After this month's events, I think we can all safely say: Build Golden Dome. I personally believe the ABM Treaty set us back decades but that's all behind us now.
>>65010821>after seeing how easily interceptors are depleted and saturated I say let's continue this way based retard
>>65011218>allahu akbar our ballisic missile will blot out the sun!>okay but look how much money they are spending defending themselves xaxaxaxa>b-b-but look how much our chimpout drove the price of eggs up uehuehue(You) are here^^^>AIIIIEE THIS IS AN OUTRAGE SAVE ME UNITED NATIONS
>>65011576idk what's your point but my point was to invest in lasers or something else that's not possible to saturate so easily and is mobile
>>65010821The us already has it since they basically financed arrow 3, but not sure what the goal of such a big program would be for a big nation like the usa, since it would do fucking shit against submarine launched icbms and also it's way cheaper to take out nations that would do such type of attacks or drones in the hemisphere like venezuela or cuba.I mean having the tech is nice but this seems like the type of tech it's only usable if you have a build line producing x ammount and constantly regarding if there are threats or no and they probably will cost a shit ton anyway
>>65012922More to the point, you can't hide an ABM buildup of that scale, and it's effectively a declaration to all other nuclear powers that you want to break MAD and be able to nuke them with impunity. The only rational responses to that are either getting you to back off and stop building it or launching a first strike.
>>65012996There's also the option of the other nuclear powers just doing their own nuclear buildup that can outpace the ABM buildup at a minuscule fraction of the cost, but regardless of what option they all go with, the US isn't getting a totally impenetrable ABM shield so long as any other nation has the slightest agency in the matter.
>>65010821Golden Dome is not economically feasible unless you design it to only stop launches of low single digit missiles (as in less than 5) or you make the assumption that getting your payload to orbit is an order of magnitude cheaper than anything that is even in prototype phase right now. I dont think people comprehend how many interceptors you would need in LEO in order to have enough in position at any given time to intercept full salvoes of ICBMs. Youre talking hundreds of thousands to millions of satellites
>>65013012>we are going to have more tubes than you for less!Why is this always the thirdie cope? Why is this THE only thirdie cope? It makes no sense yet every single shithole country has this idea, which has never manifested and clearly never will. The US will swat your gay shit out of the air and rape your corpse, Manifest Destiny NIGGER.
>>65013036I SMELL A FRIGHTENED LITTLE CHINKY BOY OH STINKY CHINKYWHERE IS YANG WEI RIGHT NOW? HOW'S THEJ-20? HOW ARE YOUR NOOOOKS GONNA HIT US WHEN THEY'RE FULL OF WATER HAHAHAHAHA SHUT UP CHINIGGER
>>65011218>>65013036
>>65013046I'm American you dumbass, regardless of where you live the physics of orbital mechanics apply
>>65010821>enemy built 10 ICBMs, MIRVed with 5 warheads,2 decoys each>need to build 20 missiles go after the first stages at >also need to build 140 missiles to go after the warheads>phew intercepted them all>enemy built 20 ICBMsIt is not sustainable. Unless you had the industrial capacity of china.
>>65013054ni hao new jersey province how is the fried bat?
>>65013057You mean because Chinese missiles wouldn't work in the first place? Lower your face into the dirt, dog, America controls your oil now stinky chinky.
>>65013043The US hasn't been having a great track record of intercepting every missile launched by a third world shithole (Iran) despite expending a considerable portion of its total interceptor stocks. The reason why Iran's strategy isn't working is that it relies upon conventional munitions leaking through the US+friends air defense and causing enough political pain to make a high intensity war against Iran politically untenable.but that doesn't actually stop a US administration from committing political suicide and bombing them into dust anyway as Iran is currently discovering (and this strategy doesn't work against Israel at all because its populace regards Iran as an existential threat so Iran's conventional deterrence does roughly jack shit). However, the US can't play the same game against nuclear munitions, because each leaked missile that would inflict single digit casualties (if not literally zero injured) suddenly kills tens or hundreds of thousands. Coincidentally, this is the exact reason why Israel regards Iran's nuclear program as an existential threat - Israel can trade Iranian ballistic missiles for Israeli civilian infrastructure all day when each Iranian missile struggles to inflict its own cost in economic damage and Israeli intercepters can shoot down the few ballistic missiles that are aimed somewhere important, but an Iranian nuclear program destroys this balance because a few nuclear armed warheads can render Israel more or less defunct as a nation almost regardless of where they land.
>>65013057It does not matter how much industry you have, you need far more interceptors in space than the enemy needs missiles. What needs to be taken into account is that LEO satellites are only in place above a given target for a couple of minutes at a time. Combine this with the fact that an interceptor needs to be large enough with enough fuel to effectively catch an ICBM before it enters mid course and the MIRVs separate and youre going to be limited to either very large satellites with multiple missiles or 1 smaller satellite with 1 missile. For the former China simply has to fire a single MIRV programmed to use much larger quantities of much smaller projectiles directly at the satellite. This necessitates firing at the incoming projectiles and either wasting most of the ammo or having your satellite be destroyed. The 1 missile 1 satellite approach avoids this, but now you need hundreds of them floating within range at all times of your enemy's launch silos. You would have to have something like 30,000 satellites in orbit just to have a few in place to intercept a couple of missiles from North Korea at once. It simply makes no economic sense, especially because you will need go be sending several thousand satellites a month into space to replace the ones falling back to earth due to orbital decay
>>65012566I think he's calling you a retard for thinking a 92% intercept rate is "easily saturated"
>>65013049it's crazy how you retards can't even read. I literally said nothing against the US and was called a terrorist and a chink. absolute schizophrenia
>>65013113>90% is acceptable yeah it is until you fail to meet the critical mass and get saturated as it happened. For it to work you need both deep magazines of missiles and a vast number of launchers. Adding to that the loss of one system impacts the intercept rate which makes you lose more systems ect ect, it's a domino. I'm not brown, I'm not a chink, I'm not saying Iran is winning anything, I'm just saying that the current AD seems very inefficient compared to say lasers. It's crazy how the /pol/ leaking fried any /k/onversation
>>65010821so the events taught you you must be better prepared, instead teaching you not to a pick a corrupted pedophile for a president that will start wars for Israel?you learned nothing.
>>65013085>but that doesn't actually stop a US administration from committing political suicide and bombing them into dust anyway as Iran is currently discovering As the West has discovered post-2022, and Iran is finding out now, it's really difficult to stop a determined retard.
>>65013141This is also why I've never bought arguments that China would never invade Taiwan because of X, Y and Z reasons.X, Y and Z are almost always valid points, but at the end of the day Winnie the Poo's word is law, and reality doesn't matter to him or China until the AShMs start hitting the landing craft at which point there's a war on and nobody is backing out quickly.
>>65013085>The US hasn't been having a great track record of intercepting every missile launched by a third world shithole (Iran) despite expending a considerable portion of its total interceptor stocks.Actual thirdie cope, and seek therapy for your TDS.
>>65013126You posted the same ESL in multiple other threads about how "the magazines are not deep enough", to do the usual thirdie "America will run out of missiles but the multipoolars never will" cope. You're not going to saturate your way through US AA, you've failed every single time you've tried.
>>65014393t.proud single language knoweryou tell' em, Bubba!
more like golem dome
>>65014390Look man, you can get away with a kinda leaky missile defense when you are fighting a country that relies upon conventional warheads that can barely hit a specific postcode with their CEP, but if even a fraction of those Iranian missiles had been nuclear tipped then half of the middle east would be gone by now. Against a more serious adversary like China, you aren't overmatching its ICBM stockpiles when you need to spend more than an order of magnitude more on interceptors than they do on additional ICBMs to maintain that overmatch.
>>65016065>we will NOOKevery time with you thirdies
>>65015083English is the only language that matters.
>>65010821>going another trillion into debt right now>because a more stable country than best korea has shorter range missiles and no nukesSure, why not.
>>65015993>golem>mud creature with no soulUhhhhhhhhhhh that's sounds really third worldy.
>>65016452>debtMeaningless. The US debt to gross worth is only 20%.
>>65016526The debt to GPD ratio is 124.04% putting the US between Bahrain and Senegal.
>>65016533>doesn't know the difference between GDP and GNW Bruh.
>>65016544>The GNW Index is also known as the first Gross National Happiness Index>no GNH Index existed until 2005While I support the idea of prioritizing the wellbeing of the population over line go up this has nothing to do with the hard economic factors I am talking about.
>>65016440t. the esesential 79% literacy rate poster
>>65017701100% literate in the only language that matters.
>>65016554>Actual google translate jeetamazing
