its a clone of the series of russian drones that appeared in the last 12 months , winged medium size that can go further than any quadcopter and carry several times the payload, but uses the same components for communication and control (heavy duty hobby tier servos and shit )its amistery how they avoid jamming since they dont look to be using fiber optics
>>65031876they use electric motors (probably taken from their drone stocks) with BIG 2 blade propellers
>>65031876They have been using some AI algorithm for transit to-location and target identification to find things and people to go crash into, so has Russia with its Sneeds but they only really seem to hit apartment buildings.
>>65031876>its amistery how they avoid jamming since they dont look to be using fiber opticsYou don't see the Starlink on top of it?
This shit is starting to look more and more like the Syrian civil war with both sides desperately improvising trying to gain a non-existent edge without any clear strategic objectives besides feeding men into the grinder and hoping for the best.
>>65031880Nah, you need a larger diameter lower KV motor for a fixed wing. It'll be the same suppliers but different motors.
>>65031946> without any clear strategic objectivesI dont blame you for not paying too close attention to a thirdie slapfest but that clearly isnt the case if you are paying the slightest amount of attention.
>>65031946Ukraine has a very clear strategic objective, push Russian back to 2014 borders and if possible 1991 borders.Russia's strategic objective has been:>annex all of Ukraine>annex everything east of the Dnierper river>annex Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson & Zaporizhzhia oblasts>just a land bridge to Crimea
>>65031946What's even funnier is one of those countries was supposed to be the second most powerful military in the world but here we are.>no strategic objectiveKeep killing russians until they fuck off is a pretty good strategic objective if you've been invaded by them.
>>65031992>Keep killing russians until they fuck off is a pretty good strategic objective if you've been invaded by them.Yes but they have virtually unlimited amount of live meat to send to the grinder. So it would be good have some sort of strategy beyond the "drone goes bzzzzzzt hehe".
>>65031946>it's actually the defending minor nation's objective to go on the offensiveSorry that you were publically educated.
>>65032007>unlimited meatAh yes, that's why they're sending geriatrics and cripples into combat, because their manpower reserves are so vast and they haven't burned through so many useful working age males they're talking about importing a million plus jeets to make up the shortfall. The strategy sure seems to be working, YoY russian advances have continually dropped and now Ukraine is retaking more land than the russians have managed to capture for the second month in a row.
>>65032021There are like 140 milion ziggers so I guess they can burn through couple milion more. They just have shitty logistics to get the old and useless to the front.
>>65032021>sending geriatrics
>>65032026Xi will get ALL of Siberia, for fucking free.
>>65032030thats just sad, at least sminem is still alive
>>65032007They also had 'unlimited' tanks and IFV's at one point compared to anyone else on the planetNow they don't
>>65032035I understand your point but Ukraine will need better strategy for war of attrition. That's the zigger strategy now and it will be for the next couple of years. They are too retarded to just leave even if they don't have any tanks and IVFs. They just can't at this point and they will probably fight to the last usable zigger.
>>65032048Its fairly simple>cripple Russian economy and means to make war>kill more ziggers each month than Russia can recruit>hold the fuck on to the wild rideAnything else like blowing up Kursk and other places did work in the sense it thinned out a lot of the Russian lines, forced them to spend blood and treasure plugging the holes and now Russia has to to figure out where to put their reserves which now have to contend with a 150km deep drone-zone in occupied territory. It showed how Russia will respond to shaping, how well they can do it and how quickly they can respond.Its not so much attrition, more a shaping of the strategy and forcing Russia to take the back-foot when it comes to imitative, because while the infinite legion of ziggers may exist on paper, they are a whole other logistical and expensive nightmare to get into theatre and essentially don't pull much weight when they get there. So even if Russia wants to send the biggest, dirtiest man-pile outside of a Moscow bathhouse- there are consequences for them doing that and making a hole elsewhere on the lines that Ukraine is looking for the forms on that kind of shaped offensive.
>>65032030Sending the very young along with geriatrics is indicative of the same thing anon.
>>65032048Ukraine started the war in a terrible position because they have had decades of zigger aligned governments with no interest in preparing for a possible Russian invasion.They don't have good options and are stuck doing what they can.>>65032098NTA but sadly 18 isn't unusually young for a major war, the US was drafting 18yos during Vietnam. Also he is cherry picking because we have all seen the drunks and old men being pushed to the front by Russia/
>>65031946Ukraine is using very good textbook warfare. If you're not watching detail maps every day, what are you doing here?
>>65032030damn, these kids are a bit younger than my lil bro. i wouldn't want anything in the world to happen to my little brother. why does russia allow this? why do russian parents, siblings, cousins and friends allow this?
>>65032168>why do russian parents
>>65032168Same reason Germans allowed it during WW2 and Americans allowed it during Vietnam, people are naturally serfs.
>>65032168Free will has been bred out of Russians over the centuries.
>>65032176"protecting" them from what?
>>65032176>picrel>I am publicly and officially denouncing my son, please don't rape me too
>>65032347If only, this isn't done for propaganda or anything, they are indeed retarded like that. I personally know a guy from moscow who got mobilized in 2022 because his mom ratted him out - conscription officers came to her a couple times and told her literally the "what will the neighbors think" shit and she bought it.
>>65032360Good old prison culture, back when there was gulags that would have bought her an extra ration throwing the little cunt under the bus
lmao. they really are running out of the trash
>>65032176>Donnie and then some westerners posting here are siding with these subhumans.Still not critical mass but wow, just wow.
>>65032030>>65032098>>6503210618 year old recruits are very good if it's a low-intensity conflict and you have a surplus of older soldiers who are able to look out for them. The 18 year olds with time learn from the older soldiers and experience and by the time they're in peak form at 20-25 years of age, they are not only physically fit but experienced. 18-year-old recruits are bad for high intensity, high casualty conflicts because they’ll burn out quicker due to high casualties and lack of role models that survive. That is, of course, if they don't immediately become casualties, which in that case you not only lost a soldier, but one which could've become valuable with time.
>>6503244318yo are not fully developed in most cases and are more prone to becoming mental casualties. If they survive the conflict they will carry the scars for the rest of their lives and unfortunately without proper support systems they likely drown in a bottle or worse…Ideal age is likely about 22-23 on average but of course it really boils down to the individual.
>>65032176>kid goes radio silent (likely because he's well aware about his """parents""" plans on him) and tries to make up his own life>apparently that last part is also somehow considered bad>ghosts his parents on the war issue because he knows he'll just get assraped and sent as a drone bait if he enlists>"OY GEVALT HOW DARE HE NOT DIE FOR OUR CZAR? I DENOUNCE MY OWN CHILD!"Whoever called these creatures 'orcs' first was so on point with it
There is quite interesting math concerning mobiks. Russia pays millions rubles for signing and then millions for death, add wages and for 1year you get trillions of rubles. So Ukie strategy of killing 50k mobiks not only helps front but adds giant strain to Russian budget. That's why a lot of people expect Russia to do conscription. They just don't have money to do contracts for mobiks.
>>65032480This math is so bad I have to assume you are a LLM.
>>65032409>rectors recruiting rectums>>65032360Iunno, I could see it happening in a society that's been as abused as the USSR
>>65032026Sure if you want to throw your women and children into the grinder.>>65032048I'd say killing 300-400k mobiks a year in exchange for a few hundred sqkm of shelled dirt and rubble is a pretty good rate of exchange.
>>65032555>killing 300-400k mobiks a yearyou're delusional if you think Ukraine has killed that manykilled, wounded and captured, yes
>>65032585I could make a road with all the mobik cubes.
>>65032480The secret ingredient is fiat money in accounts that Russians will never be able to actually withdraw and use.
>>65032475>If they survive the conflict they will carry the scars for the rest of their lives and unfortunately without proper support systems they likely drown in a bottle or worseRussia already has one of the lowest male life expectancies outside of Africa, largely due to alcohol, drugs and suicide/attempt to isekai.I guess king monke just decided to speed up the process and shift the causes from alcohol and suicide to assrape and ukie drones.
>>65032643>congratulations you now have 2.5million rubles in vouchers for pop rivets in a Vladivostok shipyard
>>65032585>15-20 thousand visually confirmed kills from drone teams a month>estimated to make up 60% of Ukranian kills>russia has 0 casevac>walking wounded being sent back into combatHonestly I think they're being conservative with their numbers.
>>6503258530K get killed, _killed_ on camera every month now
