>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from war, ensuring a new generation will grow up viewing armed conflict as the tedious, vitriolic pissing contest that it’s always truly beenNo need to thank it, anons
>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from war, ensuring a new generation will grow up viewing armed conflict as the tedious, vitriolic pissing contest that it’s always truly been
>>65025983>>65025995nah
>>65025995>>65025983Neither of those did it nearly as effectively as the first video from the Ukraine war dubbed over with kid's cartoon music as grenades fell on completely helpless Russians.
>>65026074>>65026090you only say that because it was caught on GoPro
>>65025973>spends 10 years lifting weights and running with a fully-loaded rucksack>spends a decade training with specops doing high speed low drag tacticool shit>gets taken out by a kid with googles and controller from hundred miles awaynothing personnel, kid.
>>65026096GoPros on artillery shells when?
>>65026074artillery was viewed as coward and unfair as well, so were machine guns drones are just the latest nasty war evolution >>65026090artillery had a massive impact on the battlefield it immediately became the number one cause of death on the front
>>65026174>artillery had a massive impact on the battlefieldyeah no shit. They didn't erase the mythical bravado and mystique of the soldier at war. They might have tarnished it, but it's in total shatters when you see a guy, huddled against the body of his dead comrade, struggling against his broken body to stuff the muzzle of his rifle into his mouth and end it as he agonizingly suffers, torn apart by a dropped grenade but still alive and suffering for nothing.>>65026096Fucking duh.
>>65025983>Looks cool af when lauched.>Looks cool af during flight.>Looks cool af at the recieving end.Try again
>>65026192>but it's in total shatters when you see a guy, huddled against the body of his dead comrade, struggling against his broken body to stuff the muzzle of his rifle into his mouth and end it as he agonizingly suffers, torn apart by a dropped grenade but still alive and suffering for nothing.so your issue is not the drones, but the cameras that are present in war nowadays. What you said always happened, read a book or two
>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from war, ensuring a new generation will grow up viewing armed conflict as the tedious, vitriolic pissing contest that it’s always truly been(I will concede that drones might make a difference, but only for the cameras recording all the horrific yet inconsequential deaths for distribution online, rather than for the actual weapon itself)
>>65026220Kinda, but also how brutally effectively ineffective they are, or can be. Watching someone get vaporized into fine mist by a missile, that ain't shit. Watching the dozenth suicide, or a Russian just laying back, and begging the drone operator to aim for the head and make it quick, that's rough.
>>65026220i mean it's a one two punch isn't it?artillery, for all its disconnect, still was a massive fucking gun and its destruction seemed roughly equivalent of its visible output. FPV drones are like these gay little toys piloted by esports nerds, who get to make twitch meme clips of your sons getting iced in the most brutal and humiliating ways. they are the ultimate exposure of the fallacy of the glory of war and as soon as the first fresh young amerishart gets his balls blown off on liveleak in 4k 60fps (fibreoptic drones have terrific bitrates) with creepy arabic music in the background, the whole nation will be on fire.
>>65026278>Watching someone get vaporized into fine mist by a missile, that ain't shitYou know that there's alot of people who suffer the same fate as drone victims, even though they are "only" shot by arty and/or missiles? Most Deaths aren't instant anyways, and by your logic, small arms are on the same level or even worse than drones>>65026353>they are the ultimate exposure of the fallacy of the glory of war and as soon as the first fresh young amerishart gets his balls blown off on liveleak in 4k 60fps (fibreoptic drones have terrific bitrates) with creepy arabic music in the background, the whole nation will be on fire.You act as if more than half the guys that are currently in the army or would at least consider it didn't spend their early teens watching liveleak videos, seeing their own get killed. In reality, few people would know, or give a shit, if the footage wouldn't be published by traditional media and every second social media user. There will always be people dumb enough to volunteer for war because "they're built different", there will always be people who will sign up for their ideals, to prove themselves, because they have a the wrong idea as to what war actually is (and no amount of FPV footage will change that- there's still fresh volunteers in Ukraine, 4 years after the invasion)>the whole nation will be on fire.This is a given, but trust me, this isn't dependent on 4k videos of marines getting blown to bits. Their Deaths will be used as yet another talking point, yet another dividing factor in the current political landscape, nothing more. Sure, what you say is true somewhat, because it will amplify and accelerate the tensions and decline in the USA, but it wont be the sole factor, it wont even be what tips the scales
>>65026518Generally, I don't like drones either, but give it some time. In 2 or 3 years, drones will be like Bioweapons.>WhatYou know how every soldier still gets issued gas masks despite no real threat of getting gassed? If we start phasing out gas masks, everyone will use gas against us. So we just keep em around, and everyone else does the same.In 2-3 years time, every tank, every vehicle will have a dedicated anti-drone equipment, be it a jammer, mini CIWS, whatever, and the infantryman will always be in reach of the nearest anti-drone vehicle. When 95% of your drones get intercepted, they start becoming useless, so you use something else. That means that every tank will cost 50k more, and that's about it.
>>65025973>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from war, ensuring a new generation will grow up viewing armed conflict as the tedious, vitriolic pissing contest that it’s always truly been
>>65026192>you see a guy, huddled against the body of his dead comrade, struggling against his broken body to stuff the muzzle of his rifle into his mouth and end it as he agonizingly suffersRudyard Kipling was writing poetry about this very same thing over and over century ago. >When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,And the women come out to cut up what remains,Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier. Go, go, go like a soldier, Go, go, go like a soldier, Go, go, go like a soldier, So-oldier of the Queen!From The Young British Soldier
>>65026353>the whole nation will be on fire.Thats not how public opinion works. You're too young to remember the Jubba sniper compilations filmed in Iraq, and it shows.
>>65026278So what if the drones were equipped with phasers instead of grenades? Clean, fast vaporization death. Or just turned into pristine lifeless bodies on a lower setting.Would that restore the glory?
>>65026814No, but it'd make it less impactful. We've all seen UAV footage. There's a guy. Bloop. He's dead, everyone's dead, all gone. No big deal.
>>65025973This is the real reason why governments want age restrictions on the internet. Can't have the kids seeing high definition videos of what war is really like before they're old enough to enlist.
just make drones illegal. it worked for chemical weapons
>>65026718>Jubba sniper compilationsgrainy footage of a figure falling over in the distance at a time when less than 10% of the planet were on the internet.compare that to the shit that comes out of ukraine daily.
>>65027048>it worked for chemical weaponsBecause chemwar fucking sucks, so it was a trivial decrease in battlefield effectiveness for a massive PR gain.
>OP discovers that dying is bad
>>65025973>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from warLike siege engines, cross bows, cannon, muskets, rifles, artillery, mines and bombs?War is for winning not for keeping your propaganda feed delusions of war alive.
>>65027549/meg/ exists here because a lot of people don't understand dying is bad.
>>65027584A good Christian neither fears nor welcomes death.
>>65027590What? That's not true at all.
>>65027597When I shall lay this body down,And dwell with Christ above,Then I shall hear the joyful soundOf everlasting love.
>>65027590What about killing, I'm pretty sure there were like 10 big rules and one said don't kill.
>>65027605>dying >killing You're an idiot
>>65027612So you go to war but don't want to kill the enemy?Then you are just a burden on resources and will get others killed.
>>65027624>so [thing literally no one said]
>>65027625So dying is fine but killing is bad? I have no moral problem with that stance but going to war means killing.
>>65027631>so [thing no one said]
>>65027600k here's some verses from the Bible, ever heard of it?>And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.>For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.Jesus literally says go to certain death for his sake. In absolutely no uncertain terms.>>65027605It says not to murder. This gotcha is so stupid it could only be parroted by a kike.>uhm, yeah, God, that guy who has personally commanded genocide on multiple occasions and directly commands his people to kill others down to infants, leaving not even animals alive, yeah he has a problem with killingis hilarious.>Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:
>>65027634>could only be parroted by a kikeKikeland is committing a genocide right now, they are not principled people.
>bravado and glory>warit was always fake shit told to clueless retards, a 5 minute talk with actual combat veterans would tell you so
>>65028016This.I encourage anyone who disagrees to enlist in their choice of shithole militia immediately and move their entire family there with them.
>>65026353Will you stop advocating for nuking of Iran?
The vast majority of casualties are still due to field artillery, as it has been for the last couple centuries. Drones have just exacerbated this by making spotting much more effective (their real danger on the battlefield). Getting chased around and hunted by an FPV is humiliating and terrifying but you’re still far more likely to die because blinked and now lack a torso.
>>65025973>takes all of the mythologized bravado and glory away from war, ensuring a new generation will grow up viewing armed conflict as the tedious, vitriolic shitting contest that it’s always truly been
>>65025973>>65025983>>65025995It's not any weapon that did it, it was the invention of cameras. Before photographs the only way to experience the reality of war would be to find yourself on a battlefield.>>65026546People still bought into the hype for centuries past the advent of the crossbow.
