trying to find a picture posted years ago. it showed two fully loaded sturdy safes side by side in someone's basement. also safe thread
Anyone have experience with these? I hear they're great for the money but have no first-hand experience (or known someone with experience).
Why would I put my guns in a safe?So I can die if there's a break in?
for those familiar with Australian safe requirements, is it worth getting a 150kg safe so I don't have to bolt it down? or should I just get a shit quality Bunnings safe and bolt it to my house? I don't really want to fuck up the carpet with a safe desu
>>65050579>safesWhat are you trying to do? If it's to have some light protection from fire, fill a local regulatory compliance checkbox, or you need to protect from little hands but don't have a dedicated room/closet available, then absolutely, get whatever isn't very expensive.If it's to actually secure valuable funs though then don't get anything that isn't an actual for real UL rated true safe. "Gun safes" are basically 100% scams that are worse than worthless. And it's critical to get the bastards installed correctly (which you can do yourself but you can't just leave it sitting there) or they lose a lot of their protection. Pay attention to what your insurance company says.
>>65050610generally agree. sturdy are about as legit as you can get before UL rated though. 4g body with 3/8" doors. won't stop a plasma torch but still pretty good. also this new captca is unuseable
I'd recommend getting a smaller gun safe and just getting another small safe as your gun collection grows.A big ass gun vault is a pain in the ass to move in and find a suitable spot in the house and of course any gun you want to get out, is _guaranteed_ to be all the way in the back, forcing you to remove a dozen other guns to get at it.
>>65050628>>65050650I won't claim to have dived into sturdy specifically, but stuff like "4g body with 3/8" doors" makes me nervous because the devil is in the details with real safes. Just the weight alone is a quick gut check. The smallest "heavy duty" safe I see them offer is a 24"x19"x60", but weighs only 600lbs in its base config. A Gardall Z3620 is similar volume, only UL B-Rated which is the absolute minimum rating most insurance companies would accept. But it weighs 940 lbs. Something that is full scale TL-30 rated like the AmSec CF5524 is nearly 2700 lbs. There's no getting around raw metal/concrete nor having extremely precise fitting.Which might be entirely overkill for sure! Not everyone needs to give a shit about burglary protection really, I mean that unironically, lots of anons are in areas where home breakins happen basically never. Or can be handled by building security or some other layer for that matter. But if you're worried about theft specifically think about the flip side of things like:>A big ass gun vault is a pain in the ass to move inthis is equivalent to writing>this other safe would be easy to just steal the whole thingIf it's easy to get in it's easy to get out. They don't have to break into it there, they can just yank the thing then get in at their leisure later.
>>65050579>not converting a storm shelter to an armory box
Seriously, you could fit everything in there, you could make the front half just for regular shit like ur lawnmower and partition the back 4 feet for your guns.
>>65050878>>65050879>what if instead of putting your guns in a safe you put them in a big heavy box with a tough doorwow. almost like a safe isn't it? except for the fact it doesn't have a fucking lock
>>65050915Also has external hinges and just in general is not designed for protection from criminals but from the environment. But see >>65050706, a lot of people on /k/ with lots of guns are also rural and the risk factors are indeed environmental. People breaking into barns is very rare, barns burning down sadly is not. A properly placed storm shelter, maybe with a camera and extra lock or something added on, doesn't seem like the worst idea for something durable where you could put a lot of stuff for not too much money.
>>65050706>If it's easy to get in it's easy to get out.There are holes in the back on 16" centers so they can be bolted to the wall studs.Most burglaries are quick smash-and-grabs carried out by crackheads, if an actual skilled burglar wants your shit, a big gun safe isn't going to stop him.
