>Everyone is making plastic, subcompact carry pistols with this rail on that surface or that mag capacity when the absolute GOAT of carry pistols has existed for decades…
>>65013188touche
>>65013185Nah, maks are shit. Heavy, heavy trigger, low cap, shit round. If youre seriously considering carrying a makarov, then a decent DA revolver in a bigdick round is a legitimately competitive alternative. Same mid trigger, probably lighter, in exchange for 2 less rounds, but if youre simping for a mak then you probably already agree with the premise that the overwhelming majority of CC incidents are resolved in 3 rounds or less, so what would two extra rounds of 9x18 even give you? So yeah, carry a .38 special snubnose instead, or even bigger.
>>65013208Man they are light, accurate and go bang when the trigger is pulled, they handle hollowpoints like a dream and the ergo's are top notch.
>>65013227>Man they are light, accurate and go bang when the trigger is pulledthe only thing I know about Makarov is Soviet police joke that Makarov optimal range is from which policeman can throw it at criminal(joke is that it's inaccurate as shit and heavy, so makes better throwing weapon than pistol)
>>65013265i personally have hit 6 inch wide steel plates at 50 to 100 yards with my mak consistently however it shoots to the right and isn't easy to adjust zero. It has a fixed barrel which helps.
>>65013185Even for a standard-issue pistol and even for slavshit turned out by the truckload the triggers on those things are atrocious.
>>65013185Get a Beretta 84FS instead if you insist on a da/sa vintage .380 (9mm Makarov is .380
>absolute GOAT of carry pistols>>65013185 wrong>>65013188 kinda rightThe Mak is a lot better than many people believe but it's not super awesome either. In my experience soviet maks are solidly built, surprisingly accurate and reliable. They're also quite heavy for their size and not as flat-wearing as they could have been. Safety that flips downward to fire makes more sense to me than the one on Walther PP or Beretta 92. DA trigger is meh.Sauer M38 is pretty underrated among kraut pocket pistols. Overshadowed by Walther PP but I would pick it over one in a heartbeat esp. for pocket carry.
>blowbackslop>GOATNo thanks, I'll take the hesitation-lock mechanism with 30% reduced slide weight and felt recoil, superior choice of chamberings (both 32 and 380) and perfectly ergonomic grip (chosen from 100 different hand molds made by Remington during the design phase)
>>65013185Have you ever shot a mak? That trigger is ROUGH
>>65013227This. I actually trust my MAC to work more reliably than any other polymer plastic pistol that I have. The MAC will go off after you drop it in mud or run it over with a truck. Its also the most accurate pistol I own with iron sights.
9mm Makarov is a puny round though.
>>65013185OP, I like the PM, and even had an East German one for a long time. BUT.It's a big pistol. I sold the one(s) I had for the same reason I sold off my Waffenamp't PP and PPK, and my CZ50 and 70. They were moving well into the "collectable" realm while also becoming cumbersome compared to modern offerings. I eventually took a deep fuckign breath and sold off most of my vest pocket guns, and bought a Ruger LCP and LC9 (for the cost of one postwar import Walther PP).I'm not at all faulting the quality or usefulness of these guns, just that as a carry piece, they are no longer viable as they are basically irreplaceable, and that realization is what drove me. I'd rather see my Luftwaffe proofed PPK in the hands of a collector, than in the hands of a police property room goof who may or may not give it any care.If I have my current LC9 rot in a property room for a few months as I sort out "Nog shooting No 3", I will not be saddened, as I was when I dealt with "Nog shooting No 2" where I used a fucking Astra 600, and the Goodyear PD let it develop a fine patina of rust. TL-DRBuy something cheap and effective because it will sit in a cop-shop sweat box til it is thouroughly fucked up.
>>65013208The Makarov was designed with the notion of "carry always, shoot never" in mind, so it's primary purpose was to be light, easily concealable and easy to maintain, hence the single stack mag, the anemic round and the direct blowback action. The soviets knew that everyone who's supposed to engage in a prolonged gunfight already has an AK variant to fit that purpose, but some people like cops and party agents needed to be armed to keep the proles in check, so the Makarov was designed for them. They didn't have to be worried about getting outgunned, because the population was already disarmed, so the Makarov was more than enough for them, it was more of a badge of office rather than a combat weapon, having a gun in the USSR meant you're with the party and everyone should shut the fuck up.
Way, WAY better options than a Mak, unless you live in a post soviet state and its all you can get under the table. That said, id love to own one for my Soviet arms collection. 1895 Nagant needs a friend.
>>65013227>>65017554Makarovs are not light. Even my Hi-Power is lighter (unloaded) and that gives 13 rounds of 9x19 (or 15 with modern mags) compared to 8 rounds of 9x18.
>>65013185They were great for the price back then, sure.
>>65013185I enjoyed my Makarov but it was a low-energy round, hollowpoints were unobtainium until Cor-Bon came out with a $$$$$$$$$ "self defense ammo" loading for it, and the combustion products literally smelled like someone took a crap on the range floor.
