"fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man" - Patton This was true at the time because if you moved an army fast enough, the enemy could not locate you, not report back to command, and not coordinate any resistance to you.None of these things are true anymore therefore the statement is no longer true.pic unrel
I'd say this is more of a cold take, but people who fetishize the 2010s paradigm of high end rifle+nods+bodyarmor are lame and annoying to deal with. No Kevin I don't fucking think the country will collapse to the point that your Geissele you bench shoot with is going to matter when you could have gotten a M&P or something for home defense and call it a day, go back to your Excel spreadsheets you boring fuck.
>>65011662I'd sign on to gun legislation that creates a new license that bypasses state-level gun bans. Civilian FFL or something.>shall-issue>renewed every 3 years >same background check as an NFA item>exempt from "Assault Weapons Bans">eligible to pay the SOT for select fire weaponsAt this point I would take this because the way antigunners are cheating I'd be surprised if the next Democrat president doesn't immediately sign a new, worse, non-sunsetting national AWB into law.>inb4 SHALLFree men don't ask permission - how long are we going to be "Free men" at this rate?
>>65011662I believe carrying a .22 is perfectly fine for self defense.
>>65011730people tell you to carry 9mm or .45acp because they care about you, not because they're jealous of your edc FRT .22 pistol
>>65011711>because the way antigunners are cheatingand FRTs aren't cheating?
>>65011730nope. don't care how many rounds paul fired, .22 and .22 guns are not reliable.
>>65011662>knee/commando mortars are still the metathey're much faster, dirt cheap, can be extremely quiet, and are more space efficient than using suicide drones (but not a replacement), and when paired with recon drones, become extremely accurate
>>65011730>I believe carrying a .22 is perfectly fine for self defense.Sorry anon, I agree with the consensus on this one. It's not the energy, it's the rimfire. The nature of rimfire is just too hard to make equally reliable to centerfire, you're trying to squirt in and then spin-spread the primer into this ultra narrow rim and there's no way to check your work, some level of voids seem to just be inevitable. This isn't a diss against 22lr in the slightest, I love it, but just sorta the nature of the beast. When you're plinking or varmint hunting it doesn't matter to load another or reseat it or mess with it or whatever but for self defense I think you're better off with 32acp.
There is nothing wrong with carrying a full sized, non-compact handgun if you aren't a manlet and can actually conceal it.
>>65011896Is this not just a worse version of a grenade launcher
>>65011911do you not understand what a mortar is used for?
microcompacts are gay, 6+1 is sufficient
>>65011730It isn't that .22 isn't good enough to kill someone (especially with the capacity that .22 semi-autos can give you) its like >>65011908 said. You are gambling with your life if you're trusting the reliability of rimfire ammo. Even the good stuff is less reliable than bottom of the barrel 9mm. Carry what you want, any gun is better than no gun, but I'd get a .380 or something if you just want something compact that is easy to shoot.
>>65011662>post your controversial takesThe most controversial take I think I have I on /k/ is that small arms and human infantry are on the verge of becoming obsolete in peer warfare (in the third world and insurgencies and shit it'll probably continue a while longer). Nobody likes to hear this because it'll make a lot of military stuff even more boring, destroy a lot of culture and careers, mess with the hobby and a lot of how people imagine they could resist government etc, but the trajectory of incentives and tech seems pretty clear unfortunately. Drones and teleoperated shit of various flavors isn't just the far future it's looking more and more like the near future.
>>65011662smart electronic guns have a lot of promise and I'm eager to see more developed
>>65011865Not anymore than the Hughes ammendment.
>>65011662Dreadnought wasn’t actually all that important.Ditto the Battle of Midway.
>>65012026>Ditto the Battle of Midway.that the US could have lost their fleet and island still not lost the war doesn't make it unimportant.
>>65011931The only thing I have against smart guns philosophically is that they would be an excuse for anti-gunners to be niggers. The tech isn’t there yet, but the idea of a gun that can only be used by people you trust is an attractive prospect.Here’s another unpopular opinion: if your first response to any sort of compromise is “REEEEEEEEEEE SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED MUH AUTOBLASTIES” you are a retard and part of the problem. Stop being part of the problem.
>>65011662I like military stuff and shooting gunsbut frankly I think everyone that enlists is a fucking retard, especially the officers.
>>65011908>>65011923Valid points, but if you have a revolver you can just keep pulling the trigger. If course, if you have a revolver then God's own caliber is .38 special.
>>65012043>The only thing I have against smart guns philosophically is that they would be an excuse for anti-gunners to be niggers. The tech isn’t there yet, but the idea of a gun that can only be used by people you trust is an attractive prospect.I think the real core issue there isn't anything gun specific but rather an ever increasing plague on our society in general: lack of anti-feudalism laws, and in turn a general erosion of the basic concept of ownership. There are ever more subscriptions being shoved into everything, ads, and other garbage all enforced by locking people out from the very stuff they buy. I'd vote anyone, from any party, even I hated basically everything else in their platform, who ran a serious campaign to legally force the concept of ownership. That everyone must by law be given access to root key stores, source code, etc, that there cannot be any technical barriers to people fixing and altering their own stuff.An electronic gun that was fully mine would indeed be fucking awesome. I'd love to have something that little hands could not misuse no matter what, that criminals would also find useless, and that had a few other quality of life niceties that you'd get for free (perfectly adjustable good trigger wherever you wanted or made sense, automatic built-in shot counting and so on). But in the present state of law I can see manufacturers enshittifying it real quick, though the gun market is competitive enough, low enough barrier to entry, and the gun community is paranoid enough that maybe there is slightly more cause for optimism.
>>65011911No. Like 5x the useful range and way more frag
>>65012058>Valid points, but if you have a revolver you can just keep pulling the trigger. If course, if you have a revolver then God's own caliber is .38 special.That's fair, but also yeah if you're using a revolver then that somewhat diminishes the appeal of 22lr anyway given the other options that open up. Including other rimfire, like yes 38 is the caliber of the lord, but 22wmr is a neat option too.
>>65011711New legislation-"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED MEANS WHAT IT SAYS.ALL GUN LAWS ARE NULL AND VOID.THOSE ATTEMPTING TO INFRINGE WILL BE BUTTFUCKED BY THE U.S. ARMY. ALL OF THEM. ONE. AT . A . TIME. ".Good enough?
>>65011662A shotgun is hands down the best home defense weapon.
>>65012117>A shotgun is hands down the best home defense weapon.Said someone who'd never owned a M1928 Thompson.
>>65012103Um excuse me. The REAL text of that amendment starts "A well regulated Militia" and it starts that because it's the most important part. You always put important stuff in the front and minor details in the back! And the more regulations the are the more "well regulated" it is! That means the true meaning of the second amendment is that it's unconstitutional to reduce regulations on guns!
>>65011662>post your controversial takesCalling it "special military operation" was a clever and cheeky way to make fun of Ukrainians using "special anti-terrorist operation" or something like this prior to the main invasion. Western European countries were playing along to avoid giving Ukrainians refugee gibs.
>>65012129Why do U haet freedom!?!?I'll go to the range to train when I want!Til then you kids keep off my lawn while I'm launching VW's into Orbit!
>>65011926I agree with you.
Israelis are basically Americas Chechens. They are dependent on us to survive so they do the dirty work we don’t want to take the political heat for.
>>65012158But it's the US who does that dirty work.
>>65011662>>65012103Hot takeGun laws make sense and "shall not be infringed" was really not imagined with modern guns (or modern people for that matter) in mind.Almost everyone understands that private nukes are a disaster waiting to happen, and rightfully banned. But so are private MGs. The current system where semi-autos are legal and everything above is not makes sense. In a context of low general crime and no ubiquitous guns in criminal hands (i.e. most of civilized asia and previously parts of europe) it can make sense to be even more strict, for example forbidding autoloading guns (i.e. only repeaters and revolvers).
>>65012165Israelis started the air strikes in IranX Israelis blew up the school, Israelis are clearing out the Palestinians for us to turn it into Pompano Beach East, Israelis ran the Epstein operation because the glowies aren’t supposed to operate in the U.S. They work for us not the other way around as hard as that is for a lot of people to face.
There should be no regulations regarding weapons at all. EDC thumb nukes for all.
>>65012173But here you are using the first amendment, obviously intended for quill and parchment, addressing me via a modern, digital means. I find you to be a charlatan, and a person of low character, and challenge you to go fuck yourself.
Air forces should be rolled back under army command.Tanks should be dispersed rather than concentrated, and they should be seconded to the infantry at all times.Special forces as a concept is a suicide cult that promises illusionary short cuts to victory.
>>65012192Difference is, free speech through digital means serves the common good and has no dangers greater than that of free speech through pen and paper. Recreational M2s are massively more dangerous than muskets and do not serve the common good.
Whenever some spaz shoots up a school, church, or whatever pro-gun people will clown on the FBI or police for having already known the shooter was an unstable retard who'd all but explicitly said they were going to snap and try and set a high score. This will usually be in the context of the police being useless and letting it happen.And then you propose red flag laws and they'll lose their shit.
Germans fucking suck at war and no one should ever listen to anything a German soldier has to say about warfare past, present, or future.
>>65012221Post flag so I can accurately mock the military misadventures of the pitiful shithole I presume you to hail from.
>>65012173explain to me how you can maintain a "well regulated militia" if you do not have weapons up to date with modern warfare?trick question. you cant.
>>65011662The Maginot Line was ahead of its time, its only fault was that it was built (and 'manned') by the Fr*nch.
>>65012229It's called the national guard and it has up to date weapons.
>>65012233nice try retard.
>>65012213>Difference is, free speech through digital means serves the common good Nope. Your "common Good" and my "Common good" would be murdering eachother.>and has no dangers greater than that of free speech through pen and paper.Kek. Bullshit.> Recreational M2s are massively more dangerous than muskets and do not serve the common good.M2's? Nigger, I am talking about recreational 16" Watervlliet rifles. You and I are not even in the same universe of freedoms.
>>65011662>you need to train irons and point shooting to defend yourself sonny>no boomer you need to train with a dot and to shoot fast What you really need are simunitions/airsoft + a guy trying to take you down and punch you in the face hard
>>65012233well regulated militias include the process of allowing to train citizens. the military cant stop you from going to the gun range and practicing your shot, nor stop you from owning a weapon. the national guard is the government, clearly. so my question was how can you maintain a "well regulated militia" if citizens do not have access to weapons that would put them on par with modern warfare?
>>65012227German detected. Opinion discarded. You’ve been France’s cumrag for 1300 years since Charlemagne and your containment zone kees shrinking.Now fuck off with your 1,000,000 word treatise about DerOrtandemeinGeneralseinenpenisplatzierensollteumsicherzustellendassdiesderrichtigeOrtistumdenPenisstoßbiszumÄußerstenzusteigern and win a war for a change. Or better yet hang the last Prussians still skulking about, and put the Bavarians back in charge. Everyone liked you when you were chill poets, musicians, and philosophers building fairy castles in the mountains and making great food.
>>65012244Or play paintball on a field against someone who knows the angles, and outs you with a paint soaked sponge on a stick.
>>65012263>Doesn't post flagThought so.
>>65011896You do know you can just turn a mortar round into a drone fairly easily, they alreasy made dronified 40mm
>>65011708Shooting used to be fun.
In response to OP pic:>"When we read, another person thinks for us: we merely repeat his mental process. In learning to write, the pupil goes over with his pen what the teacher has outlined in pencil: so in reading; the greater part of the work of thought is already done for us. This is why it relieves us to take up a book after being occupied with our own thoughts. And in reading, the mind is, in fact, only the playground of another’s thoughts. So it comes about that if anyone spends almost the whole day in reading, and by way of relaxation devotes the intervals to some thoughtless pastime, he gradually loses the capacity for thinking; just as the man who always rides, at last forgets how to walk.">Arthur Schopenhauer
>>65012035Nice 5This is my image btw
>>65012213That's obviously false. ISIS wasn't recruiting people with quill and parchment. Corpos don't get people addicted to scrolling a paper pamphlets.The internet obviously amplifies the "danger" of free speech. If you think the 2A has a built in flexibility for technological change, then so does the 1A.
>>65012173>private nukes are a disaster waiting to happen, and rightfully bannedThere is a legal path to a nuclear weapon. Nobody has ever used it.
>>65012309Despite Mr Schopenhauer being an intllectual juggernaut, I believe his statement only holds true for passive of readers who don't reflect as they read. Fortunately, 4chan encourages active reading by the nature of its highly argumentative culture and relatively long form posts
>>65012258Legally this is not relevant. SCOTUS said in Heller the "core" of the second amendment is self defense, not militia service. Since Bruen, the test is whether a law implicates the second amendment (e.g. restricts access to arms for self-defense) and if so, if the law is consistent with the history and tradition of laws regulating civilian access to arms.
>>65012345>SCOTUS said in Heller the "core" of the second amendment is self defense, not militia service.Sounds like bullshit.
Irrespective of constitutions and shit, I can see the value in allowing the populace at large to form an army able to keep the official army in check. Still, this would need to take the form of an organization. Something like a national guard, but with elected officers and widely spread armories. And obviously those would have all the arms necessary, including tanks and artillery and planes and stuff. Controlled by the elected officers or guards.
>>65011875>>65011908>>65011923We need to get rid of the NFA so we can have electric .22lr chainguns for self defense. Rimfire reliability isn't an issue when it will just keep cycling and firing regardless of misfires.
>>65012360Well that's what Scalia said. His logic was that the founders wanted to protect the militia as an institution, and they did so by codifying a right for individuals to keep and bear arms for personal self defense. This was largely in response to the four justices in the minority who would have held that 2A only protected a "collective right" connected to militia service.>>65012377So you're basically suggesting a fourth branch of government that is a band of armed militia to offset federal control of the standing army? Would you want it to be controlled by the states or the people directly?
>>65012394>>65012377The populace should form the only military. Mandatory service for everyone one weekend a month, plus the occasional weeklong exercise. The regular military consists of NCOs that conduct the training sessions, and a smaller officer force that will take command of the militia platoons when activated.This way you have a defensive force hundreds of millions strong, with limited power projection capability and no way to force an unpopular war.
>>65012217There is a difference between "the government can preemptively seize your property and deny you civil rights based on third-party allegations that you must prove are in error" and "law enforcement and social welfare agencies failed to take action against a person they were already investigating for criminal/dangerous behavior despite evidence." They're not comparable.
>>65012309In accordance to Mr. Schopenhauer's opinions, I will be summarily ignoring his body of work.
>>65012420This, either you want the police to follow the law or you want them to round up people without due process or respecting the right to privacy.
>>65011711Might as well add national reciprocal CCW license so shit isn't a minefield to navigate for CC permit holders
>>65012418The methodology you're espousing started showing its cracks in the mid-19th century and more or less collapsed with the advent of industrial warfare.
>>65012173There's a really good controversial take alright. But I generally agree with you. If I had my way I'd make the 2A similar to the 1A in that restrictions are subject to strict scrutiny, and it formally applies specifically to small arms. I think there are a lot of really shitty gun laws that infringe on it while not actually advancing the cause of safety, crafted by ignorant and lazy legislators without due care (same as lots of 1A restrictions that constantly try to get passed). But the edgelords 2A-lolberts are retarded as well and if they actually got their way it'd be a situation of the dog who caught the truck, when mass shooting casualties increased by a factor of 100+ and public opinion swung overwhelmingly hard the other way the result would be far worse then we have right now.
>>65012026>Dreadnought wasn’t actually all that important.I understand the Midway take, but what's your reasoning for this one?
>>65012420>"law enforcement and social welfare agencies failed to take action against a person they were already investigating for criminal/dangerous behavior despite evidence.>criminal/dangerous behaviorYou slip this in as being synonymous, what is "dangerous behavior" and how is it different than your reading of red flag laws?
>>650124481A isn't always strict scrutiny. Typically you get intermediate scrutiny for content neutral restrictions and free speech. And that's really what you're advocating for. The whole problem with these tiers of scrutiny is that there's so much leeway for judicial discretion. A right leaning justice might say a law fails even rational basis while a lefty might say it passes strict scrutiny. The upshot is you've turned the justices into a super legislature rather than a court of law.
>>65012418yeah uh that's cool*successfully invades your country piecemeal because your military command is strictly localised with no overarching authority*
>>65012443>started showing its cracks in the mid-19th centuryMore like in 1791 lelBut I submit an additional argument for the peoples' right to keep and bear arms: if the 2nd applied to militia service, why would a government need to grant itself rights?
>>65012454>but what's your reasoning for this one?post-Dreadnought battleships were barely a blip in naval historyHMS Dreadnought commissioned down in 1906Last Battleship commissioned 194640 years
>>65011920I already didn't like the micro compact 9s when they were single stack, but the double stacks seem like the worst of both worlds to me. They're too skinny compared to a traditional subcompact so it's hard for me to get a consistent grip on them, but they're too big and heavy for pocket carry. What's even more confusing is that people acted like that .12 inch difference between micro compacts and subcompacts was night and day for concealment, but they walk around with these giant kydex holsters with sidecars, claws, wings, pillows, and all sorts of other gimmicky shit. Concealment didn't get more complicated, companies just invented more products to sell and it worked out well for them.
>>65012463Red flag laws are a civil process. The issue is they represent a very serious deprivation with somewhat curtailed process, often ex parte. By contrast a police investigation is not as serious deprivation of your rights.Police should investigate and take reasonable steps to prevent crime. But if they dont have enough evidence to arrest someone, it's unclear to me why they should have the power to disarm you.
>>65012469>The upshot is you've turned the justices into a super legislature rather than a court of law.They are already, and to some extent it's unavoidable no matter what. Ultimately the systems don't exist in a vacuum, they're run by humans. But in general over a very long time now the actual reality is the US court system has been very, very protective of the 1A. I mean, given the opportunity I'd formalize it all further and reduce wiggle room and ambiguity for sure, but I think it's a better construct then the incoherent "history" thing they pulled out of their butts and will probably get tossed when the pendulum next swings back. I'd like something that dampens that, that secures strong rights but has a self-consistent and reasonable way to deal with the middle of a city full of future astronauts being a different situation then rural tight knit communities. Something that the general public will find pretty reasonable and thus will maintain strong democratic (in the little-d, not the party) support. There are zero rights we have that can last forever if most of the public ends up against it.
>>65012485>if they dont have enough evidence to arrest someone, it's unclear to me why they should have the power to disarm you.what if there exists a murky grey area of reasonable suspicion between these two binary states
>>65012481>why would a government need to grant itself rights?Holy civics education, batman. The Constitution is literally a grant of power, i.e. rights, to the federal government. It's a social contact through which the people granted their sovereign a limited set of enumerated powers.
>>65012454Essentially? Lots of people treat it like this sudden massive leap in technology. Something like stealth if you want to make a somewhat apples-to-oranges comparison.But realistically, it was just another step, one that other nations weren’t too terribly far behind on because most of the technologies that enabled Dreadnought were ones that had already existed but either hadn’t been fully mature, or just hadn’t been married together.
>>65012491The state only should have the power to detain people in very specific circumstances. It can either do it criminally by arresting someone under probable cause they violated a criminal statute or via a civil process by a preponderance of evidence that someone is so mentally impaired the state needs to male decisions for them. I don't think it's wise to create a "tiered" system of liberty beyond this where the the state can unilaterally take away your rights without full throated legal proceedings.
>>65012514An idealistic system is subject to the varied and ambiguous circumstances of reality, resulting in methods theoretically objectionable but practically necessary
>>65012454NTA and I find >>65012483 to be a retarded argument, but my case would be laid out on three levels>Dreadnought itselfBoring, uneventful career>Design trendsPlenty of other nations were already making Dreadnought-analogs, the South Carolina class would leapfrog the wing turret designs and go with the classic superfiring arrangement, while the Satsumas were intended to be all-big-gun armed but shortages of the 12" gun forced a change to a more conventional design. Overall Dreadnought was just first but everyone was headed that direction already.>Balance of powerBefore Dreadnought Britain held a naval edge and older battleships were gradually replaced with newer models. After Dreadnought Britain held a naval edge and older battleships were gradually replaced with Dreadnoughts.
>>65012523I think the current system provides plenty of leeway for proactive law enforcement intervention. I don't believe people should be deprived of constitutional rights based on a thinly substantiated accusation.
>>65012443The methodology I'm espousing could bring more soldiers to arms than ever before in all of history.>>65012475I specifically mentioned an overarching authority: the equivalent of a lieutenant and SFC would be full time positions at the community level and everything above that would be single unified hierarchy, just like the Army of today, that can commandeer militia platoons as needed.
>>65011708The future is homemade drones loaded with homebrewed bioweapons.
>>65012539>proactive law enforcement interventionThe issue is what exactly does that entail? If Edgelord McGee is posting about how a political/religious/racial/social group is irredeemable and that the "day of vengeance" for them draws near, what is this middle ground recourse that protects his constitutional rights?
The solution is simple: we arrest and prosecute people for what they've done, not for what they've said they might do.>B-but, people might die!!Freedom isn't free.
>>65011926This will happen in my life time. I'm part of the MIC, right now the push with AI is about keeping "operators in the loop". But during the meetings there's a clear undertone the military and mic want full autonomic drones/UGV, but neither wants the liability for when it fucks up.Mark my words- it'll start with one operator per system, then swarm, and once we're either used to swarm (50 years) or in a major power conflict with an adversary that out numbers us, adoption of full autonomy will occur and that's when we'll have terminators walking (rolling) around and we'll justify the carnage with the same excuse used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In the words of LTC Kilgore "someday, this war's gonna end..."
>>65012307the point is controlling itdrones require an operator & multiple ways of controlling them (to varying effectiveness)mortars use gravity
>>65011662I think quite the opposite of you OP, I think fixed fortifications are retarded and subject to saturation attacks and SEAD strikes. I think being mobile partly fixes the shahed spam
I've come to realize that maybe there is a point where you kind of have too many gunsBecause now you need a shitton of ammo
>>65012551>I specifically mentioned an overarching authorityso we form a larger army under command of the government (let's be honest, that's what an overarching authority is) to keep another internal army in check
>>65012525>Overall X was just first but everyone was headed that direction already.Reductive, could be said of a huge number of important inventions>nuclear weapons weren't that important, everyone was researching that already
>>65012554There's no crime committed there.
>>65012624>sir, I can hear the sound of people being murdered in your home, allowing me to investigate under probable causeI have not committed a crime, do not infringe upon my rights>understood, have a nice day
>>65011708>mad about being poor
>>65012554Did he commit a crime?No?Then fuck off and go do your job where you're actually needed (the ghetto)
>>65012639>officer, I have reason to believe a black man is about to break into my home and murder my familyDid he commit a crime?No?
>>65012653No but that black man probably needs the cops more than I do because there's usually more crime in his area
>>65012639>>65012632>the current system provides plenty of leeway for proactive law enforcement intervention>but don't you dare actually do anything >:(>wooooow the FBI knew that guy was a danger and did nothing, clearly they wanted him to shoot up that school so they could pass more gun control
>>65012632Racism online isnt the same thing as the sound of people being murdered. If an officer heard those sounds he'd be justified in entering the home, even without a warrant.
>>65012653>Calling the pigs to defend your life and livelihoodHoly shit, imagine being this utterly cucked.
>>65012653Are you seriously advocating arresting someone over a phone call from a Karen?
>>65012657>muh school shootingsMandatory armament of teachers along with pro gun courses that teach children how to safely handle firearms>but what if they dont want to be armedDock their pay to pay for metal detectors and security.
>>65012390Just make it hand windup like a big egg beater handle, or spring wound you can cycle one at a time like the miltek mgl 40mm thing.
>>65012653Nigger, that's what Terry Stops are for.
>>65012602Claiming my point is reductive is in itself reductive, there's a major difference between the innovation of early dreadnoughts and nuclear weapons.
Use it or lose it is complete bullshit. You dont have to go to the range every 2 weeks or every month to keep your skill.You need to do that if you want to be top of your game but you dont need to be top of your game. You just need to be good enough. Theres so many videos of guys who havent shot a gun since nam getting handed thier issued gun and it all comes back. Yeah they are slower than they would have been 40-50 years ago but thats age. Skills still there.
War is war, ‘rules’ do not exist. Take the enemy’s country by force, it does not matter if it is an enemy combatant or civilian. Everything within their borders is a target. Keep dropping bombs until everyone in that country has their spirit broken or their body, whichever comes first. You trying to drag this thing out or not? Fucking get it done. Fuck hearts and minds. If the civilians truly cared about themselves, they would escape their country by any means necessary. If you are at war and you do not do everything to get an edge over your enemy you do not deserve to win.
>>65012309That sounds more like doomscrolling than reading. If I'm reading non-fiction, I'm stopping for a few seconds every time I hit an interesting point in order to incorporate that with what I know; maybe it's just a factoid, filed away by itself, or maybe it modifies how I think about a subject. Conversely, if I'm reading fiction, I'm constantly putting myself in the protagonist's shoes (or at times the shoes of a bystander in that world), and asking myself what I might have done in the same circumstances. I can't imagine just passively reading without actively thinking about what I had just read. Maybe Mr. Schopenhauer just didn't have an internal monologue?
>>65012693>just commit war crimes!brown post
>>65012693That's part of how we got the Thirty Year's War.
>>65012043Compromise when it comes to gun control just means the antis don't get everything they want right now, but they'll be back in a few years to compromise with you again to take away more shit. The problem is that the antis will only ever be content with a full ban.
Zastava should start making Yugo SKS's and Mausers again.
>>65012660>If an officer heard those sounds he'd be justified in entering the home, even without a warrant.No crime has been committed
>>65012819I guess murder isn't a crime in your shithole
>>65012777ajd ne laprdaj
>>65012553>homemade dronesLightly modified civilian drones or 3d printed but basically correct>homebrewed bioweaponsAny homebrewed bioweapon is going to be dogshit compared to what you can get in a proper lab, if anything it’ll be chemical bombs
>>65012217Thanks to programs like PRISM anyone that has ever said the point of the 2A is to give people the power to overthrow the government is on a list.Nearly all of us are on their radar.
>>65012917Dog you're like two levels behindThe list is dynamically compiled the moment you're put into their radar, look up parallel construction
>>65012837AIN'T I FUCKIN RIGHT THOUGH???? EVERY MOTHERFUCKER THIS SIDE OF THE ROCKIES WANTS 1000 BUCKS FOR THE DAMN THING AND IT'S ALL BUBBAD AND SHIT AND DOSEN'T HAVE THE GRENADE LAUNCHING SPIGGOT
>>65011708I bought a KAC upper because I want something thay can run with little to no clea ing or maintenance
>>65012173>modern guns (or modern people for that matter) in mind.Arms are arms. Including crew serviced arms (cannons) and ships. Current year silencer/pistol brace chicanery would have been done with horse (cavalry) and flint licensing. It's about 2 things: slaves cannot bear arms by definition (and one does not own property without the means - and will - to defend it, as an extension of one's own person); and collective total defense. Tactical nuke havers are a non sequitur for lolberts to debate fruitlessly. There has never been since the last native tribes were pacified, an immediate persistent distributed threat use case quite like the current day, with an estimated 200k Special Interest Aliens (probable terrorists) and 20k identified terrorists waltzed into the country in the space of the previous 4 years. The one good argument for 'gun control' is limited and conditional political franchise - like an actual Republic - what the Founders didn't anticipate was mass democracy and direct Senator election becoming things, under such corrupt conditions and foreign influence without political separation coming into the miscarried 1860s picture.
>>65012592It's not the pieces, it's the clusterfuck of calibers.
>>65011662Iran, Israel, and the United States are all doing extremely poorly in the current war and none of them have a path to actual victory.
>>65013101what exactly is Iran meant to do?
>>65012819The test is probable cause of an exigent circumstance, including someone getting murdered. It doesn't matter no crime has been committed.
>>65013101Lay off the CNN buddy.
>>65013122>It doesn't matter no crime has been committed.so we now acknowledge there's a grey area in which measures are justified
>>65013143I'm saying the law already had this covered. Police can make minor searches and seizures when they have probable cause, or even just an reasonably articulated suspicion that crime has been committed or criminal activity is in progress. But getting stopped, frisked, and questioned is a much less egregious deprivation than indefinite disarmament as a result of an uncontested court hearing.
>>65012070>That everyone must by law be given access to root key stores, source code, etc, that there cannot be any technical barriers to people fixing and altering their own stuff.This is a good idea in principle, but has a fuck ton of issues economically if you actually try to force it through, including but not limited to other regulations: - you basically open up the door to cloning and fucking up any significant R&D investment, why bother to invest billions in R&D, when retards can buy you product and get the full data package for reverse engineering it, thus getting the ability to make a clone without all those investments, i.e. your killing your own businesses and giving power to retards abroad to compete with you;- you break apart the economy of a ton of industries where, for one reason or another, there's no chance to sell more machinery and thus the economy of the market has to rely on follow up revenues from service, parts and shit like that, thus if you remove that the prices of the machinery itself will just do 100x or even 10000x and fuck over any sense of affordability, and thus cause the market to go to shit for both sellers and buyers;- companies are already getting squeezed by the regulations about the "right to repair" in a sense of having parts being available (if you only knew how much of a shitfest it actually is from the company's side of things kek), even if it's technically a good idea overall, and thus will just cause more issues for your manufacturers and raise the barrier to entry for smaller potential new manufacturers entering the market, because they can't afford to follow that stuff;
>>65012418>limited power projectionI guess zero is a limit.How would you maintain a navy like this? Maybe if you want only a brown watter navy, you could to part of the work. But maintaining a blue watter navy that can protect shipping sounds like an impossibility if everyone is on a 1 week rotation.
>>65012070cont. >>65013171>An electronic gun that was fully mine would indeed be fucking awesome. I'd love to have something that little hands could not misuse no matter what, that criminals would also find useless, and that had a few other quality of life niceties that you'd get for free (perfectly adjustable good trigger wherever you wanted or made sense, automatic built-in shot counting and so on). No, it wouldn't. You're just a neophyte with glowing eyes, whom has no idea about the reality. You don't need companies doing "enshittification" for the product to become worse once you start adding bullshit. It happens organically because you add unnecessary over-complicated and hard to rely on parts into the mix. A gun with electronics, even made without enshittification goals, is still a gun which will:- fail you at the most important time, not because a bullet is a dud or it failed to extract or the metal part broke, but because the code running inside crashed, froze, bugged out or just had a brain fart with something like garbage collection, race conditions or something else;- fail you because the batteries died;- fail you because the sensor died fully or partially;- etc, etc, etc;You're basically bolting the most unreliable and hard to debug part of the device into the mix and expecting it to become better. Lol, lmao.
1. The US slept through the last 4+ years of the russia-ukraine war and didn't learn anything, such as the drone stuff, because of hubris. "Hurr-durr a real army wouldn't have issues with drones" and such. To the point of denying the propositions of ukies to share experience, tech and other such stuff just months ago before the attack on Iran. What followed was expected. Shooting Patriot PAC-3s at drones. Not being able to shot down drones. Getting bases attacked by drones. "Hurr-durr a real army would have EW" and such. Nice lost radars mkay...2. The planning and decision making degenerated to a borderline russia-tier. The lies, the lack of plans, the lack of vision of what needs to be done. The fact that nobody assumed the issues in the strait of Hormuz - is this amateur hour? Now retards will probably send muhrines to that shitty island only for them to get shot by drones from the coast. What a fuckin' shitshow.
>>65013171>you basically open up the door to cloning and fucking up any significant R&D investment, why bother to invest billions in R&D, when retards can buy you product and get the full data package for reverse engineering it, thus getting the ability to make a clone without all those investments, i.e. your killing your own businesses and giving power to retards abroad to compete with you;This can be done anyway. Binary is essentially zero barrier at this point to any serious RE effort anon, what you wrote there is the equivalent of saying>"without the source code nobody can discovery security vulnerabilities!"Lack of source is only a barrier for normal people trying to make improvements. And in this case we're also talking hardware as the key component. If someone violates a company's IP, they can sue them and with hardware that's not something trivial to avoid. You've gotten too far into the "I can pirate a movie so IP is dead!" mindset. Once actual for-profit companies usage come into the picture that is way less trivial.>you break apart the economy of a ton of industries whereAnd yet somehow none of that was an issue until 15 years ago or so. So good. If their only business model is to artificially squeeze people then they deserve to die.>right to repairNot something I support fwiw, but that's not the same thing as BLOCKING people from trying to repair themselves.>>65013182>a pile of literal fudd FUDAnon, electronics can be far more reliable then guns themselves by a wide margin. All the idiotic fear larp you write is proven wrong every single day.>the most unreliable and hard to debug part of the deviceYou have this backwards. Guns and ammo are massively less reliable and harder to debug then solid state electronics.
>>65013202>such as the drone stuff, because of hubrisI don't think this is it in multiple ways:- We've had a massive change of administration with total retards coming into power, who add onto that a mindless opposition to anything anyone else did before and videogame logic they think is real. That's not "the US" sleeping through the war, we were definitely paying attention, and nobody else would have launched a retarded war like this.- To the extent things have been delayed further then that it's less "hubris" and more "entrenched interests, path dependency, contractor issues" etc.>2. The planning and decision making degenerated to a borderline russia-tier. The lies, the lack of plans, the lack of vision of what needs to be done. The fact that nobody assumed the issues in the strait of Hormuz - is this amateur hour? Now retards will probably send muhrines to that shitty island only for them to get shot by drones from the coast. What a fuckin' shitshow.This is all completely true though. It's beyond amateur hour. I mean holy shit, here's a gary larson cartoon about the fucking strait of Hormuz with mines and cheap dangerous boats of the day and shit FROM NINETEEN FUCKING EIGHTY SEVEN (1987) jesus christ.>noooobody could have seen this coming!!FFS
>>65013882>This can be done anyway. Binary is essentially zero barrier at this point to any serious RE effort anonNah. You have no idea how much of mess reverse engineering is if you don't have access to shit. I actually do reverse engineering. >If someone violates a company's IP, they can sue them and with hardware that's not something trivial to avoidIt doesn't work like that in the real world, because the legal system is fucked and can't do speedy trials. Which is a whole other set of bullshit not only for businesses, but even more so for people in both civil and criminal matters.>You've gotten too far into the "I can pirate a movie so IP is dead!" mindsetI know you're joking, but if you knew how bad situation is with piracy first hand, you wouldn't be so dismissive of this. For example, a lot of games and such are specifically bad because of piracy. Why do you think we don't have games like Unreal Tournament and Quake of back in the day and instead are fed online multiplayer bullshit? Because it's harder to pirate online multiplayer bullshit. Do you think those gacha and other free-to-play trash cancer bullshit games are made for shits and giggles? No, because they know that people are cheap faggots and don't want to pay for a game (even if they spend thousands of hours there), but they'll definitely find dumb fucks among the audience to sell skins and other such shit to.>"without the source code nobody can discovery security vulnerabilities!"No, but it's definitely an order of magnitude harder to find vulnerabilities. And often the vulnerabilities found were in fact because open source components were used by the close sourced software, a la the pnglib used in iPhones exploited to jailbreak them back in the day kek.1/x
>>65013882cont. >>65013951>And yet somehow none of that was an issue until 15 years ago or so. So good. If their only business model is to artificially squeeze people then they deserve to die.a) It was always an issue, you just didn't notice it or were too young kek. Printers with ink cartridges getting chipped started in the fuckin' 90s;b) the rise of china due to offshoring shit there exacerbated the issue over time, both because of cloning and actually making bootleg shit parts, which would fuck over the original equipment (yes, that was a big thing);>Not something I support fwiw, but that's not the same thing as BLOCKING peopleThese issues are tied together. A lot of the "anti-consumer" policies aren't actually about blocking a specific person from fixing his product, but about avoid side-effect bootleg economies to form around your product. Such as fake chink parts for your iPhone, which not only fuck over the product in terms of quality (you'd be surprised just how bad many of those are) and thus how its viewed by other people, but also even security. Remember how people were robbed to steal their iPhones? Pepperidge farm remembers. iCloud lock fucked over that market. Then they'd started to be sold for parts, which was an order of magnitude less lucrative, but still a thing. Hence parts matching and such. You'd be surprised just much shit is being done in the world and how you have to actively work around this unless you want to get raped in the ass. 2/3
>>65013882cont. >>65013953>Anon, electronics can be far more reliable then guns themselves by a wide margin.Can be, but they aren't. For fuck's sake, we're not in the 70's and 80's anymore. Almost nothing is designed with dedicated components and such. You'll have a shitty micro-controller running a shitty full blown os, running a shitty modern high-level scripting language (or multiple of them kek), tied together with third-party libraries coded just for fun, with a dash of code made by H1B pajeets or students hired through LGBT quotas - all of which work only when the stars align in a specific way. Look around you with open eyes, there's almost no reliability in software and modern electronics are 90% software, and even when you go with hardware they also somehow fuck it up. No "planned obsolesce" (which is fake btw) required, things will just fuck up because of people without generations of experience doing decisions which they don't have an interest it and which they won't dog food themselves, relying on CAD, simulations and catalog specs, without understanding that half of that is bullshit lmao, especially once they get shit from the actual supplier.
Johnny Rico becoming his father's CO extremely Freudian and deserves more talk than it does.I find his father using him as the basis of what a man should be and can become is a weird flip on the usual literary device of the son becoming father. Shits weird yo
>>65013896>We've had a massive change of administration with total retards coming into power, who add onto that a mindless opposition to anything anyone else did before and videogame logic they think is real.Yes, this didn't help, but IMO it's an overall institutional/cultural issue, not the administration specific one. Go read up on how the US delegate to Ukraine on military matters was handling things during the Biden administration. It's russia-tier bullshit. >That's not "the US" sleeping through the war, we were definitely paying attention, and nobody else would have launched a retarded war like this.Specific enthusiasts are paying attention. Some fat Ryan McBeth type nerd pays attention. You pay attention. But for most people in the US gov, department of war (lol, lmao) or even the US Army overall it's something which they heard about in 2022 and then it went into the background, with them forgetting the war is still even a thing, let along keeping their hand on the pulse of how the modern battlefield actually functions. This isn't even a US specific issues btw, look up what experience ukie soldiers say about western training: sure, it's good about tactical stuff, room clearing, trench battles, field medicine and all that, but there's no fuckin' clue about drones and such. To the point that AFU is choosing to train more and more people themselves instead of having them trained abroad. But even those whom kinda pay attention are often in the turbo-hubris mode of "well, a real army wouldn't have issues with drones" and "muh EW will fix things, it did when we were in Afghanistan" and our favorite "muh air power will prevent them from even launching drones" kek. It's true that generals are always preparing for the last war and it's true that an army doesn't learn its lesson until it gets fucked up. Kinda like the second Iraq war sent guys in Humvees to get shredded by IEDs and gunfire and then had to run with its ass blasted to develop and produce MRAPs.
>>65013182Google how many computer chips are in your car. It's such an absurd number that it might shatter your perception that computation must cause exponential complication and necessarily make a product fragile and unreliable. How many times has your car failed due to software or firmware crashing?I've had a tire pop, I've had a battery die, but I've not yet seen my car go dead because the canbus buffer overflowed. The code in my car has always worked my entire life and I literally trust my life to it every day and accept it as a fact of life.There is such a thing as good code when there's a strict expectation and enforcement in the industry that the code must work.Not saying no car ever has a software fault, but society at large accepted in the case of cars that the extra software risk is outweighed by the advantages of every component in the car being 'smart'. Guns could probably have likewise if firearm customers were any less conservative than cats, and if there was actually very much use for software in a gun besides the optics which are accepted as an aftermarket attached thing.>>65013955doomerism, true of your average google intern project made with electron that immediately goes to the graveyard but not the end of all code from now on forever
>>65013990>How many times has your car failed due to software or firmware crashing?>Didn't live through the "have to go to service to re-install the firmware every couple of months" cycle of early 2000s BMWWeak
>>65014009Honestly, that's on you for buying a BMW.
>>65014009>Didn't live through the "have to go to service to re-install the firmware every couple of months" cycle of early 2000s BMWmy life experience doesn't extend to driving 26 years ago but I'm sure it would have toughened me up to drive to the dealership in my working functioning car for some emission or airbag update a few times.If it was actually really worse than that back then I'll retract my sarcasm, but I did say in my comment I wasn't claiming no software problem ever happened, just that it's rare.I will mention I dislike all the touchscreen controls they're adding to save pennies on physical knobs, I think that's going to kill people. But again I wish anyone reading this can google how many microcontrollers are in the physical guts of a car and reflect on that as a metric for how reliable software can be when it's written with an effort to be reliable and perfected over time.
