Rights for all or privileges for none.What'll it be?
>>65014893there's actually a really simple solution to this. just exclude them from 'all'deport them to Burma or something using the skin tone chart.
>>65014894>privileges for noneCongratulations. Every American is now ambiguously covered by the Bill of Rights.
>>65014893let me know when someone who looks like that shoots up a church full of white people
>>65014893would be a non issue if americans just kept their criminals in jail rather than letting them go after significantly reducing their sentence
>>65014897nope it's still privileges for everyone who can pass the skin tone testliterally indistinguishable from rights for all except in the mind of jogger enablers
>>65014899>church
>>65014897>Every AmericanAs God intended. Transiting borders does not magically change your birth place.
>>65014903I cut, you choose.If you want to cut, then I choose, and to make this point, I choose "every skin tone except aquamarine" to be deported to Burma.
>>65014899If someone (appearance unknown) does, and I choose the former, what then?
>>65014899homo>>65014901I agree with what you said, but I'm going to call you a thirdie anyway, thirdie
>>65014906I'd go to church if I could run over the pews like that
Just enforce current laws on the books for negligent gun use.
>>65014906Martin Luther's grand plan coming to fruition.
>>65014893>for allChildren, criminals, and the mentally retarded aren't covered so it's not universal, on that basis other defectives and undesirables could be reasonably be excluded as well.
>>65014906What are they doing?
>>65014906Something has to break boredom of small town America. Why do you think we dont have snake handlers in urban churches?
>>65015170I dunno, city ordinances o algo. Wouldn't surprise me if the major metroplexes in America have some gay law banning snakes from churches, which is really discriminatory since my ball python is a good catholic boy and just wants to attend mass
>>65015140This is a Pentecostal church.
whats more importantthe constitution or demographics
>>65015198Demographics. 100%. Every time. It’s demographics.
>>650148932a like all of the pre illegal reconstruction amendment constitution only applies to Whites
>>65014893Fuck off faggot, all is not the entire world. All is every American citizen, the rest of the world already submitted to handing over their rights, that's why the new assault weapon ban in virginia was sponsored by a man born in Bangladesh named Saddam. When browns try to takes whites rights they earn the right to a rope.
>>65014912If I cut, it's your bad faith little throat
The country was founded for white men. So no, it’s not that difficult to see that nons shouldn’t have these “rights” you talk about
>>65014906At this point someone should just found a Gangbang For Jesus church, and sunday church is just a gangbang session. Like every other dumb niche is filled and it's at least as blasphemous as prosperity gospel.
>>65014893Rights for all, why is this up for debate?
>>65015588Ask the compromised anons in this thread.
>>65015583That's called being a Mormon, they're one of the more successful cults pretending to be Christians
>>65015588>Why is my bad faith oversimplification being posed in a disingenuous way even up for discussion????Gee, I wonder
>>65015638How are equal rights, which come from the Constitution a "bad faith" argument.
>>65015625apparently there is some whole fucking issue where one of the earlier edition books of mormon is in the library of congress so the heads of the mormon church are seething because you can go to the library of congress and see all the shit they changed in the last x years
>>65015668Joseph Smith was not a natural or particularly educated, and the 1st ed. very much reflects that.
>>65014894then it isnt all
>>65015656Oh, now its equal rights not rights for all. There is nothing wrong with the constitution, you twisting it to mean the rights of American citizens are the rights of the world is bad faith. The very premis of the thread a gotcha question so you can slippery sloap "rights". In b4, not that anon, I never said that, u mad!!1! or whatever other lazy straw man you throw
>>65015687It never was for foreigners
>>65015198I don't think the two are separable. John Adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."If you introduce several hundred thousand people without a functional moral compass or appreciation of maintaining a high trust society, the constitution cannot function as desired by its makers.
>>65014893You have not clearly explained where you stand OP. Still waiting for that. Posting a static shot of an individual with a pistol does not sell me.
Rights for me and hot women only
>>65016032I support rights for all, but I know seeming 2A supporters like to flip sometimes.
>>65016088>for allSo you support illigal immigrants with guns coming to America?
>>65016099the 2nd amendment clearly says "the right of the people" and courts in AZ correctly states only American citizens and legal residents are human beings and all foreigners are not human
>>65014893Rights for citizens. "All" is a fucking deranged qualifier.
>>65014897>nowWait until you go from kindergarten to elementary, your mind will be blown
>>65016099He can do that in his homeland, but not here. He's not American, so him militarizing is just foreign aggression, not rebellion or correction. He's not obligated to defend the Republic either. >>65016118He still has rights. Their expression simply changes while abroad. >>65016133Fair lmao.
>>65015588Miggers who want to tear up the bill of rights without realizing they'll likely be the first ones getting trampled on
>>65016104>>65016162What if a foreigner becomes a citizen then?
>>65016390Ideally, that should mean he's no different, but I'd only really accept it if we used Switzerland's system, where you're a citizen of your state and the people there have to know and like you.
>>65016390the courts have states that US citizens and legal residents are humans and foreigners are not. illegals and their children should be permanently barred from citizenship
>>65016395>ideallyAh so fiction then.
>>65016405>illegalsNot what I said. A foreigner becomes a citizen. So they go through all the red tape and pass all the tests and say the pledge of alliance and get their card. And now that they are a citizen they are allowed to buy guns. "All" remember? Learn to read dullard.
>>65016395No. Me and all my friends be come citizens and buy houses and form our own community still speaking our own language. Why are we different? We are citizens. "All" remember?
>>65016414citizens are humans, retard. foreigners are subhuman as has been confirmed by the courts. the courts even said legal residents can own guns. foreigners aren't people
>>65016424By definition a foreigner getting citizenship doesn't make them forign no matter how they act. "All" remember dullard?
>>65016426when did I say they were still foreigners, retardo?also we should revoke citizenship from anyone who entered the country after 1965 who wouldn't have been allowed entry prior to 1965
>>65014906I'm a catholic just because of family pressure, and i don't really practice the faith, but seeing these people for some reason really makes me want to purge heretics
>>65016419I mean the citizenship portion.In that case, I'd disapprove, but I wouldn't want the government to involve itself further.
>>65014893You can make rights exclusive and more reasonable, you literally write them, we can write whatever we want into law.
>>65016638>You can make rights exclusive and more reasonable, you literally write themIdiots like you will be the death of this country.
>>65016638rights come from the Christian God
>>65014893Rights for all. What unironically broke me out of the right wing echo chamber I was in was when hardcore 2nd amendment guys I knew were calling for troons to have their guns taken away from them. Same with free speech guys suddenly 180ing and saying you shouldn't be allowed to make fun of certain things or certain people dying and saying people should be fired for saying stuff that offends them (sound familiar?). Took me too long to realize my opinions were being curated by a bunch of grifters.Anyway, blogpost over, rights for all.
>>65015766>Oh, now its equal rights not rights for all.These mean the same thing > There is nothing wrong with the constitution, you twisting it to mean the rights of American citizens are the rights of the world is bad faith.Exactly, this is why they're only in force within borders of the US, not globally >The very premis of the thread a gotcha question so you can slippery sloap "rights". Yes, why are you denying rights for all/equal rights which are protected by the Constitution from other Americans living inside our borders?
>>65016405>the courts have states that US citizens and legal residents are humans and foreigners are notThis statement is wrong, otherwise you could kill an illegal without repercussions because it'd be no different than shooting deer on your property. Many protections of the Constitution apply to foreigners and some apply to even illegals. The scope and context of rights and protections afforded to them changes, but foreigners are not considered animals or non-humans. That's some weird schizo fantasy which you have.
>>65016878>otherwise you could kill an illegal without repercussions because it'd be no different than shooting deer on your property.pretty sure I can't legally shoot a deer in my yard. https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-migrants-do-not-have-gun-rights-protected-2nd-amendment-federal-appeals-courtmultiple courts and judges have upheld the stance that illegal aliens are not humans and therefore do not have human rights since the 2nd amendment only extends to people
>>65014893>>65014897>>65014894>>65015198>>65015470>>65015656If I had to choose between no one but government stooges being armed or everyone being armed I'd choose everyone, because that's the side that statistics actually say results in less violence. Yes, even if you have joggers, arming everyone results in less violence and this isnt an arguable stat.This is reality though, and we actually dont have to choose all or nothing. You can just get rid of all of the subhumans.
>>65016841When you grow up you'll realize the only political distinction that matters in a dying society is "friend or enemy".I will never again waste time defending the rights of someone who would kill me if they had the ability to do so without repercussions. I will also not participate in the persecution of someone who would defend my life physically without being bidden to do so.
>>65016912>Hurr durr, Rome is falling, all hail Caesar, everyone that disagrees with me wants to kill me, hypocrisy only matters when the other side does it/pol/ has rotted your brain and I hope you get better
>>65016942nta, but thirdies weren't allowed in the US until 1965. we literally are in unprecedented times>>65016908>linked to 6 poststhis guy paid for 4chan gold
>>65014906Looks like a special ed class
>>65016853The real question is why do you support child rape? You can lie all you want, we know what you are and you will burn.
>>65016908Chicago proves you wrong. Only Americans have the rights from American laws. Foreign influence is trying to pervert that.
>>65014893Rights for whites.
>>65014893Rights for all, after we remove the feminists, communists and minorities that our countries never should have allowed citizenship or equality in the first place.
>>65017546non sequitur
>>65018160They are the ones that introduce legislation to eliminate rights in the bill of rights, so this is fair.
Just make hunting black people legal, pretty simple
Rights for all. You rarely benefit from pushing restrictions that can backfire on you. With that being said, 'don't trust them new niggas over there'!'
>>65014906My guess is pentacostal. Those people are real nutjobs
>>65015198I swore to protect the constitution, not demographics. That shit is unAmerican.
>>65014906fucking americans lmao.
You're all sick people. I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all. I put a curse upon you all. Fuck ya mudda
>>65014897The first question you should be asking yourself is, "What is an American?"The founding fathers clearly knew:
>>65017546>can't answer>chimp out with a non-sequitur and well poisoning Many such cases! Sad! Everyone in the Epstein files must be prosecuted, including the prez by the way.
>>65027641If we're going by 1790s standards of white then you should deport every single person with Irish ancestry, then the Italians, then the Slavs too
>>65014906This is what happens when you don't need a theology degree to be a priest. Judeo-Americanism was a mistake.
>>65015198Constitution will change after demographics change.
>>65014893Rights for all law-abiding American citizens of European descent. Ez.
>>65028183Most negros have European ancestry.
>>65016878>not considered animals or non-humans.But they should be. You're criticizing anon for being optimistic
>>65016649 >>65016745Rights are written laws, they still call them the Latin word "writ" in courts. The elites don't want you to know what rights actually are because you'll demand more to be written. They've tricked the retard masses into thinking "rights" are some subjective concept pertaining to human dignity. They're not, they're objectively written protections in law.There is no word in the English language for entitlements pertaining to human dignity, and that's another word game they play. They don't want such a word to exist or you would use it to demand that your dignity be respected.
>>65015198Constitution is just a piece of paper
>>65028303Where did that kike write them and who's enforcing them? Your fake and gay laws mean nothing, this is not a theocracy. You can claim anything is an entitlement but with no enforcement you're just a rambling idiot, which you are.
>>65028327It is enforced at least to the level that it has hindered a lot of kike plans. Goddamn you /k/rannies are retarded, no understanding of law.
>>65028332>it has hindered a lot of kike planslmao, like what?
>>65028361>Everyone knows what a nigger is.Ask a guy in the 1790s if he thinks paddies or Italians are white
>>65028365Let's ask him if he'd rather have a few of them or a country 80% black as coal.
>>65028378noguns
>>65028465You won't because you don't own any. You're not even american. I accept your defeat. Any reply by you that isn't a timestamped gun is a further admission of defeat, little bitch.
>>65028476thank you for proving my point.
you didn't prove shit thirdie
>>65028459>>65028469>>65028565I'll post my gunz when you post yours, thirdie. but we know you wont because you have no gunz thirdie
>>65014906You know, when the South Park episode aired where everyone in town treated church service like a sort of variety show where they could unwind after a work week, I thought it was satire.
>for your right to etc and so forth
>>65028159>going by 1790sShitalians, Pidors and leprechauns are brown by today standards still.
>>65016255Nogunz
>>65016841and the whole bus clapped
>>65016255Bingo.
>65028719You need to be 18 to post here.
>>65029020that doesn't look like a gun to me>>65029008samefaggot
>>65028159Irish were never considered non-White by the American legal system.
>>65028863Ayyyyy We wuz artists and explorers and knowledge keepers n sheeit while you played in your swamps wyboy
>Nooooo you have to let the shitskins and trannies, who express their hatred and desires to kill you, arm up because ugh uhh because um.... BECAUSE YOU JUST FUCKING HAVE TO, OKAY!?!?!?
>>65014903>you should only have rights if you pass the test>and the people issuing the tests will always let me passthe wheel turns, you dumb fuck. laws made to hurt someone else will someday be used on you
>>65016841Nothing has disillusioned me from right wing politics more than realizing that the only value most of them hold is "my side is right", and they'll stomp on every principle I thought we shared with a fucking smile on their face if they think it's politically convenient. I thought we all hated the boot, it turns out most of them were just mad that their color wasn't on it, then suddenly it's super chill and even based for federal agents to search, arrest, and fucking gulag citizens without so much as a warrant. I've voted republican all my life but I don't think I can this november, this shit has been fucking repulsive and I can't look at it and tell myself "yes, this is what I want more of in my country". >>65016912Fuck you. You don't get to complain about a dying society when you're part of the rot. Taking away rights from your enemies is the same thing as taking them away from yourself. If you think there isn't a chance you'll ever be considered an enemy you're either a retard, a coward, or a cowardly retard.
>>65029239>If you beat your enemies, they win
>>65029249>Surely the government will never strip MY rights away after I give them the ability to do so!
>>65029253>Surely the third world voters were not planning on stripping my rights a la Zimbabwe & South Africa!
Funny how the most permissive firearms control regime in German history was under Adolf Hitler when he deregulated the possession of long guns for German citizens.
>>65029239Lolbert fags like you are principled losers, simple as. You argue from a position where your enemies are beholden to laws and rules you can't enforce and they have no reason or motivation to follow. Worse, your do nothing attitude seeks to paralyze those who are not content slowly dying because lolberts have confused pacifism with inability.>muh cuntshryYou don't want a country, you want a meme. You country doesn't exist and, like all lolberts, you'll lose everything because you put the cart of open immigration and democracy before the horse of government with a libertarian framework. You'll let 40 million illegal authoritarians squat in your country and raise the next generation of voters because to remove them will be uncomfortable and stress the NAP.
>>65029253>>65029239You don't have to give them the ability to do it, once you're a small enough minority in your own country, the thirdie welfare queens you're now helping facilitate the unfettered importation of will just vote to strip you of them, and then you'll have the privilege of being the wageslave underclass that feeds the increasingly huge gaping maw of the global south that has arrived to feed on the soon to be corpses of western liberal democracies.
>>65028719your turn, closeted mutt.
>>65029239illegal aliens are neither citizens nor people, faggot
>>65029312see >>65029020
>>65029313the courts have been clear on this, no gunz. I fail to see why I should give a shit about criminal invaders being sent back to the nations they are citizens of
>>65029318>no gunzsee >>65029309
>>65029268this>>65029275I was going to say I don't think that's true, but germany is an extremely young country (only like 150 years old) and most of german history has involved a foreign army occupying berlin
>>65029321>>65029313>>65029309>>65029020>>65028469nice airshit, you dickless thirdie. nonAmericans are not people
>>65029299>You argue from a position where your enemies are beholden to laws and rules you can't enforce and they have no reason or motivation to followI argue from a position that doesn't assume it's an inevitability that the US will turn in to a totalitarian third world shithole. I don't want to choose my flavor of totalitarian shithole, I'd rather it not be such a shithole in the first place.
>>65029365letting foreign invaders invade and vote will turn the US into a totalitarian shithole. see NY, virginia, minnisota and california nonAmericans are evil, thirdie
>>65016841>>65029239a lotta shills like you here these days, not that surprising. Still, aren't you embarrassed at what you are
>>65029341>all that projection>those sausage fingers>actual airshit lowerLMAO
>>65029465you can't even see my whole finger, thirdie. anyone who uses the word >muttisn't American and is by definition a dickless, no gunz thirdie. airshit faggot
>>65029472>you can't even see my whole finger, thirdie.Exactly. I shudder to think at the sheer size of the meat obelisks you call your fingers if that's just part of it. >airshit faggotMore projecting? It's not my fault you can't recognize the literal most common modern pistol in any market. For all your impotent screeching about noguns and thidies and homos you turned out to be a closeted, noguns, and also a fatso. OOF.
>>65029496>Exactly. I shudder to think at the sheer size of the meat obelisksbased on a third of my thumb? you're retarded>More projecting? I posted a gun, you posted airshit, thirdie. weird how your finger isn't showing like mine was. I wonder why
>>65016118There are, in fact, different rights for "citizens" and "everyone in the US" as two different categories. It's weird that you can display a high level of concern while at the same time display a low level of information, but I guess that makes you the perfect "rank and file" party line voter.
>>65029555if you aren't in the US legally, you should not have any rights whatsoever
>>65029505>based on a third of my thumb?That's even worse, thubby. Post a full picture of your hand so we can see if you're truly fat or if I was mistaken.>airshit claim againDo go on, point out which parts of my glock lower are evidence of it being airshit, underaged hambeast.
>>65029580Isn't the whole issue that we won't deport people here illegally so we *have* to set out what "rights" and enforcement budgets we're going to have for them?
>>65029597>That's even worse,you can't say my thumb is fat without seeing it. you are projecting, fatso>Post a fulafter you, fatso>Do go on, the whole thing is airshit, thirdie fatso>>65029609please don't call them people
>>65029580>declare that someone is no longer a citizen>kidnap and torture them because lol norights
>>65029632foreign invaders are not citizens and are not peopleit's the same reason why I didn't give a shit when they were blowing up boats or when fags were seething over tomahawks
>>65029629>claim everyone is a thirdie noguns>has a meltdown when someone posts an actual gun>tries to do the same by posting an airsoft lower>is unironically a fatsoFucking topkek. I accept your defeat jelly belly.
>>65014894>get a tan>guns gone foreverGod I hate /pol/niggers so much its unreal
>>65029324Germany is very old but you're obviously a person that has trouble understanding cultures before they were classified as "countries" like in the modern ethos. Is Greece a young country because it was founded in 1832 or is it an ancient civilization that has spanned over a few thousand years?Amerimutt/5 post.
>>65016118>can't read a fucking heat map award This chart filtered so many retards it could actually, factually be used as an intelligence test.
>>65014901>AmericansYou mean Democrats, the ones chanting Death to America? I can't in good conscience call them Americans, as they hate all rights and freedoms associated with being American and campaign endlessly to make us as gay and cucked as the UK and Australia.
>>65029654/pol/niggers, barely a working neuron within their brains, yet they can vote. (Half of them at least as they're mostly underaged spastics)
>>65029645>foreign invaders are not citizens correct>and are not peopleretarded 4chan jingoism reveals the fact you're just having fun by being edgy
>>65029652>can't identify an AR lower>posts airshit>seethes about "mutts" >gets offended by a white thumbyeah, you got no gun and no dick, fatso thirdie >>65029671only Americans are people
>>65029676>only Americans are peoplehow would you know? you've never seen the outside of your flyover state
>>65029682Bold to assume he ever left his mom's basement.
>>65029682>>65029703I can say confidently, only Americans are people, based off of interacting with nonAmericans on 4chan
>>65029712Duly noted. I keep the opinion of a neet fatso on 4chan in high regards.
>>65029365>doesn't assume it's an inevitability that the US will turn in to a totalitarian third world shitholeLike most western countries you're barreling towards the point of no return at a breakneck pace.Some countries (like Canada or the UK) have already most likely passed it due a combination of demographics - forget adults, look at the schools if you want to see the tomorrow - and rigid liberal policy that will be impossible to shift to full reverse without massive societal upheaval.These countries will just quietly die as western powers and become something akin to South Africa or these old Soviet industrial cities. A society in rapid, all-encompassing decline.The USA is nowhere near as bad, but reversing the course would still require country-wide hoe-scaring action that very few people have the stomach for, and which would probably lead to civil unrest that would make the summer of love look like a basket of kittens.Since that's not going to happen (king retard's "fascist" ICE action has barely made a dent in the numbers while causing a massive stink), you're gonna end in the same place as the rest, just a bit later.I used to be progressivism's strongest soldier back in the 90s when everyone thought the people of the world are just going to hold hands and walk into the sunset. After I grew up a little I turned into a lolbert just like you.Today I can see the world for what it is, and all the people whose rights you are fighting for? The ones running away from shitholes like Somalia, Pakistan, India or Haiti? There's a reason these places are the way they are, and it sure as fuck isn't generational trauma from colonialism. And these people are not the elite human capital these subcontinental grifter politicians promise you, or even hard-working people searching for the American Dream. They're vultures looking to strip the country to the bone and leave the carcass to rot.
>>65029654>It's only skin color! Lying kikes...
>>65029768I don't care what no gunz thirdie fatsos like you thnk>>65029790>gay seething about the president while defending communists and invaders
>>65029659modern day greeks are turks who have nothing to do with ancient greece, not even the same people, retard. no wonder you fags never put a man in space. and no germany only dates back to the 1870, where they immediately lost every war they ever fought and got btfo'd and colonized every time.faggot
>>65029790The US is already the least white western country. 41% white.
>>65029830Trump is a faggot who's doing nothing in the grand scheme of things while trying to sell it to his retard voters like (You) as being hard on immigration. It's not even putting a dent in it, and they're all ignoring the massive elephant in the room which is the widespread visa fraud.His half-assed, ill-prepared Iran war is also gonna lose republicans the majority in congress, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks pushing Iran's shit in is long overdue since Obama fucked everything up.
>>65014906>>65023535>My guess is pentacostal. Those people are real nutjobsI think you're right.That said, I can see that having a variety of positive mental, social and physical benefits.> you're getting little old ladies shaking their hips and people performing moderate aerobic exercise> you have a community of people being a bit silly which breaks down barriers and encourages cohesion> they get to let out some stress in a controlled and safe mannerSome people do this on a nightclub dance floor, this is a different form of the same thing wrapped up in some charlatanry and grift.
>>65028159DEAL
>>65028170>This is what happens when you don't need a theology degree to be a priest.You're probably correct about that.The ones that take religious trappings seriously are motivated to ensure everyone else does too by making it a very sober, profound affair.>Judeo-Americanism was a mistake.Well yes but so were all the others.
>>65028345Jan 6 failed due to the constitution
>>65029850the US is the only white country and the only western country>>65029867visa jeets were down 75% in 2025 compared to 2024. you just want more jeets and gun bans
>>65029629>the whole thing is airshit, thirdie fatsoGood lord, I'm noguns and I can tell a real glock inner from airsoft.
>>65029898>59% of people in the US are brown/black>41% is white>US statistics considers latinos and arabs as white>we iz unly withhe cuntry in da wordz Hahahaha
>>65029898Wrong. They were only down ~40% and they're ramping back up because Trump is beholden to corpos who want their h2b slave labor.
>>65016255Obsessed noguns tranny
>>65029959But enough about you.
>>65029953cry about it, no gunz, thirdie. only Americans are white>>6502995875%, liaryou are just a dem who wants gun bans and unlimited jeets>>65016255I have never heard a first worlder use the world >migger
>>65016841Very convincing post, shill
>>65029969>No uYou are brown
>>65029959>>65029971this, good posts
>>65029971>>65029978>>65029985
>>65029953>>59% of people in the US are brown/blackUS blacks are white on a global scale.
>>65029998hes just trolling lmao mad liberal
>>65014894>>65014903They actually tried to make a legal definition for "black" but nobody could agree on it. In fact, Syrians are legally white due to a supreme court decision. >>65029807see>>65014894>using the skin tone chart.
>>65028183White masters fucked too many slaves. Now african-americans are genetically european.
>>65029971Exactly, and i don even undertand why people scream about miga miga. I am proud of outting israel first. I would give up my guns for israel
>>65029998there is literally not a single democrat in office or running for office who is not pro red flag laws.literally every dem believes the 2nd amendment does not refer to an individual right to keep and bear arms. you are anti gun and foreign
>>65030019fuck off thirdie
>>65030008>They actually tried to make a legal definition for "black" but nobody could agree on itI mean, it's an irrational concept at heart.What are they going to do, set a pantone contrast level or fucking something?What's the legal basis for that specific number being the line?Every klansmen in existence fails that simple question and has to attack, intimidate, distract, deny or run when faced with it.>Haplogroups?Do people have any idea how many "black" people have celtic/gallic haplogroups because massa craved that sweet jungle pussy that couldn't say no?There's so few "pure blood" africans in slave-descendent populations that they're likely to be bred out in a generation or two, no african-americans are exclusively fucking partners of the exact same ethnically-descended lineage so as to ensure pure Yoruba/Igbo/Kongo progeny.A vanishingly rare minority of african-americans will not have a male or female ancestor from Europe within a few generations, a majority already do.When Tyrone's lawyer enters a 23&me test into evidence that shows Tyrone is fucking irish, how does the law deal with that?
>>65030102>Do people have any idea how many "black" people have celtic/gallic haplogroups because massa craved that sweet jungle pussy that couldn't say no?That was actually one of the reasons why christians became abolitionists.Some thought that having slaves who couldn't fight back, turned men into rapists. Which was probably true.Others thought that it would tempt loyal husbands into being adulterers, which was probably less true.Either way, both saw slavery as tempting men into sin and pushed abolitionism without considering the plight of the slaves much at all.Or that's what they told the southerners maybe, I dunno. I wasn't there.
>>65029632>t. Too chickenshit to think about Vogelfrei as a judicial punishment
>>65029365Nigger if you can't remove the totalitarian third world shitholers, that are turning your country into a totalitarian third world shithole, without Lolberts getting their collective panties in a twist and running to the aid of the commies that hate them because Juan, Mugumbe and Mohammed are going to resist getting sent back to their third world shitholes thereby requiring jackbooted retards to physically remove them how the hell is it NOT an inevitability that America become a third world shithole? Have you seen southern CA or Texas? It ain't the locals making the streets look like Tijuana and Delhi. This is what I mean by paralyzing your fellow citizens. You cannot remain reactive and passive against ideologies based on revolutions and action. It's pumping brakes that get weaker every generation while you huff your own farts and try to convince everyone else your inaction on their behalf was a virtue. Unless you're going to invent a time machine and kill your ancestors the rot is already here. Now you have to roll up your sleeves and do the shitty work of fixing it, pining for a lost era you've only ever read about is a fool's errand
>>65029299>principled losersNTA but being principled and not wanting to be a massive, throbbing hypocrite is a bad thing now?
>>65017549>Chicago proves you wrongNothing proves me wrong. The areas of the United States with the most guns per capita in civilian hands have the least violent crime, and this stat is actually true for every country.Blacks commit massively more crime, but the statistics show if you have one hundred blacks and they're all armed, and one hundred blacks and only ten armed, you actually get more violent crime in a ten year period in the second group.Both groups will statistically have more crime than white groups, but the armed white group has less violent crime than the unarmed white group, etc etc ad Infinitum. Take any country on the planet, and plot out its regions by percent gun ownership by capita, and the highest armed areas are less violently criminal.Violent crime increases when the means of violence are concentrated.
>>65014897Uhhhh cops?atf?politicians? They're gonna have their carve outs.
>>65016841Based king
>>65031020Stop replying to your own posts, nigger faggot.
>>65014893Send them back to Africa.Also, property cannot own property.
>>65030875Yes unironically If law lead to this situation then of what value was the law?
>>65014893I think we just bring back slavery.
>>65028345California and other kiked states want to ban all guns outright, but they cannot due to the Constitution and its enforcement. The second amendment is actually enforced to some degree so it means something, it and the other important amendments are likely the only reason we're not a complete totalitarian hellscape by now.
>>65029299>You argue from a position where your enemies are beholden to laws and rules you can't enforce and they have no reason or motivation to follow. So therefore we must become arbitrary with rights? Non sequitur.>Blames illegals for authoritarianism How can illegals be the reason for authoritarianism when it's the based and white GOP sending feds and the armed forces to American cities?
>>65031236man, it's crazy I can remember when I used to think like that (the pic, not sending them back to Africa).So fucking naive. But I don't think it's fair to send them back to Africa. Quite frankly Africans don't deserve to have that thrust upon them.>>65030875Yes. Every system has been abused, cooped, and skinwalked by people who hate you, want to see you dead, and your children raped, and they think it's funny.They have no principles, and value yours only so far as they can be weaponized against you.>>65031377>nooo you can't enforce laws that's authoritarianism! You have to submit to a system in which laws do not apply to my side, only yours!No thanks.
>>65029303> he thinks voting works > he thinks immigration is being allowed by the Dems only
>>65031382>>nooo you can't enforce laws that's authoritarianism! You have to submit to a system in which laws do not apply to my side, only yours!Who are you quoting? Because that's not what I said.
>>65031449You.>That's not what I saidYes it is.
>>65014893Founding fathers were very clear on this: Women and niggers aren't people (applies to all minorities) when it comes to rights.I'm not sure how this is the least bit confusing for you.
>>65014912Ur a faggot, no one cares.We both know that light skinned people made the western world and dark skinned people have done nothing but tear it down.Is that unfortunate and offensive? Sure. Doesn't make it any less true though.
>>65031457> tear it down while having no real powerSure bud
>>65029239I do find it strange how none of the people unquestioningly supporting that kind of this never seem to understand that the precedent being set could fuck them over hard the second the party they support isn't in power anymore.
>>65031473It makes sense when you realize that these people don't want to live in a democracy. They want authoritarianism. The only fact they hate is that from their POV, the wrong authority is kneeling on their necks. That's why they can unironically say and think he most contradictory shit, because the starting frame is a tribalistic one where some imagined messiah figure will soon kill all the turdies and emancipate them from communist homotrannies, then they can live in perfect utopia for all time because surely *their authority* won't stomp on rights. So it's basically a cope, a fantastical and utopistic worldview that is meant to soothe, but only ends up making the guy even angrier because everything becomes proof of collapse and wrong authority being in charge. Interest rates rising? Fucking jews. Crime in the cities? Fucking niggers. Hometown slowly dying? Fucking ungodly leftists. Politics a shitshow? Wish we had a strong leader who puts the opposition in their place. So when you adopt the frame that they're right, holy, and righteousness and everyone else is evil, it makes sense.
>>65014897The writers of the Bill of Rights only intended them to apply to white men
>>65016841The trannies and lefties you're simping for will happily put you up against the wall, but I guess you can say "rights for all!" as the bullets enter you
>>65029768>I keep the opinion of a neet fatso on 4chan in high regards[sic].This except unironically
>>65031377>How can illegals be the reason for authoritarianismthey're the ones voting for gun control>sending feds and the armed forces to American cities?deporting criminal invaders isn't authoritarian and does not impede on any human's rights like gun control does
>>65031449that's literally what you said>>65031473>>65031511how would deporting criminal invaders be used against me? how is the precedent of sending criminal invaders home, bad?
>>65014906>their 'god' wont help them win physical gameshows You can see all the butthurt as anons realize they have been following the wrong Lord all along and have been bowing to false prophets.
>>65032422>they're the ones voting for gun controlIf they're illegal, they don't have a vote.
>>65032533Anon, arguing with a republicuck is a waste of time. He'll vote for the people taking his guns away and still blame the dems.
>>65032533Retarded>>65032543Coping
>>65032533>>65032543california and new york explicitly have laws that allow illegal aliens to vote. this isn't even a >muh voter fraudwhich they 100% are doing. California and New York explicitly allow illegal aliens to vote. hell, in minnisota the one fag won his mayoral race because he made the race about somali clan politics, faggot > He'll vote for the people taking his guns away and still blame the dems.the dems are the only ones trying to take guns. that's like their number 2 issue after open borders. literally every major gun control law in US history was done by a dem legislative majority
>>65032533Theyre not just illegals, theyre illegals committing identity fraud. You need a SSN to get benefits.
>>65032567>california and new york explicitly have laws that allow illegal aliens to vote
>>65032590Thanks for proving him right
>>65032567>the dems are the only ones trying to take guns.lmao, are you 12 or just retarded?
>>65014893Iq tests to determine number of rights you receive.
>>65032591>oh noes my school board elections!
>>65032593Show us a Republican backed grab from the last 5 years
>>65032599Retard the school board is just part of that and it means illegals are voting to raise your local taxes.
>>65031377They have kids anon, they raise those kids anon. Those kids vote for the values their parents instill in them. Are you dumb? We no longer even weakly suggest immigrants assimilate. They come here and establish racial communities of the same people from the same places they left. Their culture and values do not become American and half the politicians in this country view any attempts to demand Ghuptaa and Juan put in the effort to live here as racist. Hell we can't even make english the official language because of faggot lolberts who view that as authoritarian because a whole state worth of illegals are already here and don't speak it.
>>65032601>Safer Communities Act (2022) (Rep backed)>S.4 by Governor Phil Scott>S.209 ">S.230 "Sadly you limited me to just the past 5 years, or I would've had a field day with the various anti 2A laws passed under Rep stooges. >>65032605>calls other retard>doesn't even remotely understand how voting works Pottery
>>65032649Retard
>>65032651I accept your defeat.
>>65032569>Theyre not just illegals, theyre illegals committing identity fraud. You need a SSN to get benefits.That doesn't give you a vote, at best it lets you steal someone else's.That's not an undetectable crime, someone is going to go to vote and find they already did, investigations ensue.There's a tiny number of cases of voting fraud in the US and it's nearly always republicans who do it because they're told day in and day out by idiots like you that democrats are doing it, so they think they have to too and get busted because it doesn't actually work.
>>65032654You lost long before bub
>>65032664Bullshit talking points but nice try kid. If you can scam benefits you can vote. Dems hate scrubbing voter lists because it hurts their illegal scammers.
>>65032670>Bullshit talking pointsIn other words, you don't have a counterargument. Stay in school, kid.
>>65032674Better luck next time with your nonsense.
>>65032678Are you talking to yourself?
>>65032684No Im talking to a retard who said the same shit years ago while not understanding identity fraud
>>65032686So you're talking to yourself. Got it.
>>65032689Good luck with your English lessons.
>>65032690You do realize you're speaking my language?
>>65032693You going to just keep seething til the bump limit or are you done?
>>65032699I'm asking you that, you constantly run away from arguments you start, have a meltdown and now are acting like a woman, trying desperately to have the last word in the conversation.
>>65032706So seething til the bump limit gotcha.
>>65032708Yeah, it's what you're doing. Once you have calmed down you'll feel better.
>>65031511>live in a democracy >where the mob rules and has the authority >just replace the Mob with government reliant low iq peoples with little regard for the founding stock values >the founding stock just wanted a constitutional republic except for yankees/puritans/and some sections of the cavalier culturesGet a load of this retard. But yes, stripping the rights from these people will absolutely be used as ammo against good people eventually. But, there's no political solutions on either side.
>>65032569that too>>65032590thanks for proving me right, faggot>>65032593literally every gun law in US history was done by a dem legislative majority, faggot. you are a bad faith tranny liar
>>65032601this>>65032599municipal government too, retard. you literally proved illegals vote>>65032649>>Safer Communities Act (2022) (Rep backed)an act that did nothing and was pretty much on party lines with only a handful of republicans voting for it and all the dems>>S.4 by Governor Phil Scotttop kek, your only example is banning drug dealers who were convicted when underaged?>S.209 "S.209 - Protecting Minors from Medical Malpractice Act of 2025banning dems from castrating kids is gun control?>s.230Unborn Child Support Actbanning baby murder is gun control?damn, you open borders anti gun fags got nothingDems are evil and want to ban guns. all leftists want open borders, gun confiscation and the slavery and genocide of white people
>>65032664>That doesn't give you a vote,yes it doesalso idk about other blue states, but in NJ if you know someone's name and address you can go and vote as them and the only thing stopping you is if the old lady working the polls knows either you or the person you are claiming to be.
>>65032779When I moved across states in 2020 my name actually was still on the roster in my home town even though I voted at my current poll location. If you know who isnt going to show up and pick from that list a name no one knows you can easily bullshit your way to a ballot box.
>>65014906this is the average pentecostal church in the south
>>65030113It was probably economics. Every black slave was a job not given to white workers. Because of this, you didn't see a middle class form with a massive demand for mid-tier goods. No massive demand means no need for factories and so Northern Investors couldn't just set up factories and make bank like they did in the North. As I understand it, the South was selling cotton Bales, not Bolts of Cloth or Spools of Thread but Bales of Loose Cotton.
>>65031511>first they kicked out the illegals and I said nothing because I wasn't illegal>then they kicked out the shitskins and I said nothing because I was white>then they exterminated all the jews and I laughed my ass off because I wasn't jewish>then they kicked out all the libtards and commies and I lived happily ever after because they stopped right there having accomplished their stated political goalsFTFYBy your logic no legal framework can ever be implemented because it might one day provide a template for legislation to be used against you. Meanwhile your opposition does everything it can to get and maintain political power and crush your lolbert ass.
>>65032959Black slaves actually had a right to private property in most states, just read Southside View of Slavery by Neremiah Adams who was a Unitarian Abolitionist(IE massive fucking libtard of the time). Slaves were in some cases more affluent than the wops who were being imported to places like NYC at the time. It could have been entirely cold economic calculus but don't discount old regional rivalries and then current political rivalries as factors.
>>65032985if you are slave you can always be returned to slavery and you can't be affluent without capital
>>65T015198Only whites can be American and only a specific kind of white at that. Without the demographics the Constitution cannot exist and will be repealed or ignored.
>>65033055>Slavery isn't some magical state of being its a legal status which like any other variesthat's not how the fugitive slave act worked
>>65032428There isn't any precedent. The logic is based on learned helplessness and demoralization, the cope is claiming you aren't a passive subject or defeated but instead "principled". The whole argument is that the govt is 100% corrupt and evil to the core but that it must wait for laws with weak semi-related outcomes and only then will it casually toss aside all established laws and precedent to weaponize the lolbert's fever dream against the population and destroy itself domestically and internationally for the memes.
Tf is going on in this thread and why are jannies not doing their job?
>>65033097This entire thread is by definition off topic. Its allowed to stay up because someone here is preaching politics that are kosher.
>>65033105I'm sure its been reported as off topic multiple times and yet here it remains, absolute trash
>>65033097>>65033105>>65033120the one janny only hangs out in /meg/ and the other janny is polish or german or some other type of eastern yuropoor and he hangs out in the war tourist threads and only deletes posts that personally upset him in war tourist threads. there arent any American gun owner jannies also this thread is vaguely lefty so the janny will leave it up until it's on page 9 and over the bump limit like he did with all of those ice seethe threads
>>65033126When sharty took down 4chan and doxxed the mods it was revealed that /k/ was the only board beside /pol/ to have .gov and with israeli IP addresses as jannies. It was clear whenever a thread about the guns recovered in the recent ukr and gaza war were immediately purged, but blatant idf trolling threads not even remotely trying to pass off as /k/ related are allowed to reach bump limit before being deleted. And for any janny reading this, this is in no way me complaining about the moderation on 4chan. I'm just stating the current state of the website, and it's not a violation of any rule, but I know it won't matter and I'll catch a 3 day ban.
>>65032967>he thinks authoritarianism stops in his exact favorite utopistic endpoint where no bad people exist and everyone lives in perfect harmonyYou need to be 18 to post here, my man
>>65033210You just proved his point lolbert.
>>65033212And you just proved his.
>>65033220What point? All laws bad? Thanks anarchist we dont care.
>>65033224Anon, how would you feel if you had skipped breakfast this morning?
>>65033229But anon, what if some laws werent le bad?
>>65033234The only one who brought forth the "all laws are bad" strawman here is you. Now, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
The SCOTUS is about to completely destroy US sovereignty and the Government's legitimacy to status signal to a bunch of liberal boomer females.These stupid little arguments over who gets what "constitutionally protected" rights doesn't really matter anymore when they're just going to give the entire planet citizenship by proxy.I hope shitlibs in their walled gardens enjoy getting replaced by wealthy foreigners, its what they voted for.
>>65033212You motherfuckers are completely unable to imagine counterfactuals and visualize credible risk. That means you have a still-developing prefrontal cortex, and that means you're underage b&.
>>65033242>>65033248>LAWS LE BAD!!!Dude weed lmao
>>65033252It's kinda funny how you like to start random arguments with people online, get your ass handed to you, and to save face you always pull shit out of mouth that nobody but you ever said. >>hey, the sky is is on fire!>no that's not true, it's just a sunset.>>WHAAAAAT? YOU'RE SAYING THE SUN DOESN'T EXIST?!?!?! LMAOOOO YOU'RE RETARDED!Like, what do you get out of this? Everyone who enters this thread is just going to laugh at you. Is this your only chance to experience human interactions since you're a NEET with no friends? Go out and socialize.
>>65033266Calm down youre losing not just the argument here but your temper
>>65033270
>>65033272Are you ready to tell us what level of laws are okay or will you continue the lolbert meltie?
>>65033276You're not nearly as clever as you think you are.
>>65033282So thats a no?
>>65033276Anon, I'm not the one you were arguing with. No society can function without laws. What is the correct balance between freedom and being cattle? Nobody knows. In regards to the topic of this shitty thread that should've been moved to /pol/ 270 post ago, the moment you give/earn a right in a country, you give it to everyone. If you're not a legal citizen you do not have the same envelope of right as a full citizen, but you still have human rights. The only people who could argue against this are terminally online retards who have never had an interaction with anyone in the last 20 years. Or edgy kids.
How difficult would it be to implement a bounty system for illegals and their children? It would be fucking sweet to get paid big bucks to kill illegals that trespass on your property, or to report their children to authorities and get a fat payout. But as to your question:>Rights for all or privileges for none.>What'll it be?If you or your children or your children's children are illegal, then you should all be WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE.
>>65032959>It was probably economicsNo doubt but Southern Christian Abolitionists had a public platform that slavery was bad for good christian slave-owners because it corrupted their morals and turned them into sinful rapists and adulterers.This particularly viewpoint didn't concern itself with the wellbeing of slaves at all.There was a separate Northern Christian Abolitionist platform that spoke about the suffering experienced by slaves.
>>65033285Define "human rights"
>>65033286This is you btw.
>>65033286Can we deport everyone like you instead
Only people with a stake in society should be allowed to own guns. Citizens who own property, have a consistent job, pay taxes, and follow the laws. There should be a physical fitness test as well.
>>65033295https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Human+Rights
>>65033286>It would be fucking sweet to get paid big bucks to killSounds like a red flag to me.
>>65033300Exactly. We should immediately abolish the Second Amendment as it's a cesspool of libtard ideas.
>>65033302We disarm criminals, the 2A is not a human right.
>>65033299fag
The "legals" need to go too.The government is surrendering the levers of power to foreigners that do not respect your culture or constitution.And once the real Americans are minority or even less than half they'll simply get rid of the whole thing.
>>65033311Since when did the 2A enshrine convicted felons? Anon, you're screeching about an imaginary scenario that you created yourself. Or worse, you're so fucking retarded that you don't understand the contex of the question posed in the OP. The chances are extremely slim, but please for the love of our genetic pool, never reproduce.
>>65033325This is /k/, we are talking 2A you sperg.
>>65033319The real Americans are already a minority because your definition of a real American doesn't include even half of the white population.
>>65033325I have never seen someone argue in such bad faith.Do you happen to be an Indian perchance?
>>65033332Thats how bad things are
>>65033311Correct, it's a constitutionally protected right for all Americans whether you like it or not, or whether you consider Tyrone American enough.
>>65033343Not for felons unlike other rights.
>>65033328Anon, please stop. If you're THAT dumb at least use some fucking AI chatbot to help you. If OP asks "Rights for all or privileges for none." without specifying what that entails, then it's obvious that you should assume the normal legal framework still applies. So illegals, felons, etc of course wouldn't be covered under the 2A. >>65033334No I'm not. Are you? I denounce Vishnu and the Talmud. Can you do the same?
>>65033341No, it just shows how fucked your mentality is. Fantasizing about killing half of the whites because they vote the way you don't like, fantasizing the state murdering other people because they don't look right to you, that's serious shit for your own well-being my man. It's only gonna lead to your own personal ruin. Seek Jesus my man.
>>65033346>Im only pretending to be retarded!Ok
>>65033348Seek mental help what the fuck anon
>>65033349See? Once again you run away from an argument because you're too dumb to come up with a counterargument, and too prideful to admit you're wrong and a fucking retard. Now1) Answer the breakfast question2) Denounce Vishnu3) Denounce the Talmud
Someond got lost on their way to reddit.
>>65033355You're not beating the underage b& and retard allegations with that level of reading comprehension.
>>65033348>It's only gonna lead to your own personal ruinHe's already ruined. Only the most fucked up of fat neet losers talk like that. He's likely going to be on an episode of my 600lbs life in the near future.
Im too employed for these gossip girls to speculate on my private life but I know Ive gotten them frothing.
>ask to denounce vishnu and talmud>immediately runs awaylel
>>65033391Nobody owes you anything little indian queer
>>65033394Sure thing Moshe
>DA JOOS WANT ONLY WHITES TO OWN GUNSOooh a brown schizo!
>>65033286Yeah can we get rid of all the soon-to-be school shooters like this guy
>>65033296LOL>>65033299Seethe more, nigger. >>65033306Why even bother having a country if you can't do what you need to do to preserve it? If there are no consequences from the populace for breaking the fucking law, and if law enforcement just sits on their hands and lets it happen, then the situation will only get worse until it gets better. And it will only get better if illegals and criminals are terrified of trying to start a life here in the first place. You want to have policies that make Americans look insane, and you would have to be mentally ill to want to break into the country illegally with a bounty system like this in place.
>>65033391It's always like this. Look at how he is already having a meltdown over being found out.
>>65033409I dont think hes a looney troon
>>65014893>Rights for all or privileges for none.Right for all. The constitution is clear.
>>65014906lmao what the fuck
>>65033409>>65033306>>65033299>>65033296you aren't American
