we'll give it back in exchange for something. While we control it, we can shut off oil to China which will result in China applying pressure on Iran to accept terms. If you view this conflict through the lense of it being a negotiation with violence, it all starts making sense
>>65022943Not bait. Literally am unsure if +90% of Iranian drones are intercepted, but then what explains the consistency of their stated targets being destroyed. Are the GCC states just making up numbers or do the Iranians do something different when they're serious about a target instead of random harassment?
>>65023023>but then what explains the consistency of their stated targets being destroyed.bait
>>65023020So what if we just blew up the dock? Then they wouldn't be able to sell oil to China and as soon as they agree to play ball we can set up a JLOTS pier.
>>65023042Not a very good bargaining chips is it?
>>65023047Why wouldn't it be? We would have control over the only dock on the island just like if we put boots on the ground, we just wouldn't have to put boots on the ground until after they capitulate.
>>65023029Iranian steel manufacturing hit. Iranians state publicly they're going to hit specific metal production sites in response. Hit them.How does that make sense mathematically if supposedly almost all drones are intercepted? (according to claims by the gulf states). My implication is that the gulf states are making up numbers / not reporting the true damage. Or else Iran is doing something different e.g. using ballistics when it's serious about hitting something.
>>65023020Preventing the shipment of Iranian oil spikes oil prices even higher, hurting US consumers at the pumps and starving all of East Asia into an economic depression - not just China.Countries like the Philippines and Japan recieve practically every drop of oil from the gulf. If this continues much longer they're gonna have to start rationing fuel.The strait must be reopenned for shipping or this fiasco of a war is going to decimate the global economy and the US is going to collapse internally post midterms when a blue wave impeaches the orange retard sparking some spastic civil war.
>>65023053Why would a regime of which your one and only demand is unconditipnal surrender capitulate because you bombed its oil refineries?Americans are sounding more and more like Vatniks strategising the opening stages of the 3 day SMO. >"If we just bomb Odessa port Ukraine makes no money and Zelenskyy capitulates. We will have already won"
>>65023068>impeaches the orange retard sparking some spastic civil war.Didn't happen last time.
>>65022946>Interceptors are generally too skinnyYou w0t m8? Pisuns are pretty girthy
>>65023076You're missing my point. How would have boots on Kharg Island be any more likely to cause Iran to surrender?
>>65023078If Epstein's Fury continues much longer, the dems may end up with a supermajority.It's already a guarrentee they're going to wipe the house and the senate so he'll be a complete lame duck, but a ground invasion and dead Americans on suicide drone killcams will probably end in Trump getting put in a peach. Bro's legacy will be the rusification of the US military, turning it into a laughing stock.
>>65023068>>65023094Do you even believe this?
>>65023083Neither scenario results in an Iranian surrender.Iran surrenders when the US captures Tehran after a fullscale million man amohibious invasion. A trillion in debt, tens of thousands dead, and the complete occupation of Iran are how you get a capitulation. Good luck. >>65023100If I told you 30 days ago the Strait of Hormuz would still be shut with zero plans or preparations from the self proclaimed greatest military on Earth to reopen it, would you have believed me?What's the cope now? How many more days has Iran got to open the strait before Epstein's Furry ramps up harder lol. Shit genuinely sounds like vatnik cope at this point.
>>65021891This.
>>65023109I'd be a bit surprised, but that's about it.I realize now that the Vietnam War was a part of the Islamic Republic's Leninist founding mythos, so you guys have real trouble looking beyond these fantasies. At some point you have to face that this war isn't happening according Iran's plans. The US won't rush the strait, invade, and occupy the whole country. It doesn't need to. A strategy so transparent and so contingent on enemy cooperation was never going to work in the first place anyway.
>>65023083>How would have boots on Kharg Island be any more likely to cause Iran to surrender?The whole reason to put boots on Kharg Island is to get dead US servicemen, which will be used as a reason for actual boots on the ground and storming of Tehran.
>>65023176Oil is under $100/barrel.
>>65007347Spending $3.7 million Patriot PAC-3 interceptor to shoot down a $20K Shahed is awesome for Iran.
>>65009624
>>65023109>Neither scenario results in an Iranian surrender.I didn't say that it would. I said that bombing the docks would do everything that putting boots on Kharg Island would do but without risking American lives, and allow the oil trade to quickly resume once a settlement is negotiated.>>65023200>The whole reason to put boots on Kharg Island is to get dead US servicemen, which will be used as a reason for actual boots on the ground and storming of Tehran.Why not just put boots on the ground in Tehran? It's an invasion with dubious legality either way.
>>65009624>eyebrows raised>red lines crossed>gloves removedits funny seeing all of this coming back around
>>65007395Umm, sweaty? Are you lost?
>>65023259What country do you call home?
>>65009624I don't see how people can fall for bait so easily
>>65023278Israel
>>65007347>*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ**ACK*
>>65025135Kino
>>65009624That's right, the Americans are going easy on the brownoids, if they wanted to they could send in their best and obliterate the hajjsIvan Mcdonaldsov from State of Moormansk
>>65007389God bless the fatherland
>>65023245>Why not just put boots on the ground in Tehran? It's an invasion with dubious legality either way.Because to put boots on the ground you'll need way more than 10K retards and the current allocated budget. There's no appetite in society for it. However if you get ukie-style montages of american sons and daughters fucked up by drones, there will be blood in the water and desire for "revenge" (revenge for a war of aggression US has started, lol), which will get them both money and retards to send to Tehran.
>>65025135And that WEBM right there is why MIC stocks are in the shitter, and Ukraine is signing deals with the GCC.ITS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE LOCKMART BOOMERS. SAVOR IT.
in the future, war will be essentially automated. a process of each side trying to field a smaller, more nimble and most importantly cheaper countermeasure to their enemy's tech. $100m fighter jets will be the battleships of the 21st century and flesh golems will have no place anywhere near the battlefield. swarms of semi automated drones of all shapes, sizes and capabilities will swirl around like hornets looking for anything more expensive than itself to destroy. it's going to resemble trench warfare in ww1, where the aged tactics are grossly mismatched with technology and there's a general sense of "what's the fucking point in any of this?". the solution in ww1 was combined arms and mechanised warfare, which itself was only impactful due to the economic collapse of the axis powers.
>>65028467Ukraine obsessors are absolutely intolerable.
>>65028519he's right tho
>>65016182>>65016191>JDAMs are dumb bombsAnon….
>>65007353fpbp
>>65028467>ukie zoomers doing agile miltech development
>>65028514Warfare and war, used to be (back in the day) about conquering and occupying other nations.That's not what it's about since 1945.It's about slapfighting.The technology—all of it, since 1945—is pretty much irrelevant. Since you can't actually use nuclear weapons because that would either create a massive environmental catastrophe, or a global nuclear exchange (<--in other words doomsday).So if you can't even use nuclear weapons, and nobody wants to actually conquer and occupy another country, what do you do?You degrade and collapse regimes so that they can be used as economic zones. It's not about subjugating the populace or culture/racial conflict: Those are only used as geopolitical tools of degradation, they don't matter in the end. What matters in post-1945 war is how the region-country or nation, can be used for economic exploitation by globalist transnational corporations. That's it.So that is what happens in post-1945 'wars'. Regimes slapfighting each other to death. For each nation to be used as an economic exploitation zone. These wars, since they aren't concerned with conquest or occupation of the nation, go on for decades until the desired regime is replaced or installed.
>>65007395You have to go back LMAO
>>65007395Retard
>>65017143Georgia does have some good wines. The humidity causes fungus problems for the grapes though.
Goes to show, you should never scrap anything, You never know what old as weapon will find a use. I imagine if we had kept a couple hundredal thousand Flak guns in grease somewhere these drones would be a non issue. Shooting down drones with FLAK is far easier than a plane. To think, if the russians had instead spent a few years butchering the tens of thousands of old ass tanks they had into a couple thousand tanks, they could have blitz ukraine.
What's with all the drone talk? Hasn't it been the strategic missiles doing all the damage so far? Sorry, I haven't been following the war closely.
>>65031320The missiles haven't done shit but blow up a few apartment buildings. It turns out that INS is hard and expensive, but satnav is cheap and easy.
>>65030806>The humidity causes fungus problems for the grapes thoughThat's not necessarily a problem.
>>65007347>Obsoletesthey can be shot down with a 50 cal or any AA cannon. what an actual joke. using the occasional patriot on them is fine because the US is very rich and can afford it. but it's mostly the arabs who have been wasting out missiles on flying lawnmower bombs that go 200 mph
>>65023241Someone needs to make a BDU version of Vatnik. Like, the padded jacket is Russian surplus, and there are plenty of examples of homeless veterans and such wearing cheap surplus jackets. Would prove useful in this Century of American Humiliation.
>>65007395Oof.
>>65032043>Someone needs to make a BDU version of VatnikWhat do you think puffer jackets are?picrel is a modernised and westernised version of a vatnik
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>>65031776Yeah the US using a lot of AA cannons?
>>65032043>>65032202They're pretty popular in China too.They still have duck down ones too but modern synthetic fleece ones are dirt cheap and common these days too.
>>65032213don't know what a hypothetical is?the point is Shaheds aren't some kind of unsolvable technical and military mystery of extreme third world genius. apparently they fly at closer to 100 mph than 200, to correct myself. automated machine guns and a number of low cost interceptors is what we're using. if we only used patriots on them we'd be out of patriots by now, which we aren't. the vast majority of those expended have been used on valid targets like cruise missiles and ballistics.
>>65016239There are 2 possibilities:This propaganda is false, and you're such sore losers that you have to resort to calling your enemy goatfuckers.The propaganda is true, and you got BTFOd by literal goatfuckers
>>65032043the eddie bauer skyliner jacket is almost thatneeds more pockets tho>pic unrelated
>>65021556>gets proven wrong>denies reality Wew.
