How the fuck do you stop the Houthi? I'm sick of them camping out in the mountains and periodically crashing my portfolio. What weapons does it take?
Hear me out
>>65019315Drone mothership full of flying IEDs vs camel jockey armada
>>65019315Have the Saudi's and the UAE-backed guys tag team them and hold the coastal areas
>>65019315>I'm sick of them camping out in the mountains and periodically crashing my portfolioNo, Mustafa, the Houthi are not going to save you.
>>65019315https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
>>65019315>How the fuck do you stop the Houthi?Do you feel in charge Mr. Trump?
>>65019325They already tried that and it was a disaster.
Why is this Off-Topic OP allowed on this board /k/ ?
>>65019367>>65019379The US is bombing Iran with total impunity. Irans former leader had been reduced to a carboard cutout and you're bragging that the Houthi fired a missile at Israel?
>>65019389I'm talking about the ability of a terrorist group to periodically harass shipping in the Red Sea and how there doesn't seem to be a way to conclusively address the problem.
>>65019389... So trade isn't hit by the Houthis, then?
>>65019315well you blow up Iran because they supply the Houthis
>>65019399Trade to the US? No. The United States of America is, quite famously, not on the red sea-med trade rout.
>>65019402This man gets it.
>>65019407You are so stuck up your own asshole, I'm not sure how you could see your screen to solve the captcha.
>>65019315Fucking do it. Please give us an international coalition on silver platter, please.
>>65019413Not an argument.
>>65019315Take the suez
>>65019402You'd think it would work but they've also spent years working on domestic arms production with admittedly mixed results. The problem is that all it takes is one shitty one-way attack drone to fly in the area and shipping is crippled until insurers get back on board.>Scott Modell, chief executive officer of Rapidan Energy and a former CIA officer, said: “the unthinkables are now thinkable.” He said: “We are one successful Iranian attack on a major oil asset away from $150 oil. Or, if the Houthis [Yemen-based, Iran-backed militia group] decide to get in the fight and hit Yanbu on the Saudi Red Sea coast, or if Hormuz simply stays clogged for the next few weeks, we are heading to $150 oil.”MAKE IT STOP
>>65019432The price of solving this problem forever is $150 a barrel for a while. Its a price worth paying.
>>65019389>The US is bombing Iran with total impunity. Irans former leader had been reduced to a carboard cutout and you're bragging that the Houthi fired a missile at Israel?I am Murray.
>>65019320Ponder the aroma
>>65019437>solving this problem foreverIs that what's happening?
All this because Israel/Sunni want to genocide the Shia'sand somehow we need to be involved in this for the last 40 years
>>65019432>MAKE IT STOPTHE FIRE(oil price) RISES
>>65019447>Is that what's happening?Neither of us know the future. I am merely presenting the calculation.
>>65019315where were you when you realized the houthi are doing nothing?
>>65019453Is that the dead one or a new one? Also I thought the new one is one-legged and gay.
>>65019456They fired some missiles into Southern Israel today. If they attempt to disrupt the Red Sea again, you're probably looking at an even bigger coalition than Desert Storm against Iran and its proxies.
>>65019483>probably looking at an even bigger coalitionMay we see it?
>>65019386
>>65019398There is and the US is doing it. It's called actually going after the country supplying ths terrorist groups with money and weapons.
>>65019315>>65019398It's extremely difficult. The issue isn't that no ships can pass, Iran/Houthis just have to present a credible risk some ships could get hit and most of the reputable carriers won't risk their ships and crews.
>>65019315nuke them
I would say bomb them harder but isn't it already an uninhabitable wartorn wasteland?>>65019318UnIronically this guy might be right.
>>65019526>they totally hit it!>proof? We don't have that, but trust me they did!
>>65019496No, because the Houthis (to my knowledge) haven't tried to shut down the Red Sea again in coordination with Iran's efforts in the Strait of Hormuz.
>>65019483Did you miss the last Red Sea crisis?
>>65019315>How the fuck do you stop the Houthi?Stop licking Israel's boots, really.
>>65019447The best case for this war I can argue in good faith is: Iran is the biggest threat to stability in the ME, the biggest state sponsor of terrorism, and a junior partner in the league of U.S. adversaries. Heading into 2026 the regime had never been weaker. Its network of proxies had been greatly reduced, particularly in Palestne, Lebanon and Syria, decades of economic mismanagement and sanctions had hobbled the economy, its air defenses were in shambles, and it has to violently repress nationwide roots. However, that situation was transitory, Iran could build up a conventional deterrent that would raise the costs of any military action. Negotiations were unproductive because Iran recognized its bad hand and was stalling for time. By contrast, the U.S., has never been less reliant on ME energy flows, and Russia and China were not prepared to intervene on its behalf.Essentially, there was never going to be a better time to use the military to change Iran's behavior. Trump, high off his success in Venezuela, rolled the dice.
>>65019318This. Why not exterminate the population that’s the problem?
>>65019558Is it currently ongoing?
>>65019553>decommissioned for 2 yearsIs this what thirdies call "post-deployment maintainence."
>65019578>israel s the biggest threat to stability in the ME and the world FTFY
>>65019578The best time would have been 2001. I still don't understand why we invaded Iraq instead. A typo and everyone ran with it?
>>65019605Dubya wasn’t happy Saddam tried to kill Bish Sr.
>>65019605US was too sensitive to foreign oil back then.
>>65019578>Negotiations were unproductive because Iran recognized its bad hand and was stalling for time.They were unproductive because the Israelis wanted to escalate. Iran agreed to JCPoA level nuclear restrictions and the Israelis added missile limitations just afterward as a poison pill. This happened like a month ago and it's already been memory holed I guess.
>>65019635Iran was never hitting the total ban on enrichment which was the admins red line. Any deal that countenanced any enrichment in Iran would have needed to cap their missiles otherwise Iran would just continue in its porcupine strategy.
>>650196053rd largest military right on the doorstep of our greatest ally. Had to be dealt with. >>65019641>the powers that be set terms to make war inevitable We know.
>>65019635>JCPoAThe more the pro-Iran camp pushes the old deal, the more suspicious I grow of , not that I fan in the first place.
>>65019647We're both arguing for the same thing. This is a preventive war launched at time reasonably calculated to have the highest odds of success. The negotiations were just to see if the U.S. could get what it wanted without using force.
>>65019648I don't see anyone pushing it. I only see it get mentioned as a highly visible off ramp for this crisis the Trump administration didn't take for whatever reason.
>>65019648>>65019655The way I've seen it explained is that Trump didn't want to give Iran any concessions whatsoever, which was supposed to be what they got in exchange for keeping their nuclear program strictly for civilian use. And frankly why the fuck should anyone trust the Iranians to keep their end of the deal? Now it did actually affect their program in the sense that the inspections kept them from progressing towards a bomb as fast as they could, but the IAEA was already raising a stink that they weren't showing any signs of stopping.
>>65019655Sounds like there were people pushing it by your account.
>>65019653This is probably how Vlad thought about Ukraine
>>65019315you don't. the greater israel state of mutts already lost to houthi chads and ran away.
>>65019669why doesn't trump just play 97 dimensional chess and tell China and Russia that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons they will supply W76 to Ukraine and Taiwan and Vietnam
>>65019669>why the fuck should anyone trust the Iranians to keep their end of the deal?That's what the IAEA auditors were for, like every other non proliferation agreement. They only enriched past thresholds after Trump withdrew from the agreement in 2018. And why wouldn't they? The sanctions relief they were after disappeared. >>65019679Whatever your thoughts are you aren't articulating them very well. The agreement has been dead for 8 years, the point is Trump could have taken a new path similar to those terms and called it a W instead of dealing with whatever this current thing is, an observation that has been noted by many.
>>65019743>Trump could have taken a new path similar to those terms and called it a WAnd I'm saying this looks like it was a bad idea.
>>65019743Because the terms of that deal were retarded. Iran is not a normal country. The sanctions relief was a path for Iran to build a conventional deterrent via drones, missiles, and proxies to guard its final sprint to a nuke. Then at best you'd have another North Korea, in the middle east, and at worst a group of death cult clerics who start a nuclear war.
>>65019702Sure, but that's not super helpful analysis, unless your point is to never use force because it's inherently too unpredictable.
>>65019753Worse than the ongoing scenario? I dont know, if nothing else the so called inevitable Iran war could have happened under a more competent administration, or at least delayed the operation until after midterms and the strategic reserves were refilled.
>>65019318His pedos got butchered fighting half starved partisans with no training and half a dozen rounds each.
>>65019812but they had fun and that's what war is all about
>>65019790Sure, Iran is crippled and even more isolated than before.
>>65019790We're four weeks in. If this is a transient event that actually alters Iran's behavior it's absolutely worth it.
>>65019783Unpredictable is one thing, but proper planning makes for another thing entirely. I was just musing how both of these SMOs have felt more like gambling than sound military strategy.
>>65019315Nuke it and be done with it>but the PRNo fucks given
>>65019955>US is reduced to 'nook nook' postingembarrassing
>>65019945because they exhaust relevant military targets in the first day or twoThen the rest of the time they are just killing random people, or equipment that doesn't even work anymore
>>65019974If Putin wasn't such a cock sucking faggot and used nuked on Kiev he could have avoided the last 4 years.
>>65019886Well, one key difference is the U.S. has aie superiority over a country three times the size of Ukraine in a couple of days. Russia is four years in.
>>65019945It changed plenty.
>>65019992one key similarity is that neither has achieved their objectives
>Yet another middle eastern debacle, but this time it's even worseHoly fuck bros why the fuck are our politicians so stupid. >>65019790I forgot about the midterms. I hope it's a irreversible bloodbath for the Republican party.
>>65019977>because they exhaust their weapons within the first day or two then run away and then trump says they won*very trumpian
>>65019315If the gloves came off it'd be really easy to simply starve the Houthis out because they import 90% of their food and are always months from famine. Just don't let any food in and those khat chewing goat fucking piratical Shia dogs would be on the edge of starvation
>>65019315Genocide.
>>65020040Sadly we're to pansy ass to ever even consider this as an option
>>65019848The fact that we're only a month in and despite Iran losing two heads of state and having the majority of its military capabilities destroyed while the US has suffered 28 aircraft losses including drones, damage to regional bases, and less than 400 soldiers killed and wounded, Iran is trying to claim that the war is already a completely failure for the USA makes me think Iran knows its current strategy won't work for long as the US and Israel can whittle down their drone and missile stockpiles with relative impunity.
>>65020029Did they run away? I know the Basij and IRGC are hiding and some have deserted since they stopped getting paid, but did US forces runaway?
>>65020069Their efforts to pressure the US diplomatically have also backfired.
>>65020069when will these Iranian drone and missile stockpiles be depleted?
Sure feels good owning oil stocks over the weekend, doesn't it.
If Iran is so based why haven't they used WMD's on Israel?
>>65020025Depending on the level of fiasco we are looking at here we could see an Obama level Democrat sweep that let's them try an AWB again. Blowing all your political capital on a sand war will necessarily affect domestic issues like gun rights.
>yet another glorified TDS seethe threadI have severe raider/glowie/faggot fatigue>>65020069because its all that /pol/ and reddit can do
>>65020106Unknown but the problem is that the longer to conflict continues the longer the US and Israel have to gather intel that can point to the location of Iran's stockpiles, transports, launchers, and, in the case of drones, clandestine production facilities. While this is happening the US is also continuing to target Iran's key military and government personnel, and begin operations against lower priority military targets to further erode the Iranian government's ability to maintain itself. And perhaps worst of all, it gives time for the USA to look at its admittedly half-assed and poorly thought out strategy for this conflict and make adjustments.
>>65019315Occupy the coasts. Why isn't this being done yet?
>>65020339They're not sure that will be conducive
>>65019974>Honestly thinking I'm speaking as a US strategists Retard. I'm speaking as someone that's tired of all this retardation that goes on there. Always some dumb ass conflict happening because your ancestors' goat was fucked by some other retard that happened over 2 centuries ago.
>>65020339So you are committed to a land invasion of both Iran and Yemen?Got about 140 million people between the two countriesAnd for what purpose is all this happening?
>>65020375It's the most important strait in the world. You don't have to conquer the entire country
>>65020404Why is it our job to do this? It seems to be expensive and it seems also that if he had done nothing we could probably just wait for whatever middle east chimpout was happening like everyone else in the world
>>65019506>It's called actually going after the country supplying ths terrorist groups with money and weapons.Admittedly now Iran is the proxy for Russia and China's toys
On a scale of 1-10 how fucked are we? 1 being invasion of Panama and 10 being Vietnam.
>>65020434Solid 5 so far but with only a little bit of doubling down on mistakes it could develop into a 10. Luckily our leadership would never.
>>65020479it will never become as bad as vietnam
>>65020485Okay, an optimist. Maybe a 9.
>>65020434Realistically? Like a 4. Modern media is just a whole different beast to even the Vietnam media. That matters in perception and if you purely focus on that lens then maybe like a 6.5
>>65020339Americans and joos need to make sure the entire coast is down and out so that helicopters can actually go and land safely on various islands, kharg being the biggest but probably one of the later projects planned. My first bet is Abu Musa and Tunbs so we can give the UAE some gibs and a good first start. Also trump pushed back negotiations to April 6 so that would be the make or break date for a diplomatic resolution compared to boots on the ground. American conventional troops will probably touch ground on various strait islands as mentioned before and SOF will rumble on the actual mainland with hijinks.
>>65019315A canal built in Yemen would help.>>65019318That also would help.
>>65019315>"Ah, Xenophon, I am glad you could spend some time with us.">"I was not doing anything.">"We have a bit of a problem in Afghanistan. Despite overwhelming military superiority, we are losing."> "Afghanistan?">"It is a mountainous land east of your journey through Asia, the people there somewhat resemble the Kurds.">"Ouch! Kurds! Tough fighters, never give up. They never accept that they are beaten. Lots of little ambushes, right? Like that?">"Right. Exactly like that.">"I regret that I had to kill so many brave men. Station your most valiant men, your best equipped men, and your most able generals in the rearguard, and get out as swiftly as possible, as I and my men did.">"Unfortunately, if we do that, they are likely to raid us again.">"They raided you before! Well then, kill enough of them that they do not do it again. One in ten might suffice, then get out, though if they are anything like the Kurds, you might have to go back in and double up.">"Umm, it might be hard to find the right men to kill.">"Kill the women and children. The brave men will appear soon enough. Kill the brave, and the rest do not matter. Then get out.">"The women and children?">"Spare some of the pretty ones, of course, to please the troops.">"Our allies might find this tactic disturbing.">"Did these Afghans raid you first?">"Some of them did. Others disapproved strongly.">"Evidently not strongly enough. You need tougher allies."
>muh Vietnam again So boring.
>>65019315US has lots of friends but they're shitty freeloaders and goodtime pals and the US knows it. Iran meanwhile only has one poverty ridden hairy little friend but holy crap is he a good friend, goes to war and die in millions for friendship. Its like a movie character plot.
>>65019454I don’t know the future but I know it’s retarded to think that a region we’ve bombed for decades will be cured of its problem with just one more bombing
>>65019315The Egyptians crushed the North Yemen monarchy with heavy use of chemical weapons to flush them out, and once the Saudi support dried up the Republicans won
>>65019992How is the US 'winning' when they are fighting for another country anyway?
>>65020870>US has lots of friends but they're shitty freeloadersCool it woth the anti-semitism bro
>>65019315The solution is shrimple: you nuke them. But so help me God, if they nuke before Iran completelly destroys Israel, i'm gonna do something a US citizen will regret.
>>65019315just carve out canals that cut through continents eksdeeit is that simple
>>65021056advocating for the murder of elected officials is a felony mr. glow glow
>>65019812You fucking dickhead, I'll have you know these men left behind grieving widdows and orphaned children!
>>65019437According to who? Retarded american boomers still assblasted that EYERANIANS kicked out their US puppet 50 years ago?
>>65019318This made my morning, kek
>>65019315>How the fuck do you stop the HouthiThe entire Yemeni population are khat addled double digit IQ primitives, whose antics last time measurably retarded man's conquest of the stars. If Israel was going to become a pariah state anyways, they could've done a blessing unto the nations by glassing the place out of being.
>>65020350But you are the ones instigating conflict every single time?
>>65021147>youDid I do thaaaat?
>>65019315They get all their money and weapons from Iran. Bomb Iran back to the stone age, no more weapons and money for the Houthi.
>>65019386>Why is this Off-Topic OP allowed on this board /k/ ?If you think it doesn't belong, report it.The fact that the first post is the warcrimes loser with the BCD should tell everyone what kind of thread it is anyway.
simply invade yemen and enforce a colonial regime (aka protectorate, or autonomous state, or legitimate government, whatever you wanna call a colony these days). apparently niggas the other side of the atlantic haven't figured it out yet or are too spooked by their black history month (as if it stopped them from bombing the middle east for two decades straight)
>>65019315Landmines on the coast?
>>65019407The problem with global trade is that even if you are not directly affected by a particular shitshow, you get to feel knockoff effects it has on your partners. And perhaps at some point you will find that you actually benefitted from what some of them have been doing.t. Europoor who thinks that Europe needs to step up its game in dealing with problems. In this case helping USA. Trump is long overdue eating a humble pie but nobody is going to take that away from him in good time.
>>65019985By getting shot in the back of his head or turned to ash?
>>65019780>Iran is not a normal country.Did they attack a country while in the middle of negotiations? Twice?
>>65020339Because then people start shooting at your troops and firing missiles into Saudi. This has been tried. Saudi Arabia ended up humiliated even during minor border incursions.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi-led_intervention_in_the_Yemeni_civil_war
I feel like I'm the only one who realises the answer is similar to how we stopped pirates. You put CWIS on the tankers.
>>65021495>everyone else is dumb but me :)
>>65021503It's the only way, though. We're heading for a cyberpunk distopia, where every company needs to protect their assets with military hardware. CWIS on every tanker is the solution to the Houthi problem.
>>65019508Time to fill more ships with expendable Indians and Filipinnos, if they become too costly to lose then there's Indonesians, Kenyans, and Myanmese.
>>65019526I'm not sure if you're aware but a ship has a lot of pipes and wiring in it as well as a lot of metal that fits together exactly and needs to. A fire can destroy all of these things requiring their complete and total replacement, and when repairing buckled and warped metal the damaged sections need to be removed and replaced rather than duct-taped like on the Admiral Kunnynestov. It wasn't five years ago that the US lost a helicopter carrier because of fire damage, the difference is that losing Ford would cost more prestige so its worth the cost to fix unlike the bumfuck Marine ship. The Ford also had its plumbing systems damaged, these systems were somewhat over-engineered so one small thing going wrong or breaking them ruins them until they can be fully replaced and fixed because you can't deploy 000s of people with no working sanitation without ensuring the spread of disease and potentially death.Also compare it to the Bongs who have two aircraft carriers, one of which is broken for the foreseeable future till they can scrape together the funds to fix it. But, that one aircraft carrier that works still gives them more aircraft carriers than Russia, just ignore they only have 12 surface ships to go with it.
>>65019315Pipelines to Israel.
>>65019318Shut the fuck up Robert.
>>65019315build more renewable and nuclear power so we stop having to give a shit about the fucking houthis
>>65022030How does that help with ships and trade needing to go through the straits?
>>65019318When you leave the world no other option, do you expect then to surrender? It's like they're asking for it.
At this point, I’m afraid that the Houthi thunderball isn’t stoppable with any realistic course of action.
>>65022041it's not a perfect plan I'll grant you
>>65019318How come every nation that atrocitymaxxes gets BTFOd? Nazi germany, Japan, Soviet union and now russia all lost or are in the process of losing their wars.
>>65021705It's not the crews or even the ships really, it's the insurance. No maritime insurer is going to cover ships going through a zone they might get sank by a missile in. So you either go full Russian shadow fleet and sail without insurance and risk billions of dollars, or you go around, costing millions.
>>65021723Honestly, I'm starting to think this has been the plan all along.>Israelis invade and demolish Gaza>joint US/Israel plan to redevelop the ruins of Gaza into a commercial port>Israel provokes Iran into closing the Strait of Hormuz>Israel provokes Yemen into closing the Bad Al-Mandab Strait>only safe way to get oil out of the Middle East is through Israel
>>65022058>legalize CIWS weapons on merchant ships>compel insurers to cover merchant ships that are equipped with CIWS
Drop 5,000 gaming laptops loaded up with gooner modded Skyrim into the mountains.
>>65022172Well the plan seems to be to cause so much blockage that other nations will be forced to respond even if they dont want to. It's clear that the US/Israel is trying to make Iran choke on closing the strait by continuing the war while also pretending like there is peace talks, creating conflicting signals to make Iran look schizophrenic. As bad as fuel prices are, the fertilizer issue is going to wreck havoc on the eastern hemisphere, and Iran trying to make deals with nations to cross is only making other nations pissed, as well as reports of Chinese ships getting turned-back at the strsit just giving confusion as to what Iran's position on the strait is.
>>65019318Israel would have probably recruited him had he not died "mysteriously" in French captivity. Just so they could have had a bigger chunk of arabless land in 1948. Don't think he was involved in killing jews, mostly partisans and random civilians.
>>65019315give them the elections they were promised?
>>65021472Do it again but with Americans and a force double the size and strength
>>65019407are you sure about that? and don't forget oil refining, of which US-wide industry is built exclusively to refine middle east oil.
>>65022056When you lose the war everyone will talk about your atrocities and even make plenty up to justify the war.When you win and take over you get to write the history book with you as the good guy and the enemy as the evil sadistic one and definetly you would not focus most of the story on the bad things you have done but you will go at length explaining why the enemy was evil.Also when you don't completely defeat an enemy or abandon the conflict without a clear resolution on either side we get to see the most interesting case as you get to see both sides EXTREMELY different narratives at play. Like if you go to south Korea war museums or north Korean war museums, totally different stories. If by some miracle to Norks won and had the chance to write the most generally accepted history of the war everyone would say America was atrocimaxxing in korea by their version. Just look today at the two opposing narratives that are being written in Iran, Ukraine, Gaza, etc... if one side of the conflict was able to completely win and impose its historical truth think how different the books would look depending on whom ends up winning '
>>65020253I have been waiting for an year for a market crash, when should I buy? Seems it only dropped a bit
>>65019386Just report to jannies like you always do kike.
>>65019578Check out the ChatGPT response. Fuck the bots are all over this thread.
>>65022605>exclusively refine middle east oil>Canada exists>Venezuela is now doing business with the U.S.>The U.S. harvests it's own oil on it's own soil.I don't have a reaction image for how much of an idiot you are.
>>65022605middle east oil is more sweet, US oil refineries are all built for extremely sour oil like whats in venezuela
>>65020253Brazilian oil companies stocks are skyrocketing. Feels good to be out of reach of all this Old World retardation.
>>65022741Forgot>us is one of the few nations that can refine Venezuelan sulfur crudeIts almost like there is a plan here.
>>65022056what do you think firebombing tokyo, nuking japan twice, firebombing civilian populations in germany, and the post-war german camps were?
>>65019315stop them? how do we help them?
So far they're just making themselves known as a factor, taking some shots at Israel. They'd presumably announce if they were going after shipping, they're just letting the US know that can happen any time if they do something truly nuts (invade or nuke Iran)
>>65022241The difference is that nobody is blaming Iran for it.
>>65023367They apparently are.
>>65022741*its
>>65019315usa can't do it that's for sure. Emperor has no clothes especially in The Drone Era.
>>65022246>Don't think he was involved in killing jewsSure about that?>Once Dirlewanger poisoned 57 Jews on his own initiative.[68] Acts committed by Dirlewanger include burning the genitals of women he abused with a petrol lighter, whipping them naked, and injecting strychnine into Jewish girls and then watching their death agonies in the officers' mess.[69]
>>65023399We can, most militaries could. But you aren't allowed to win anymore, because the cost is too high for the defeated o algo
>>65019578We could have just let Israel mow the lawn on the nuclear program occasionally while they collapse in a year from running out of water though. We stuck our dicks into this when they were in the middle of solving the problem themselves with their mismanagement.
>>65023367>The difference is that nobody is blaming Iran for it.You don't blame a neighbourhood dog for barking when you're trying to sleep. You complain to the owner to sort it out.
>>65023419So bullshit then? Don't get me wrong he was commanding tons of rapists and killers, some of them Russians so you know its bad. But all the crazy shit like shoving defensive grenades up some cunt's cunt are almost certainly bullshit. Though at least its physically possible unlike most of holohoax.I grantee he didn't give a shit about his men burning and raping so long as they died when he needed them to, but really some of this shit is bonkers and substantiated by the same jews who claimed the Nazis gassed jews on trains by filling the tunnels with gas after parking in them.
>>65021495>CWIS operated commercially by indian and flip deckhandsRIP air traffic
>>65019812Didn't they run out of ammo? Also in that particular instance almost all his men were captured soviets who had zero incentive to fight. When he had german convicts they tended to do better.
>>65022651Sorta, unless you have jews and their libtard pets running your media, entertainment, and academic institutions then they will shit on your own side and make up things about you while ignoring anything the enemy does unless said enemy was also right wing and white. I mean as an example how many instances of libtards and jews defending the Aztecs have you encountered, more than few if you read history texts.
>>65019315>What weapons does it take?cobalt bombs
You airdrop in 10,000 Marines into Yemen, taking it over, and build democracy. Building democracy is:>Modern, functional Port at some river head/delta area.>Modern, functional (preferably electric) railroad from that Port to important inland areas like cities or mines>Modern, functional electric power grid. Power plants go near the Port and grid wires can go above the train wires.>Modern, functional hospitals in each large city and provincial capital. Even if it's just a 10-bed ER with 1 doctor, you've successfully sold every woman on your mission and have now obtained a baseline 50% compliance with your mission.From there it's growing the network with more exportable goods, more trains, more doctors, 5G, schools, libraries etc. Your peacekeeping occupation friends (special forces commandos) can then wipe up the remaining bad guys each year, gradually training up a new domestic army and civil protection force. It's almost textbook now.Almost, because President Bush ignored all this advice when we rebuilt Iraq which is why Iraq uses Chinese trains now. Bush also ignored it in Afghanistan, who still does not have a full size railroad to Pakistan. Notice that Pakistan, Bangladesh and India all three separately made their countries work because the British gave them everything I listed for free. South Africa too, Apartheid RSA lasted an extra decade just because of the electric trains, and would still be around if they had waited another year for 9/11 to make racism cool again.President Biden tried and failed to do this with Port Biden in Gaza and Trump's incoming Iran Mission will fail because he won't do this. Iranians don't want to drive American cars and car ownership in of itself no longer sells America's mission as it did in Vietnam and Korea.
>>65024476To put it in simpler terms: America started losing wars when American healthcare got more expensive than Europe. America sold itself on being cheap and easy to live in, where everything was always available. This has not been the so for American healthcare for a long time, and it's why Iraqis sold us out last week when the Iraqi government formally announced that they would not harm Iranian forces should they invade. Not that Iran needs to because a quarter of Iraq is shia and over half the soldiers around Baghdad -ones that will report for duty anyway- are shias. Trump declared these soldiers terrorists last week and started bombing their offices in southern Iraq. But arabs can't be trusted and they, knowing we'd probably backstab them, aren't much affected by it. As soon as Tehran gives the orders these men will attack us, fuck us, and kick us out of Iraq. I trained many of them myself and Trump is now ordering my friends to go kill them.And then I wake up and TennCare added $300/year to my mom's bill to keep her PCP. $300 because Tenncare decides doctors for people now. $300 just to chose a doctor, on top of her existing insurance premiums. Cigna sent her a letter saying that due to reforms made by the Full Obamacare Repeal Act they will deny her insurance coverage because her pre-existing conditions make her uneconomical for the company to service. She's dependent on an oxygen machine to service, and got a 20% price adjustment this week because of the war. I can't explain or justify this to my kids, my NCOs, my privates or my dog. I sure as fuck cannot justify this to random Iraqi women coming into my office with sick babies. I now have to use my wife's Canadian citizenship to take a train up to Canada so mom can use her healthcare and continue living. It is a complete pain in the ass it is to take an oxygen tank onto an Amtrak train.tldr you fucking shoot the men and make girls cry just like high school. You aren't a bitch, are you?
>>65019389Congratulations on your victory sir. Now sail your powerful warship through the red sea or strait of Hormuz.
>>65019812Yes but they were all convicts anyway, so it was a win-win.
>>65019315It's the same answer as in Hormuz. You invade Yemen/Iran and occupy the shoreline surrounding the Bab-al-Mandab/Hormuz. No ground invasion = straits closed
>>65024476>muh trainsYou do realize that unlike America, Iran had a functioning domestic automobile industry which paid decent wages and provided for the semblance of a middle class that american trade deficits have offshored in exchange for temu trinkets.And they're an oil country. They're not some hydrocarbon vassal state. Leveraging that into petrochemicals and heavy industry should be on the top of the list, even if you want to build trains as that's the way you get money flowing into the country.
>>65024476America can't build those things anymore, not domestically, and certainly not internationallyDems want a certain thing, and won't budge on their demands, Republicans won't admit what they actually want, and so nothing ever happens
>>65022779Venezuelan oil production is tiny in the grand scheme of things.It would take at least a decade and investments of billions of Dollars to restore and expand all the decrepit old Venezuelan oil extraction infrastructure back to a state where it was actually capable of delivering crude in any amount even comparable to the amounts flowing out of the Persian gulf.
>>65026266>an oil countryWhich on its best day with zero embargo limits can produce 1/5 what the United States produces everyday, peasant
>>65026867>usa lostLost what?A contact lens?
>>65026836Your point? The key idea is that if you want longterm success you need to do it in a way that shows being America's friend is a viable option. Shutting down the industries they had and dictating them terms isn't gonna do that. You're gonna be back invading in 2049. It's being bombed to shit right now. The best and frankly only option they have to get money flowing into the country is by selling hydrocarbons. This is obviously a spectrum between >1. maximize oil income>2. Minimize domestic energy costsIf you wanted to create a prosperous Iran this is the slider you'd move up and down as needed.
>>65019389
>>65019605The fact that peak pax americana neocons chose against it should tell you something
>>65019315Multiple B83 airbursts followed by B61 deep penetrators
>>65026266>unlike America, Iran had a functioning domestic automobile industryI really don't know how to address posts like thisLast year the US built 10.5 million cars and Iran built 800,000Twenty years ago, the US built 13 million cars and Iran built 1.6 million (both industries peaked around this time)What fuckin' planet are you on
>>65019318Unironically this. Sweep the area and exterminate the population. Beating guerillas isn't hard when you have tens or hundreds of thousands of soldiers.
Leave?
>>65022246He was guarded by poles, it couldn't end up well for Dirlewanger.
>>65029803Stop being obtuse. The point is that they *HAVE* the industry domestically. We don't need to start one from scratch. Even if is all bombed to scrap the brainpower is still there.Step 1: oil exports = money flows into the countryStep 2: build industry with oil moneyStep 3: wannabe jihadis turn crankshafts on a lathe instead of yearning to kill Americans all dayAnd keep in mind they build 800k cars after being sanctioned to hell and back while america has literally every ace up it's sleeve. And we'd have to distinguish between american made cars, american made cars that are exportable and foreign made cars that Americans assemble (most of the time with bad quality jobs and horrible panel gaps)
>>65029803its the brown seeping into his braincase
>>65019379When did the Saudis and UAE backed group go on a ground offensive against the houthi's?
>>65019407Don't mind me. Just coming in to buy your fuel so now you have to outbid me if you want to keep it. Good thing you don't need that red sea trade route :-)
it's overpack it up boys
>>65031111Quads of truth confirm.
>>65031111mission accomplished
>>65031111This is another fakeout to keep the markets stable.Too many troops are en route to turn back.
>>65031111AI imageMods ban this poster pls we are winning WE ARE WINNING
>>65019318You know normally I'd say there's a better solution, but nah there isn't. Let 'er rape- I mean rip
>>65020769Criminally underrated.
>>65031111That's it, I'm never voting for Donald Trump again.
>>65019398>there doesn't seem to be a way to conclusively address the problem.There is, it's just that Trump doesn't want to eat the political landfall of a land invasion as it would make him a hypocrite. They're currently doing what they can in bombing stuff to piss off the Iranian regime, but without a land invasion it's just wasting money and time.
>>65019432Just nuke all pooslimes. Simple. After WW1 the whole region was carved up
>>65020434The issue right now is that Iran has turned this situation into a boon for them and China by proxy because they're demanding 2 million per ship and it must be paid in Yuan just to stiff the US even further. It also means that going forward Iran now enforces this threat on this specific area of land leading to them essentially getting tolls paid that weren't being done so before and it undermines American hegemony in the process.Let's say we end up in a TACO situation like >>65031111 and it comes true. Now we have pissed off allies across the globe, people are now having to pay the Iranian regime money just for safe passage when they didn't have to before, they're having to pay in Yuan instead of USD further undermining the US economy, and it's going to heavily undermine credibility of US hegemony in general that we couldn't do anything to stop them from something as minor as shooting at ships in a 20 mile area of sea.If we don't end up in a TACO situation and he actually invades then we'll piss off our Gulf Coast allies since they're for sure going to get bombed more when they're more or less a guarantor of our reputation in the area and the only major reason we can do operations there, we're going to potentially lose military bases from the political fallout if those succeed, we're going to piss off people domestically who don't want war, and we're going to see a lot of prices shoot up across the board.It's a lose-lose situation no matter what he does, but actually following through on the TACO would be catastrophic for US hegemony and undermines everything about our defensive pacts in the region. He genuinely would be smart to invade at this point if he has any hope of rectifying this situation because as it stands he's accomplishing nothing and trying to TACO will cause enormous repercussions to the global standing, particularly with regards to China.
>>65023367I am, because it was entirely their own choice to get everybody else involved when they only had beef with two countries.
>>65019315Shoot them.>But they will hide in population centers and use civilian shields and-Shoot them.
>>65031889yeah but they won't, so your edgy comments are meaningless
>>65031884>I amso what, you're nobody
>>65031111Shart of the deal
>>65023367The UN literally blamed Iran.
>>65019315Stop funding Isreal
>>65031934>UN condemning>anyone giving a fuck chose one and only one
>>65019389>The US is bombing North Vietnam, Viet Cong held territories, Laos, and Cambodia with total impunity.
>>65031938>No one blames Iran>NO NOT LIKE THAT!Inferior beings like you often have to use mental gymnastics to survive in the brown world you're trapped in.
>>65031810The economic consequences even if this stopped right now are going to be absurd. Fuck the price of oil, Helium's up over 2x and that has big downstream effects for the semiconductor industry globally. You also need it to operate MRIs.To keep it /k/ related you need it to cool seeker heads for some warheads types and in liquid fueled rockets/RCS control systems
>>65031111KWAB
>>65019318That's the Houthis once amerisissies show up thinking it's going to be Libya 2.0.
>>65029907Lmao, what they had are just copy of Peugeot and Hillman, not to mention, their "own" car are ridiculously expensive and people just buy other brand instead. Also being sanctioned by America does not mean they are sanctioned by other. Russia and China can supply them because duh
>>65031810>>65032326>taco>redditors are still raiding
>>65031810You're not wrong, but the GCC actually want Iran to fuck off and stop.And Israel is not going to stop dismantling Iranian capabilities, either.Donnie stuck his dick in, and now he's sttuck. declaring victory and saying 'I'm going home' is not going to fix this.
>>65029907No, YOU claimed the US does not have a functioning automotive industry. While your favorite zutt sluts have. Meanwhioe reality is the exact opposite. Prove your words you lying shitskin
>>65019318Rape children? I don't understand what solution you're proposing
>>65020339Irans coastline is XBOX hueg
>>65019315Maintain a constant presence of AI-powered surveillance UAVs that detect threats and automatically send information to nearby USV drone carriers to send out drone swarms at them.
>>65032531>but the GCC actually want Iran to fuck off and stop.True, but the problem is they keep getting bombed in response even if they want Iran to actually be stopped, and the current threat is to their various industrial sectors that keep them afloat as countries. I think we could protect them for the most part but someone is inevitably gonna get hit and then that'll reflect poorly.
>>65023499>Dirlewanger >not doing xMOTHERFUCKER HE GOT SANCTIONED BY THE SS FOR BEING TOO BRUTAL. >working for JewsHe worked as a strike breaker for a Jewish run factory and directly answered to the owner, Dirlewanger didn't care what cause or uniform he was wearing, only if he could do as much violence and rape as possible.
>>65019318Yep. Problem is we stopped waging real war in 1945. Now we have police actions and are judged by compromised media.
>>65022056>atrocitymaxxeryou only get that moniker if you lose
