Does anyone here have experience with 10m air pistol shooting? I wanted get into some form of bullseye competitive shooting that isn't two gun matches since it wouldn't involve me having to run around like a jackass. Plus .177 cal competition pellets are far cheaper than having to stock up on real ammo. I was looking around for an air pistol and I noticed there are massive price jumps.>Air Venturi Steyr knockoffWhile it is only ~$650 online people seem to complain about the grips and also don't appear to be all that accurate after you get out of being a novice>Hammerli AP20 ProI want to get one of these since they seem to be an okay price, but I am unsure what they are lacking being $1000 cheaper than a Steyr, Morini, or even a Pardini>Steyr, Morini, and PardiniI noticed most Olympic shooters go with either a Steyr LP10 (pic rel) but I am unsure what these three offer or differ over the other options other than I know most of the offerings from Morini have an electronic trigger and I know I am not overly crazy over that. But I am not sure dropping $2200-2500 on a pistol when I am unsure if I would even like the sport is wise to do when just starting out.>Used pistolsI see older pistols like Walther CPs or Feinwerkbau pistols go for a lot less on Fuddjoker or ebay, but I am unsure if spare parts exist or if the air tubes have service lives from being constantly filled and unfilled, seals, trigger parts, etc. are hassles I want to deal with.Ty for coming to my retard TED talk.
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with old guns just make sure they still make air cans for them. The seal rings are standardized and very cheap to replace if needed.
>>65028250Would I be looking at the company site for that or a 3rd party?
I use a Pardini since it feels nearly the same as my 22 (other than trigger weight), but Steyr and Morini seem to be more popular at competitions. All three are good however.For used ones watch out for electronic triggers some models have issues with dying circuits, and it can be hard (or impossible) to find replacement parts. Google before buying. Mechanical are easier to fix and find parts for.The Walther Feinwerkbau and Hammerli should be good as intro guns just check reviews on the model before you buy.
>>65028472ty for confirming my concerns with electronic triggers. Are there any common models you see a lot on the used market?
>>65028188The key is to join a club. They'll have club guns that you can use that'll be better than anything you're going to wan total novice.>inb4 where do I find a club?If you're American, you probably won't. In the US they're almost exclusively youth or scholastic organizations. Other countries may have adult clubs around.An American's best bet is to trawl the BST on target talk or hit up local air gun shops and ask about their used guns. If you go to a shop, you can ask them about guns and they'll answer all your questions about which ones to get. Then it's just a matter of practice. I recommend buying a class or coaching session, since its the fastest way to get established with the fundamentals. You can teach yourself eventually, but it's impossible to overstate how much faster you'll get through the beginner steps with someone competent telling you what to do and giving feedback.
>>65029517>Tough luck if you are a BurgerI got news for you; I am. Thankfully for me I lve near Camp Perry so I feel like I might find someone to help at least. Also t m k PyramidAir, one of the largest air gun importers in the US, is also here in Ohio. I guess I'll have to go on a mini road trip there sometime then.
>>65028188I had quite a bit when I was younger and competing. Started out with a pistol that used a break action to charge the cylinder for each shot, then used a Röhm Twinmaster which was quite fun given the accessories (couldn't use them for competition obviously). Those Steyrs did seem to be the most popular ones I saw.
>>65028188You could try finding one of these, the IZH-46m/AV-46m, not having to deal with scuba tanks and compressors is a proUsed guns are GTG too, airguns are drastically simpler than firearms, seals are not that hard to deal with, they are just orings that you replace. Air tanks don't go bad in any sort of way, only scubas or bigger (300cc and up) carbon tanks do.
>>65030871I was looking around for one, but they are fairly hard to find here.
>>65029263I'm in NZ so the used market doesn't really exist. Our options are club notice boards /club email, auctions and trade me (our fb marketplace).Good competition airguns usually sell instantly when listed so you have to wait for them to pop up. Auctions can have dirt cheap air pistols but they are mostly old webley break actions.Clubs will usually be the best bet, ask around someone will have one. Or you can borrow the club one.>>65029517>Then it's just a matter of practice. I recommend buying a class or coaching session, since its the fastest way to get established with the fundamentals. You can teach yourself eventually, but it's impossible to overstate how much faster you'll get through the beginner steps with someone competent telling you what to do and giving feedback.This is very true if your new to shooting.>>65030871I started on one of these, Its much better than the toy style airguns but i jumped 30 points by getting the pardini.If you use it watch out for the loading lever, if you don't close it properly it will blast the seals out all over the range.They are two small rubber rings that sit in the triangle bit and are impossible to find once they are downrange.The pumping between each shot also gets annoying after 60 shots + sighters.
I can't decide on a rear sight width.
Hämmerli AP20 is what i started shooting 10m air pistol with. Its perfectly fine and capable to reach 575+ results.If you can buy used air pistols Steyr LP2 is excellent value for the money, trigger is better and overall build quality aswell.What I personally dont like about AP20 and all Walther high end air pistols is the fact that the adapter for the compressed air bottle is made of steel with rather fine threads and the other side of the compressed air cartridge is made of aluminium. Therefore it can be easily damaged. Steyr on the other hand both uses brass and coarse thread. Its indestructible
>>65032096Duly noted anon, ty for the info.