The hate for the forward assist is nothing but autismo. If you don't like it, just don't use it. It also does have good uses, like making sure the bolt is seated and all the way in battery. While it is probably a bad idea to shove a round that already doesn't want to go in due to dirt/grime, it is better to be able to force the bcg forward so you can disassemble the rifle than to not be able to take the rifle apart at all. Also, you're gay.
>>65008666>they hated Jesus because he told the truth
>>65008666true
"People" that are adamantly against the forward assist don't shoot. Simple as that. https://youtu.be/RxzUIhbDOm4?si=VBCxKTXb2RASaRqU
>>65008666Pretty much. It's only a problem when someone does the stupid thing and hits the FA without figuring out what kind of jam he's got. Like if you've got brass stuck where it doesn't belong then forcing the bolt forwards is just going to mangle brass. Obviously.
>>65008666Thank, Satan. Autistic people cannot ignore a button that can be pushed. Its no wonder they push it as the wrong times too.
>>65008666>if you press the forward assist you rifle will EXPLODE in your hands>if your sight is a EXPS34NNGG-23 instead of a EXPS34NNGG-23NVG you WILL die in a ditch>if your rifle is OD #0055ff green instead of #0055fE "baby shart" you WILL dieit's all so tiring
>>65008866It is very strange to see retards argue about barrel lengths that are within an inch of each other. Especially when it's around 10" and in a 5.56 rifle. Arguing over a 10.5" or 11.3" barrel is like arguing whether a nissan altima or a honda civic can pull a plow better.
>OP # 65008666whatever Beelzebub
>>65008666>be left handed>forward assist constantly pokes you
>>65008822I like the forward assist and I think it has real and serious purpose, but when at home and not shooting, I sometimes also wanna go thumb the forward assist just because button lol.
>>65008666>nothing but autismoDoesn't it dig in your back when slung, if you're a lefty?
>>65009997>a real warrior would have asked what the red button doesNow I want to powder coat my forwad assit button red. And I will, someday. If only to piss someone off.
>>65008666how come better rifles like the FN SCAR don't have that?
>>65010014How about an anodized one?
>>65010019Better is subjective, but the SCAR has a reciprocating charging handle so it doesn't need it, you can just manually assist forward (which some pussies remove with a kit lmao).
>>65010026>but the SCAR has a reciprocating charging handlenot the new ones i was told
>>65008666The more ARs I see in hunting calibers the more I like the Forward assist I remember my grandpa telling me to close the car door quietly and carefully load our guns when we were stalking an animal.I genuinely don't understand the level of asshurt of someone who hates a device out of asthetic, reliability, or pure tism It reeks of someone who hasn't carried a rifle innnawoods or actually shot at a living target that you have to sneak up on.
>>65010014Holy fuck based Jean Baptiste Emmanual Zorg. I gotta watch that movie again
>>65010021Some ano is better than others, this one is blaze. Powder coat would really blaze!
>>65010054Or just go full gay.
>>65010031>grandpa telling me to close the car door quietly and carefully load our guns when we were stalking an animal.You let the bolt down softly and Then used the FA to make sure it was in battery? I've never used an AR outside of a range so I've never had to learn that trick.>I genuinely don't understand the level of asshurt of someone who hates a device out of asthetic, reliability, or pure tism It reeks of someone who hasn't carried a rifle innnawoods or actually shot at a living target that you have to sneak up on.It's a combination of trolling, Russian Nationalism for the AK-47, and the American tendency to enjoy conflict.
>>65009020But the answer 9 times out of ten is the Altima.If you have a rally Civic, then it’s the civic, but bone stock it’s the Altima
>>65010068well it was typically turkey hunting with pump action mossbergs, but it applied all the same when I had my .300 BLK build, when we drove swamps for deer, he always rode the bolt on his (now mine) winchester model 100 when we were going to drive deer with his brothers when we were trying to sneak being able to safely charge a weapon quietly is really underrated, since Scott walker decided here in Wisconsin we don't have to have guns cased during hunting seasons it opens options up.
Don't care for them. The milspec FA location gets in the way of ambi charging handles. Swept forward like on the VLTOR MUR or BCM MK2 is better, but even then it's not very useful. At the very least, you should be grinding off the top edge of your milspec FA.
>>65009161mutants don't matter
>>65010026I remember reading about people being dumb and putting their digits in the way of the charging handle while firing. It's probably one of the reasons >>65010030 happend
>>65010054I'd want an A1 style teardrop assist, it's more comfortable to use and it looks cooler.Sako are based as fuck for going back to that.>>65010088>being able to safely charge a weapon quietly is really underratedTrufax. That's where H&K's cope name for it comes from "silent bolt closure device," except it's exactly the same as the M16A1's forward assist.
A forward side charger fixes not only the necessary evil of the FA, but the terribly unergonomic and gas-emitting rear top charging handle.The FA exists only to distract from the fact that the AR-15 was never properly designed, and this is true especially after the US Government tampered with Stoner's design.
>>65011447>but the terribly unergonomic Skill issue.>and gas-emitting rear top charging handleLiterally only an issue if suppressed, and even then it's avoidable.Seethe more.
>>65011567>Skill issue.No, it is an objective fact. Human anatomy is not such that their cheekbones are a mere 1 inch higher than the pocket of their shoulder, as the AR-15 is designed.>Literally only an issue if suppressed, and even then it's avoidable.And a front side charger never has the issue even if unsuppressed, and it doesn't interfere with cheek risers on the stock, and it doesn't require head position shifts to operate.The AR-15 lost. It's over. It's time to move on. There is no reason to cuck yourself with inferior government designs. In fact, we shouldn't even be calling a gun with a rear top charging handle, or a forward assist an "AR-15" because it isn't one.
>>65011447>especially after the US Government tampered with Stoner's designI'm going to say it, stoner was an excellent engineer who couldn't design an infantry rifle to save his fucking life. That sleeved barrel that exploded was his idea, as was the retarded not-a-silencer muzzle device that adds a bunch of needless weight to the end of a rifle. The AR10 was bad, it wasn't until the Dutch unfucked it that anyone adopted it. If you need any more proof, look at the FARC. That shit was not ready for retarded infantry antics and why the hell does it have that stupid ratcheting buffer in its BCG?>Oh but it had an opticVery forward thinking, yes. However everyone agrees the AUG and G36 optics are dogshit and those two don't look like you're giving princess bubblegum a gynecological exam with how pink everything is
>>65010005in the MC you only shoot left and do everything else right to be uniform. But OP is low IQ so if hes talking about non military who care you don't have to use the FA
>>65008734>JesusIs that another way to spell Stoner?
>>65009161Left handed shooter here, no it doesn’t stop spreading fake news
>>65010079I wouldn't trust even the newer Jatco CVTs to pull anything.
>>65010358Ok, then you won't have a problem defending the country for me while I just chill at home, right?
>>65010333>top edge of FA is just too damn highHmm... >>65010526
>>65011617>That sleeved barrel that exploded was his idea, as was the retarded not-a-silencer muzzle device that adds a bunch of needless weight to the end of a rifle.Interestingly, ignoring the AR-17, I don't think he realized just how ahead of his time he was thinking about aluminum receivers and carbon wrapped barrels and silencers. He was just in the wrong field and wrong time. If the NFA didn't exist, silencers in hunting may have been huge; they're only finally starting to show up. Hell, for hunting, carbon wrapped barrels worth a fuck with reasonable weight savings and good groups and that are reasonably producable (see: reject rate and cost) are still a hard task for many makers today but companies keep trying over and over. Most rifles still are steel (except AR derivatives, maybe except that one CZ). He had good ideas, he just threw ALL of them at the wall at once. His early furniture even through the 601 were composites with either fiberglass or carbon fiber, woven or chipped. They look fucking amazing too.
>>65012809>$20 teardrop forward assistor>5 minutes with a dremel and black spray paint
AR defenders will defend every aspect of its design purely because Murica.The FA is retarded. No other gun has it, no other gun needs it. No one else is retarded enough to use such a retarded ungodly abomination of a charging handle either, yet they'll still defend it.
>>65011604>>65014534These are pitiful cope posts.
>>65012874He had some really advanced ideas for his time that were let down by material sciences, I'll give him that. However I will die on this hill the flash hider he developed for the AR10 and FARC was dumb, it had all the bulk of a suppressor without any real noise reduction. It may have been a very effective flash hider but genuinely the A2 birdcage is good enough. I also fuck with the fiberglass furniture too, though for me the Czech beaver barf is peak and hard to top
>>65018035>He had some really advanced ideas for his time that were let down by material sciences, I'll give him that.Carbon wrapped barrels are mostly a tension thing. Multiple directions of tension when wrapping and IIRC compression of the tube once hard. There's a reason I don't fuck with those things. What's always in my mind is delamination.>However I will die on this hill the flash hider he developed for the AR10 and FARC was dumb, it had all the bulk of a suppressor without any real noise reduction. It may have been a very effective flash hiderWhat about the XM177 moderator? Frankly if it weren't a fucking NFA item I'd get one (repro) but still.>I also fuck with the fiberglass furniture too, though for me the Czech beaver barf is peak and hard to topTook me far too long to realize this but I'm pretty sure that stuff is just chipped up reddish-brown circuit board fiberglass or maybe fiberglass sheets, the real fine stuff. I have to wonder why Russian, Romanian, and Czech is mostly red. I've seen tannish gold from some countries and Russia experimented with green. I feel it has to be a colorant but what is it and it still made? And were the glass fibers colored? I have a pistol grip where the glass (?) fibers stick out and they almost look like brown fiberglass. I figure the phenolic AG4 (or similar) has to be colored heavily. Not sure how transparent it is to start with, either, which I also want to figure out.t. rying to figure out how to clone similar furniture for various rifles
>>65018035Oh also of course 000001 is pretty sweet.
>>65020060But I found 000013 for the first time and damn is that thing sweet. I think it's carbon fiber; I have no clue why on the true no. 1 (electropenciled with the leather stock cover) he covered it up with that textured rustoleum paint stuff. Sure you can make it look more "finished" and UV protected, I guess. But that rough sand texture on a stock, man!
>>65012311I'm left handed and the forward assist fucked my gf. I hate those things for life, man.
>>65010526I am assisting this post.
>>65008666>like making sure the bolt is seated and all the way in batteryIt doesn't do that it pushes the bolt forward. If something is really stopping it it won't seat you'll push nothing will move and you won't know. TBQH its giving you false confidence - just always use eyeballs.
>>65020060>What about the XM177 moderator? Don't think that was Stoner's idea, but I think the concept has merit for carbines, it's just you could make it a little shorter but instead a little wider, and also make it so you can actually take it apart and clean it.
>>65010064
This should be required viewing.https://youtu.be/MhjU8InWxr0
>>65025613I remember that vid, made lots of good points.Also a reminder that the forward assist can be used to pull out separated cases. Load a spent case and then push it into the torn piece of case stuck in the chamber, push, firmly but not too hard, and then slowly pull the charging handle back, the separated case should be stuck on the neck of the whole casing.You can more or less also do this on most other rifles with reciprocating charging handles and forward assists, like on an M1 Garand, AKM, Vz58, the G36, some models of the FAL, some models of the H&K 7.62mm and 5.56mm roller-delayed rifles, etc.
>>65025693fuddlore
>>65008666T-thanks Satan.
>>65026303You can literally try it yourself, faggot.
>>65026303When a dumbass says this, it's starburst-flare levels of obvious their mom still picks out their clothes
>>65008666The problem with the forward assist isn't the fact that it exists, it's the stupid rear charging handle that makes the FA necessary.
>>65008666The forward assist saved Kyle Rittenhouse's life. The debate is over.
>>65008666Thank you, I completely agreePersonally I am a professional hitman assassin so I have to use the forward when I am charigng the gun and letting the charging handle go forward really really slow because someone could be closeby that could here me (I use silencers too don't ask me how I get them) because it doesn't always go into battery so I have to use the foward assist in that case. Other armchair warriros online don't know things like that so they think it's not useful but they have never had to do what I have to do.
>>65026669Oh, you must be a hunter!
>>65026669>>65026801This is woman tier of passive aggressiveness.
>>65028520Dude, it's a reference. 47 always has these inexplicably effective disguises despite being a bald refrigerator.
>>65008666Well if you ever needed proof that the forward assist was the work of the devil...
>>65008666Leaf here, all of my AR's are slick side, and i wish they all had the sniper button.
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