Is there a risk to kill someone or harm someone to death by using the most powerful ammos you can use with those self-defense Co2 guns?Or there is only low chances? Does it cause very painful harm anyway?
>>65022441Like non lethal rounds or the big ass pellets they design for those? As far as the pellets that are pretty damn big. I'm reading self defense as in your house yard ect and you are forced at very close range to shoot someone. With the pellets if you just unload into the attacker I don't see why .50 cal pellets at 400fps at close range wouldn't at least put a holt to the shenanigans. However that less than lethal stuff, there is a good chance you are just going to piss the guy off who is wind sprinting at you for at chance at your prison wallet.
>>65022480I was referring to the most powerful ammos who increase the joules to 19 and more, so it include those ones called titans, devastators, etc... and the pellets.Does the pellets can kill even at long range or can simply harm a lot enough to stop the offenders? The idea is BTFOing without killing, with the pellets or something similar.
>>65022502No
>>65022502>I was referring to the most powerful ammos who increase the joules to 19 and moreEnergy isn't a measurement of penetration. A needle with 10 foot pounds of energy will stab deeply into someone while a steel ball with 20 will not.You can optimize any airgun projectile to stab into someone with a thin, long projectile. Joerg Sprave was able to punch a needle through thick cow bones using only 7 jews of energy or whatever you faggots measure with.
>>65022502>The idea is BTFOing without killing, with the pellets or something similar.That's how a child thinks.Every weapon that reliably (that is an important word, RELIABLY) stops a serious attacker has a significant chance to kill.Real life isn't a Television show. You cant beat someone till they stop attacking without risking death. You cant shoot someone with something that doesn't risk killing them but will "reliably" stop them. Police forces have tried to find this magical zone for fifty years and it doesn't exist, in fact, there's the reverse: Rather than a magical spot where bullets cant kill but always stop the enemy, there's a spot where the bullets are both too dangerous to use on anyone you don't want dead, but not dangerous enough to consistently stop the enemy.
>>65022537>>65022780Well, so the ammos will be non-lethal no matter what I use? I'm interested in harming and causing injuries with it but not killing because in my country if you kill a burglar you can go to jail even if there is a home invasion.I ask this because IA told me that it can be lethal if eyes or throat are touched and cause internal hemorragic reactions. I don't want to kill, just to knock-down fags who attack me, is it possible without any risk to kill with these guns?
>>65022815I know that, but the percentages to kill are probably still low with that kind of weapon?
>>65022835>Well, so the ammos will be non-lethal no matter what I use?No. Anything seriously painful hitting against the chest under clothing can damage the throat enough to kill. Anything capable of knocking someone over can kill. So either your shitty paintball gun does nothing when it hits 90% of their body, or it could gouge an eye, a throat, or cause a concussion that leads to hemorrhage. >I ask this because IA told me that it can be lethal if eyes or throat are touched and cause internal hemorragic reactions. I don't want to kill, just to knock-down fags who attack me, is it possible without any risk to kill with these guns?You are the one who sounds like a fag, but the weapon you are looking for is called PEPPER SPRAY.It's that or you throw fucking potatoes at them. Your call.
>>65024684I am a fag for asking ways of avoiding killing and courts? I have to shoot at anything like a cowboy of muttamerica to not be a fag?
>>65025109You're going to get fucked by the courts no matter what, the question is do you want to do so with a dozen knife wounds from when the pissed off mudslime carves you up for giving him the equivalent of a bee sting.
>>65022441No and the only people who tell you otherwise are airgun sellers and people from noguns countries on hypercopium.
>>65025109Putain mais ferme ta gueule sale attardé sans déconner va te faire enculer, c'est pas avec ton pistolet de merde que tu vas faire quoi que ce soitPrends une vraie arme qui est garantie d'arrêter ton adversaire, si tu veux un truc légal alors prends un pistolet à poudre noire plutôt qu'une arme à air comprimé de tafiole suceur de zgeg goulu. Et oui l'autre anon a raison tu sonnes comme une grosse pédale donc serre ton string rougeoyant et prends toi une vraie arme plutôt qu'un jouet qui te sauvera ni la vie ni ta liberté dans un tribunal
>>65025109If you wanted to avoid killing and courts you'd be a lot better off getting a pepper spray and learning to run really really fast.
>>65022835>I'm interested in harming and causing injuries with it but not killing because in my country if you kill a burglar you can go to jail even if there is a home invasion.What country?
>>65025213He's definitely absolutely french
>>65022835>in my countryOh, it's one of these threads. Ask for advice and the answer is always just argumentative non sense that won't work in my mysterious unnamed country.
>>65025186retourne sur jvc, tu pues la cité
>>65022780Man I haven’t watched that guy in YEARS
>>65025186Why so many rage for a simple question?
>>65025368Why such an abundance of broken English in all of your post?
>>65025575I already tell you that i'm not from the land of the free and braves with freedom fries, so I simply ask for advices concerning a product. I do not understand why such hostility from somes. I believed that board was full of informed users, not edgy people promoting killing.
>>65025768Informed users that actually own and shoot real guns that you went straight to insulting when it was explained to you how the objective reality of defensive force works. You can fuck right off.
>>65025845But it's you who insulted me first, read the posts again, I was always polite and only wanted for informations. You wanna larp as a virtual though guy, it's pathetic.It's like talking about avoiding killing people make you nervous for some reason.
>>65022441Those .22 pellets are absolutely lethal with enough speed behind them. Those big marble sized less lethal ones are too big and slow but its possible in a freak accident I guess. Pain compliance is generally a bad idea for defense that being said pepper spray is about the best you can do and miles above these guns.
>>65025934Thank you anon, which are the most efficients between pepper spray bullets and CS gas bullets?
>>65025968I would think the pepper spray rounds though you are way better off with just a canister of the stuff. You still need decent shot placement to deliver the pepper rounds to the face where with the canister you get a constant stream. You could also take out an eye or something with the rounds and end up sued into oblivion.
>>65025193What about a sufficiently long and sharp stick? Would that work as deterrence?
>>65025929You asked for informations, people spoonfed you, you brushed their advice off because AI told you so and so, you got called a faggotDoes that make sense to you now? Maybe the other frog anon was right.
I'd get a Huben GK1 6.35mm they can be tuned to produce about the same power as a 25 ACP
>>65028320He's desperate to not kill anyone which means he's restrained to less power than throwing a brick by hand.
>>65025768>Killing is edgy>Come as an unwelcome outsider to the American weapons for killing forum and complain about Americans, weapons, and killingY'know what I'm sorry I gave you any decent advice to begin with I hope you actually lose whatever defense scenario you're thinking of you deserve it.
>>65030629He's probably black or brown so he could drink milk and the smelly farts would attract tigers to his mud hut to act as guards
