Photos have surfaced showing extensive damage to US Air Force E-3 Sentry AE11EA 81-0005 following the drone and missile attack at Prince Sultan Air Base yesterday that also damaged several KC-135s.
>>65019660CENTCOM blew up an excavator though
>>65019660that plane was older than your grandma
>>65019715old is gold though
>>65019729how so? shitty plane that should have been retired decades ago, good thing iran is forcing them to modernize.
>thread #4Alright thats it.I'm a zionazi nowPls Bibi, nuke Iran
>>65019748savor the vintage
>>65019660Probably recoverable- Oryx
>>65019660THREAD SEVENTEENGIVE IT UP FOR THREAD SEVENTEEN
>>65020284Bro its over America is a smoldering crater.I just traded my sister off for a pack of cigarettes.It's our own fault for doubting Iranian power
>>65019660Centcom doesn't list any E3s as having been employed in the war with iran.
So, uh, how's that whole war thing going? You guys good?
>>65020303still kinda nuts that everyone in this image is dead
>>65020340Yet that didn't prevent this >>65019673>>65019686from happeningMaybe its time to reconsider this wasteful war strategy?
>shitskin tries to compare Spiderweb to iranians destroying some US cargo plane.I hate neoliberalism so much.
>>65020345>1 AWACS is wroth the countries supreme leader and the entire top military brasskek, we accept your prices :)
>>65020303>I just traded my sister off for a pack of cigarettes...you got any other ones?The cigarettes, I mean
>>65020345If killing all those gays doesn't stop Iran, what makes you think destroying a plane they're not even using is going to make any difference? Mossad is coming for you. You should panic.
>>65020303It's so joever, I'm having to beg my neighbor to siphon some gas of his tank just to make it to the bread line. I can't even turn my faucet on anymore, the taps are all dry. Damned Iranians, how are they so unstoppable at war? If only Trump and Netanyahu weren't so foolish to try and kick the mighty Persian Lion, now we're all starving in the streets while Tehran's streets are paved in gold>>65020345So true bestie, a plane is absolutely more valuable than a nation's entire upper command structure
>>65019660ayo deez niggas got laundrys on them planes?!! that shit be spittin mad fire
>>65020371someone forgot to turn on airplane mode before takeoff.this is what happens.
>>65020356and the navy.and the airforce.and most of the launchers.and the radar.and the air defense.and a steel mill.and a bunch of tunnel entrances.honestly that one ship captain made the right call by sailing to I think Sri Lanka and surrendering. He knew he was fucked from the word go.
>>65019660>It's real oh fuck, the third worlders are going to have a field day with this one.
>>65020392Yeah, they've been spamming pretty damn hardAnd making me into an unironic jidf shill out of pure hatred in the process...
>>65020379No you don't get it, America has lost assets in war and should've roflstomped Iran no diff. Now that we've lost a few planes and half a dozen men Iran wins by default, thems the rules when fighting shitskins. Doesn't matter how much of Tehran is reduced to a parking lot or the fact every military asset worth more than 6 figures is a faint memory, we lost because they said so
>>65020356I mean, look at the last 60 years of US mitary history, they call US interventions a defeat because their bar is "at least some of our people survived" he is 10+ posts in how a destroyed cargo plane is a major victory while they have nothing left from their own military but artillery cells to throw drones and rockets at civilians and their own ethnic cousins, and people ready to shoot their own citizens because they were sick of the Islamic Republic...And yet, despite all, US hegwmony continues, when all is said and done the machine keeps going, all the power these multipolars have attempted to invoke have come to naught but incomodities for the Wester Hegemony, our own mistakes and institutional mishaps have more weight than everything they could ever done and fixing these issues isn't really complicated if there is a will to do it.All these multipolars are irrelevant in the great scheme of things.
>>65020410The ONLY power Iran has left is the propaganda war.They suck and I literally view Israel in a positive light now because I despise them so much
Hello /k/ anons :)I’m a poster from another board, and I want to be respectful to the community you’ve created here, so I’d like to ask your advice on something if I can:How exactly do I discuss the Iranians destroying this US Air Force E-3 Sentry AE11EA 81-0005 without sounding “brown”, or “brown-coded”?Thanks! :D
>>65019660I saw claims that this was originally reported as "damaged". Is that true or a lie?
>>65020419Why does the US sail through the strait then faggot?
>>65020392they have been for a few hours, pol launched a special tinted-skin-color operation on this board
>>65020429you can't, retards like >>65020419 are in a cult and so anything you say that doesn't align with their view means, to them, that you're brown
Gay marriage and Trans rights set back 20 years with the destruction of that plane. Now the plane identifies as transfunctional.
>>65020439Yeah it got reported on Friday to be damaged at a Saudi airbase
The photo makes it look like the radar equipment specifically was targeted which raises the question: what did it get hit with? Tel Aviv is further from Tehran than PSAB but they're both between 500-1000 miles, yet the missiles being hurled at Israel seem to be much less accurate.
>>65020447>cultYou scratched the paint on a war machine devised to genocide dozens of millions of slav boomers pouring over the Fulda Gap.I hate stupid retards so fucking much.Duh jooz respect my white intelligence, unlike you dumb ass.
>>65020460yeah and I've seen a lot of people say that but can you link to a source? cuz I haven't been able to find it
>>65020392So will the White people, it's a good day to be a White gentile :)Hope the Iranians destroy more jewish aircraft.
>>65020429>I’m a poster from another boardbobina sexoooooo
>>65020469Various claims but I'm thinking Shahed>radarI don't think based on the pic visible remains that the airplane's "radar [radome] was targeted" there's plenty of other equipment inside it, but certainly a mid-fuselage hit on an AWACS is top choice for striking it with any weapon.They wanted to wipe it out and succeeded
>>65020487e-3 was only first reported today like 10 hours ago:airandspaceforces com/us-forces-saudi-arabia-iran-attack/photos then 2 hour ago from facebook:facebook com/AFamnncosnco
>>65020429only use information from reputable or primary sources like CENTCOM and ignore all photo-'evidence' in this ai infested world
>>65020414>AWACS is a cargo planeYou know gaslighting yourself isn't good for mental health.
>>65020534I hate to say it but the US "propaganda" is unironically more reliable in a world filled with jeets(tech "nomads") with a mobile network and Chatgpt
>>65020559no that was said by someone who we dismiss immediately if derangements are to be avoided
It was decoy.
>>65020559I don't give a shit about you surrender faggot.Instead you spam my internet.The jooz were right the whole damn time.Acting like little bitches and yelling at everyone like obnoxious turd worlders.The bombing will continue until you stop acting like white women.Holy fuck just roll over.Can't stand you fucking assholes. >but ackshullayWho's doing the dying right now?Who's oil is exploding in price right now?Its called you're a fucking loser and cut your losses.>but an AQD-174 costs 1.4millionSomalian illegals stole that last week.I don't care
If I was China I’d just cut off rare earth exports right now. Good luck replenishing all the shit Americans have/will waste in this retarded war.
>>65020469drone?
>>65020623>if I was CHYNA I'd fucking starve to death because I import all of my food
>>65020531>>65020626although most sources seem to be describing it as a missile attack, I think they might just be assuming that. I also lean toward a drone because, wouldn't you expect to see more runway damage if a ballistic missile fell from space on that spot? idk I'm not an expert. I honestly thought that those runways had already been abandoned for a base further to the west in Saudi, for the exact reason of vulnerability to drones. then I saw the reporting yesterday and thought "oh they haven't abandoned it, I guess they must have effective drone countermeasures." and now I see this and I'm wondering wtf is going on.
>>65020330Just because they weren’t employed doesn’t mean they aren’t in the area.
>>65020623I guess I don't understand why the US would try to open the strait in that scenario
If Iran is happy, and Iran is winningWhy do they keep trying to convince me the best thing for me to do is end the war?
>>65020723Who knows who is trying to convince you. It could be right anyway. What are you gaining with a burned AWACS?
What Space Force doing?!?
>>65020723It's pretty transparent that they want to good cop/bad cop us into going back to old nuclear deal.
>>65020723Iran is winning the prisoners dilemma by closing the strait, but everyone wins more by opening it. The US is losing the prisoners dilemma. Simple as.
>>65020723Same could be said about Trump.
>"Death to America" since 1979>its just dey cultchaCongratulations on regressing to the early industrial age you fucking retards
>>65020530Okay to be clear if the USAF wanted to stop being retarded they could've had E-7s ages ago. Multiple air forces already fly them. The RAAF was the lead customer and actually deployed one of theirs to the region, even.
>>65020755>"Death to America" since 1979https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjU5i3-EnYYAs an American, I have no issue with them saying it, they're based :)They tell you directly what they mean when they say it, but of course, no media outlet here will take the time to translate their discourse
>>65020829"Death to America" means death to (you) and if they had the opportunity to kill you they'd take it asshole.>but ackshullay israelEveryone whiter than a brown paper bag is duh joo to them.
migasissies how do we spin this around??
>>65020831if not for christcucks and jews they would be stuck on the opposite side of the world and no threat whatsoever
>>65020839The USN is the only explicitly constitutionally authorized branch because of retarded muslim punks picking fights for retarded reasons.
>>65020834idk, should we start posting images of every single blown up iranian plane, ship, building etc.? That might take a looong time.
>>65020831> "Death to America" means death to (you) and if they had the opportunity to kill you they'd take it asshole.lol ok boomer
>>650208312004 just called. They want their fear mongering back.Anyway, kinda funny to see what's happening here...>obvious shill: "Oh, I will now announce how this photo changed my mind and turned me into a zioshill"ok buddy
>>65020839>what is the ottoman empire?>what are the barbary corsairs?>what is the muslim conquest of iberia?
>>65020829>>65020862Do you really expect anyone to buy into this crap?
I wish I could have killed ragheads in the GWOT
>>65020873GWOT never ended you mongoloid.
>>65020861>he still thinks iranian's airforce and navy ever were in playoh no no no
>>65020859>>65020866All done before the modern age. The US can shoot down any plane and sink any boat that approaches it's shores today
>>65020876I never enlisted retard-kun.
>>65020883No one is going to buy into this crap. We've all heard it before. Posting a Nazi isn't helping either.
>>65020893You don't think the US can shoot down airplanes or boats? Where were you when we just destroyed the Iranian airforce and navy on the opposite side of the world? You are an unserious retard
no but seriously why was this parked out in the open four weeks into the conflict?
>>65020896What the fuck are you talking about?
>>65019660Smoking accident.
>>65019748>we don't NEED AWACS planes >It was old anyway you sound like an assblasted zigger right now anon. It's okay to say that this is bad for the US and move on with your life. It's not like it's a war-ending catastrophe
>>65020899You are an illiterate
>>65020897Do you not understand it yet lol? Every leader in America has been replaced by a Trump loyalist who will do whatever he says. They can either be competent or not at their job, as long as bowing to Trump is what they do. This is what happens when you elect completely corrupt people who only want power and money. Expect more of this in the future.
>>65020345>Yet that didn't prevent thisi agree that american's might retarded but that's a single plane. do you know how many aircraft the us lost fighting saddam even after rapind his army in desert storm? do you expect them to take 0 losses? you must be12 years old
>>65020908You're not good at this. You're not going to convince Americans to like muslims.
>>65020469drones. the gulf state and americans were absolutely unprepared for them because they're incompetent
>>65020916I'd bet money they were too proud to get Ukraine more involved. They've been dealing with it for a while now.
>>65020913If you were literate you'd know I was advocating for a abrahamic free US, which means no muslims.
>>65020755>regressing to the early industrial agethis. a loss of a hundred-million-dollar plane is terrible but what about getting your 3 biggest steel plants blown to shits when you depend entirely on locally produced steel
>>65019748you sound exactly like a coping russian
>>65020928Iran is fucked longterm but they will keep the strait closed with drones and intel from Russia/China and this will be very costly for America
>>65020414Nah. They're called defeats because US hegemony didn't allow to reach the desired endstate.You killed all their senior leadership and now they're fucking up the world's most vital strait with flying lawnmowers with no signs of abating.Great success.
>>65019686don't leave your most expensive plane outside in a warzone. At least tow it around once an hour with one of those cuck tractors
>>65020927Awful, just awful attempt at persuasion.
>>65020934keep the straits closed for how long? they have to sign a deal at some point and they will. but a deal won't bring back the strategic shit the us and israel blew up
>>65020530Looks like Iran was able to hit the expensive part too
>>65020928>depend entirely on locally produced steelahh good thing they haven't prepared decades for this... Nice try rabbi. Russia and China have both admitted to providing Iran with what it needs.Really, what is this all about? Just some cope from shills and that's it, apparently.
>>65020934They will be starving asshole.You are the Ukrainians now lelCHYNA is playing you retards so fucking hard right now.Saber rattling ass fucking retards
>>65020934>they will keep the strait closedThis is not going to work out the way they want.
>>65020681I saw earlier a big crater in a Saudi airstrip. Not sure if it's the same attack. Also it would be a good idea to send drones during a missile attack because everyone will be looking for the missiles
>>65020945Hey moron, israel and the US do not want a “deal”. They want regime changeAnd iran can go full MAD and simply attack gulf state oil infrastructure and desalination if the US attempts to force the strait open
>>65020950>ahh good thing they haven't prepared decades for this... Nice try rabbi. Russia and China have both admitted to providing Iran with what it needs.oh really? please show me where russia and china said this. and i don't doubt iran will start importing steel now. which will cause its own new problems and affect the steel economy (which is huge in iran) but do you think russia and china are simply going to teleport gorillions tonne of steel instantly and what about all those people in that industry. are they going to work in russia and china?
>>65020960Dude it's actually aweful.They will be starvingJust couldn't fucking fold
>>65020945>>65020954If they keep it closed or semi-closed for months then the world is fucked. You may think that if they are severely reduced in capabilities to shoot at ships then it will open up but that isn't understanding the situation. The damage is already done, Iran and the gulf state's ability to pump oil has taken a hit that will take a decade to bring it back to normal. Gas prices aren't going down.Look at what the houthis did. Even though they stopped firing (for now at least) at the red sea shipping hasn't increased since the conflict ended. Think of it like this, if you drove down a highway to get to work each day and there was a sniper there with a .001 chance of being killed by that sniper, would you ever drive down it? That is what the strait will be like. Ships are not going to want to pass through.>>65020945ESL
>>65020957>They want regime changethey obviously do but everyone recognizes that this isn't going to happen without boots on the ground and it depends entirely on the people of iran to make a change. this is why no one, not even the israelis have said that regime change is an official objective.what do you think all the talks are for retard? iran can't keep the strait closed ad infinitum lol
>>65020957>>65020965>If they keep it closed or semi-closed for months then the world is fuckedThis is why it's not going to work out the way they want.
>>65020964they'll be fine. sure, they'll be a rump state but they'll be fine
>>65020965>>65020945meant to tag the other guy for the ESL comment>>65020969Do you know how unpopular the war is? All these other countries are not going to commit troops. They are going to pressure the US and Israel to a ceasefire. Nobody is coming to save the strait. This is such a colossal fuckup.
>>65020965>If they keep it closed or semi-closed for months then the world is fucked.war comes with costs for all sides. but who do you think will be more "fucked" in the longer term? things will cost more now but is that worse than being bombed to shits
>>65020975>All these other countries are not going to commit troops.You're telling them that they have to.>They are going to pressure the US and Israel to a ceasefire.The will and probably already is on Iran. Everyone remembers what appeasement is.
why are all the pics so weird-looking?
>>65020969Short of a full scale ground invasion, literally nothing can change that
>>65020985Explain.
>>65020982Iran will be more fucked but they can execute anybody who goes against the regime so who cares? They are prepared to live at a level the US and rich western nations aren't.>>65020983>You're telling them that they have to.This isn't going to happen. The US didn't even tell NATO what it was going to do. He shits on them constantly. Instead of building a coalition to attack and planning and preparing they told everyone to fuck off and just went in with no plan. This is going to be disastrous for the US.>Everyone remembers what appeasement is.No they don't. Trump strategy with Putin is once again appeasement. Just like it is with NATO. No balls, no serious lethal aid to Ukraine, no serious enforcement of sanctions etc. They will do everything they can not to get their hands dirty in this conflict.
>>65020990NTA but they look a little AI. The wreckage is very messy and the pictures are quite high contrast. I think they're real though since the tail is at the same skewed angle in all 3 pictures
>>65019660>week 5 of the 4 four week special military operation
>>65020982>we’re going to be plunged into a decade long recession but its okay because we wont be as bad as iran!This is unironically what the average migatard boomer believes
>>65020996England lost like 500 men in Iraq and Trump insulted them like 6 weeks before bombing Iran in saying that they didn't pull their weight. Now he's wondering why people aren't interested in helping
>>65020999checked, the airframe has already been verified and pics are CENTCOM release.(What you're seeing/perceiving is from image compression software, for sharing online)
>>65021003is the decades long recession in the room with us right now or is it one of those third world fantasies?
America is over; a military asset parked on the other side of the planet has been struck and lost!
>>65020996>They are prepared to live at a level the US and rich western nations aren't.and that's the goal of the US and Israel. they want reduce Iran to a feeble rump state
>>65021011
>>65021010Yeah it's real all right it just has that uncanny valley vibe. The colors do it too.Trump must be pissed right now
>>65020623you obviously believe China is the only place with the rare earth minerals LOL. pro tip. they are not.
>>65021012if a drone did this, it's not something that should happen
>>65021011>>65021018
>>65021012>>65021018>>65021027
>>65020988Every time. It's always this same question begging. No, taking action against Iran is not going to result in a ground invasion that they fantasize about. This threat that you can only invade them does not give Iran the license to do whatever it wants.>>65020996If Iran actually does succeed in putting the world economy on pace to crash, why any of this matter? They'll be putting themselves in a position where the nations of the world have to stop them or risk the same thing happening again when Iran decides it wants something else. This doesn't make any sense. There's no reason for the world to play along.
>>65021018>>65021027wtf does this have to do with the iran war exactly?
>>65019715>that plane was older than your grandma>>65019748>shitty plane that should have been retired decades ago>>65019784>our air defence failed to defend our military base, but its actually ok cause it was old 'n shieeetIt sadens me to see burgers coping like the most retarded vatniggers.This is so tiresome.
>>65021036it's trolling, retard
>>65021035>wtf does economics have to do with war exactly?Hmmm maybe a lot. Production is needed to win a war and the will of the people is based on their economic security. If you don't have the will of the people you get Vietnam
>>65020967>what do you think all the talks are for retard? iran can't keep the strait closed ad infinitum lolWhat talks? Trump lied, there's been no talks. The lie was so hollow he didn't even have a name to throw out for who they supposedly negotiated with.
>>65019715>we didn't need itWhere have I heard this before?
>>65021045>VietnamIs the Vietnam War a part of Iran's Leninist founding mythos?
>>65021033Its silly.They're a terrorist state now with Chinese drones and missiles ruining everything.Everybody is trying to out wait... the USA before controlling the smaller enemy?Iran will be in the flat out stone age soon now
>>65021055>irrelevant time wasting questionit's crazy how much of leftist discourse is them pretending to be retarded
>>65021033>They'll be putting themselves in a position where the nations of the world have to stop them or risk the same thing happening again when Iran decides it wants something else. This doesn't make any sense. There's no reason for the world to play along.They've had this ability for decades, they've never used it before. Like it or not they've been rational actors throughout the conflict with tit for tat responses and a clear escalatory ladder, which is more than can be said about the current US leadership.
>>65021033And how exactly does the world stop them without invading and forcefully removing the regime?
>>65021047there's correspondence happening in the background through various channels like Pakistan. iran has looked at us demands and obviously rejected them but this does show that correspondence is still happening and it's still very early for any serious breakthrough to happen yet.if you think iran will close the straits forerever by just absorbing damage, i have a bridge to sell you
>>65021023They are not. But they are practically the only place with the expertise for cheap and large scale refining of them, and with tolerance for the environmental hazards it entails. It's one of the few things they are ahead of us in.
>>65021045>Production is needed to win a war and the will of the people is based on their economic securitycomplete nonsense. who says there is a problem with production for the war?
>>65021060They are aggressive, constantly threaten to close the strait, have actually tried to do so in the '80s, and have done all manners of thing to earn the world's ire. Why would anyone let them get away with it? There's no reason to take them at their word.
>>65021059You can just say yes.
>>65019660Reality check has started reaching americans. Not so funny to laugh at Russians now, huh.
>>65020469>they're both between 500-1000 milesMaybe local saboteurs using just short range drone.
>>6502107580s is 40 years ago pal, the US invaded Iraq on Bibis orders only 20 years ago. Youre worse.
>>65021060>they've been rational actorsAnd history began a month ago.
>>65021086>Iran did the thing that made them worse before the US was even a problem for themReally not getting how that makes Iran the good guy.
>>65021094Strawman argument. Didnt say Irsn was the good guy, i said the US was worse.
>>65021082how many dead americans vs how many russians were dead a month into the war? an expensive plane isn't as demorilizing as seeing a soldiers get blown to actual bits in 1080p
>>65021086They have tried to close it before and are doing so now. They're even making outrageous demands to reopen it. Why should the world reward them for threatening their livelihoods, especially when the they can turn around and do it again? It makes no sense.
>>65021074How many Tomahawks does the US have and how many are they making? How many AWACES do they have and how many AWACES are the making? Why are the US not launching the same amount of missiles they launched day 1 every single day?You are ignorant or retarded, take your pick.
>>65021104How is the world going to ensure it doesnt happen again?
>>65021104The straits were open until The Ugly American decided to attack out of the blue - and on Israeli orders too, what Ultimate Cucks
>>65021106by glassing tel aviv to ensure world peace
>>65021106Same as last time most likely, escorted convoys and limited offensive action to degrade Iran's ability to keep it closed.
>>65021111That isnt a solution, and its not going to happen
>>65021113No the solution might be starving them out and I think things might be going there
>>65021093Every time thirdies try this "historically innocent nation please understand" bullshit, they seem to forget that we can just... google their fucking history and see how they've been assholes from day 1.
>>65021113>its not going to happenIt will if Iran keeps it up.
>>65021105>How many Tomahawks does the US have and how many are they making?the us had ~4500 tomahawk missiles. production has been increased to 1000 per year. you retards compare wartime production to peacetime production because you are actually braindead. why should 500 gorillions missiles be produced if no one is going to order them>Why are the US not launching the same amount of missiles they launched day 1 every single day?because the number of static targets in a target bank decreases, retard. and the opening strikes are always the most intense in any conflict because after that targets move and disperse. also, i would love to know how you know how many missiles the us is actually launching every single day. also, notice how you didn't make a single argument but instead asked questions without obvious answers because you're a mouthbreather who can't think for themselves?
>>65021105>why isn't the US blowing up things at the same rate as when there were more things to blow up?Are you stupid? Do you want us to just start indiscriminately bombing cities to rubble like you fuckers try to do with your missile chimpouts?
>>65021121>production has been increasedidk if that will be possible with chink sanctions on US.
>>65021125what?
>>65021127idk if that will be possible with chink sanctions on US.
>>65021128why not retard. are you incapable of explaining why? or do you think sanctions magically shutdown factories and the ability to make shit?
>>65021121>production has been increased to 1000 per yearThat's not what your screenshot says. It says that in up to seven years they will hit 1,000 with new investments. That's also just from RTX, one of two suppliers.I looked a little more into it than you did and it sounds like the current belief is that there's surge capacity of up to 2,000 or so going by current contracts, though numbers seem a little contradictory and I'm not confident they could actually hit that based on what I'm reading about the need for facility expansions.Current purchase rates are at 90-ish units a year.It's good that they're expanding but they should've had this capacity years ago with the looming threat of China. This was a foreseeable issue.
>>65021130Raytheon which makes le tomahawk is on CCP sanctions list meaning every raw material whatever they need for manufacturing and is imported from chi-nah is now on export ban list.idk what materials are those but supposedly much of the stuff is no longer produced in us anymore like gallium, galium nitride, germanium.
>>65021136that's not what is says at all. it clearly says that under the new frameworks *annual* production will be increased to more than 1000. the seven year agreement is about orders and how long this framework is expected to last
>>65021115You arent going to starve them out, and they can inflict much more economic pain than we can tolerate
>>65021153>every raw material whatever they need for manufacturing and is imported from chi-nah is now on export ban list>idk what materials are those but supposedly sounds like you're guessing. at least post up some sort of evidence instead of making vague claims
>>65021160didn't they have to kill thousands of their people to put down protests that came because of economic issues before the war even began? i don't recall the last time western states had to do this. overall, sounds like a big gamble for them
>two more weeks>we don't need it anyway Those occurrences remind something
>>65021161like what do you want, random twitter post how US is mass buying phone chargers on alibaba and extracting gallium from them so they can make radars for F35 lol.I only know ban exists and chinks are not placing those randomly but where it hurts the most.
>>65021105settle down niggy
Trump was warned about fucking drones. How US managed to enter this war so unprepared?
>>65021172>like what do you wantevidence for claims for starters? if you're gonna make claims, provide some evidence. not all of us live in fantasy land>I only know ban exists and chinks are not placing those randomly but where it hurts the mostmore vague allusions. how much are they hurting a bit or a lot not that much at all? you have no idea because you're just making shit up on the spot
>>65020414Agreed with most of what you said here.When your army has a budget of 900 billions per year, losing a few each year just to maintain hegemony is totally acceptable.The thirdies can scream defeat if they want : at the end of the day, they are the ones who remain poor as fuck and lost their husbands, fathers, brothers and sons by the thousands while seeing decades of buildup reduced into rubbles... and just for what ? Increasing the US MIC purchases by less than 1% ?Forcing burgers to NOT get extra fries this month so they can tank the rising gas price ?
>>65020356as much as i agree that air/tech advantage is a huge factor in winning a war, i also think that underestimating enemy resilience and pretending that tech and hardware is an end-all be-all is just hubrishas vietnam (and god knows how many decades in the sandbox) taught us nothing about how the limit of tech advantage and air supremacy in the face of determined ground-level resistance?>inb4 um akhchully we won vietnam
>>65021044Oh, so its "trolling" now. Lots of "trolling" going on recently. Whats next? i_was_mearly_pretending.jpg?
>>65021122>Are you stupid? Do you want us to just start indiscriminately bombing cities to rubble like you fuckers try to do with your missile chimpouts?Iran still has missile capacity so clearly there are lots of valid targets. Also there are still lots of elementary schools to bomb for purim blood rituals you jew.>>65021121>notice how you didn't make a single argument but instead asked questions without obvious answers because you're a mouthbreather who can't think for themselves?What is rhetorical strategy for 200 Alex? The answers are obvious lmao. >you retards compare wartime production to peacetime production because you are actually braindeadThe US has been at war with Iran 47 years according to the government so there should have been 47000 Tomahawks. >because the number of static targets in a target bank decreases, retard. and the opening strikes are always the most intense in any conflict because after that targets move and disperse. also, i would love to know how you know how many missiles the us is actually launching every single day. What's the point of US spy satellites if they can't track Iranian missile targets?
>>65021153>idk what materials are thoseStuff that can be imported raw from third parties.The issue isn't that they aren't available.The issue is that it's a bit more costly.But we are talking a few percent of the cost of the final product so it's negligeable impact for Raytheon.
>>65021101>an expensive plane isn't as demorilizing as seeing a soldiers get blown to actual bits in 1080pIt's the opposite for the russians.
>>65021191>The US has been at war with Iran 47 years according to the government so there should have been 47000 Tomahawks.and how many Tomahawks were they firing in those 47 years, genius?>What's the point of US spy satellites if they can't track Iranian missile targets?who says they can't? do you think they can track every single fucking track in iran simultaneously. is this a smoothbrain's view of how satellites work?
>>65019660>extensive damagePffft. Nothing a bucket of concrete can't fix.
>>65021191>ran still has missile capacity so clearly there are lots of valid targetsand those targets are fewer in number than they were at the beggining of the war, hence leass bombs being dropped. it's simply maths really. but asking retards to understand simple arithmetic is too much
>>65021194if it was really nothingbugerger chink would have not even bother with sanctions yet they did.
>>65021201>it's simply mathsMay we see how many days until the mullahs sign on the dotted line?
>>65021196>and how many Tomahawks were they firing in those 47 years, genius?0 which is why there should have been 47000 a month ago since wartime production is 1000 per year. Read your own post champ>who says they can't? do you think they can track every single fucking track in iran simultaneously. is this a smoothbrain's view of how satellites work?Then why have Iran been able to launch any missiles? First you said the US has no targets for why the US doesn't launch missiles; now you say their are lots of targets. Curious. >>65021201Again, why are the Iranians still launching missiles if the US has the missiles and the intelligence? Why haven't the US destroyed all the Iranian missile capacity? You do not answer because your are a pilpuling idiot.
>>65021082>retarded decisions caused military hardware to be destroyed Vs>hundreds of thousands of people getting killed or maimed in pointless human wave attacksI think i know which one I prefer
>>65019660Eternal flight
Another example of post-industrial country (us) losing the war to industrial country (iran)
>>65020345>Maybe its time to reconsider this wasteful war strategy?Nah
>>65019660Day 30 of the 4-day SMO to liberate the women of Iran:Today we lost a significant number of aerial tankers, a flying radar, after the ground radars got blown up, and control of the strait is a distant desire. Oil soon heading to $10 a gallon.But at least they have free, socialized healthcare in Israel.
>>65021208> which is why there should have been 47000 a month ago since wartime production is 1000 per yearproduction was ramped up because it's wartime, retard. the screenshot doesn't say that was the peacetime production. goddamn you retards can't even read simple fucking sentence>Then why have Iran been able to launch any missiles?iran is a massive country the launchers are dispersed, a lost in mountains and some embedded in civilian areas. >First you said the US has no targets once again you show you can't read. i said static targets in the target bank. not mobile ones>Again, why are the Iranians still launching missiles if the US has the missiles and the intelligencebecause again. iran is a massive fucking country and they can hide launchers in various places. it's not rocket science>Why haven't the US destroyed all the Iranian missile capacity? You do not answer because your are a pilpuling idioti answered you dumb question twice. read above
>>65021207what does this have to do with my statement?
>>65021230>the screenshot doesn't say that was the peacetime productionThe US has been at war with Iran for 47 years. This is the official stance of the US government. >iran is a massive country the launchers are dispersed, a lost in mountains and some embedded in civilian areas. >i said static targets in the target bank. not mobile onesSo Iran is too big and hilly for the US to effectively strike it with missiles? And the US can't hit moving targets or track movable objects? You're saying the US capability sucks and that is why Iran can still launch missiles. Thanks for admitting it!
>>65021241>The US has been at war with Iran for 47 years. This is the official stance of the US government.you said this already. are you doing the things where you retards loop back around in your script after demonstrating how brain dead you are?>So Iran is too big and hilly for the US to effectively strike it with missiles?no launchers are hidden. it's much easier to strike them after they fire not before. why is this hard to understand?>And the US can't hit moving targets or track movable objects? > You're saying the US capability sucks and that is why Iran can still launch missiles. Thanks for admitting it!where did i say or imply this?
>>65021241bagshitter-tier weirdness
>>65021155>*annual* production will be increased to more than 1000Yes, by the end of their implementation. They're expanding capacity. They're not saying that the current factory is going to go from producing 40 missiles a year to 1,000 overnight.
>>65021251>you said this already.I said again because you ignored it and said the US was producing Tomahawks at peacetime capacity. The US has not been in peacetime for 47 years so the US should have 47000 Tomahawks because the wartime capacity is 1000 per year. Simple as.>no launchers are hidden. it's much easier to strike them after they fire not before. why is this hard to understand?What's the point of spy satellites, AI, and big data if it can't identify the launchers beforehand? Seems like the US ability is lacking and the military contracts are boondoggles. >where did i say or imply this?>>65021230>i said static targets in the target bank. not mobile ones
>>65021266>I said again because you ignored it and said the US was producing Tomahawks at peacetime capacity. The US has not been in peacetime for 47 years so the US should have 47000 Tomahawks because the wartime capacity is 1000 per year. Simple as.i asked you how many tomahawks were fired at this time. so i'll ask again, in 47 years how many tomahawks have been fired?>What's the point of spy satellites, AI, and big data if it can't identify the launchers beforehand?do you think they are magic? are they supposed to see through mountains and identify launchers hidden in civilian structures?>Seems like the US ability is lacking and the military contracts are boondogglesmmhh i wonder if the dead in iran would agree with you.>>i said static targets in the target bank. not mobile onessince you have a hard time understanding i'll explain to you one more time. static targets in a target bank get hit first during war. other targets then disperse and hide. they get huntted. static targets are easier to hit at once, compared to moving once. this doesn't mean the us isn't bombing moving targets. it just means the rate is lower. i am baffled that this simple concept is hard to understand for you
>>65019660dont those bases have defenses? wtf are they doing
>>65020490>s-so will the white peopleyou're not white.
>>65020829>a-as an americanyou're not american lol>t-they're basedsisterfucking religious zealots are based?contrarianism is a mental illness lol.
>>65020879>w-we didn't need itKEK
>>65021272Not their job, that's for sure
>>65021270>in 47 years how many tomahawks have been fired?Answered already in >>65021208>do you think they are magic? are they supposed to see through mountains and identify launchers hidden in civilian structures?Tunnels have exits which are visible and static. EM waves can see through walls/roofs. >mmhh i wonder if the dead in iran would agree with you.90 million Iranians are alive and agree with me. How many did the US kill in Vietnam and the middle east? Lots. How many are there today? More than when the US bombed them. Wars are won by political will and attrition. The US will is only that of the Epstein jew elite and MIGAtards. >it just means the rate is lowerThe rate is below that which the Iranians launch and there are still thousands of elementary schools so clearly there is something lacking. I am baffled that this simple concept is hard to understand for you.
>>65021272The Air Defence Cuckold can't get his rocks off from just watching Russian property explode anymore, he's had to branch out.
>>65021233checked, what has a single thing (You) posted itt to do with either the OP topic or /k/ Weapons?Get off of my board and Stay Off, forever.
>>65020945>keep the straits closed for how long?essentially indefinitely>they have to sign a deal at some point the u.s. tends to kill their leaders and bomb their girl schools in the middle of negotiating the deal. that's not really conducive to diplomatic agreements.
>>65021288you answer was retarded. as is written in the screenshot, production was ramped up only recently. if 0 tomahawk missilses are fired and the government is not making orders or giving contracts, why tf would a private company operating on profit make 1000 per year for no reason.>Tunnels have exits which are visible and static. EM waves can see through walls/roofs.and launchers get hit when outside and entrances too. irans mountains are deep and composed of granite no SAR radar can give you a reliable pic from above>90 million Iranians are alive and agree with methey don't. the governement killed an untold amount when they protested. there are many who area celebrating the bombings>The US will is only that of the Epstein jew elite and MIGAtards.the us will is to crush iran and they're doing that. also funny epstein would have loved iran. the age of marriage is 13 for girls. and there's no limit when the father give permission. don't start with that epstein shit>The rate is below that which the Iranians launchthe iranians are launching a handful of missiles a day. it's laughable. israel is probabbly glad to see the gulf states get crushed more
>>65021297>essentially indefinitelythat's a pipe dream. >the u.s. tends to kill their leaders and bomb their girl schools in the middle of negotiating the deal. that's not really conducive to diplomatic agreements.ohh that sucks. strange then that iran will continue talking to the us
>>65021299i still remember the recent massive explosion in iran and the guy filming it going WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOthe faggots pretending that this war made the average iranian hate america more than their government are delusional.>b-but they've hit one school accidentally and i've been pretending in my head that they've been intentionally bombing thousands of schools for days nowis usually their only response, which is both retarded and bad-faith.
>>65021297The GCC, aka the Persian Gulf wealthy monarchy states, are not going to tolerate too much more of this.In other words: the GCC isn't going to tolerate a years-long dragged out Ukraine type of scenario in the Arabian Gulf.So there is pressure rn, to be certain in both Israel and the White House to get this wrapped up. From both the big oil lobby, and the zionist lobby. Some kind of 'deal' or agreement is incoming. Rubio hinted the other day, that it might ? include a medium-term concession that Iran will be regularly charging admission for passage of vessels through the Strait of Hormuz. That obviously includes nations such as China which depend on large chunks of their petroleum/LNG imports from there.We'll see. If this does not end by May or June 2026 then it will only degenerate further into uncharted and unpredictable territory. The Persian Gulf monarchies, overall, abhor messiness and uncertainty. They can't take much more of it.
>>65021305case in point with this emotional liar >>65021297>m-muh schoolswish you faggots would not feign crocodile tears for the iranian people and actually gave a shit when thousands of them got slaughtered by the govt.
>>650212990 tomahawk missiles were fired BEFORE ONE MONTH AGO. Obviously they have been fired since. The original question was about before March.>and launchers get hit when outside and entrances too. irans mountains are deep and composed of granite no SAR radar can give you a reliable pic from aboveEM waves see through civilian structures. Try to see which parts of my posts correspond to yours.>they don't. the governement killed an untold amount when they protested. there are many who area celebrating the bombingsThey do. Mossad and CIA fags got blasted, no actual Iranians in the "protests" which were really just intelligence color revolution activities. The diaspora who celebrate hate Iran because so left it. Why care about their opinions?>the us will is to crush iran and they're doing that. also funny epstein would have loved iran. the age of marriage is 13 for girls. and there's no limit when the father give permission. don't start with that epstein shitFlak is heaviest over the target. You are a MIGA jew lover who idolizes Epstein. I have never condoned Iran's domestic policy, you have made a strawman by saying I do.>the iranians are launching a handful of missiles a day. it's laughable. israel is probabbly glad to see the gulf states get crushed moreLaughable when your previous E-3 gets destroyed? Your vitriolic posts say otherwise.>>65021305The school was double tapped on purpose because it was a purim blood ritual you yahudi loving faggot.
>>65021307>GCC, aka the Persian Gulf wealthy monarchy states, are not going to tolerate too much more of this.>In other words: the GCC isn't going to tolerate a years-long dragged out Ukraine type of scenario in the Arabian Gulf.Lmao.He thinks the inbred Gulfjeets have anything to say in this matter...Lmao even
>>65021333checked, sorry (You)'re mentally deficient but that's not our problemGo elsewhere for therapy and sympathy
>>65021280pool's closed
>>65021331>The original question was about before Marchwhy is it relevant? the production rate depends on government orders and contracts. the production rate is set by the market. we do live in a capitalist system after all.>waves see through civilian structures. Try to see which parts of my posts correspond to yours.you expect them to look through all civilian infrastructure at once, especially given the size of iran? even then just because you identified a truck, it doesn't mean it's a launcher>Mossad and CIA fags got blasted,damn. they are that powerful? iran had no problems at all. thousands simply got up protested because mossad cia said so. not because iran has economic and social issues? from one of the highest inflation in the world to being unable to properly provide its capital with water? >You are a MIGA jew lover who idolizes Epsteinwhere have i said this? i think you need to take a break from the internet. it's fucking with your brain. you are imagining things.>Laughable when your previous E-3 gets destroyed?what does this have to do with the launch rate? a handful of drones and missiles can still land. it doesn't mean they aren't a handful
>>65021348>pilpul nonsense from a faggot who can't press shift
>>65021360>no argument from a retard who lacks basic thinking and reading comprehension
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>>65021386kek
>>65021386>OK>OK>NOT OK
>>65021331>t-the school was double tapped on purposei'm sure it was real in your mind, brownoid-san.so where's all the other blown up schools? you can't even post 1 other?as pointed out in >>65021309you are an emotionally manipulative liar, you don't give a fuck about the iranian people.
>>65021347for iran, lol.
>>650214834u big guy
>>65019686>>65019673>>65019660she'll buff out
>>65020345>strategywhat strategy? there is no strategy beyond>bomb them and hope they give up
>>65021513Were is there navy oh at the button of the ocean air force crushed leadership dead you faggots live in a fantasy its fucking pathetic.
>>65021613that's a lot of winning conditionswhy is the strait still closed?
