Let's talk about nuclear strategy and nuclear weapons.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtUobr7xGz4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEjB5UrOqwU&list=PLKWSTkN5DHshwmNQ4QlzYeBoF4d54qcZ-&index=1
>>65025477>Let's talk about nuclear strategy and nuclear weapons.Done.
>>65025483>Israel and India still exist.no
Does oppenheimer still visit /k/ or is this thread pointless?
>>65025483A bit more to the left please, we dont need judea
>>65025483>Israel conveniently sparedHahaha not very subtle
>>65025487This. In fact if we just nuked israel and india the world world be much better.
>>65025483You can remove turkey and everything from Egypt to Morocco not included. You can also go from Iran and remove everything up to China (included?). That would greatly benefit humanity
>>65025477how much fallout would air bursts generate?
>>65025487>>65025490>>65025491>>65025494>the think anything within another few hundred miles would be spared by something that bigHoly shit anons. Pissrael not being completely vaporized merely means that with enough radiation protection or time you'd be able to go and take a shit on the molten glass that were once their cities and towns. There'd be near zero survivors anywhere around it. That strike just means their suffering lasts far longer.
>>65025477here's my nuclear strategy for world peace
>>65025501Reality is that any explosion large enough to obliterate that much land would be larger than the impact that killed the dinosaurs, and thus would kill all Humans on Earth, along with 99% of terrestrial animals.
>>65025498>how much fallout would air bursts generate?Depends on the bomb type, though always less then a ground burst. But the crude shitty pure fission bombs of the type a developing power would be most likely to use also have a lot more fallout then efficient stuff having some energy come from fusion. It'd be more of a consideration. And plutonium itself is ludicrously toxic, so even a squib of a plutonium bomb would still be a dirty bomb mess.
>>65025501The depicted crater appears to roughly ten times larger than the one left by the dinosaur killing asteroid. Explosion of that size would probably end all life on Earth forever.
>>65025483i think this would cause an extinction event lmfao
>>65025505A daring synthesis
>>65025477This is a gay retard thread but I actually do wonder about the practical and tactical consideration of nuke targeting. It's probably all classified but who actually picks nuke targets and what are the heuristics to do it? Is it something that can be changed on the fly or is it hardcoded into a hard drive somewhere? Is it just GPS grid coordinates? If a new threat appears how fast can target coordinates be updated?
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>>65025477>>65025505it wouldn't work. you'd still have people fighting over the rubble. you'd need to coat the entire area 3 feet deep in cobalt 60.
>>65025483smaller bomb to nuke Israel only will solve all the problemsit would be also very cheap, so even you as a filthy jew yourself can't argue that's the best solution
>>6502548 Add china to that list.
>>65025637cities don't tend to appear out of nowhere
>>65025637If we look at what is public ie 1950s and 1960s strategy then the most targets are predetermined and focus first on destroying the enemys capability to nook you. But because TELs, planes and submarines are mobile you also need to give pilots and ship captains the authority to nook on their own accord t. OP
>>65025663I was thinking about a neutron bomb right at the base of the dome on the rock, just poison the fucking thing with so much radiation you cannot even have direct line of sight to it without dying in minutes.>muslims lose their place of accension and final victory over Christianity>jews lose their third temple forever and are cucked out of their new kingdom>evangelist heretics are cucked out of their second comingYou could one shot every single blasphemous religion. You could reshape theology and spiritualism for the next thousand years, reorient them towards true enlightenment.
>>65025483Ok, I know nuclear winter is a bit of a meme, but a bomb that size would probably kill every living thing on earth.>imagine the pressure wave
>>65026029yeah i dont think the radiation would even do the killing. The explosion would cause insane tsunamis, earthquakes, and the ejecta falling back to earth would burn fucking everything. As far as I know the Chicxulub impact caused earthquakes that lasted for days and the temperature burned the atmosphere
>>65025483Ok, theorycrafing time: lets say picrel happens. Ayyys come tomorrow, delete middle east like above without any damage to the sorroundings and say peace out. What would the world look like?>energy crisis>Russia cucked out of sea access but oil and gas skyrocket>Egypt collapses because Nile is gone>India becomes gatekeeper of the new trade route>Turkey becomes center of muslim world also de facto center of the (old) worldWhat else?
>>65025483>Israel, India and Turkey still therelmao
>>65026231Enormous world-wide disasters due to the cataclismic shift in weather patterns and phenomenonthe monsoon drift spilling all its humidity and warm water in west africa and anatolia and letting the west of india get colderthe sahara gets showered with water and keeps the winds carrying nutrient-rich sand dusts from fertilizing the rest of africa and south americathe mediterranean sea and the new arabian ocean mixing in different salt levels and water temperatures utterly destroying the fish populationsthe new weather pattern sucking up all the humidity from Russia and causing it to become a much more barren and dry wasteland
>>65026231>without any damage to the sorroundings and say peace outYeah if we imagine some sort of magical gravity implosion bomb or something that deletes baryonic matter without energy conversion (at least, without it here on earth, maybe it spits it out in a white hole somewhere or whatever) so the world spins on:>energy crisisThis would be the most clear instant effect, but also a lot of other important materials that aren't immediately intuitive. Most of the chip grade helium for example is a byproduct of Qatar natural gas. Lot of aluminum smelting also happens there. None of it is perfectly irreplaceable though we've made life harder for ourselves, but it'd be a pretty big raw material disruption. Lot of financial implications too, ME money is funding a great deal of stuff in the West.>oil and gas skyrocketTemporarily yeah it'd be huge. It'd definitely massively accelerate the transition to solar/wind and BEVs though. Oil at $200-300+/barrel would mean durable permanent demand loss. This would probably be a significant geopolitical win for China, who are the only ones right now who have gone really into that. EU would likely have no choice but to completely drop all tariffs and just import cars asap. American auto would be caught with their pants down yet again. It'd result in a long term shift in geopolitical power.That'd spiral in a lot of ways though pretty quick. It'd mean no more ME adventures for America, could completely shift focus to the pacific and snowgeria, though unless the Ayyys gave secret warning we'd lose a ton of assets and soldiers when everything we had there went blip. Luck would therefore be a big role, we might lose almost no ships of real important, or lose a couple of carriers depending on timing which would actually be a big fucking deal.
>>65026345Yeah that too, enormous planetary ecosystem effects that'd take awhile to settle into new equilibrium. Probably increase global warming since open equatorial ocean has low albedo, though on the other hand forcing the fossil fuel thing very hard might reduce CO2 in the end and it'd lower sea levels. Typical mass migrant issues and so on due to disruption and resulting chaos.How big a mess it'd be would definitely depend a lot on how leadership around the world reacted of course. Sane working together would help a great deal, somebody chimping out and panic firing nukes would of course be the worst.
>>65026115>As far as I know the Chicxulub impact caused earthquakes that lasted for days and the temperature burned the atmosphereAnd that crater was only ~150km wide. This one is several thousand. I guess resetting life on earth to the Prototerozoic era would put an end to everyone's problems.
>>65025637I have a sneaking suspicion that the current US doctrine would be to ask Grok what to hit.
>>65025489No and yes
>>65027567>OP bumping his thread from oblivion
>>65027575>>65026424based
>>65025698Yeah, you could do that. Fission fragments are probably the best way to keep an area clear for a really long time though. One could salt and ground burst an enhanced radiation weapon though if blast damage really was a concern and you wanted the area clear for a very very long time.
>>65025493First of all it would be much better without your kind, Mahmoud
>>65025487this, it's obvious who made that shit post
>>65025483>no nuke on indiaSaar, i kneel...
>>65025637It's part of a major issue with old, badly-maintained arsenals like Russia's where what they want to nuke and what their coordinates are set to remain different and difficult to alter on the fly.
>>65025477what strategy dude its very simplethe big three well four if we include japan too (they have almost 50 tons of plutonium enough for 6000 nukes) are there to keep the rest in check thats it IF someone decides to throw a nuke they know that one of them will respond back with impunity because only one of the big one have the capacity to destroy them and nobody wants to be nuked in retaliationend of chapter
>>65025483That's just Aroden's city.