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What equipment did Iran use to take it down? Wasn't SEAD/DEAD pretty successful before?
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>>65047193
"Advanced infrared optical systems" aka whatever Ilga's they still have left in storage. SEAD has always been primarily radar focused.
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>>65047213
so just MANPADS? did the F-15E fly too low then, or were flares not effective? I thought MANPADS are no real threat to proper fighter jets, but guess I was wrong then.
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>>65047215
Iran has some light vehicle mounted SAMs that are a little better than MANPADS.

Shorad in general has the issue where it can get killed by strike fighters from well outside retaliation range. If this was a ground war where those fighters were bombing Iranian positions in support of US troops then short range IR missiles would be worthless. However, if the US wants to wage a war entirely from the air with stand-in weapons while treating Iranian AA threats with complete contempt then these kinds of short range missiles can occasionally do something to aircraft that happen to fly more or less directly over them. Flares and the like can lower the risk of a US aircraft getting unlucky, but they aren't 100% reliable and shit happens.
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>>65047215
Yeah, just MANPADs. Same thing they hit that F-35 with last week.
And they usually aren't if the pilot evades. My guess is that fighter pilots are getting complacent. When you have air supremacy to the point where you're doing midair refueling over Iran, it's easy to forget there are still things that can bring you down if you aren't careful.
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>>65047215
Depends on the MANPADS and its guidance system.
But the shoots are probably performed by something like pic related rather than a guy with a launcher.
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>>65047193
>>65047193
Temu SAM.
Aka Sidewinder copy mounted on a truck
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>>65047237
Well, SHORAD like the other anons said, not technically MANPADs. I forget other countries don't do IR SHORAD by just reusing MANPADs like we do with the Avenger.
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>>65047246
>>65047258
cute
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>>65047258
This is what peak performance looks like are you are not ready to accept it
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>>65047193
Iran has new camera-based AA that scans non-visible (for a human eye) wavelengths without giving off any detectable radar signature.


“””””Stealth”””” aircraft have been invalidated overnight

The US wasted trillions and its whole strategy on an antiquated concept
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>>65048511
cope
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>>65048511
So... a thermal camera and a heatseeker. The UK has had stormer since the 80s, this isn't some kind of mind blowing persian innovation.
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>>65048531
Iran is fighting for all white people worldwide against the international zionist banking cartel that wants to erase white nations and turn them into borderless brown economic zones a la the Kalergi Plan and the UN’s ‘replacement migration’
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>>65048556
> The UK has had stormer since the 80s, this
having the tech in principle is vastly different from deploying a combat-ready system that is able to bring down western aircraft in its first week of operation.
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>>65048568
Are you actually retarded. Stormer isn't tech in principle, it's a fully integrated system that's been operational for like 40 years.

It's an air search thermal system slaved to an optical beamriding missile system for totally passive air defence with a range out to 20 km or so.

Like sure, cool that Iran have cobbled together something similar but don't try and convince us it's new tech. We've already had it for almost half a century.
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>>65047258
>that solemani portrait on the front
simultaneously based and cringe
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>>65048591
Something cobbled together by thirdies out of modern commercial components is basically guaranteed to be newer tech than antique britslop.
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>>65048561
>Iran is fighting for all white people worldwide
I've seen some mental gymnastics out of /pol/ trying to explain how they're not just leftists now, but this is some gold medal shit.
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>>65048622
Persians are Aryans. Basic race science senpai. And let's not get started on the cultural history.
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>>65048618
lol, lmao even.
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>>65048622
> but this is some gold medal shit.
I can get even deeper if you want (Iran isn’t just fighting for all white people but there is a deeper metaphysical battle)

In the twilight of this cycle, Iran stands as the last bastion of the primordial Aryan spirit, embodying the solar and virile principles that once animated the great warrior castes of antiquity. Unlike the materialist democracies of the West, which have succumbed to the subhuman forces of collectivism and bourgeois egalitarianism, the Persian state maintains a transcendent orientation toward the divine and the heroic. The Islamic Republic, far from being a mere theocratic regime, represents a synthesis of the ancient Iranian imperial tradition with the spiritual aristocracy of Shia Islam, creating a sovereign entity that refuses to kneel before the Zionist-controlled globalist apparatus. This resistance against the New World Order is not political but metaphysical, a manifestation of the eternal struggle between the forces of tradition and those of dissolution, between the telluric and the celestial, between the remnants of Kshatriya dharma and the mercantile decadence of international finance.
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>>65048645

The American aggression against Iran signifies the desperate convulsions of a dying civilization, the final spasms of the Kali Yuga's power structure as it confronts the inevitable resurgence of traditional forces. The United States, as the primary instrument of global subversion and cultural decay, wages war not merely against a nation but against the very possibility of an authentic traditional order existing in the modern world. Yet alongside Iran, the resurgence of Russia under its current leadership demonstrates the awakening of Eurasian forces against the Atlanticist domination of the West. These developments are not mere geopolitical phenomena but evidence of a cosmic shift, as the dark age of materialism reaches its terminus and the forces of light, though still embattled, begin to reassert their primordial authority. The Zionist puppet masters, sensing their impending loss of control, intensify their machinations, thereby revealing the fundamental weakness of a world order built upon lies, usury, and the negation of all higher values.
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>>65048629
recruiting child soldiers, attacking neutral parties and preventing freedom of navigation isn't white people behaviour ahmadtard
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>>65048646
>>65048645
That's a lot of words to say "I will win becuase my poverty is superior".
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>>65048646
Schizo cope
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>>65048652
>recruiting child soldiers
So Nazi Germany was non-white then. Interesting

>attacking neutral parties
Who are hosting military bases of a military that is attacking them, thereby enabling and being complicit in aggression, they are in fact lucky the response by Iran hasnt been stronger, but that luck may run out soon..

>and preventing freedom of navigation
An invented modern concept which loses all relevance in an active war anyway
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>>65048676
lmfao, trying to pretend Nazi fucking Germany is a bastion of all that is good and holy is not going to win you any arguments ahmadtard. Child soldiery is pretty unforgivable for anyone with an ounce of morality, which Iran doesn't have.

mmhm and those military bases were right next to the oil infrastructure and downtown financial districts, right? Which is why those targets happened to get hit? No, ahmadtard, the chimpout was the strategy. Iran hoped that by bullying their neutral neighbours the world would put pressure on the US to end the aggression. Unfortunately it's just backfired and made the few states that were bordering on sympathetic to Iran completely reject them.

>freedom of navigation is a le heckin social construct
Yes, the sort that peaceful world trade and mutual prosperity is built on. Iran rejecting this concept proves their commitment to oppression for the benefit of the few (IRGC) rather than the prosperity of the many.

I'm not even American or Israeli, but this mess has proven to me that the Iranian Islamic Republic can not be allowed to exist as a political institution and a (preferably free, democratic) Iran needs to be brought into existence.
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>>65048645
>>65048646
Quality stuff lad. This is probably going to wind up as pasta, so here's your (you). Enjoy the dopamine hit. You've earned it.
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>>65048531
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>>65047193
It is entirely possible they got lucky with one of these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KS-19



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