The Avro Arrow was so important to Canadians not because the Arrow was a good plane, but because it represented Canadian industrial and military independence from the rest of NATO, the US more specifically.Prove me wrong.
the consensus view, how daring
>>65024292They really should stick to maple syrup and back bacon. Just sayin'.
>>65024292not so much independence as much as any source of national identity and industry at all. now basically makes nothing itself beyond raw resources. it used to have capacity for actual domestic engineering and design but they shoot themselves in the foot at every possible opportunity, not to mention the liberal government running through country straight into the ground over the past 4 decades.
>>65024310maybe if you would let quebec do anything the country would make anything other than raw aluminum
>>65024292>leafs design the arrow>soviets steal the blueprints and design the mig-25>burgers design the f-15 in response to the mig-25Really makes you think.
>>65024339this uflly this the leaf program was COMPROMISED and the mig-25 is literally identical to the arrow thats why they had to destroy every arrow and no one in nato could make a competing plane until the f15 Active HARM-V
>>65024318They did suck a greeat job on the space shuttle arm. They designed it all by dem selves! They even had a sticker!
>>65024364It's telling that everything notable about c*nada actually comes from Quebec and Quebec alone.
>>65024292The Myth of the Arrow is more akin to the "Lost Cause" Myth of the American South, as in a distortion of history motivates by politics.The government has used the Myth of the Arrow to instill anti-Americanism in its citizens for decades.>not because the Arrow was a good planeIt was, however, a great plane, at least as far as interceptors go, and certainly leagues safer than trash like the F-104, which somehow saw use into the 21st century.
>>65024310What about Bombardier?
>>65024569Unfortunately the contemporary of the Arrow was not the F-104, rather it was the F-4.
>>65024569> It was, however, a great planeIt was, in fact, not.
>>65024292It being cancelled also destroyed the military air industry of Canada. Bombardier is the only major one left in Canada that I can name and they don't make bombers despite their name.Similar things happened in the UK, most of their aeronautical industry gone because they were bribed by Americans to buy their stuff. Now they need to work with other countries to even dessign a gen4 jet.Only France and Sweden kept their industrial independance as far as being able to solo dessign a gen4 jet. Who knows with how USA act right now, maybe more in the west will try to restart their industries but then again only took a single generation of strategic bribes to kill it again.
>>65024387Manitoba is good with wheat.
>>65024570Great snow machines.
>>65025114>strategic bribesIt was called The Brain Drain. Engineers getting far better offers in America. Wiki it, not all is as insidious as you pretend.
>>65024318They certainly make for a lot of brown imports.
>>65025114>Only France and Sweden kept their industrial independance as far as being able to solo dessign a gen4 jet.The Gripen is a cut and paste job of imported components. In terms of industrial indepence, France is light years ahead of Sweden.
>>65025114The US cannot bribe other countries into being worthless retards that don't think far ahead, they gotta get there all by themselves first. The US MIC has kept certain industries elsewhere alive despite their best efforts even, like BAE, FN, Sig, Cz, etc, all getting lifelines from the US.
>>65024292Its important to Canadian Boomers because of CBC documentary which fellated their ego and nothing elseI say this as a leaf who loves king and country and thinks the Arrow was cool as hell and should have been adopted>>65025075it was actuallypeople shit on it now because of the cultural swing against all the boomer kvetching about its cancellationnot a wunderwaffe or anything but it would have fit the bill
>>65026999Ultimately what doomed the Arrow was budget considerations, lack of possible foreign sales, the move away from interceptor-based deterrent, and the fact that the F-106 would become operational in June 1959 with both comparable performance and economy of scale behind it.
>>65024292looks like a shit javelin
>>65024292>Prove me wrong.make me care
Why do people think the Arrow was this super interceptor? I basically would have been a leaf F-106.
>>65025289It's one of the whitest provinces, the language acts like a natural barrier to pajeets
>>65027540They’re huffing copium.
>>65024292>independent You mean "funded by the US/UK and so compromised by the KGB they knew what the product was going to be before the factory workers did?" Then yeah, independent.
>>65025145Its always posible to keep a project going whether it be by training a new generation of aerospace engineers or getting good engineers from overseas. The issue here is the canadian military was bamboozled and bribed into buying american stuff until their companies went bankrupt or shrunk.
