Do soldiers in the military have any countermeasures of protocols for dealing with flame weapons?
>>65023846So it was the Iranians who flooded this site with inane twitter screencap bait threads.
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>>65023862Worse, Iranian bots.>>65023846yes, turns out flame weapons do hilarious things when you puncture the fuel tank.
>>65023862the I in AIPAC stands for Iranian
>>65023862It was unironic Iran shills and pro-Iran discord trannies. There’s a kiwifarms post about pro-Iran discord trannies shilling Iran on Twitter and 4chan, for free of course.
>>65023862There is a shit ton of pro Iranian garbage flooding social media. Normies are falling for it sadly.
>>65023970Normies aren’t falling for it. The AI algorithm is pushing it because the retardness of it is increasing engagement. So you basically have one retard squealing and kvetching, then person B, C and D call him a retard. Suddenly person E and F back up retard OP’s claim which causes even more responses to retarded shit. It’s a never-ending drama cycle. And they want you to use Twitter more to post because you’re exposed to more bullshit and ads and also data scraping to be sold. Every fucking retarded nigger who uses Twitter is a subhuman.
>>65023995My neighbor is a normie and falling for it.
>>65023846>Do soldiers in the military have any countermeasures of protocols for dealing with flame weapons?Bullets, grenades, the guy on the other end of the radio with all the big noisy shit at their disposal.Yeah, all kinds of stuff basically.
>>65024000You live in California, and your opinion is irrelevant.
>>65023970The only 'normies' falling for it are redditors who were already subscribed to american diabolism and the subhumans that still watch american late-night television (which gets spammed the fuck out of your recommended on youtube if you don't have an account) it really just revolves around the trump media cycle, iran, ukraine, russia, china, nothing that happens in the world matters unless trump just made a tweet about it
>>65024014I live in Arizona.
>>65024048I've seen a definite uptick in people sharing anti-war, quasi-pro-Iran shit on IG. These are people I know, not anonymous strangers. Not near the level as when BLM was going hard but significant.I think it is hard to be pro-Iran for a progressive but they do revel in supposed failures and losses on the American side.
>>65023970>>65024062There is this weird pro-Iranian line of thinking in a lot of Democrats that I don't understand but has been around for a while.
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>>65023846Cover yourself in bread
>>65024070Leftists like anyone and anything that opposes the west. Russia is literally the only exception to this and it's only because they blame it for orange hitler's win in 2016.
>>65024257Stop, drop, and bread?
>>65024000>>65024048My uncle is a 65 year old Berniefag and I'm watching this happen to him in real timeEvery fucking time I visit him now he's telling me shit he's hearing on MeidasTouch about how Iran is kicking our teeth inI've got another aunt and uncle that are equally annoying with the most basic bitch Fox News takesThis is not some "my dad works at Nintendo" thought experiment, these are all otherwise wonderful people who have been there for me all my lifeI have no idea what to do
>>65024266Explain how the nu-right's enabling of Russia has made the US stronger, especially considering they're sharing intel with Iran right now.Go on, I'll wait for whatever dumb whataboutism you shit out.
>>65024520nta but your premise is false from "enabling of Russia" and every nitpick example of this you're going to come up with is counteracted by Tucker Carlson declaring "Fuck Trump, fuck Israel, and I hope Russia and China conquer us"
>>65024520>the nu-right's enabling of RussiaFirst you're gonna have to explain what this even means.
>>65023846Flamethrowers usually have much less range than firearms or other weapons.>>65024520>nu-Kill yourself
>>65024527actually afaik armies kinda sleep on flame retardant materials because there's like laws n sheeit about incendiary weapons, and if you're being attacked with a flamethrower you're probably also being bombed or shot so it's just not a huge concern for the armies of the world. it was a big problem among navies until the falklands because they tended to use army-like gear, and it took actual conflict to realize that being near fires in that stuff kills you worse than simply being on fire (since it melts into your flesh and is harder to remove without hurting you worse on top of creating toxic gases of its own and leeching poison into what little unburnt flesh you have left) so every navy switched to nomex tunics and slacks. maybe finally the army will move away from cheap poly garbage if a couple americans get set alight>>65024502stop consorting with normies except for sexual
>>65024527Are you implying Tucker is a liberal? What retardation is this?
>>65024502People that grew up in a Walter Cronkite-type era just can not handle the deluge of tribal bullshit that they're exposed to daily. They are set up to filter and ignore it, they treat it like The News.
>>65024070it's much simpler and stupider than that, it's just anything the other team likes is bad and anything they hate must be good
>>65024543t*cker doesn't support the God Emperor. He's a leftypol shill.
>>65024070>a while.How long is "a while"?
>>65024550I'm trans btw
>>65024520>nu-rightThose are just yesterday's liberals. Anyone that believes in principles from the Enlightenment is a leftist.
>>65024560>>65024550>>65024543There is no adequate political term for the kind of person who is so right wing that he wishes the Soviet Union won the cold war and killed all the jews and womenI'm not enough of an insincere finger pointer to call this kind of person a leftist either but it's baffling that their worldview is basically>kill nogs>kill gayz>death to America>Iran is based>North Korea is based>Hitler was based>Stalin was basedLike I wish this was a fuckin strawman I'm assembling but it feels like it's now 20% of all people on the internet
>>65023846usually you shoot the guy wielding it
>>65023917post the link please. I want it
>>65024576>>65023917>google kiwifarms Iran>there's a 1,200 page thread >disgunbgood.gif>scroll through the last couple pages>everyone is perfectly rational and dunking on Iran That's itI'm fucking doneI've been bemoaning for a while that the internet keeps getting more insane and retarded, everywhereNow I've run into a hive of sanity and normalcyon Kiwi Fucking FarmsWhat did they chase all their fucking schizos out to everywhere else on the internet?
>>65023995Yep. It's basically true for every social media site in general but twitter is the worst of them all in that regard. The accounts you follow etc. barely have anything to do with your feed anymore which is just an endless conveyer belt of retarded hot takes and ragebait. Overall its nothing but a giant machine doing nothing but making people miserable and angry.
>>65024568It's basically just contrarianism
You'le raughingyou won't raugh no mole when China starts deriveling these babies to Ilan
>>65024575Ouch
>>65024062>>65024502yeah, unfortunately you get a large enough mass of shills to spin a narrative and drown out anything else, like counter arguments or even unrelated topics, real normies feel peer pressured into accepting and adopting it because it seems like common consensus, and seems like the only thing anyone's talking about aside from the trump media cycle, it's largely the consequences of politics becoming entertainment. browsing youtube while incognito and watch history off, the recommended mostly shows (in order of frequency),>one of three late night shows>MediasTouch>The Military Show>Asmongold>misc news channels with the aforementioned trump cycle>50/50 of pro-ukraine and anti-ukraine rando channelsso while it's mostly left narratives getting pushed there's also right stuff in there too. these algorithms are just tuned to shove witless folks into one of two paths of political obsession
>>65023970Its people with TDS.I hate Trump too, but I aint defending Ayatollahs.Really the best outcome is if they all kill eachother. Let Iran take revenge rain holy cleansing fire on the wests leadership.
>>65024062>>65023970They're not pro-Iran, retards, they're anti-war. The war in Iraq had protests against it in America, and thhis war is even less popular than that one.
>>65023970>Normies are falling for it sadly.I prefer it this way because it makes the shid and fard even more delicious once the inevitable US victory happens. It happened after venezuela got buck broken.
>>65024656>The war in Iraq had protests against it in America, and thhis war is even less popular than that one.Yet every boomer and zoomer I talk to thinks Iraq was a bullshit coverup job in retrospect and everyone I talk to is in favor of the recent Iran conflict playing itself out. Curious.
>>65024715>everyone I talk to is in favor of the recent Iran conflict playing itself out.Talk to more people.
>>65024701>once the inevitable US victory happensBut Trump said he already won, 4 weeks ago in fact.
>>65024725Isn't that highly dependent on what you consider the goals? The US isn't taking massive losses but they haven't managed to completely neutralize Iran either.
>>65024781Trump himself can't state consistent goals and keep to them, so of course the American public aren't sure of those goals either.
>>65024725The actual proof of this war is that social media and democratic societies are completely incompatible with each other when trying to do literally anything that requires some sort of unity or cohesion. Far beyond any military lesson here, China is noticing that western society actually can't stomach even the most simple of wars, so how will they respond to Taiwan? Either we rebuild cohesion as a society or we bicker between ourselves to the end because of algorithms
>>65025469There is something to what you say and I do not think it bodes well for us.
>>65025578Social media has fostered politics as an identity and tribe and a common square that spreads on emotion and hatred. These things existed in the past obviously but to a smaller degree than what we have today. What's more is that people see this swamp of misery and cherish it as a third limb. You cannot take away social media without people acting like they're having to stop taking cocaine, which is a ridiculous metaphor until you actually look into the studies on what social media screentime does to the brain. I don't think it bodes well for us either because there isn't an easy off ramp to an addiction at the societal level. Just look at the reactions to legislativas trying to restrict social media to kids, who are scientifically proven to be mindfucked the most from social media. Pandemonium. The end of civil rights. 1984. Even if it's scientifically shown to be an objectively terrible thing to the mind, people will actively protect it like it's a part of them...because it is. Social media is now closer to people's identity than their hometown or ethnicity. Your algorithm is you if you let it be, which people are overwhelmingly willing to. It's not completely fucked, people are starting to notice how shit it is, but it's probably the actual biggest threat to america today. Many think-tanks put American domestic political tensions as a, if not THE top threat to national security for this year. They'll probably be proven right. Don't ever think for a second that this is normal or truly precedented for society to be this way in this way. Only if you recognize the issue can it then be fixed.
>>65025969>>65025469Anyone who hates on social media just wants to go back to the old days of government-approved, censored, corporate-media. You're frustrated that you can't easily control the narrative on social media. The old democratic model depended on the political and economic elites using old media to shape the views and opinions of the public, telling them who to vote for, what issues the elites wanted the public to pay attention to, or NOT to pay attention to. Social media is actually a huge step in democratising public discourse, and the old political elites don't like that.
>>65025986Instead of strawmanning you, I simply went to Facebook.At the top of my feed there's a post from NASA's official account today, about the people being sent to orbit the moon for the first time in half a century, 48 hours from now.There's approximately 3,000 replies to it.Virtually all of them are from flat earthers, proclaiming how there was never a moon landing in the first place and everything is CGI.
>>65025993>Virtually all of them are from flat earthers, proclaiming how there was never a moon landing in the first place and everything is CGI.And how do this affect you?
>>65025993>Virtually all of them are from flat earthersMore and more often I'm reminded of why, as a species, we're not going to make it. And if this is who we are, we don't fucking deserve to make it either. Hopefully the next meteor comes soon.
>>65025991The old media elites have eagerly sunk their teeth into an environment that makes them more important than ever. Thanks to the democratization they can platform themselves as more legitimate and reliable when they themselves shift to meet the new demands. You act like social media is an enlightenment era fantasy brought true, where the strong can be brought down to make room for the weak. That was certainly the original idea, back when the world wide web was seen in a more hopeful idealistic sense. But what of it now? You can't just say the past was bad therefore the now is better. Of course it's better in some ways, that's what progress is. The question is if the pros outweigh the cons. I don't think so, even if it's a monumental question to weigh. The average democratized citizen who browses social media knows less, adopts a cynical mind that conflicts with requirements that a democracy asks for in a citizen, and checks out of society. Why care about America if Instagram says it's all shit anyways? Why care about my neighbors if they are different than me and my tribe? Why go outside when I have all I need on my phone?Tensions on media existed even then, ITV versus BBC really did advance the idea of what journalism was meant to do, along with people like Robin Days. But if you go too far you end up with the swamp that we have today.I'm frustrated that we as a society can't seem to advance anymore in our collective ideas. Your wish for a democratized public discourse has already come true, and it will likely stay true for a good while. But stay aware of what comes with it, because everything comes with a price.
>>65025991If that were true then there wouldve been no anti vietnam war sentiment and Kronkite would never have called the war unwinnable
>>65024635>le scawy chinabot metoditchka againlol
>>65025997>how does people being too retarded to understand basic orbital mechanics affect the success of an advanced society that requires intelligent people to run it.
>>65025997these niggers vote, anon
>>65023868That makes a fun scene or game mechanic, but it's usually less dramatic in reality, with the pressure in a different tank than the fuel.
>>65024593>Now I've run into a hive of sanity and normalcy>on Kiwi Fucking FarmsThey're probably not on Iranian shill's radar.Or maybe they divide the work and Russia shills on kiwifarms and Iran does here?
>>65023846Better flame weapons.
>>65023970Normies are just Anti-Republican and Anti-Israel. Iran happens to be both of those things and incentivized to make propaganda mocking both, since they're being bombed by them. China is also joining in for lulz.
>>65026222Normies are increasingly voting R and see D voters as invaders in their homelands.
>>65024731This is a perfect encapsulation of how pilpul works. Change the argument to a vague implication, and try to bait people into arguing about what you're implying. >>65024793Nah you just hope people fall for your shilling. Bombings will continue until the IRGC is dismantled and the new puppet government is set up.
>>65026059There are multiple elites in American society, dingus. Even they have disagreements.>>65025969>Social media has fostered politics as an identity and tribeThis isn't new at all. 19th century America was much the same with unregulated, party-owned news.Algorithms just amplify the effects of social isolation, but isolation is preferable to forced interaction. >>65026236Your definition of "normie" is completely unworkable.
>>65024725>CBS>YougovWow it's actual fake news
>>65026252You are a shill for the antigun party on a gun board, a shill for the anti-American party on an American website, a shill for the global south party on an overwhelmingly white board, and an unconvincing one for all of that. Where did your life go so wrong? What were you promised, that when all the men were dead you would have your share of the treasure?
>>65026247>and the new puppet government is set up.But Trump said he already achieved regime change
>>65026260>You are a shill for the antigun party on a gun boardKYS. Blind accusations deserve only that response. Here's your (You).
>>65024656And yet this war is not generating even 1% of the protests as 2003 Iraq did
>>65026343>>65024656I was around during the Iraq debacle and there was a certain optimistic innocence to the protestsPeople against the Iraq War were, for better or worse, largely operating from>bring our troops home safe>stop wasting money overseasProtestors now, there's a sizeable cohort that make no such overtures, they literally chant>death to America, death to the zionist entity, rest in power AyatollahThere were a lot of arguments in 2003 but I don't recall any westerner just openly operating from a premise of "I hope Saddam fucking wins and kills all the American scum"(video enclosed from Minneapolis yesterday)
>>65026373The final reward of leftism is your enemies teaching your children that your country must be destroyed for the sake of those who hate you.
>>65026373>Minneapolisthe entire state of minnesota is fucked
>>65026373I think that video is from London, given the traffic lights and the Socialist Worker placards. They had an Al-Quds day rally a couple of weeks ago that brought out all the lefties who love the idea of getting into bed with a repressive theocratic state.
>>65026180It's not the pressure, it's the contents.
>>65025991Consider the possibility that people in this freer brave new world just do the legwork of self-psyopping all by themselves. Or that any position possible falls in line with the desires of some elites somewhere here or abroad. Complaining about immigration? Russian discord-sowing talking point. Complaining about tariffs? CCP script. Cheering on the war? Mindraped by the USG. And on and on. If anything we have just opened ourselves up to meddling by a wider array of elites (nascent and otherwise).I will agree that we have a more chaotic electorate today thanks to this profusion of ideas but I am not sure I would say it is wiser or more intelligent. And that chaotic nature can only prove to be a weakness in the face of opposition from authoritarian states which practice an enforced unity.
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>>65023862no, you fell for some twitter reposter's baitposting, and these threads get dozens of replies because it makes you madthey do this every time [current political thing] happens
>>65026247>Nah you just hope people fall for your shilling.who's shilling? i remember thinking we were gonna have a good term when it trump's whole thing was being a peacekeeper and cleaning up a bunch of shit, and now he's done a 180, stop acting like this is what we were promised
>>65024051Same thing at this point
>>65026373The Gaza genocide and American & EU complicity in it has radicalized a lot of normie zoomers and millennials. Between that and zoomers in western countries feeling like they have no future (replaced by AI or immigrants, will never own a house or get married, social security will probably collapse when they reach retirement age etc) there is very little public goodwill left towards the state in most western countries.
>>65024549It's this. Guarantee if Biden and the Dems took the stance of "Ukraine isn't our problem, we need to focus on issues at home" the Republicans and Trump would be screaming for direct intervention
>>65027878Maybe in Phoenix, I live in the mountains.
>>65026373You kinda throw away all goodwill when you bomb 150 girls and come out and show no sympathy for it and deny that you had any blame in it. Add the Gaza genocide and how every person can see how fucked the relationship with Israel is while all politicians seem to fellate the country while the average person has bleaker and bleaker prospects each year. Thats the reason why the far left and far right are gaining ground.
>>65027981>goodwill and sympathyyou never had any to begin with, now that the mask is coming off you're just exposing yourselves as the enemies of the nation and the remainders of the functional state.
>>65027981You don't live in a western country and you have no idea how we think, kek
>>65027940What mountains you larping retard? The uninhabited desert mountains, or the uninhabited southeastern mountains perhaps? Northern AZ isn't mountainous.>t. lived there for 3 years>>65027879>>65027981You niggers threw away pretty much all goodwill you had with normie zoomers when you did the mass attacks, rapes, and kidnappings of Israeli civilians unprompted, and then gloated about it. I genuinely don't know a single person at this point who gives a shit about palestine, even if they hate israel
>>65027988>>65027991>>65028002I'm not pro israel lol. Just responding to that guy who asked why there are suddenly more crazies out there who don't hide their power level.
>>65024725https://archive.org/details/pra-IZ1257Chttps://archive.org/details/pra-IZ1257DA fun listen, even if parts 1 and 2 seem to be gone. College radio station (Berkley, naturally) at the start of Gulf War 1 uncritically broadcasting Iraqi propaganda as fact and claiming the US Air Force was taking heavy losses, plus an early appearance by Michael Moore.
>>65023846Flame throwers have short range and run out of fuel in a few seconds. Also high risk of accidents.I guess the Iranian mean they will hit Kharg with missiles if the US take it, the place is a tinderbox of oil and gas pipes and tanks. I think the island if just large enough for US servicemen to be able to take positions far enough from the oil infrastructure without burning the issue would be the fumes. It won't be enjoyable being at the very best 1000 yards away from a massive oil and gas fire.
>>65025469>>65025578>>65025969>>65025991>>65026024>>65027160There is no way to tell if anything you read online is from a real person or a bot. US media/tech elites do not care about this anymore and it's only going to get worse. If I was China I would wait until a democrat gets into office and launch an attack. Imagine how easy it would be to turn Americans against each other. Just shitting out videos/images of Americans dying, how futile it is, BS political history about Taiwan and how it belongs to China. Imagine all the right-wing figures who would shill against America just so they could get back into power. What would Fox do? What would Tucker do? Even if it was a life or death situation and would lead to American collapse if they lost people would still take a paycheck to call to end the war on China's terms.
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>>65028454You're right Anon. Being on this site too much does make me question that everyone here should be allowed to vote.
>>65027023Ignition of a shot fuel tank is unlikely without incendiary ammo.
>>65024568I don't think you can say they really fit into left or right wing all that well. I'd call them a Dirty Centrist, with extra emphasis on "dirty."
>>65029685You may not be aware of this, but the flamethrower is its own ignition source.
>>65030858Pilot lights went of fashion in WW1.The operator is in control of the ignition.
>>65023846They probably do, I mean fire its been in human civilisation since forever so they migth have, also if you see a guy whit a flametrower you probably should have some distance to shoot him, if you r to close I dont know what you can do :P
>>65027991How is living in hell?(exept for israel)
>>65025969I’d go one step higher (or lower in tech terms) and focus on broaching the “message” of the medium itself.
>>65023876i wish that were real. it would be so funny.
>>65024266That's because they're too retarded to realize "orange hitler" won then and in 2024 because he got the vote of the blue collar union workers, which the leftists have been taking for granted for decades.
>>65024593Shit. You made me look too and they definitely keep the tards and BRICSite down and out.
>>65028454In all fairness the most solid counterargument against the government of the people is talking to said people.
