Half the internet says this is a totally acceptable alternative to a real proper registered and tax stamp'd NFA item. The other half says this is playing with fire and you're a real cowboy if you mess with this shit and one day everyone is going to wake up a felon. Both groups say it's the other side that's being irrational not to mention clearly a nogunz ESL thirdie.Personally I think some people who know more than all of us combined are stockpiling 16" uppers counting down the moment when they can sell them for 10x what they're worth because everyone is panicking. But I digress. Perhaps we can meet in the middle and call it a potential misdemeanor that exists in a quantum superposition of felon and law abiding citizen?
>>65023593Why would 16" uppers ever increase 10x in cost?
>>65023593>meet in the middleNo. No more compromises.
>>65023599Which one is cheaper: an overpriced component that makes your gun legal right now, or prison?
>>65023593I belong to the half of the internet that calls you a cuck for complying.
>>65023613OP here. Depends, what if I derive pleasure by being used by big burly men as a fleshlight with a pulse?
>>65023621It's funny you should mention that (actual op here), there was a guy whose specialty was the sociology of prisons or something, and he went into a prison and ended up being the entire prison wing's pass around bitch, and he said it was the best experience of his life. I think his name was (You).But realistically they'd probably stick you in a prison ward full of bottoms and then what. Then you'd really regret your decision to have an AR pistol with a brace.
>>65023593The thing is I agree in principle with the idea that something you put together yourself, and then shoulder, and can shoot without hurting yourself while shouldered, is probably really a rifle and likely will be deemed as such by a judge in the future. But that's might maybe (who am I kidding nothing ever happens) be cancelled out by the fact that collecting $0 in tax isn't actually collecting revenue, and if the military needs short barreled rifles the prepared citizen does too, so the whole stupid registry for those shouldn't exist anymore.
>>65023593>this is a totally acceptable alternative to a real proper registered and tax stamp'd NFA item.A pistol brace will never be as good as a real stock, the same way an FRT will never be as good as real full auto, but it doesn't need to be as good; just good enough.>if you mess with this shit and one day everyone is going to wake up a felon.What? If those dogshit pistol braces ever become illegal, you can just remove them from your gun. The buffer tube special sucks, but you wouldn't get arrested.>I think some people who know more than all of us combined are stockpiling 16" uppers counting down the moment when they can sell them for 10x what they're worth because everyone is panicking.Anon, there will be no shortage of legal barrels. If people needed a longer barrel, they could go with a 16", 18", 20", 22", or 24".
>>65023593Just don’t live in a liberal area with a Prosecutor who can’t wait to throw the book at you. Also, it doesn’t help that Reddit fags constantly write to the ATF to ask “UMMM IS THIS HECKIN’ LEGAL? I FEEL LIKE SUCH A CRIMINAL HEHE.” Then, the opinion letter of some random Bloke, not legally binding in a court case, is shown about as the new letter of the law. Also, what usually happens is they tack on some bullshit firearm charges when you break a federal law because it increases the federal sentencing guidelines and also alleges dangerousness or something to that effect which can give mandatory minimum prison time.
>>65023593>Follow the law to a T>"Ha! Take that government!"This is how you people sound
I SBR my guns because I think braces look like total shit. Simple as.> I think some people who know more than all of us combined are stockpiling 16" uppers counting down the moment when they can sell them for 10x what they're worth What the fuck are you smoking
>>65024001You can do whatever you want if you dont post about it on the internet
>>65023593its not an issue anyone, especially after that last rulingstrying to CC or open carry one though? THATS how you get into trouble
>>65024036Nah, it's free, takes a week and I don't have to be paranoid. Fuck it.
>>65023618But anon, you're complying.
actual gun boomers are battered housewives who have the 'dont rock the boat' mentalty. younger gun people know its a use it or lose system when EVERYONE had a braced pistol with an FRT its much less likely to get banned.
>>65023593NFA isn't real braces are for fags.Imagine paying the govt to click a piece of plastic onto something.
>>65023593Enumerated rights blow you out of the water. If the ATF can't tell explicitly then they don't have the power or authority, nor does the state or federal government so the power and authority rest with the people. Your strawman about both sides complying and being cucks is destroyed by actual law, knowledge, and supreme court president. The only problem is if you're a pussy who doesn't plan for the state trying to legally railroad you by having friends, a reliable lawyer who WILL defend you, and the will to not give up because fighting for your rights is le hard.
If you're in Virginia, you're fucked either way: Option A: - sbr before July 1st, then get a knock 3 years from now because they're on the registry and you've now told them everything you have and they ban them. Option B: - Hope sbr's and suppressors get removed from the nfa via lawsuit. Keep the brace for now. Manufacture one anyways fuck Virginia good luck figuring that one out. Option C: - Supreme Court gets off their lazy asses and do something. Doubt itOption D: - the ATF's opinion recently gets redacted because they had some dipshit agent making statements he shouldn't of a few weeks ago. Goes back to being a gray area until Option B/C is a thing and they get sued to become common use. The retards saying to register them I think are Fed's/low t. Last election cycle sleepy Joe and the atf gave people ultimatums to register them. No one complied. Now zion Don and congress did the same thing in a round about way and we're supposed to? The whole thing is stupid anyways. 26" oal with a >16" barrel is what the atf considers concealable, so just make that the new definition of a sbr. That removes like 80% of "sbr's" from the registry, and makes the most sense to me if you really want to be a controlling schitzo. The whole thing is just bureaucrats and commies being low T anyways. > waahhhhhh the heckin people have to follow what I say as I make it up, im a heckin gun janny IM IMPORTANT AND MY JOB IS REAL.
I'm bumping because you know I'm right. Sbr's only make sense for niche rifles with no brace options. Most new braces are fine.
>>65024058except your state is flipping blue like all the others and first thing on the docket is an AWB with no grandfather clause that also includes a total ban on all NFA items. it was nice of your to make their job easier
>>65023593Braces are for differently abled persons. Shorter barrels are also a benefit for them as it shifts the center back so its easier for them to use.>but youre not a crippleIts for guests.
>>65023613SBR length uppers are usually cheaper because they use less material. Retard
>>65026672>thinks a total AWB and NFA ban with zero grandfathering isn't going to include pistol length rifles>"teehee look how clever I am using my braced PSA 10.5 that I put on my credit card and transferred through an FFL, they'll never know!"brown retard schizo
>>65026693Oh right, I forgot the market value of things is exactly, unconditionally, and universally indexed to the physical mass of the material used.
>>65026845I'm glad to have reminded you
>>65026710Urban yankee hands typed this post. Why register anything when it's about to be taken off the nfa via the Court's? Sounds like cope to me.
>>65026672Haha, yeah dude!
>>65027105>gives away all ur information for a 25$ stock>25$ stock on that gun Damn bro didn't know you bought that with klarna.
>>65027114nta but not knowing what a CTR stock is is one of the most tourist things Ive seen here in a while
You're all sick people.I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.I put a curse upon you all.Fuck yamudda
>>65023593>use tailhook made entirely of metalcons>probably couldnt buttstroke someone as hard as with a stockpros>can carry it around like a pistol>because legally it is>no atf if used in a sd situation>no atf malarky at allGee I wonder what ill do>no>i wont
>>65025106Yes officer, of course I am. Nothing to see here, now fuck off.
>>65023859Braces are pretty much stocks and the mp5 frt actually achieves a ROF that is FASTER than a stock select fire mp5
>>65027140Nta and havent touched a ctr but my btr is awesome and didnt require any paperwork. Im probably carrying it to my grave until I get one of those H&R Car15 braces and a second lower for a retro build, in which case I'll still use the btr every day on my modern upper
>>65024001>I SBR my guns because I think braces look like total shit. Simple as.based.
>>65027140>knowing an almost 20 year old stock makes me a tourist You're confused plebbitor. Also why would one register them when they're being sued off the nfa as we speak? A 0$ tax means you ain't gotta do shit buddy but have patience. >>65028390>getting a cuck stamp >based /k/ has fallen so hard since 2012. It just seems like the gender confused kids of eglin employees post here now.
>>65028657do people genuinely believe that elgin AFB is a secret hive of bots and it's not just a shitty geolocation database putting every .mil IP address at one generic location? you probably think the tiananmen square pasta thing actually kicks chinese people off the internet too
>>65028669Yawn, lurk more
>>65028657no you didn't know what a ctr was you tourist gunless twit, that's why you acted like it was bad and $25
>>65028657>tinfoil faggotryoh, carry on then sir, or ma'am.
>>65029188>not getting a b5 bravo or just running a classic stock>or, you know, an sba3 that's more comfy They regularly sold those for 30$ up until 2020.Ngmi
>>65028669>do people genuinely believe that elgin AFB is a secret hive of bots and it's not just a shitty geolocation database putting every .mil IP address at one generic location?yes, but you shouldn't think of them as people.
>>65031144Yeah that's why I said bots
>>65025107This is the way. I’m tired of people acting like the ATF can even enforce the law if it wasn’t something that predated the departments very existence, especially if every single gun owner has whatever item is in question
>samefagging>in the year of our lord, the current year + 10 1-800-come-on-nowAtleast try to refute my claims instead of throwing a government employee tantrum.
>>65023593braces are gaySBR it or stick to 14.5" w/ pin+welded muzzle device
>>65031388How often does the atf just show up and nail a guy for having a sbr and nothing else? I was told and made to understand these kinda things were always secondary to the actual crimes.
>>65032333yes. braces are gay and the mark of a man led by fear and obedience. Just put a real fucking stock on it like you wanted to anyways.
>>65032337Does this scenario in your head involve cucking by doing the nfa paperwork? :-)
>>65032368>unprovoked belching of some faggot's sexual fantasiesnever change, /k/.
>>65032335Probably more than pistol braces, because there's multiple states now banning nfa items with no grandfather clause. :-)
>>65032401>"""""Probably"""""just put a real stock on your gun.
>>65032456People will when the tax/unconstitutional registry is removed :-). If you were a big boy like you keep saying you are, surely you didn't do the paper work and just put a stock on it right?
>>65032490I would never ever never that would be heckin illegalrino! Not wholesome chungus at all.
>>65032500Oh so you're based, carry on. I thought you were the guy sperging out about boot licking and doing paper work for no legal reason.
>>65023593>like to go innawoods>like.me long guns>rifles and shotguns banned from where i like to go go innawoods>handguns permitted with a CCL>have a CCL>have an AR15 pistol>'imple as
>>65033550only acceptable use of the cuck brace, frankly.
>>65033550that's kobayashi and she's a dragon fucker
>>65033575faggot.
The brace/sbr is truely a test of whether you're a midwit. The answer will always be brace until they're removed from the nfa. Or just dont fool with any paper work because a 0$ tax implies they aren't regulated, therefore the paperwork is null and void. I don't have to register my car if it's not being used on the road. Why? Because there's no fucking tax associated with it. I don't understand why you fucking midwits willingly create a registry for these people but whatever. That's like the dot going after you because you have enough land to drive a vehicle around with no registration and not paying tax.
>>65033587dude just put a real stock on your gun. no one gives a fuck.
>>65033591I don't even own a pistol with a brace, I'm a 20" Chad.
>>65033598>I don't even own a pistol with a bracelmao same. :)
>>65033599Funny, now post hands.
>>65033681>shrill, impotent demandsyou have no authority over me, cuck brace boy. Add me to the long list of people who do not take you seriously.
>>65033587>uh actually I'm not DRIVING I'm TRAVELLING so I don't need insurance!
>>65033687>i followed the law to a T >I registered my firearm needlessly >that makes you the cuckSure thing boss
>>65033715who said anything about doing the paperwork? you're dumb as shit dude.
>>65033728Why argue then? Just read above.
>>65033738What argument? I told you I had no pistol with a brace and you started sperging out, friggin idiot.
