Iranian air defenses have successfully intercepted the second AGM-158 JASSM Cruise Missile in as many days, the first one was either intercepted yesterday or that's when the photos were released.
the first one
ok. why didnt they intercept the missiles that bombed their high command? was getting bombed part of their plan?
>>65044626As far as I can tell, Irans strategy is to do nothing until the US gets complacent in bombing runs then ambush a few planes with manpads
>>65044634>Irans strategy is to do nothingjfc you guys are using this meme outside of talking about xi?
>>65044626>ok. why didnt they intercept the missiles that bombed their high command?Because anti-air is not infallible?>>65044634>As far as I can tell, Irans strategy is to do nothing until the US gets complacent in bombing runs then ambush a few planes with manpadsThey were waiting until the US expends its standoff weaponry and then has to come in close to drop shorter-range missiles before they brought out most of their AA.That's likely why the US Airforce had 3 planes shot down by Iran yesterday and 2 other ones squawking 7700.
>>65044649Im being serious, its suicide to do anything besides chamce ambushes with scattered hardware.
>>65044604
Kinda crazy how Iran just shuts up and takes the abuse long enough to make the enemy think they're out of toys. We saw this last year too.
>>65044626probably because they tried to negotiate in earnest to avoid a fucking war and got goybeamed by israel.
>>65044626Of course!
>>65044626Khamenei is still alive btw,Ai bibi on the other hand.
>>65044626its ideological. dying for the cause is the ultimate virtue. so you see decadent westernerns, the more you kill the leaders the more zuttslamics win!
>>65044728brown take
>>65044634nigger, shut your dumb ass up
>>65044697Westerners like US are overwhelming in conventional war but absolute push overs in the propaganda war. You can see iranian noodle armed slaps getting spammed everywhere as some decisive strategic victory. While CENTCOM best of hits reels get downplayed or ignored. The zutt sluts can't even fully control the precious straight as ships with transponders off slip through constantly. Most stuck are being held back by their insurance providers instead of a real threat Not even mentioning comments sections which, by this point, are just an arms race on whos bot farms are the most spammable. No wonder it was so easy for the kremlin to start pulling washingtons strings
>>65044604The JASSM is not particularly difficult to intercept relative to similar flight profile cruise missiles, the stealth aspect is mostly to avoid detection on the way to the target area. Most air defense systems will have no difficulty tracking stealth munitions at the close ranges that they are visible during low altitude flight (5-10km).
>>65044765Lel, the coping is real
>>65044822from contrarian pro-iranians? yeah, it truly is.
>>65044826>>65044765They're winning the infowar because the messaging from the very top of the US has been contradictory and garbage.>Why are we fighting?I dunno>What's the desired end state?I dunno>What's the timeline?I dunno>What's our casualties?Might be less than 10, might be more, Hegseth is deliberately not saying which is giving scope to wild claimsThe Russians have trained the Iranians how to play the online game, with short punchy lines and clear messaging that appeals to morons and massive online spamming. And the US is playing into their hands by doing the exact opposite
>>65044869around 10 dead guys on a month would be an accounting error in Ukraine, it isn't even a lot when you look back to Iraq 2
>>65044888You're missing the point. In the absence of clear messaging, bullshit propagates unopposed. Jesus Christ this is psyops 101, the shit they teach you in your first day. And so far, the US is not able to provide clear messaging.And it feels like the US military is screaming this at civilian leadership, the need for clarity and the leadership is instead taking the message "We need shorter sentences!" and saying stuff like>Back to the stone age!Which just makes it worse. Because while it's a short punchy line, it doesn't actually provide any information about what's happening.
>>65044898Unfortunately the admin is mostly honest to God fucking retards so no matter the military performance (which has mostly been a roflstomp aside from the frankly embarrassing KC-135 incident) they're just not gonna be able to sell it.
>>65044765It's the nature of the beast known as the internet. The places that heavily restrict access to it are the same ones who abuse the hell out of it for everyone else.I also think that the detractors of the current administration will latch onto anything they think is negative towards the current administration and are so used to doing so they have stopped using their brains.>>65044869>>65044898The message has been very clear since even before the first Tomahawk was fired: stop being fucking twats. The entire world is tired of Iran's shit that they have been pulling off for the past 50 years.
>>65044898You're not the intended audience anonTrump's support base is a dormant demographic of utterly tuned out boomers and gen X who were roused into political action specifically because of loud boisterous messaging that could be shouted a few decibels above the usual political drivel. They don't NEED to be given the most clear and concise messaging because they aren't interested in that, they're interested in hard sounding rhetoric. The phrase "Don't take Trump literally, but take Trump seriously" sums up how it works. He talks mountains of shit every time all the time and adjusts the tone and phrasing as needed and you can glean what's going on from that if you're smarter than a reality TV show host.
>>65044765The funniest part is the western elites own all these platforms and since Trump 2 they just don't moderate it at all. I stopped using twitter years ago but I know several people who left when they saw CP being spammed. They could easily just ban all these anti-western accounts that blatantly lie and spread misinfo to harm the west but they don't because they want the engagement and money.
>>65044898This is just what happens when you elect Donald Trump. There'd be a full blown propaganda run months up to the bombing of Iran. But Trump has never been told no and never asked beforehand for anything. Why wouldn't he just launch a war and provide no details? He's a business man at the end of the day so all he has to say is "It's okay, we're winning" and people will accept it.
>>65044765why would people cheer for the big bad bully that punches down on someone far weaker? especially when the bully is the aggressor? and not just that, the bully in this case is also trump, a person that is basically hated by 90% of humanity.
>>65044956are you deliberately ignoring the 10-30k people the iranian government killed this year during the protests?
>>65044634hey genius I bet Irans strategy is to trick this dumbass orange faggot into sending actual troops into Iran to get VAPORIZED by FPV drones, do they think they're going to meet us on the battlefield for honorable combat or something? Does trump like visualize men fighting with rifles against Iranians? We wont even SEE anyone to shoot small arms at them.
>>65044976who gives a shit?
Since its clear iran doesnt use radar and so Ew is useless now.Could you devise a manoad that can shoot down glidebombsI know the germans were able to shoot them down using flak but what about rockets
>>65044956Iran is not a good place, it is not a good country, and it is not full of good people. In fact the "good Iranians" were abandoned by this orange DIPSHIT when they probably assumed Americans were actually going to come help them.. haha just kidding enjoy the massacre. Now we don't hear anything about that in Iran because a large majority of the opposing populace was just killed. >>65044976
>>65044665>Because anti-air is not infallible?Neither is Low Observability >They were waiting until the US expends its standoff weaponry and then has to come in close to drop shorter-range missiles before they brought out most of their AA.The US has been dropping JDAMs since day 1
>>65045001>punches down on someone far weaker???you implied that Iran was some weak little baby country just sitting there and Trump just came along and knocked the ice cream from their hands???Iran is a hellhole and the largest contributor to terrorist organizations on the entire planet>far weakerwe lost a 20 year occupation in the middle east in about a week, strength is clearly not measured by your MIC when you can fight asymmetrically for 20 years and have the country you leave be worse off then when you got there.
>>65045019the guy who answered you wasnt me.
>>65044976I'm refraining from judgement until I see forensic evidence as should be done with all politically contentious atrocities
>>65045091fuuuck off lol you could be shown a mass grave and you would write it off as fake. you NEED iran to be either middling or good so you can feel better about stanning them.
>>65045019>the largest contributor to terrorist organizations on the entire planet [Citation Needed]
>>65045102Build whatever strawman you want give me evidence or get fucked, simple as
oh no
>>65044976>are you deliberately ignoring the 10-30k people the iranian government killed this year during the protests?Iran released the name of every individual killed already. It was only around 3 thousand, with a large percent being police.No one has showed any name that omitted from the list despite Iran challenging naysayers to do so.
>>6504532030k in one week or whatever would be one of the largest massacres in history let alone the modern era, and yet it is still a ubiquitous talking point. Fundamentally unserious behavior
>>65045332> 30k in one week or whatever would be one of the largest massacres in history let alone the modern eraYea, the fact that there isnt a single photo of streets from Iran covered with dead bodies of protesters itself debunks that laughable narrative. You cannot wipe out 30,000 protesters without ample photographic and video evidence slipping out.
>>65045244>literal who twittershit screencap
>>65044956>why would people cheer for the big bad bully that punches down on someone far weaker? especially when the bully is the aggressor? and not just that, the bully in this case is also Iran, a country that is basically hated by 90% of humanity.Only idiots in the west would ignore all the stupid shit Iran has pulled off these past 50 years.>>65045244doubt.jpgThe supply and locations of missiles like that are a closely guarded secret.
>>65045352he is citing this articlehttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-04/us-deploys-bulk-of-stealthy-long-range-missile-for-iran-war
According to public reports (primarily from early-to-mid 2026 coverage of the U.S.-led Operation Epic Fury against Iran, which began on February 28, 2026), the U.S. pre-war stockpile of JASSM-ER (the extended-range stealthy variant of the AGM-158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, the version most relevant to long-range strikes) was approximately 2,300 missiles.Exact total JASSM-family inventories (including the baseline shorter-range AGM-158A) remain classified as operational security matters, but reports note that roughly two-thirds of combined JASSM and JASSM-ER stockpiles were committed to the Iran conflict.Usage in the Iran war: Public reporting (citing individuals with direct knowledge) indicates that U.S. forces consumed more than 1,000 JASSM-ER missiles in the first four weeks of operations. Nearly the entire pre-war inventory (around 1,800+ committed) was pulled from global stockpiles (including Pacific reserves and CONUS) for strikes on Iranian targets, primarily via B-52 and other bombers in standoff roles. Only about 425 JASSM-ERs remained available worldwide afterward (plus roughly 75 unserviceable due to technical issues or damage). Some reporting refers to “thousands” of JASSM-family missiles used overall, consistent with the heavy reliance on these precision standoff weapons due to Iranian air defenses limiting closer-range strikes.Production rate: Lockheed Martin produces JASSM (including the ER variant) and the related LRASM on a shared line. The scheduled 2026 production rate for the longer-range JASSM-ER version is 396 missiles per year. The line can ramp up to a maximum of 860 JASSM missiles per year (if fully dedicated away from LRASM). This reflects ongoing efforts to expand capacity via prior multi-year contracts and facility investments, but the maximum rate is not the current baseline output.
>>65045364Time to return to pre-war stockpiles: Replenishing the expended/committed missiles (roughly 1,875+ for JASSM-ER alone to restore the ~2,300 level) would take many years at current/scheduled production rates, even at the maximum surge of ~860 per year. Reports explicitly state that replacing what has been used “would take many years’ worth of production at current levels,” due to shared production constraints (e.g., engines also used in Tomahawk), supply-chain bottlenecks, and the time required to fully ramp facilities.These figures come from defense-focused outlets (e.g., SCMP/Bloomberg-sourced reporting in April 2026) and analyses drawing on congressional and industry data. The Pentagon treats precise current inventories as classified and has not publicly confirmed exact numbers or depletion timelines, though Congress has pushed for more transparency and funding to accelerate munitions production amid the conflict. Production surges and multi-year buys were already underway pre-war, but the Iran campaign has highlighted the limits of the industrial base for high-end precision munitions.
IR doesnt care aboit your radar cross section
>>65045366>Does China's recent total cut-off of tungsten exports interfere with restocking the JASSM supply?Yes, according to public reports, China's recent tightening of tungsten export controls (widely described as an effective cut-off for defense-related uses) directly interferes with U.S. efforts to restock JASSM missiles.China produces over 80% of global tungsten supply. Starting in February 2025 (with tungsten products added to export-control lists) and escalating sharply in early 2026 via the "2026 Catalogue of Dual-Use Items," Beijing imposed strict licensing, end-use restrictions, and prohibitions on tungsten products (such as ammonium paratungstate, tungsten oxide, and carbide) for military or dual-use applications. Exports to key partners (including for military end-uses) have fallen by nearly 40%, triggering triple-digit price surges and a global supply crunch. While not a blanket worldwide ban, the controls function as a de facto choke on Western defense access, especially amid U.S.-China tensions. The U.S. itself banned Chinese-origin tungsten in defense contracts starting in 2026–2027 under the National Defense Authorization Act.JASSM specifically relies on tungsten. Public technical descriptions of the AGM-158 (including the JASSM-ER variant) note that the warhead casing/body of the WDU-42/B penetrator uses a tungsten-steel alloy for its density, hardness, and penetration capability against hardened targets. Tungsten is also used more broadly in missile components for high-temperature resistance, guidance systems, and kinetic/energy applications.
>>65045370The Iran conflict (Operation Epic Fury, launched February 28, 2026) has compounded the problem. U.S. and allied strikes have consumed thousands of precision munitions (including JASSM-family weapons), rapidly depleting not just missile inventories but also tungsten stocks—since the metal in expended warheads is not recoverable. Reuters and Foreign Policy reporting in March–April 2026 explicitly state that “every missile fired over Iran is burning through U.S. tungsten stocks,” with the combination of the war, prior Ukraine demand, and Chinese restrictions creating shortages that cannot be quickly replaced. Defense contractors face higher costs (tungsten prices up 150–500% in the past year) and allocation fights for limited non-Chinese supply.Restocking impact: Alternative non-Chinese sources (e.g., Almonty Industries’ Sangdong mine in South Korea, restarts in Portugal/Spain, or planned U.S./allied projects) are years from scaling to meaningful levels—industry estimates range from 3–10 years for a resilient supply chain. The U.S. has no commercial-scale domestic tungsten mining. This adds to the already-cited JASSM production bottlenecks (shared rocket-motor lines, etc.), meaning full replenishment of pre-war JASSM stockpiles will take even longer than the “many years” previously projected.In short, the tungsten squeeze is now a documented constraint on U.S. precision-munitions production and replenishment. Pentagon and industry sources have flagged it as a strategic vulnerability accelerated by the Iran campaign and Chinese policy. Congress and the Defense Department are pushing accelerated allied sourcing and stockpiling, but near-term restocking of JASSM remains hampered.TLDR: The USA is going to run out of JASSMs and similar long-range precision stand-off munitions long before Iran runs out of missiles and drones
>>65045370>Habe fake name country #738282 buy it from china and sell it to youSanctions dont work
>>65044705>DEY WUZ TRYAN SO HAWDIranians truly are the new niggers.
>>65045357>Only idiots in the west would ignore all the stupid shit Iran has pulled off these past 50 years.I don't particularly care for Iran but I think we've meddled in this country for far too long to really have any say for their future. Their resentment towards Americans is increasingly justified. I said what I said.In 1953, we sponsored a coup to remove Mosadegh.In 1979, we refused to return the corrupt Shah. So they took hostages. Odd way to reciprocate, but leverage is leverage.In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. In return, you get Hezbollah and the 83 Embassy bombings, because Iran sees the US and Israel as bonded at the hip.In the 1980s, we helped arm Saddam to fight Iran. This resulted in many Iranians dying. Saddam still got invaded when he was no longer useful.List can go on and on. We can't even negotiate in good faith. I would be expediting a nuke too, it seems to be the only way for the tag team to leave you alone.
>>65045383So we haven't done shit to them in over 50 years, but we're to blame for them funding terrorists all around?I can list all the shit Iran has pulled on us and it will be a lot longer. I don't shed a tear for these retards.
>>65045399>So we haven't done shit to them in over 50 years,Incorrect. The US assassinated a senior member of their security services (Soleimani) in Trump's first term
>>65045377>Sanctions dont workThey are not airtight, but they can significantly slow the acquisition of the material that interfere meaningfully with weapons production, especially as China is asking for certifications that its exports will actually be used as they say
>>65045410after decades of that nigga arming and coordinating terrorist groups. that faggot deserved to get slap chopped
>>65045399Supporting a dictator to invade Iran is pretty damning. How many Americans has Iran killed? Give me a number. Iraq barely counts, but I'll let you count those casualties.
>>65045422>after decades of that nigga arming and coordinating terrorist groups. that faggot deserved to get slap choppedZioslop propaganda that only the most fluoride-addled brain could believe. Soleimani and Iran almost exclusively armed Shia groups who target troops who they perceived as invaders in their countries. You may not like that, but you would probably fight against invaders in your country too, that's not the same as terrorists who bomb civilians. Soleimani and Iran have never aided Sunni terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda that carry out bombing plots against civilians in western countries. The one exception is Hamas, who Iran has aided, and Hamas has targeted Israeli civilians before. But even that gets morally murky and ambiguous, since Hamas is not targeting non-Israelis but is just fighting back against an Israeli occupation and blockade of Gaza. Moreover, Israel itself has has aided Hamas in the past as a way to counter Fatah. And even further, the same justifications that Israel uses to justify targeting Gazan civilians can themselves be used by Hamas to justify attacking Israeli civilians. Only Sunni Salafist terrorists groups have targeted western civilians since left-wing Palestinian terrorism died off in the 1980's, and the funding for all the Sunni Salafist groups comes from sympathetic donors in the Sunni GCC Arab countries.
>>65045449>implying I care what flavor the terrorists are.soimani fucked around and found out
>>65045449iran mourned those who died on 9/11funny how people forget thatalmost like a lot of what we've been told about iran has been a lie. its funny, iran has been playing the long game this whole time, and they may just win in the grand scheme of things. israel doesn't even get missile sirens anymore
>>65045460The people who did 9/11 are literally our allies
>>65044765>Westerners like US are overwhelming in conventional war but absolute push overs in the propaganda war.I think Iran is better at this than Russia is, but I think you need to look at it from both sides, because Iran is really polarized and instead of isolationist righties or Queers for Palestine you have people who radicalized into being Madalyn Murray O'Hair style atheists or Christopher Hitchens who are like billions of mullahs must die fr. The security forces gunned down thousands of people just a few weeks ago. Imagine if there were BLM protests here in America and there were cops driving up to them hidden in the back of ambulances to get close and then popping open the rear doors and spraying the crowd with AK-47 fire.
>>65045461>iran mourned those who died on 9/11true, and the dancing Israelis celebrated the attack before being arrested by the FBI and deportedwe attacked the wrong country after 9/11
>>65045443>supporting a country that is at war with a country is harming your citizens is pretty damningNo, it's not.>>65045449So what you are saying is that Soleimani and Iran have funded terrorist groups that have attacked and killed Americans. Thank you.I also really liked how you claim that Iran would never fund Sunni terrorist groups (like we give a shit which branch of Islamists follow) then proceed to name a Sunni terrorist group that they fund.
>>65045463>stupid tweets and ai videos are winning the war because a provocateur on twitter said 'yoo they clownin on us!'
>>65045472>So what you are saying is that Soleimani and Iran have funded terrorist groups that have attacked and killed Americans. Thank you.Those were effectively militia groups fighting against foreign troops occupying their nation, they were not real terrorists which is usually defined as targeting civilians with attacks for political purposes. Guerilla fighters waging an insurgency war against occupying troops is not real terrorism. >I also really liked how you claim that Iran would never fund Sunni terrorist groupsThey don't fund Sunni groups that target western countries or civilians in those countries for attacks, only ones fighting against the occupation of their own land.From a westerners perspective in Europe or North America, Hamas is irrelevant and has no effect on them. Only Salafist groups targets civilians in western countries. Hamas and Salafist groups like ISIS/Al-Qaeda actually hate each other and attack each other. There is only one category of Islamic terrorist group that presents any threat to westerners living in western countries and Iran does not help or fund any of them, unlike the USA which has aided salafist al-Qaeda-aligned groups in Syria at times and elsewhere in the past.
>>65045488>nooooooo! those terrorists aren't real terrorists!this would almost be funny if you weren't actually serious about this crap
>>65045449>Soleimani and Iran almost exclusively armed Shia groups who target troops who they perceived as invaders in their countries.Well they work through proxies a lot and attack U.S. forces, yes. The Biden administration kept it quiet but there have been hundreds of attacks on U.S. forces after Hamas launched that big attack on Israel. >You may not like that, but you would probably fight against invaders in your country too, that's not the same as terrorists who bomb civilians.Eh, what Iran does in Western countries (from what I can tell) is target Jews, and also targets Iranian dissidents living abroad for assassination. Also Iran has been accused of targeting Western politicians for assassination. Khamanei directly threatened Trump's life (that's not even debatable, he really did, not just alleged like some assassination plots that have been alleged). It usually doesn't make the news, but what will happen is that an Iranian involved in emigre networks will get gunned down one day, or a kosher restaurant in Australia will get a Molotov thrown through the window, or it happens to a synagogue, and it turns out an Iranian fixer hired a gang to do it. Iran also tries to groom Westerners with radical political ideologies to do it. I think more on the far left really. There's a target bank called "The Mapping Project" and I don't have evidence that it's directly linked to Iran, but my little glowie detector starts to beep when I see things like that.
>>65045494>this would almost be funny if you weren't actually serious about this crapCalling Shia militias terrorists for fighting a guerilla war against NATO troops (not civilians) occupying their country is like calling the founding fathers terrorists for fighting a guerilla war against British troops sent to occupy the colonies and restore British control
>>65044976im sure jews bombing school children and power station will help the morale of the 3 million mossad protestors.>>65044765centcom has routinely lied in this war,and most of the strike ive seen from them were old soviet equipment, the heckin decoys and trucks.iran posted multiple shoots of their ad shooting at amerrican aircraft which centcom denied despite wreckage being found,and the only answer shills have had is just mindlessy repeat the script arma footage and AI
>>65045589the only real strike i saw that looked serious was the ammo bunker about a week ago. but something tells me that was just grad rockets and other shit. literally irrelevant if they were taking out launchers we would have so much centcom footage bragging about it.
>>65045589this is such a cope post about centcom strikes I would think it ironic
>>65045589>iran posted multiple shoots of their ad shooting at amerrican aircraftMeanwhile at Iranian state media:
>>65045669https://xcancel.com/CENTCOM/
>>65045696Yes, thats the twitter of centcom? Is your ai busted or something?
>>65045694cringe but kino
>>65045383...is it possible we're the bad guys?
>>65044604oh wow congratufuckinglations i am sure that will bring the ayatollah and irgc commanders back to life. why the fuck is this even a thread?>you shot hundreds of missles at us!>we shot one down!>therefore, we win!theater kid authoritarianism.
>>65045787>>why the fuck is this even a thread?This. The "we shot down a glide bomb/missile" thing happens every hour or less in Ukraine. It's not some achievement to brag about.
>>65045787>the ayatollah and irgc commanders back to>>65044728Khamenei is still alive though, its going to be the apex of this huge humiliation ritual for america once he reveals himself
>>65045811>Khamenei is still alive though, its going to be the apex of this huge humiliation ritual for america once he reveals himselfI am sure of it.
>>65045019>have the country you leave be worse off then when you got therewho fucking cares. i am sick of this being nice to brown people oh noes what about my instabilitiarino faggot bullshit. curb stomp them and leave. they can sort their own country the fuck out afterwards. and if they fuck around kill their leaders again. fuck them. and yeah, you can simply rinse and repeat because they alternative is either these niggers hold the world hostage or you have an in-country quagmire again. nah, fuck them.
>>65045443>How many Americans has Iran killed?start with the marines in beirut i guess.
>>65045828>start with the marines in beirut i guess.They were fighting as combatants in the civil war and not as peacekeepers as officially claimed. Its unfortunate and they never should have been sent their to begin with, but you cannot expect locals to just not hit back when struck.
>>65045811>Khamenei is still alive though, its going to be the apex of this huge humiliation ritual for america once he reveals himself
>>65045359>according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter
>>65045357>The supply and locations of missiles like that are a closely guarded secretWarriortard posts US procurement imagery all the time. It's not a secret how much the US has hoarded.I wonder how much he's seething today given that he spammed hundreds of threads about this wonderwaffen.
>>65045787>NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT MISSILES BEING INTERCEPTED NOOOOOKek fuck you retard, your JASSM spam threads were less interesting than this, cope.
>>65044976And ten billion jews were brutally killed on October 7th.
If Iran can track and shoot these down then china will able to deal with lrasms no problem. Relying on subsonic stealth missiles for your main anti ship weapons instead of ASBMs or hypersonics was a bad idea.
>>65045811>we sink aircraft carrier>we shoot down stealth fighter>we kill neetenyoohoo>tel-itubbi is in ruins>Khamenei is still alive
>>65044765Cope. Everyone knows this is a stupid distraction of a war that serves no strategic purpose.
>>65044649He has a point.>hide>let enemy come close enough then spring an ambush>hope it works out>rinse and repeatIn a proper war, that's just a way to get the entire country flattened. Unfortunately, this isn't a war.
>>65045775Who is we? Iran? They're clearly the bad guys.
>>65044649It's an exceedingly effective way of making complete collapse seem like a clever masterplan instead of just rolling over and dying
>>65046471Speakng of collapse, what's going on with Iran's other military? I've heard nothing about them
>>65044934CP was being spammed from the moment Dorcy took over in 2015, tourist.
>>65046502You mean like the actual military?They're actually demoralized and not getting supplies for some reason, there was a report saying shit like 20 bullets per man. Some reports of defections but nothing huge. I just imagine most people aren't chipper to sit around half starving
>>65044765A big failure in messaging has been the US doing a really fucking bad job of setting out its aims.Nobody is really sure what the US actually considers winning. At one point it was regime change, at another it was complete destruction of offensive capabilities, another has been destruction of the nuclear program, and it keeps going back and forth.That makes it very easy for those on the receiving end to lay out their own narrative of what's happening. They don't actually need to contradict very much of what the other side is saying when they get to define the perception of winning and losing. They also have the advantage of being the underdog against the strongest military power on Earth, when it comes to perception. 'Surviving the US onslaught' is more impressive to people than 'the USAF proving it can bomb the fuck out of you'.Similarly, talking about how much shit you blew up isn't going to convince anyone if their question is 'what are we doing' or 'are we any closer to achieving a goal here' and not 'how much shit are we blowing up'. If people can't give you a good answer and the other side is saying 'we're still here fuckos' then you're not setting yourself up to win the perception of how the war is going.>>65045528Worth noting in the Australian case that the government wanted to make very clear that it was an outside provocation trying to upset the social fabric, and were pissed off enough to kick out the Iranian ambassador and fully sever formal ties.Which is also just good communication. Define the enemy, define the threat, define their goals and define how you're acting against them.Israel's turned a bunch of western societies into a powder keg through Gaza and the response to it, and Iran's been trying to light it.
>>65046553>. At one point it was regime change, at another it was complete destruction of offensive capabilities, another has been destruction of the nuclear program, and it keeps going back and forth.And even worst, all of them are completely unachievable, along with opening Hormuz. At the end, the best they'll be able to say is "We murdered a senior citizen and temporarily degraded their military capabilities for an unknown duration"
>>65046512I guess the actual military. Not the IRGC. Figure the IRGC are the die hard group since they're there to suppress the main military which are there to be a meat shield should shit kick off.
>>65046330>distraction>constantly highlighting how much israeli dick the US government sucksThat's a some distraction m8.
>>65046598>bringing up dicks pidor
>>65046573And then of course there's the uncomfortable question of the cost it came at. Obviously Iran's lost more people and more hardware but people focusing on that are completely missing the point. The point is where this leaves the US and allies on the other end, to deal with other threats.And of course there's the fact that the US very much opted into this. If Iran had just spit the dummy and started flinging shit at everyone I think people would be a lot less critical of how the US has conducted itself and what it's achieved.
>>65044705/k/ is far too stupid to understand this.
>>65046602>covering for kicks by pretending not to know the difference between metaphorical fellatio and russian actual faggotry.Also Russia is run by jews even moreso and antisemitism is illegal there.
>>65045416>especially as China is asking for certifications that its exports will actually be used as they sayYou mean how China is getting around this in ways with current sanctions as well? Is this like when China says carriers were useless, because they got carrier killing missiles, then proceeded to push through domestic carrier production?
>suppressinf enemy radar, im launchimg the H-ACK
>>65045102Can we see the mass grave? Do you have a picture? 30,000 bodies should leave some physical evidence, so can you present it?
>>65044976Let's see those 30k bodies
>>65047343lol ur brown
Only women and leftists have an issue with the war itself, people just want it carried out in a competent mannerblowing up brown people is all well and good but it has to lead to something, and so far it doesn't seem like there's much of a goal aside from 'lel missile go whoosh'
>>65047537Nah, I don't want my countrymen dying for Israel. Try to be less of a zogbot.
>>65047566so far nobody's dying, for pissrael or otherwiseyou're brown btw
>>65046636>THEY WAS GOOD BOYS DEY DIDNDU NUFFIN THEY WAS ABOUT TO TURN DEY LIVES AROUNDok
>>65047581Yes they are. So far 15 confirmed death for Israel.
>>65047630>fifteen soldiers dead in 5 weeksyea it's so fucking embarrassing for ragheads I wouldn't want to bring it upif you want a comparison,there are over 8000 deaths per day in US proper from all causes, which is almost 300k since the war began
>>65044914>The entire world is tired of Iran's shit that they have been pulling off for the past 50 years.Like?
>>65045775No. That list of events conveniently leaves out what happened right before, like how Mosadegh was a Soviet asset that couped the legitimate government of Iran in 1952 or how Arab militias in Lebanon were attacking Israeli towns in the late 70s.
>>65047343i'm glad your thread was deleted
>>65045370>no more tungsten >:(You really don't want us to replace that shit with DU, trust me man.
>>65047343Kek a scathing get poignant deduction
>>65045811>once he reveals himselfI cant wait for the inevitable power struggle once it comes out that royal line is extinguished
>>65046502If you are talking about ground forces the IRGC has begun conscripting children to make up numbers
>>65046553The reason the US does not appear to have a coherent set of goals is because it doesn't, the president did not think this exercise through any further than "I'm gonna bomb Iran and its gonna be great!"
>>65045694This is actually so bad that it's good.
>>65044914>"The message has been very clear">vague bullshit and outright lies
>>65045694Cinema
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>>65047839> You really don't want us to replace that shit with DU, trust me man.And you dont want Iran striking Dimona directly or attaching dirty bombs to its MRBMs which it’s already capable of
>>65048212Nobody cares if Iran eradicates Israel. If Iran had a realistic capability to attack the US in any significant way, they would have done it long ago.
>>65048225> Nobody cares if Iran eradicates Israel.You bet you ass Zion Don and his donors who call the shots care
>>65044649>xi invented doing nothing
>>65048110>America is so wealthy, so insanely powerful, it will happily sacrifice all that to rescue one guy Yes.
>>65044604Reminder, LRASM is built off of JASSM. Enjoy taking on China.
>>65048266>Enjoy taking on China.You have no idea how much we're looking forward to the opportunity.
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>>65046553>>65047970The sheer retardation.The (obvious) reason they can't give clearly delineated goals is because this is preemptive strike in a forthcoming 2027 Pacific War, an anticipated crisis which inspires everything about current Pentagon war planning.The hard sell is that they may have already succeeded, but now need to deal with a generational diplomatic fallout.Before Trump even became President, this was their believed crisis:>Neo-'Axis': China, Russia, Iran, North Korea>China-Taiwan tensions heat up toward American intervention>China cooperates with Iran and Russia to launch a multi-front surprise drone/missile/air attack on American powers bases (mainly in the ME and Asia, not Europe), NK plays role, with further support bases in NA provisioned by Venezuela and Cuba>China launches blitz against Taiwan>bolstered by ceaseless cyber and infowar attacks, breaking American will and causing mass chaos (remember these countries have very sophisticated infowar units spread through dozens of countries, with sim farms even in the West)What we saw in the opening days of the conflict: mass sudden bombings on US/Allied assets, flood of AI slop and misinfo campaigns, was a tiny taste. And BRICS shills in the West were calling the end of the American empire even then.To prevent this, they needed to do several things:1. Pop off and isolate Axis partners 1 by 1: Venezuela, Cuba, Iran. Bolster US partner def (Saudi, UAE, (((Israel))))2. Corner global energy (oil), drain Chinese reserves (just check petrol prices in China, and their energy prices are state-mandated!)3. Prove and test weapons (AKA "our shit works, yours doesn't").4. Test their well-honed decapitation strategy (GWOT paid off). Not a silver bullet, but makes future foes think real carefully about fighting the US.5. Prove to China/Russia that the US is paying attentionNone of current events make sense unless you understand the coming Pacific War. Which may have been prevented.>knower
>>65048395It should also be emphasized: it does not matter if the Iran War is a categorical failure in terms of regime change. The most important part is that the US crippled Iran's launcher capabilities, that the local ME nations invest more in AD, and that Iran is no longer able to launch a massed surprise attack via drones, missiles, and militias acting on land, sea, and air in tandem with another partner's attack against American assets. American military and geopolitical planning since Korea has always been about containment and long-term reduction, not destruction. They've only bucked this trend once in nearly 80 years: the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Not even Afghanistan or Desert Storm were outside this containment model.This produces wars which at times seem short-term failures, but in the long term expand American power. These types of conflicts are also very difficult to sell electorally, because the public believes itself to be jaded and disillusioned
>>65048437> The most important part is that the US crippled Iran's launcher capabilitiesNigger are you retarded? They have consistently launched 40-60 missiles every day for the last month. Israel is getting hit every single day.
>>65048468You should stop huffing lead paint and learn how to read a paragraph.> Iran is no longer able to launch a massed surprise attack via drones, missiles, and militias acting on land, sea, and air It's the difference between being hit by rain drops over time after seeing it's raining, and having a bucket of water thrown on your head while you're sleeping.They don't need to annihilate Iran for their ultimate aims, that's the point.
>>65044976>deliberately ignoringNo, I just hope that both sides lose
>>65048506> Iran is no longer able to launch a massed surprise attack via drones, missiles, and militias acting on land, sea, and airYes they are wtf are you smoking? Shia militias have already forced the US out of everywhere in Iraq except for Iraqi Kurdistan.Masses drone and missiles attacks are being launched every day in coordinated groups, they just dont need to launch 200+ per day anymore because the US radar system in the region has been largely disabled already and they are conserving for the long haul of many more months
>>65048533>they just dont need to launch 200+ per day anymore becauseHOLY>C>O>P>E
>>65048468>>65048533>our nigger-gorillers with AKs and RPGs are a super weapon that have forced out US forces everywhere>we've conveniently let the US have some bases to kill our leaders and bomb our bridges because we're generous or somethingThe turd world coping is getting out of hand.
>>65048395>it's actually 5d chessI'm pretty sure it's ol' Dorito Donny and his cabinet of yes-men thinking they could do Maduro 2: Electric Boogaloo, but with strikes to cripple a country instead of Delta bagging an unpopular head of state.
