Was it an F15 or an F35 that was shot down?
>>65040006It was an F15, based on pictures of the ejection seat
we just don't know
>>65040006Neither because its obvious 50 IQ AI copeslop like everything else
>>65040006F-15E from the 494th fighter squadron, based in RAF Lakenheath is what all visual evidence shows.If an F-35 was shot down, nobody has provided evidence for it.
F-15E. Big SAR mission underwayHouse callimg for iimmediate war powers vote by this afternoon by 330pm EST This war has turned into a disaster.
Are these search and rescue missions dangerous?
>>65040024>>65040039>>65040008Why did the centcom twitter state all fighter aircraft were accounted for? I understand it could have wanted to delay the pilots' capture if they survived by not alerting Iran to the downing, but they could have just not tweeted anything at all, denying the downing undermines it's credibility.
>>65040051The current admin looks up to Russia as what a government should be. And you’re surprised they’re doing this?
if this is true im laughing my ass off
>>65040006>Shia dogs cheer on a single plane being shot downSunni lions managed to down 75, you are a disgrace to the region and ummah.
>>65040051>why do miggers lie like ziggersPerhaps they're the same people.
>>65040063Why is it flying to Israel or Jordan instead of landing in Saudi Arabia? Is MBS still pissed off at Trump's "kiss my ass" comment?
>>65040051because opsec. their primary goal is finding the pilot.
>>65040063Absolutely pathetic levels of wishful thinking on display here
>>65040076Saudi is in range of Iranian drones.
>>65040051>Accounted forIs intentionally factually lying in saying they know what happened to the airframe. Could be an airframe that went down for whatever reason that was seen going down to a location and splashed with a JDAM after it was clear the aircrew got out.
>>65040100In an emergency situation landong at any air field will do, I presume that the pilots care more about their lives than the integrity of the plane
>>65040055>>65040068>this level of cope
>>65040063I instinctively disregard every post that starts with the word BREAKING.
>>65040051>all fighter aircraft were accounted for?Because "being accounted for" simply means they know where it is and what happened to it, in what state it is.In a military context it means the thing isn't missing or uncertain, but that it's on the books in whatever state it currently is in.Try learning some fucking English before you start shilling.
>>65040111Why?
Everyone is failing Trump. He really needs to clean house and fire all the losers. Good thing Hegseth has started the project already.
>>65040115Don't be zigger tier. The context there is that Iran's claim of downing a jet is false. That clearly implies they mean all US jets are "accounted for" as in "known to be safely flying or RTB, not shot down" because otherwise the Iranian claim wouldn't be false. If centcom is telling the truth and Iran is full of it then sure no problem, but if Iran is right they finally managed to hit a single aircraft out of thousands of missions then it's obviously deceptive, and pointlessly so given that losing an F15 is hardly the end of the world if a war is worth fighting at all.
>>65040125Preach. The military is filled with woke leftists traitors and if one caused an American to go down they need to be purged.
>>65040006Why do you believe it was a F-35?
>>65040013We literally do, there is no reason to feign ignorance like a leftist
Bring back blood chits!
So what is this now, 104 to -4?
>>65040142That refers only to air-to-air.
>>65040136Pretty sure it will come out the "pilot" was a black woman or someone in the control room was a woke trans diversity hire.
>>65040138Wishful thinking from a brownoid. These are the same types that would have declared Serbia the undisputed victor when they shot down ONE of our stealth planes. I wonder how that victory felt for the families bombed in Belgrade afterwards
>>65040138there were was an earlier thread on /k/ today where that was mentioned
>>65040110i accept your concession
>>65040125>>65040136Da, i john burger from florida oblast am in full agreement
>>65040153Do you deny the military having wokes at the highest levels?
>>65040130>That clearly implies they mean all US jets are "accounted for" as in "known to be safely flying or RTB, not shot down"No, you fucking retard.>to show what happened to (someone or something) : know where (something or someone) ishttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/account%20for%20%28someone%20or%20something%29To be accounted for simply means to know where it is, it has been inventoried and written into the account.In a military context specifically, it means that the piece of equipment and its condition is accounted for, is known, is reported and written down. This is, in contrast to, the piece of equipment being missing and unaccounted for.The piece of equipment is accounted for even if it is written down as burning, crashed, destroyed, lost to enemy fire.
>>65040146Amerikanskii pederastu destroy mighty american BBC. Czar trump must know
>>65040146Pretty sure you’re seething, my poorly educated friend
>>65040155Da comrade. Pederastii fuck armija amerikanskii like petukh
>>65040153Odd reply since these comments are clearly (?) meant in jest and it's the Maga faggots being mocked who have swallowed zigger propaganda
>>65040155What the fuck is a woke?
>>65040125Anon the war was Hegseths' idea
>>65040146congrats you are the ten-thousanth clever anon to say that.
>>65040039>This war has turned into a disaster.It's not a war until war is officially declared, dumbass.
>>65040166Da, americana must join mighty POCCUA in eternal friendship and cooperation pact to learn to fuck liberashka petukhs in ass. LIFT SANCTSIONII PLJAT
>>65040183>muh SMO/k/ope
>>65040176Yes and it's being ruined by incompetent apparatschicks put there by Biden and Obama for diversity reasons. The plan isn't the problem.
>>65040063Twitter screencaps need to be autopurged
American anons...
>>65040184Sanctions are already lifted and Russian tankers can go by the blockade to Cuba
>>65040175Wokes are jokes.
I thought Iran had all of it's anti-air weaponry destroyed, three times now? What happened?
Midterms fucked lmao. Def losing the house, prolly senate too at this point. Lets see if rubio and vance can survive this shitshow
>>65040190Pretty arrogant to think of yourself as special. This is just another day for us. Also, we are going to the moon, what is your shithole doing this week?
>>65040200The one week SMO provides as planned traitor
>>65040175It means "don't listen to me I'm stupid" in retard
>>65040200They made more?
Day 31 of the 4-day SMO to bring back bikinis and OnlyFans to Persian women:Today the country with no airforce claims another ZOG fighter bomber and the SAR mission sent to recover the pilot. 2 more weeks and the eyebrow will enter the ass, the Strait of Hormuz will be unblocked and everything will be known.
>>65040205>what is your shithole doing this week?free healthcareverification not requir*d
>>65040210But I thought we bombed all their military production sites? How is this happening?
>>65040213>free healthcare>waiting in line to dieEnjoy.
>>65040191>The plan isn't the problem.True, there would have to be a plan for the plan to be the problem.
>>65040216They have jeanies.
>>65040006If NATO hadn’t abandoned us this never would’ve happened
>>65040221>bomb goat fuckers>plan accomplished Good plan.
>>65040051That was posted on the 2nd, the plane was reported today on the 3rd. You guys are fucking retards>>65040212You guys are trying really hard to make this a thing huh
>>65040218>american health care>get cancer>its cured in the hospital>kill yourself because ur 5 million in debt
>>65040218but I'm not a marine??
>>65040051>accounted forAh, so they know where it crashed. Decent wordplay.
what if Iran agreed to build a mcdonalds in tehran and we stopped bombing them?
>>65040006When memes become reality
>>65040115>>65040156You are ignoring the entire first half of the tweet and arguing semantics over one phrase in the second half, as if that will make the whole thing factually correct.
>>65040218>Be American >Have Cancer>Your cancer treatment means shareholders will get .0001 fewer cents return>Cancer treatment denied
>>65040049Very, the locals are excited satan finally got in nugget range.
>>65040226>bomb goat fuckers>it doesn't work>there's no contingency for thisBad plan.
>>65040243can you post one example of that happening?
>>65040218Funny, I got free healthcare and lower average waiting times than muttoids do.
Why is the american military so incompetent?Didn't they claim they could take on the whole world?
You guys are so boring.
>>65040251Enough that law companies have how to guides online on how to appeal
>>65040231It's already a thing. And it's hilarious.Don't worry, it only gets worse for you.
>>65040242>arguing semanticsThis is what all public statements are about, nigger.>as if that will make the whole thing factually correct.No. All that matters is every statement in the post being technically correct. You being too stupid to read between the lines only means you are the intended audience for the propaganda served onto your plate. Now eat up, piggy.
>>65040155Muh wokes weren't the ones who decided to launch this war without any real plan and zero prep work.
>>65040212>SMO to bring back bikinis and OnlyFans to Persian womenwhy do you people say this as if it's a bad thing?
We have to punish the Europeans severely for refusing to come to our aid in our time of need. Trump should just leave the strait closed to punish Europe for a few months
>>65040257>jannies save me
>>65040262>it's already a thingSo the west is not allowed to take any losses or it's considered an abject failure?
>>65040267He's a Muslim, of course the idea of sexy non-goat women makes him mad.
>>65040203Bold of you to assume that cheeto won't try to cancel the mid-term outright because of all the "ongoing emergencies".
Damn, we're going to have Behind Enemy Lines 2, with elderly Owen Wilson discussing Ice Cube with some Iranian teens
>>65040205>what is your shithole doing this weekNot losing a war of choice against a thirdie theocracy, for starters.
>>65040262>only gets worse for you.Imagine being out done by Saddam Hussain and his army after thumping on your chest for 47 years. is this the best the Islamic republic has to offer ? 2 planes ?
>>65040272>US>the westlol
>>65040269Europe will negotiate passage through the strait, the strait will be closed only to Israel and America
>>65040190Technically every military action since WW2 has been an SMO. Blame congress, they gave the executive branch that power.
>>65040266No but they’re undercutting the president
>>65040291>the strait will be closed only to Israel and AmericaThey don't use it
>>65040264There's pictures of wreckage, reports of pilots being rescued and confirmation that potus has been briefed on the situation. Did you miss all that while huffing your copium?
You can tell the new crop of dumber, more obnoxious trolls are directly from the Democratic party.
>>65040291Then we should bomb the European ships as they exit
>>65040282Saddam even when up against a coalition of over half a million men from dozens of nations. Iran's performance is downright sad in comparison. All they can really do is lob drones at tankers and civilian infrastructure in the Gulf States, which are causing serious blowback against Iran that the spammers here pretend doesn't exist.
>>65040200They had more in storage than the CIA knew is my best guess
>>65040291>>65040297>the straight is CLOSED!>uh, except to the countries that use itWell that doesn't seem very impressive.
>>65040315Look, even PAKISTAN managed to parade around an Indian pilot, can you do the same ?
>>65040304True, we should just trust the wisdom of the tzar. If only those damn boyars weren't messing everything up
>>65040313>>65040297>We didn't need the Strait of Hormuz anyway!Babe, wake up, new Muttcope just dropped.
>>65040304you're all AIPAC to me
>>65040312>C"""I"""A
Why did Biden do this?
>>65040218That comment is really funny if you look at actual data on waiting times for life threatening conditions and realize the US ranks BELOW 12 EU nations AND FUCKING CANADA.
Apparently, they already recover one of the crew?
>>65040006NoneRussians are COPING LIKE MAD and spreading AI fakes and brown Anyone disseminating information on /k/ that US aircraft are shot down over Iran are embarrassing themselves like pedo Ritter and Armatard and shouldn’t taken seriously by anyone
>>65040319We don't. Iran actually strengthened America's position diplomatically by closing it.
>>65040272>the west>look inside>USA, Israel, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, Bahraininteresting defenition you are using for "the west" here. Looks more like "The middle eastern handlers and their attack dog" to me.
>>65040315>Iran did.Technically Trump and Kegsbreath did.
>>65040272the expectations for iran are rock bottom and the expectations for the US are astronomically high. so yeah any amerian losses are humiliation century and and iranian losses are "hormuz status?"
>>65040306You should, I always wanted to see British submarines sink an US carrier or two.
>>65040226It’s not working. The regime is still in place, the straight is still functionally closed, enriched uranium hasn’t been secured. The smart thing to do right now would be to declare victory and leave. The only alternatives are to keep doing the same thing or a ground incursion to secure the enriched uranium. This is assuming that regime change remains off the table because that would require an Iraq/afghan tier effort that wouldn’t work anyway.
>>65040006>F35 gay stealth design gets hit low and slow>limps home>old F18 gets hit in the ass>doesn't need to land, burnt the paint >F15 Boomer King gets hit >EXPLODES, PILOT MUST EJECT, HELICOPTERS SENT TO RECOVER THE CREWLet me guess, it was hit with a proximity weapon and the F15E didn't even pick it up
>>65040130What if Centcom knew the plane crashed after a birdstrike? Then they'd be correct in saying it wasn't shot down, and correct in saying they knew where it was, even if that was scattered over the Iranian countryside.
>>65040340None of the goatfuckistans do anything but shoot down drones tho, only israel and golem do anything offensive
>>65040318>>65040321Touched a nerve, did I? Here's one for free: thirdies don't care about dumb beltway shit like who the Secretary of Defense is. It could be Hegseth, it could whatever fucked up tanny Kamala Harris would have put in, it's completely irrelevant to them.
>>65040335He can't keep getting away with it!
>>65040291>>65040351Is it closed or not?
>>65040352They fact a 35 got hit at all by thirdies proves Sprey right
>>65040351Very well, but how does that help fill up the dams and water reservoirs ?
>>65040322To be fair I think it is pretty amazing just how well Iran is doing despite how hard they've been hit. I heard somewhere they still over half of their missile stockpile left after the strikes.
>>65040353okay but what if you take the plane’s blown up remains in relation to the moon and not earth? it’s still flying so neener neenerate zigger lies, ate retarded semantics
>>65040351What'll actually happen is a multilateral coalition to escort tankers through the strait, possibly even with UN authorization, while further attacks and disruption attempts from within Iran are swatted from the air. Iran backed itself into a corner.
>>65040351>the alternativesthe alternative is they take out the energy infrastructure and turn off the lights for everyone, also turn off the internet so business can't be done regardless. The people without these things for days will demand some kind of change, if the government in power doesn't fix it they will install someone who will
>>65040332>the world economy being impacted by a sundowning, pants shitting, demented pedophile deciding to have his last hurrah with his shiny toys actually makes the world hate Iran What level of /k/ope is this?
>>65040331The F-15E thing is real though. Even Fox News is talking about it right now.
is it possible to talk about the CSAR mission thats underway without engaging in the pol posting?guessing theres a couple possibilities:-flew PJs in on blackhawks, picked up pilots and left.-bigger operation multiple helicopters air cover etc not just 2 PJ teams-cant get to pilots, maybe PJs/seals have to jump in-there are local friendly assets that can take the pilots until such a time that option 1 can happen
had no idea /k/ would turn into /ptg/ 2.0 with the same delusional retards licking the boots of the orange pedo and pretending he is winning bigly
>>65040365>UN authorization >While two members of Security Council are kicking back and laughing lol lmao even
>>65040361if you wanna be that kind of fag about it, spreyfags blew it on the F15 design by making it not as durable as the A10 or the F35 (which by reformer standards should be weaker as a single engine than the f15, an "air dominance" fighter)
>>65040368Iran is the one hit with the blowback because they're the ones who did it. This strengthens America's diplomatic position relative to them.
>>65040361Yeah, if only we had dozens of shittier jets getting destroyed and their pilots killed instead of one damaged jet.
This is the first war America has fought since 1945 where the enemy was more White than they are.
>>65040367I think the Iranian people are too weak willed to do anything. They've been rioting for years, but the instant the US comes in and decapitates the government, they decide they don't want to rebel anymore.
>>65040365oh nooo either the countries without an actual army to defend themselves suddenly come up with a permanent expeditionary force for the strait, or everyone just buys american>which option is most realistic for the zero birthrate, non-militarized NATO without the US?
>>65040194Republicans are still overwhelmingly in favor of the war
>>65040363>I think it is pretty amazing just how well Iran is doing despite how hard they've been hitHuh? Iran is doing terribly and their only success (and a lifeline) is fucking up the global economy in the hopes that trump cucks out and also somehow muzzles israeleverything else, like thaads and that awacs and the odd plane hit, is… not nothing but none of it is really meaningful. ziggers losing an awacs is a major issue. burgers losing an awacs is just some money.maybe if they could get a ship or something, but as is they achieved fuck all aside from hormuz
>>65040387It hard to rebel when the President urges on your uprising and then like 20-30k of you are gunned down in the street while the President doesn’t do anything.
>>650403602 Ships passed on that day, 1 French and 1 Indian. It used to average between 30 and 34 ships. You tell me.
>>65040387You can be the weakest willed person in the world, if your lights are off so you can't draw water, cook, or see, and the internet is out so you can't bitch about it, you'll either take your chances overthrowing the people not taking the deal that gives them the electricity back, or they just starve I guess
>>65040373It's already up for discussion, without American lead.The point of contention is the use of force. An in principle defensive escort and cover could pass the UN. A coalition could also form without a UN resolution as well, but there have already been resolutions passed against Iran since this thing started, so it's out of the realm of possibility one could pass.
the pilot has been rescued. now for the wso. why is it taking so long? do their survival radios not give precise gps coordinates?
>>65040365>with UN authorizationYou know China and Russia have permanent seats, right?
>>65040365Russian and China will just veto it lmao>>65040367The Iranian people already don't have regular internet
>>65040325I have an actually legit similar question: Why didn't he do it? Or Obama, or Bush, or Clinton? All of them took turns bombing the middle east but noone went after Iran. The whole drone threat and post cold-war reduction in power wasn't a thing in let's say 95. Talking about the Beirut bombing back then would have generated more than yawn or shrug in response back then.Clearly toppling Iran was on many people's wishlist probably since 1979. So why didn't any of those administrations do it? Why not do it after the first gulf war? Why not do it when they had an active nuclear weapons programme in 2002?
>>65040373*three, since France picked Russia and China's side lmao
>>65040391>March 16-22That was literally at the start of the conflict. This survey is almost 2 weeks old now.
>>65040391>not a hint of a plan>"yea I guess this is fine"politics turning into sports was the death kneel of democracy(for the record I agree with starting the war but they way it’s being carried out is retarded)
>>65040390Actually a lot of the legwork is being done by the Gulf so far. Since they're in theatre, the could probably cover a lot of the logistics with American help.
>>65040361Gr8 b8 m8 I 8/8
>>65040394>herpadoo Trump do Iran war no plan>derpahurr why Trump not teleport carriers to Iran for help protest why he no do thingGod you people are retarded.
>>65040403>Or ObamaObama didn't do it because he negotiated a successful deal with Iran. You know, the one Trump ripped apart in his first term.
>>65040380The Iranians hit their own leadership, oil extraction projects and elementary school with tomahawks and JDAMs? Big if true.>>65040369Someone get Ollie North on the phone. I heard he has some solid info on Iranian missile capabilities.
>>65040400Nobody really cares about the backseater.
>>65040411the US is not keeping their ships around forever, they want the fuck out of the middle east after this shitshow is over so they can fight in Taiwan. Only a solo force, without the US, opening hormuz on its own would matter. Nobody has the capability
>>65040402They didn't veto previous resolutions denouncing Iran.>>65040405France already has troops in the region providing defensive cover for their allies. Iran has also killed French servicemen. They will not side with Iran in any meaningful way.
>>65040413I never said any of that, perhaps you need English classes ESL.
>>65040414If it was successful then why did Iran still have a nuclear program?
>>65040392I was expecting Iran to fold like Venezuela. Instead they're weeks into the war, they're still firing ballistic missiles, still fucking with shipping, and still managing some kind of air defense. I expected them to sue for peace or have a revolution after the Ayatollah died.Also the US most certainly can't afford those kinds of losses. The planes a replaceable, but the crews are much harder to replace. And even if we do have more, we can politically afford casualties. I'm starting to think they should just do a quick and dirty ground invasion before congress can step in and force a stop to the fighting.
>>65040194Those are comically leading questions, and americanskis are hugely divided based on location anyway
>>65040387>>65040394Most Iranians in Iran are angry that America and Israel are attacking their country, the bombing of schoolchildren certainly didn't win Trump any favours among them.
>>65040420Opening Hormuz just means providing air cover to tankers, having some small warships to deter boat attacks, and suppressing Iran's launch capabilities. It's not an impossible task. It does not need to involve some kind of headlong naval charge.
>>65040398I think they'd just starve. All the people with backbone died last year in that failed uprising.
>>65040398this also might be a warcrime which is why it's the last option for victory next to capturing kharg island(not that the US committing a warcrime would result in literally anything, israel is allowed to bulldoze over noncombatants and directly steal their land with nothing but "condemnation" from the UN and NATO)
>>65040428>the US most certainly can't afford those kinds of lossesAmerican killed are comparable to Grenada or Panama
>>65040430And you know this how? Iranian state media?
>>65040428>Also the US most certainly can't afford those kinds of losseswhy can't the us afford these losses? the us took more losses in wars with Saddam
>>65040394He really should've done this 6 months ago when those riots were still going on.
>>65040441Reporters from Western news agencies interviewing members of the Iranian public
>>65040433Then why is nobody doing it?
>>65040430Maybe they should have put their children in a school instead of a barracks.
>>65040370so 2 PJ teams taken deep by a c130. kind of a cool operation
>>65040442they actually can directly afford these losses, it's in the annual budget of 1 trillion dollars >>65040449takes a functioning military (westoids don't have this outside of the US and Israel)
>>65040448May we see it?
>>65040013Even I can tell that isn't the way an F-35 is put together.F-15's undefeatable streak has been broken. F.
>>65040452To be fair, most Iranian children also serve in the EOD branch of their army.
>>65040414Fair point. Arguably the best thing he did.>>65040426That's the whole red line shifting that is so dumb. Say what you will about Iran's fatwa and it's credibility if you clearly say:>no nuclear weaponThat was and could have been a diplomatic starting point. >no nuclear programThat's completely unacceptable as any country has the right to peaceful use of nuclear power>no enrichment, no conventional ballistic missiles or dronesHow is that not a poison pill? Imagine going to Luxembourg and asking them for the same thing. Completely unreasonable.
>>65040414I think this war is being waged poorly, but come on anon. Iran was never holding up its end of the deal.
>>65040430You forgot the part where Trump sat on his laurels while his main supporting base was being massacred there.
>>65040400Even picking up one of them is good work, hope they find the other. CSAR is some wild shit.
>>65040391>cult members still fall in line with cult leaderAnd big news out of Jonestown, people still overwhelmingly support Jim Jones and his policies of drinking the kool-ade
>>65040466Is Luxembourg led by a death cult theocracy?
>>65040449Because the US is still focused on destroying Iranian launch capabilities and disrupting their ability to coordinate. I think boat attacks are pretty much done for at this point. The Gulf is scrambling to figure out what they want to do. Britain, France, and others are probably waiting on the Gulf to figure out what they want.
>>65040433>small warshipsasking miracles from the USN, are we?
>>65040403Iran was at its nadir. Their defense in depth relied mostly on a whole bunch of ragheads targetting israel, which is the mecca of US politicians, as well as other proxies that were mostly annoying but still somewhat harmful like the yemeni dudes shooting ships.The last several years has been pretty shit for their proxies tho, hamas did some wacky shit on their own and then got blown the fuck out, then mossad gave a whole bunch of semi important people gender reassignment surgery via pagers, houthis got bombed into hiding not too long ago, all the while a number of nearby sand countries normalized relations with israel. All the while iran’s ballistics didn’t improve much, they have quantity but not quality, and for all their muh nooks rhethoric they didn’t actually build any. Iran itself isn’t having a good time either, economy’s kinda shit, intermittent issues with water, moderate discontent amongst the populace.So, Iran is the weakest it’s been in a while but is unlikely to remain so for too long. Then Vuvuzela happening that went so well it got Trump feeling bold about a 3 days long SMO, and jews managed to sweet talk him into Iran and now here we are. It was objectively a good time to start the war. Unfortunately it isn’t carried out in a competent manner, and even the overwheling military advantage might not be enough if enough economic harm causes US to fuck off.
>>65040367>the alternative is they take out the energy infrastructure and turn off the lights for everyone, also turn off the internet so business can't be done regardless. The people without these things for days will demand some kind of change, if the government in power doesn't fix it they will install someone who willSo long as the Iranians have the capacity to launch a handful of drones or ballistic missiles at energy infrastructure in the region nothing changes. You’re fighting fanatics whose religion has tradition martyrdom built into it. You’re going to have to literally kill all of them and that either takes a lot of time (if it’s just a bombing campaign) or way more resources than what is currently being thrown at the problem (ie an invasion and fighting the resulting insurgency).
>>65040433>having some small warships to deter boat attacksCan't we track where those boats are coming in and out off? If Trump is sending boots on the ground, why not start there?
>>65040440Grenada and Panama happened when the US still had a functional legislative branch that wouldn't cut off its nose to spite its face. Modern politics is about denying the other guy victory, even if doing so makes life worse for everyone.
>>65040426>>65040467Except there were people from all kinds of countries going in and out of their facilities and they could have been bombed as soon as their was doubt. But there wasn't, all agencies that went there were convinced Iran was not building a weapon until the retard in chief decided to bring out his art of the deal.
>>65040296Why didn't he ensure loyalty and competency before launching the war? Is he retarded?
>>65040403After Obama, the Democrats moved sharply leftward and wanted the Iranian government to become a nuclear power. The best case reason is that they're dangerously naive and believed that Iran was simply frightened of the US and Israel, and that once they had power parity they would no longer be scared and the Islamist Revolutionary government would become peaceful. The worst case and more likely scenario is that they wanted Iran to be able to dictate terms and reduce the power of the United States in the region, because leftists despise the USA as colonialist state that should be destroyed (Israel too, but only because it's a US ally, otherwise they wouldn't give a shit).
>>65040442Because patriotism still existed at the time. Politicians today become 5th columnists the instant their rivals gain power.
>>65040479The only way I can see this mitigated is if the Gulf States chip in their manpower and do the occupation part for/with the US. No one important will complain if Saudi Arabia causes a human rights violation or two due to incompetence and they practically programmed the Persians into what they are today, so they'd be most qualified with engaging them on a cultural level.
>>65040466No nuclear weapons was agreed to by Iran. Then the US said last minute, "actually also stop your fucking ballistic missile program (disarm yourself)". The US did this because Israel demanded Iran be out of the fight for the next step of the Greater Israel project, which is the capture of Lebanon you can see underway, so war was basically demanded by the west with their terms. All this because they can't release the files lmao
>>65040319Who is the monke in the mid? Left is vance monke?
>>65040254Lol
>>65040267>what's wrong with incentivizing the market capitalization of all human sexuality?This exact mentality is why there were 90 year old Afghanis taking pot shots at infantry companies with gunship support
>>65040400Arent the pilot and the WSO meant to stick together in situations like this, why would they rescue one but not the other?
>>65040380>One day, for no reason at all, Iran closed the Strait
>>65040481Pretty sure we've been doing that already.
>>65040479fanatics that cannot feed or provide electricity to a population they try to rule, still lose. Hormuz is not the goal at all, it is actually directly beneficial to the US for it to remain closed.
>>65040458Two key take aways from this interview is that 1) Iranians still want topple the Iranian regime 2) They're angry that America and Israel are bombing Iranian civilians rather than only the Iranian regime.https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2026/03/05/iran-tehran-residenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peYrxBYzKoghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCwMZTG7BYM&pp=0gcJCcQBo7VqN5tD&ra=m>>65040452The school that America bombed was a school for 10 years, it was walled off from the IRGC naval base
>>65040501wso's are nerds the pilot probably ditched his ass
>>65040493>Greater IsraelYou people just can't help yourselves.
>>65040006>>65040051kek, miggers and ziggers truly are 2 sides of the same coin. fucking embarassing (i guess jokes on me too because i used to exclusively shit on ziggers and champion these fags, oh well)
>>65040492>if the Gulf States chip in their manpower and do the occupation part for/with the USWith what people? Imported slave labor from india and phillipines?
>>65040501Probably dead but don't want to announce it yet
>>65040500and what do you have against bikinis?
>>65040506>Hormuz is not the goal at all, it is actually directly beneficial to the US for it to remain closed.this fuckin place I swear on me mum
>>65040479>ie an invasion and fighting the resulting insurgency).Why bother fighting the insurgency? Just invade, destroy all their weapon stockpiles and industry, then leave. They can be crazy Muslims all they want, without missiles they're easy to contain.
>>65040511https://www.cfr.org/articles/israel-announces-plan-to-occupy-southern-lebanoni mean you can call it whatever you want, internally it's the Greater Israel project and spans Gaza to Lebanon
>>65040517Well if the US plays it cards right, it could deny China and Cuba oil while forcing all the other countries to buy American oil, effectively giving it a monopoly. The US doesn't need to ship through the straight of Hormuz to get to Europe, Africa, South America, or Australia.
>>65040518Because baiting the US into fighting an insurgency is the only way Iran can win.
>>65040492>The only way I can see this mitigated is if the Gulf States chip in their manpower and do the occupation part for/with the US.Their performance during the recent Yemen conflict sucked though. It would be the US doing all the heavy lifting. Also the Persians and arabs hate each other.
>>65040522>nternally it's the Greater Israel projectIt isn't. Israeli intelligence is good, but they don't have mind control powers that make you shoot rockets at them so they have an excuse to come thump you.
>>65040006Both
>>65040517I can elaborate because that's obviously an inflammatory statement to make without spelling it out.>Iran is an ally of China>Japan is an enemy of China>the US, Japan will go to war with China over Taiwan>95% of Japanese oil is from the middle east>Iran has the power to cut oil from the middle east>Iran has the power to therefore render Japan inoperable by cutting the majority of its oil flow>China buys 90% of Iran's oil>China can tell Iran to cut off Japanese energy when the US goes to war with them over Taiwan>China can force Japanese surrender>Japan owns the most US treasuries >China can own the US while at war>China can force the US' surrender OR you can do what we're doing now>force the middle eastern oil off the market>force a japanese pivot to US oil before the war even starts >US can control Japan by supplying most of its energy>US can own the country holding the most of its treasuries>US can ensure its own hegemon and wins
>>65040533But why would the US do that?
>>65040371You lost, tranny.
>>65040006This thread needs some bug spray.
>>65040544May we see the first downed F35?
>>65040478>So, Iran is the weakest it’s been in a whileThey're the strongest they've been since the revolution. Twenty years ago they wouldn't even have been able to throw their dronestrike tantrum in reaponse to being invaded. Iran at the start of the year was not less of a threat than China. Both of them rely heavily on deterrence through ballistic missiles and drones aimed at American allies nearby, and otherwise their military forces consist largely of knockoff slavshit and a handful of domestic designs that aren't really worth writing home about.The major difference between the two is that Iran has de facto control of the straits leading out of the Persian Gulf and Red Sea, while the US has de facto control of the straits leading away from China. So while there's a quantitative difference between the Iranian and Chinese militaries, there's not much of a qualitative one, and Iran holds a much more important strategic position.
>>65040540that's why they have evidence of the US' elite being pedophiles, so when the Iran peace deal starts looking like it might go through, you can threaten the US into making unrealistic demands of disarmament, forcing the war between the US and Iran, allowing you time and clearance to expand Israeli controlled territory into Lebanon (greater israel)
why we all gotta kill each other? Why can't the world be peaceful.
>>65040501>>65040510from what i understand. one cannot eject without the other. although either can initiate the ejection sequence. to prevent mid-air collisions. there's a short delay in the ejections sequence, probabbly less than 1 second. give the speeds they're going at and cross winds, they can easily land hundreds of metres apart after ejection
>>65040532>>65040547chinese ships are going through hormuz right now
>>65040548Wishful thinking.
>>65040497Our greatest ally btw
>>65040556>that's why they have evidence of the US' elite being pedophilesLike I said: you just can't help it. You can't just subtly nudge a narrative, you HAVE to completely expose yourself every time.
>>65040487https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iaea-does-not-know-status-new-iranian-enrichment-facility-isfahan-grossi-says-2026-03-18/
>>65040532>Well if the US plays it cards right, it could deny China and Cuba oil while forcing all the other countries to buy American oil, effectively giving it a monopoly. I don’t know about other countries but China has built plants for converting coal into diesel/oil right beside their coal mines. It’s not very energy efficient or cost effective but they expect to be cutoff in the event of a Taiwan invasion. Also, oil is a globally traded commodity. If the price of Brent crude stays high then everyone is going to start feeling the resulting pain.
>>65040560So the straight is open, cool.
>>65040472Under advice from legal counsel , I choose not to answer that question.
>>65040006Nafo sisters, i dont feel so goodalso what would of shot it down?
>>65040582>would ofhi thirdie
>>65040574I'm sorry that your current and former presidents all hung out with a mossad agent who sex trafficked little girls and that's why US soldiers must die for Israel, good luck on the battlefields we're all cheering you on bro
>>65040506>fanatics that cannot feed or provide electricity to a population they try to rule, still lose. Hormuz is not the goal at all, it is actually directly beneficial to the US for it to remain closedTell that to the Taliban and the norks.
>>65040589>ohshitohshit he's not retarded, smugly disengage!Okay then.
>>65040461the streak is air to air kills, SAMs kill everything
>>65040582Nafopedos have been down bad recently. How will Drity Diaper Don recover?
There is nothing less American then huffing copium and delusional bullshit, trying to play semantic games or other turdie garbage. Not surprising MAGAs do so just like the ziggers they love so much but a shame to see so many on this board. An American owns the truth, figures out if there was a mistake, whether there was or wasn't it's an opportunity to learn, adapt and do better.
>>65040532First off, your president is allowing Russian oil tankers to deliver fuel to Cuba.Second, the US is a hypercapitalist nation, if a US oil company has to decide between selling oil for $80/b to the US and selling it for $110/b to Singapur they will choose Singapur 99.9% of the time, so you have to raise the price in the domestic market to keep up.
>>65040594ISIS-ruled towns weren't cut off from electricity, neither are NK. There are millions of Iranian people living in a somewhat modern society, removing electricity from their lives would be catastrophic and cause much more social unrest than just living in your sandtown as usual, unbothered mostly by ISIS/US fighting
>entire country butt fucked>shoot down a single aircraft>WE'RE WINNING
>>65040576Are you retarded, Trump ripped up the deal in his first term all the way back in 2018, of course they don't know shit in 2026.Why am I even asking, of course you are retarded.
>>65040607>let me tell you about your country
There really is no recovering from this.Look at SerbiaThey only lost>13,000 men>all of their tanks and armored vehicles>their entire air force>30% of their land mass>their president and governmentBut in return they struck a fatal blow of shooting down a US fighterAnd now, a quarter century later, they still flex their incredible victory over the USHow could you prevent it? What victory could America ever hope for?
>>65040610>>entire country butt fuckednow now muttistan isn't that bad
LMAONAFOFAFO
>>65040614This is just how economies work.Unless you want communist style market control from your government. In fact it's the reason there are higher gas prices in the US right now.
>>65040554>Iran at the start of the year was not less of a threat than ChinaThis is such an absurd take it’s unreal. Iran exports some oil and can shut off some more oil, lng and fertilizer via hormuz. Chinese manufacturing alone is several times more important globally than everything in iran and in all neighborhood countries put together. China can shit out more ballistics in a year than iran can in a decade, and practically an infinite amount of drones (wouldnt be very useful for them tho). Their industrial espionage is second to none. They have dozens of countries bought and paid for when it comes to diplomacy. They have infinite people and a country that’s difficult to infiltrate while Iran is a swiss cheese. They have the second biggest global economy, constantly being modernized, and half the world’s shit is made there. They already engineered and built some of the most impressive megaengineering projects globally, and they objectively work. They have Taiwan right on their border and can stop by far the biggest chip fabs at will, which would cause a global recession on its own overnight. They’re not surrounded from every direction by US bases like Iran is.The only things chinks don’t have is enough oil, sufficient food production for long-term and some of their military toys being Implessive Quantum Dragon variety. Their military has fuck all experience, as well. But practically any other metric Iran ain’t shit compared to china and it’s baffling anyone would argue otherwise.
>>65040622You can't spell Singapore.
>>65040615the North Koreans built an entire museum around an American Jeep they captured
>>65040615Good comparison, because even though the combined might of NATO hammered down on Serbia, which was right next door, they still exist and thrive. Meanwhile Iran is far away and the only partners the US has for this "SMO" are Israel (who don't want to risk a single Israeli) and some middle eastern nations that haven't fought against people that shoot back in decades.
the Iranians are going to surpass the Serbians in how much of a humiliation ritual they can put america throughno planesno oilno economythe american lardfats are gonna have to lose some weight by pushing their F150s around now
please don't drag NATO into thisit's purely the burger's war. we're not involved in it and don't have any plan to ever get involved, thank you for your attention to this mattert. nafoid
>>65040628But I can spell "21% of adults in the US are illiterate"
>>65040633Iran has killed French and Turkish soldiers and NATO has responded with the traditional strongly worded letter
>>65040633lmao how cucked, you're already retreating out of iraq with a shaheed up your asshole
>>65040630>they still exist yea I guess>and thrivelol ok
>>65040633>please don't drag nato into thisnigga drag what, what exactly would you do about it without the US, you have like one operable ship that could go to the Strait at the cost of leaving the UK entirely navally defenseless
>>65040558but he can leave his dork ass in the desert and go bro out with the PJs that picked him up
>>65040615>this is what thirdies unironically believe
>>65040629Why wouldn't they? The loss of the jeep began the American century of humiliation
>>65040100Cyprus is in range of Iranian drones.
>>65040646So why is your President crying so much about it?
>>65040655im canadian so at least wait for my country to collapse in a year before you can call him my President
>>65040051The plane made it back to base on it's own!Eternal flight for pilots of the downed plane!
>>65040264You are a knuckling dragging retard. You are arguing semantics of the second part, but not contextualizing it with the first half. Centcom is refuting the Iranian claim that a US jet was shot down. Therefore using your own semantic logic, in this context "accounted for" implies it's at base or returning. Aka not shot down. Yes we know in a vacuum "accounted for" could mean they know the location of the shootdown/wreckage, but it's was not tweeted in a vacuum you absolute esl nigger.
>>65040627>Iran exports some oil and can shut off some more oil, lng and fertilizer via hormuz.Yeah, they can shut off most of the world's energy supply as well as impacting global food supply, no biggie.>China can shit out more ballistics in a year than iran can in a decade, and practically an infinite amount of dronesThe difference is that Iran has been stockpiling those ballistics and drones for decades, and China has not been. China does not have significantly more of these weapons in service than Iran, and their production of them would be shut off in short order at the start of a war.>The only things chinks don’t have is enough oil, sufficient food production for long-termYou think that an importer of food and energy without control of their shipping lanes isn't at a massive disadvantage? You're delusional.
>>65040630>because even though the combined might of NATO hammered down on Serbiaif only, i'd like to see what would've happened had NATO forces in Serbia had the balls of the Nordbat 2 at least.
>>65040553...no?
>>65040653That's an awfully oriental-looking Jeep.
>>65040661It's funny how accurate this is, the US DoW is literally becoming the Russian MoD.
>>65040577The US could lower the price if they wanted to. The reason the price was low a few months ago was because the US started producing more after it had a falling out with another member of the oil cartel. The US could increase production enough to crash the price if it really wanted to, it just doesn't because it makes more money off of high oil prices.
>>65040557Because the solution to that problem is considered antisemetic.
>>65040368>/k/ope
>>65040673Now it is
>>65040051look at the date
>nobody has considered the possibility it wasn't a shoot-down that cause the F-15E to wreakhmm>>65040051And, shoot down or not, this didn't happen anywhere close to Qeshm Island. The alleged area of the crash, and where all search-and-rescue operations appear to be ongoing, is hundreds of miles away. A F-15E hit near Qeshm is going to teleport to Khuzestan.
>>65040497>Israel >Helping the goyimPick one.
>>65040687*isn't going to>>65040684lol didn't check
>>65040166>>65040153>da rooskie da zigger da poociaDo you guys ever do anything else with your lives? Do you have girlfriends? Do you even own guns? Every. God. Damn. Thread.
>>65040698I just explained what was going on with the posts in my opinion.
>>65040512The “hurr durr zigger vatnik” posters were always anti-American Brits and NAFO troll farms
>>65040698>stop pointing out our shilling
>>65040678The problem is that a lot of US oil costs $120/barrel just to extract and transport and no one thinks it will get that high again. It takes years to ramp up production and no one wants to take the gamble on Iran being able to disrupt global oil prices for that long.
>>65040471WOAH ZASEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea9b2oHX6C8
>>65040604nafofags don't like trump tho
>>65040630>they still exist and thriveThe mission wasn't to destroy them, just to prevent a genocide.
>>65040718>seething about anglo-saxons>seething about nafopeak zigger
>>65040729I know. I'm just saying the US isn't fucked here. This is a temporary pricing problem, not a permanent supply one. Either the straight re-opens or the US increases production. One of those things will happen eventually. If the president (or potentially the oil executives) think a US oil monopoly is worth the short term problems caused by this war then that may be what they're trying to achieve.
>>65040655>picno he'll just let them be raped by mudslimes at home
>>65040721I'm I really supposed to pretend all the iran dicksucking isn't shilling and is an accurate portrayal of reality?
>>65040478>Iran is the weakest it’s been in a while I'm sorry but most of those things would make the case that any other administration would have had an easier time, especially before the Iraq war which was a big gift to Iran. >Iran contained by Saddam>no ATGMs for Hezbollah>less drones>less ballistic missiles>less underground facilities>no "support" from russia>Then Vuvuzela happening that went so well it got Trump feeling bold about a 3 days long SMO, and jews managed to sweet talk him into Iran and now here we are.I believe this.
>>65040718>>65040773Lmao it's an actual ziggy
>>65040780Maduro lost
>>65040775>Welcome to CBS evening news my name is Walter Cronkite>Today American forces achieved a stunning victory in the besieged City of Hué defeating the NVA decisively. This victory is just the latest in battlefield successes where valiant Americans repell the NVA's Tet Offensive. From Ia Drang to Dak To, from the Mekong Delta to Khe Sanh, it has been one stunning success after the other as staggering numbers of dead enemy combatants are reported. This war is as good as won.This is what it all sounds like to me.
>>65040775lol he resorted to vietnam posting to respond to youthese shills have like 3 things to say. its so tiresome
>>65040806>Maduro get's deposed>His party and the military stay in charge of the country>Their oil is now protection money so Diaper Donny doesn't start bombing them like he is doing in IranTo me it looks more like Venezuela lost.
>>65040812>in a major blow to Tehran a bridge has just been blown up in Iran. Iranians farmers are drawing messages into their crop fields begging for more american bombs to liberate them from their evil religious zealot mastersMy shill translator seems to work perfectly
>>65040822Navy status?Airforce status?Leadership status?Cardboard ayatollah status?
>>65040836That's good, since all of those are gone they can't launch drones and missiles any more, mission accomplished!
>>65040775it's not hard to hate you when your president acts like such a fucking lunatic
>>65040822what are you on about?
>>65040858It's not really because of the president, it's because of the 60% of the population who act the same way.
>>65040836>This is a solemn but a glorious hour. I only wish that Jimmy Carter had lived to witness this day. General Milley informs me that the forces of Iran have surrendered to the United States. The flags of freedom fly over the Persian gulf.Yup still works
a-10 sissies..you may need to take a sit for this one..
Fuck me, it really is the F-117 all over again.
>>65040883Oh shit, an A 10 now
The F-35 is unkillable, brownoids seethe again
>>65040490>After Obama, the Democrats moved sharply leftward and wanted the Iranian government to become a nuclear power.source?(we both know there is none)
>>65040893At least Serbia didnt suffer military losses this bad like Iran.
>>65040914I mean Belgrade was still bombed into dust, but yeah.
>>65040254>obliterate iran>one plane gets hit>hahaha US is over iranian victoryit just forces us to get even stronger you know
>>65040006>Was it an F15 or an F35 that was shot down?Yes.
>>65040140>>65040461newfags
>>65040883>>65040904Heh, good joke.Everyone knows the A 10 is indestructible.
>>65040904im gonna wait on a secondary source for this one
>>65040908The actions and behavior of the Democratic Party.
>>65040932Man the third world would be devastated without useless twitter garbage to give them copium hits huh
>>65040413The entire point of having nuclear carriers is that you can have one haul ass and then you have a carrier anywhere in like a week tops
>>65040904I don't want to believe.
so can we get anything besides anonymous sources?
>>65040340The Gulf is more western than current Europe, Progressivism is one way ticket toward self extermination
>>65040574If being mindbroken by Jews isn't an official classified mental illness then nothing is
>>65040615It's so over, American bros... I'm demoralized...
did thirdies win?
>>65040155You don’t even know what woke means you fucking retard haha. Honestly you and your family should be ground down into fertilizer. That way your life may have some value.
>>65040205>what is your shithole doing this weekNot facing a literacy and obesity epidemic
>>65041656Not just one but two actual war crimes in one video
>>65040410"Democracy" allowed the importation of infinite shitskin leeches so it had no utility to begin with. Regardless of your preferred system the previous one fucked up by letting anybody but white men have political influence. The structure of a system matters far less than its constituent members.
