And money isn't a problem, would /k/ turn their body into a weapon or do you prefer to keep your weapons separate? Personally, I wouldn't mind a shotgun arm.
>>65054206All I can think about seeing this is how much rust and corrosion around the joints would suckAs well as how much dead skin and other gunk from the organic parts would get stuck in between.
currently imagining a malfunction or ND/UD while holding your loved ones or handing over money at the register
>>65054320the worst part is it wouldn't even be an accident
>>65054327You can avoid it by simply not overdo it like a damn junkie.
Wolverine claws>butWolverine claws>b-but that's gayWolverine claws
>>65054393>avoid it
Just give me a full body prosthetic like The Major. That counts as one item so I won't have any psychosis problems.
>>65054206A layered system of AI-driven bodyguards and drones is the obvious optimal solution.
>>65054206Why go through the effort of hiding a weapon inside your wrist which will innevitably make it have less space for muscles when you can just replace it with a big gun
>>65054393>>65054327They don't want you to know this, but you can avoid it by not being poor and distressed.
>>65054447It comes from US environment in 80s, when weapons detection in public space was just visual search. May be occasional pat down. "Hidden inside arm blade!" cool right?From today's POV when metal detectors are everywhere and serious places have x-ray machines it looks totally cringe. Retro future.
>>65054206cyberpunk world has too many good weapons to ever consider installing some mall ninja shit onto your armsdatawire or gorilla arms is a good choice, thoat the very least you would need to modify your hand with recoil reduction chrome or a smart link
>>65054206FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH IT DIAGUATED ME
>>65054407>The MajorShe has a name, retard.
>>65054404kind of cute that he chose to sit, just for old times sake
>>65054206If I could make it so I could shoot a high-powered laser out of my dick I would.
>>65056978
Quick question about CyP:77, does power armor still exist? Or has cybernetic modification completely outstripped the performance of power armor?
>>65054206Jesus! That's horrible, how do I even protect against tha... oh, it's just bullshit.
>>65057350Nope, even potential commercial applications like construction use mods instead of external armor. Some mods like the suit David ends up in blur the line a bit since any body part that gets removed can be easily replaced (and probably was already chrome beforehand if we're bing honest) once you're done using it (assuming you can actually survive using the suit). Normal combat gear still exists though (not that it really comes up in gameplay much since you can go around fully stacked while completley naked)
>>65057350Sort of, they're called linear frames I think and are mainly used in construction.
>>65054206Getting one of those is sheer batshit insanity. You can actually kill yourself with this during a sleepwalking episode. It's like sleeping with a gun in hand and finger on the trigger.
>>65054407There is no cyberpsychosis in the GITS universe but they have cyber-Alzheimers in the form of cyber sclerosis.
>>65057350>Quick question about CyP:77, does power armor still exist?Sort of. Militech makes combat exoskeletons and they essentially turn you into a walking bipedal Wiesel.
>>65057555Unless you have a mechanical safety for your weapons you deserve everything that happens to you.
>>65057569Also, they look like civil-construction exos and fire massive staples at you through a rail gun.
>>65054206I’d rather avatar it. Preferably psychically. Can’t say no to clanker pussy thoughever
>>65054206No, my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
>>65057350Why would you wear power armor when subdermal plating exists?
>>65054393or you can embrace it and stop worrying about what the pre-servitors call it
>>65057501I don’t think you’ve actually played the game as there’s a few Cyberpsychos that are dudes bolted into a external frame of power armor that have driven them insane due to either the hardware itself or the hardware and hardcore street drugs in Universe.
>>65054482Really the bigger reality is cyberpsychosis isn't really a defined thing. Playing the missions you get the sense it's just regular situations of mental breakdowns but the person in question is a living weapon which fuels more dissociation. Easier to just write it off instead of actually understanding what transpired.
>>65057350Exosuits exist usually called Linear frames. These can be external or implanted depending. Along with that there are bigger conversions for your body like what Adam Smasher used to have before surviving a nuke but those will probably be limited to military or corpo personnel who can afford the sheer amount of therapy and drugs to keep yourself stable.
>>65058390Ironically though a full body replacement at once causes less humanity loss than a slow replacement of everything, most likely because you are more psychologically aware of the changes. Not a bad deal all things considered if you can handle it, no need to eat or drink(just need monthly injections to keep your brain good), advanced systems in place for most other functions. You still need to sleep though.
>>65054206I would first replace the heart (number 1 cause of death today is heart failure), then eyes (-6 miopia), then reinforce the spine (to carry heavier stuff) before installing any weapons in my body
>>65057564>There is no cyberpsychosis in the GITS universePart of the continuous existential crisis that is the major's personality is usually portrayed as a side-effect of her full body conversion.She's entirely unsure whether she's even human and frequently questions whether there's actually a meat brain inside her shell or whether she's just pure AI/bot.
>>65057350Powered armor exists but you can't use it, only some NPCs can.
>>65054206Cyberpunk completely overlooks that most people wouldn’t want to discard perfectly functional limbs for shit like this, medical complications and all. You can’t even convince a lot of people to get vaccines. The original deus ex had it right where nanoaugs were a huge deal and people who willingly replaced body parts like this were considered weirdo freaks. Then the prequels came and it fucked up everything
>>65054206I just want to replace an eye with one that has optical zoom, night vision, thermal and picture in picture streamingi would put electronic scopes on all my guns and stream it to my eye so I could take aimed shot around the corner or from my hip
>>65056978The load capacity of that sofa is impressive. Do you think fixers that frequent run ins with Smasher reinforce their furniture ahead of time?
>>65059157Reminds me of one of the storylines in GITS that has vaguely stuck with me. If I remember right (been years) there was a serial killer who would forcibly stream video direct to his victims eyeball implants while he skinned them alive.
Anyone that willingly cuts into their flesh for anything other than a life saving intervention is an absolute idiot. Medically we're still in the monkeys banging rocks together stage, shit people die under the knife getting their dick extended. Cyberpunk is a cool game but at the end of the day you'll just be an amputee at the whim of whatever company sold your robot arm. We can't integrate it into your body without your immune system constantly fighting it because it's a foreign object. You'll be like a tranny with a stinky infected dilation hole.
>>65059344Cool luddite speech grandpa. Enjoy dying of turbo cancer exile I shoot rockets out of my face and bang cyberwhores. There is no certainty in flesh but death.
>>65054290When youre going with invasive arm mods youre probably an organ nugget with fake limbs. We also use titanium instead of ferrous material for a reason.
>>65059157I do like what you get at the start that integrates with your firearm and shows you ammo count and aim.
>>65059323I bet Araska buys the good stuff so it'll lastplus Smasher is being considerate and leaning forward on his legs
>>65054206Its quite possible for about 3000 ollars to have a quite light (less than 20KG) system that encompasses AI controlled,FLIR, NV defensive and offensive drone swarm commanded tech that can establish a 500M actionable perimiter and a 1KM observation one, that can be activated and deployed automatically and kill the fuck out of any hostile target, or just permently blind them, including e.g opposition drones or a helicopter, while automatically prioritising targets and defending you even if you are injured and you are talking about a 'shotgun arm'?And yes everything I just described is available NOW to ANYONE with a 130+ IQ and even a passing interest in weapons and technology
>>65059355I'm a grandpa and I can detect and blind you or splatter your guts from 1000M away in a variety of entertaining ways because I can use a soldering iron and read.Firearms are obsolete
>>65059327>If I remember right (been years) there was a serial killer who would forcibly stream video direct to his victims eyeball implants while he skinned them alive.There's a monster in D&D (3.5e Book of Vile Darkness) that sort of does that.
>>65059418>plus Smasher is being considerate and leaning forward on his legsHe's actually quite human when he's not on the job being a menace.He has a completely normal body shell that he uses for social events and is in a relationship with one of the lesser Arasaka daughters (she dies in the board meeting near the end of the game).
>>65059521>He has a completely normal body shell that he uses for social eventsIt looks like Elvis too.
>>65059513ah the good al book of Vile DarknessI remember how giddy me and my brother where when we bought that one. all the more so because our mother's English wasn't good enough to understand just how edgy of a book we had bought.
>>65054397This
>>65059684
>>65059430>implying I will have guts to splatter>implying I won't have an anti drone system built into my chassis>implying I won't track the drone back to it's point of origin, Kool-aid through your wall, then shit on all your furniture
>>65059355>t. Stinky dilating tranny
>>65054206Nope. I am good. However, my coworker and I have had this discussion many times. He would want gorilla arms and legs. Basically make him about to gore you with a punch or be a walking forklift. Not me. I would get exactly what V got in the opening bit. Basic Kiroshis with 10x zoom and an adapter on my hand to let me know specific things. We are engine mechanics. Upload all the tech data directly to the Kiroshis. Let me look at an engine and troubleshoot it. Let me look at a bolt and know the torque value, then use the implement in my hand to torque it with a normal wrench. Let my hand be on/off magnetic to pick up small parts or hold stuff better. Let me zoom in 10x to inspect gear teeth and take snapshots to show customers.In the lore, Kiroshis and the hand scanner thingy are the least invasive and least power-intensive chrome meaning little to no cyberpsychosis or other related ill effects.
>>65054206I CRAVE THE STRENGTH AND CERTAINTY OF STEELI ASPIRE TO THE PURITY OF THE BLESSED MACHINE>>65059430>>65060189Your kind CLINGS to it's flesh as if it will notDECAY and fail You.>>65057657One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.But I am already saved.For the machine is immortal!01000101 01010110 01000101 0100111001001001 01001110 01000100 01000101 01000001 01010100 0100100001001001 01010011 01000101 01010010 01010110 01000101 01010100 01001000 0100010101001111 01001101 01001110 01001001 01010011 01010011 01001001 01000001 01001000
I always imagine having weapons limbs implanted into you is something you inflict on someone and not do to yourself. Then again, my personal aesthetic in regards to augmentations and implants has radically shifted over time as it will never make sense to "willingly" become a ward to whomever can pay for your maintenance.That said, common ones that augment your joints and your back should be fairly commonplace like preparing to get a car because I could see that as something the military would do as part of a benefits package for service.
>>65054206I'd rather get improved senses
>>65060245Based fellow knower, even in death we shall serve the omnissiah. You hyped for saturday?
>>65060262Only because I've got a game night with my mates planned. I don't pay too much attention much to release dates, is it mechanicus 2? I know 11th ed isn't until june, what were you thinking of?
>>65060302Not Mechanicus 2 but the new Ad Mech minis drop. Hastarii heavy weapon squads, and Thulia Ghuld, the first new named Ad Mech character in almost a decade.
>>65060310Shit, really? I saw the datasheets, but didn't think they'd be coming now. Thanks.
>>65060316Yeah, last week Votann got a new named character mini too, you know, if you're one of the 5 people that play/collect Votann.
>>65060336>votannThe squats were eaten by the tyranids, man. Just let that fanfic shit go.Anyway yeah I'd replace so much of my flesh that it'd border on the ultimate tech heresy, rendering no part of me human. I'd ship of theseus my existence into that of metal and circuit piece by piece. Flesh sucks, nature is imperfect, only through me will i be all i could become.
>>65059578>It looks like Elvis too.I thought it was blond?Though I think he does have more than one.
>>65060492>I thought it was blond?It is, but the rest looks like elvis, he basically goes around looking like a blond elvis while dating the CEO's granddaughter.
>>65060492>>65060797Elvis was naturally blond.
>>65059096Cyberpunk doesn't overlook it, it's just that their society by 2077 is like a century past this conversation and is at the point where if you don't have cyberware you're getting totally left behind. Like it's so integrated into society you need implants so you can access your bank account.
>>65054290There's probably not any organic bits left in that arm. Cyberpunk has essentially perfect synthetic skin.
>>65060885To add to this anons post, there is in game lore that tells you a good portion of those NPCs you see with cybernetic limbs likely got them because of an accident, and that's all their insurance would cover, because cloned limbs and organs are a thing in the setting. What you are seeing in the game is the futuristic equivalent of someone in a wheelchair because they got shot in the spine during a robbery gone bad.
>>65060993Society isn’t rife with amputees like this
>>65060885That’s bullshit. The augs would cause a huge amount of medical issues. Most augmentations don’t have real practical daily use. Your grandma doesn’t want mantis claws or stealth camo
>>65061096A lot of them would be easily replaced with a pair of augmented reality glasses or devices that don’t require invasive surgery to place hardware that’s obsolete in a few months
>>65061093I said a good number of them, not all of them, some of them do it for fashion, just like those stupid looking ear gauges and other face piercings you see becoming increasingly common IRL.
>>65061093Not in real life, no, but in CP2077 it is, because Night City is an independent city state where corpos can ignore a lot of safety laws that exist IRL to prevent mass gimpification.
>>65054206I would turn my body into a little girl, which is a sort of weapon I guess, but I would also have separate weapons.Also wolverine claws.
>>65060993A lot of jobs also force you to get implants.
>>65061096>Your grandma doesn’t want mantis claws or stealth camoThat's top end stuff for the real freak mercs, most people just have simple shit like optics, neural implants, links for interfacing with systems/machinery. By 2077 cyberware is stated to be as common as tattoos or jewelry, and most working class people have at least 2-3 pieces of cyberware.
>>65061142Shadowrun is similar where it's noted that some implants have been around long enough that some people get them as 18th birthday presents, even if there's nothing wrong with the organ(s) the implant is replacing. Cyber eye replacement being the most common.
>>65061096>The augs would cause a huge amount of medical issues.Indeed they would anon but the corpo world is dog eat dog and not having the latest stuff means you're gonna be fucked. It's why cyberpsychosis is so rampant.
>>65061093Night City literally has a lottery based on the daily death count in the city. I'm gonna say things are a bit worse there.
>>65061176Should start betting on weekly murder rates in LA on Polymarket
>>65061171oh dude they load kids up with implants in cyberpunk like it's nothingthere are some notes in this mission that reveal how kids that wash out of the training program just get booted back out on the street without any of the medication they need to keep their bodies from rejecting their cyberware
What he >>65059157 said concerning the eyes and enhanced senses in general with the ability to turn them down/off.
>>65061200Don't forget they'll eventually outgrow it, shits fucked for those kids.
>>65061189Night City isn't based on LA, it's actually based on Carmel-by-the-Sea. The implication is that the climate became so fucked up by the year 2077 that the Central California Coast is now a desert and major settlements moved northward turning a once peaceful suburban beach town into a Neon hellscape
>>65054206okay but hear me out here
>>65061096Smart phones cause anxiety, are addictive, lower attention spans and cause car accidents. They're also dirtier than toilet seats. But try living your life without one in a first world country and people will look at you like you're making life harder than it needs to be. Some things like schools and workplaces might even require it and no, they're not going to create a workaround where you don't need one.
>>65061295Hence why real life cosmetic surgeons won't, for example, give anyone under 18 breast implants.
>>65054206hydraulic dick>make it bigger at will>jackhammer through a bitches spine
>>65054206I'm not putting any janky robot shit in my body. I've seen enough computers shit the bed and get increasingly shitty updates and now basically baby sitting production machinery for work, the primary lesson I have learned is that it ALWAYS stop working at some point.
>>65062768So will your bones and organs, and thanks to short sighted politicians you can't swap those out when they fail.
>>65061176>>65061189Night City has 30 murders a day on average, and a population of 7 millionIf it were a real place, it wouldn't be the most dangerous city on earth - but it would be firmly in the top ten, alongside a bunch of Mexican and South African cities.Also note that in the setting Antarctia is considered extraordinarily safe and crime-free, and it has a murder rate comparable to Brazil or Jamaica
>>65061301Thought it was Morro Bay to the south. Carmel is still way north of that.
>>65056969I assumed he was talking about the dude from Hellsing
>>65061142Again, no real point getting invasive hardware inserted into your brain or perfectly functional organs replaced. Get some glasses or use a keyboard. Not linking my brain to a computer just to get it infected with malware. Don’t want to get meningitis when bacteria crawls up a neural implant
>>65063305Maybe? I assumed he was talking about Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell. Dub watching illiterates always refer to her by her title even though she's usually called by name in the cartoon. I think it's because they assumed that the kind of people who watch dubs wouldn't be able to figure out who's being addressed when some characters call her by her personal name, others by her family name, and others by her title, so they just used the title since it's applicable in the most contexts.
>>65054206Why do people pretend like this game is good now, I played it on launch and it was hot fucking garbage. I'm not even talking about the bugs, that was the only fun part about the game.Empty open world, mediocre combat, boring characters. Awful game all the way down.
>>65054320That's why I prefer the modular aug set up that you can get in later editions of Shadowrun. That way you can have your regular going out arms with basic self defense, your fighting arms with the fun stuff, your family time arms without anything other than making you strong enough to hoist your wife and kids, and your loving arms Equipped For Her Pleasure™.
>>65063370I dont know, I didnt play it at launch I picked it up after it was fixed and on sale and I wasnt super impressedmaybe I rushed the main story but the whole game felt very linear and short, then after finishing the main quest I never had a desire to go back and do more sidesthe city was huge but you spent 95% of the game in your home district or locked in a story mission
>>65063398>Only do the main questline>Complain that it's too linearWhat the fuck am I reading? Did you only do the main questline in Skyrim and then complain that there was only 4 hours of content?
>>65063370Some people like MOBA's. It won't make sense however you flip it. Just gotta let it happen.
>>65063322Then picrel is pretty much the only lifestyle available to you>>65063398>but you spent 95% of the game in your home district or locked in a story missionno, (You) did that, other people actually played the rest of the game
>>65063403>>65063626I did this bitches whole story then she didnt let me smash thats probably when I lost my motivation
>>65063640You fucked up somewhere. She did some weird kinky nerve melding sex in a tank with me when I did her story
>>65063640You creeper her out by being a foot fag
>>65063640Are you playing as a female V, anon?
>>65061395No one is pointlessly grafting iPhones onto themselves. Holy shit, a lot of morbidly obese people won’t take glp1s to save their lives because they think injections are icky and here you think you’re going to convince people to tear out their eyes to allow cameras to be shoved into the sockets
>>65063370The game on launch was basically open access. The game is a masterpiece now. The expansion goes so fucking hard.
>>65063738*early access
>>65063738robo birb owes me sex.
>>65054206mantis blades sap away your humanity, i'll pass. trust the all organic ripperdoc
>>65063640>Playing femv>Trying to bang the manfaced spic that murders half her family by being a fucking retard>While best girl is begging you to go on a romantic date scuba diving in the toxic waste lake
>>65054206ngl I've been listening to this shit on repeat for days nowit's actually a nice song in and of itselfI've never played CP2077https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARb6kF30JSQ
>>65063857judy is mexican tho
>>65063875Yeah, but she's not brown or a retard or have a manface.
>>65063727I think the math changes when the implants provide undeniable, tangible improvements (as long as you take your meds)>>65063875>>65063895Everyone in night city is ethnically ambiguous mystery meat.
>>65063899>Everyone in night city is ethnically ambiguous mystery chrome
>>65063899>mystery meatmeredith, the arasaka family, padre, they all have well defined races, white - yellow - mexicanothers look a bit weird, misty would look polish af without the makeup btwmy character was the whitest person in the room, also the most autistic
>>65054206>me waiting for my new body
>>65060245Honestly wonder what a random night city dude would think of a cog boy popping up there. They augments are halriously crude if still advanced beyond what they could come up with. Would they just be mistaken for some malstrom gonks?
>>65063921>meredithHell yeah dude that angry milf was so hot
>>65063921Well the Arasakas are Japanese people from Japan, and Padre is old as dirt, and like >>65063909 points out, people can look however they want, but you're right it's not everybody. Still, the melting pot has done a lot of melting by 2077
>>65063921>>65063899Johnny Silverhand is white. Dude's real name is Robert.
>>65063942Johnny was also born in 1988
>>65063935what are these things anyways? palestinian feminists? I think the npc creators accidentally made super specific ethnic groups while trying to keep it vague, there's also highly jewish looking female npcs
>>65063935>the melting pot has done a lot of melting by 2077Between 1986 and 2026 I watched my little city go from 98% caucasian to at least half the kids I see being mixed race. Mixed race dating/marriage went from rare to normal. It's incredibly common to see white grandparents out with their mulatto grandkids. This is in the middle of the US out in farm country in an extremely red state. That was in 40 years. 2077 is 51 years away. The only "pure" whites will probably only be Mormon by then.
>>65063955this would be the mystery meat, CaucAfroLatAsian-American and 3/128ths NavajoBasically just take every ethnicity in southern california, assign them a random value between 0.25-25% and that's your average cyberpunk NPCThey definitely also put thought into some of the more distinct cultures, there's a video of Mike Pondsmith talking about how the Voodoo Boys in 2077 are mostly Hatian/Dominican immigrants. The USSR still exists too, so there are a lot of Russian speakers as well. Also they game was made by a bunch of Polish-ass Polish people.
>>65063857Judy romance is the best as female V.
>>65054327>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CAN SEE THE BALLISTIC TRAJECTORY OF THINGS I THROW!>HELP ME NIGGERMAN! HELP! I AM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND! PLEASE SOMEBODY I AM GOING CYBERPSYCHO!>AS EVERYONE KNOWS, GETTING STRONGER AND LIFTING CARS AND SHIT WOULD MAKE SOMEBODY GO INSANE! THAT IS WHY BODYBUILDERS IRL ARE ALL UNCONTROLLABLE MUSCLEBEASTS!
>>65054206I NEED a rocket punch.
>rapes and gapes you and your cyberware in you're path
>>65054206>Money isn't a problem The richest fucks in Cyberpunk tend to get a lot of bioware and nanite based tech, rather than big metal implants. This can include shit like skin/muscle/bone lacing to become bulletproof, grafted synthmuscles to become jacked, and fucking venom glands, amongst other things.
>>65064044that's the IRL version of carrying a nuke, but the nuke is also banned by every major corpoideally they would open fire at you for lugging around a rouge AIfenrir also fucks up your chrome, and its legal>>65064085they also get mikoshi'ed, if they're rich enough
>>65064044Pretty disappointing in game.
>>65063344>she's usually called by name in the cartoonDon't ever post on this topic again.
>>65063921>my character was the whitest person in the room, also the most autisticI like the hair, is it a mod?
>>65063931>Would they just be mistaken for some malstrom gonks?I would think so, certainly you would be one clumsy misstep away from everyone around you calling NCPD and asking for maxtac.
>>65054206>be stronger>faster>have capabilities no human has naturally>limb loss is a minor annoyanceof course. Thing is making enough money to afford them without being in debt and have periodic upgrades to newer models
>>65064005I always do my Judy
>>65064027>THAT IS WHY BODYBUILDERS IRL ARE ALL UNCONTROLLABLE MUSCLEBEASTSRoidrage is a thing and cyberpsychosis is just an analogue of that.
>>65064196vanilla hair style 29, extended hair color selection mod>>65064200not every chrome is made equal, some pieces are not even sold to general public like militech apogee, also only the poorest of the poor get bulky boxes as eye implants, instead of kiroshi opticsthis arasaka mantis blade might or might not be museum quality stolen tech demothere exists a giant statue with a giant mock-up of this blade model somewhere in dogtown
>>65064213>vanilla hair style 29, extended hair color selection modHah, I often run the same one but didn't recognise it from behind.Using Merrin-S in red which is pretty similar, I usually try to recreate picrel in games.
>>65064213>also only the poorest of the poor get bulky boxes as eye implants, instead of kiroshi opticsHmm, the Kiroshis cost 20k eddies from Vic don't they? Though that's also the ballistic coprocessor as well I think.Random food costs $5-$20 I think so the price seems to be roughly in line with current era prices. That would make Kiroshis the price of a car, roughly which checks out from the price of cars in-game too.
>>65064218chin number 10 looks just like hers>>65064222I mean there's even a crippled gang member in a wheelchair selling used clothes, are chrome prices for limbs really high but kiroshi is cheaper?cause I assume corpo employees get at least few free chromequantum tuner, an iconic implant is 15K, basic kiroshi at tier 5 is 16K, wonder what % of population uses kiroshi
>>65064242>I mean there's even a crippled gang member in a wheelchair selling used clothes, are chrome prices for limbs really high but kiroshi is cheaper?Didn't he get the chrome before he was crippled but then the tygers threw him out?Gangers probably get used chrome from people who can't pay their debts half the time.Arasaka straight up installs corporate chrome that they continue to own and brick when you're fired.>basic kiroshi at tier 5 is 16K, wonder what % of population uses kiroshiThey're a status symbol but not a ridiculous one, probably a bit more exclusive than the latest iphone. I think in general, a middle-class group of people would only maybe have one person with kiroshis because there's dialogue where people react to someone having kiroshis and Vic makes a big deal out of it when you first get them.The implication is that until the big job, V hasn't been able to chip that kind of chrome. Actually you have to bend over backwards to even afford it when you get it.
>>65064204Roid rage just brings out what people already had issues with.
>>65064261>Roid rage just brings out what people already had issues with.Just like cyber-psychosis.
>>65054206If I could just be a brain inside an armored skeleton, I would be.
>>65064253I'm guessing there are tiers below the optics you get, since so many characters are shown to have at least some form of eye implants
Becoming prophet with an integrated nanosuit would be cool.Wouldn't want to be a nigger though.
>>65059690giwtwm
>>65064199The average techpriest went cyberpsycho decades ago and gets away with it because he spends most of his time hanging out with other cyberpsychos and everyone else has just accepted that they're like that. He absolutely would say the wrong things but depending on his rank he may well be able to handle the response.
>>65063344They normally call her "shōsa" in the sub, which is "major".
>>65064222i think 1 eurodollar = 1 irl dollar, but the stuff you buy ingame scales with you progress so you cant really consider it canon
ok so what kind of technological advancement do we need irl to get prosthetics like in cyberpunk? sensory feedback? maybe batteries?
>>65064994The average techpriest doesn't exist in a setting that has a poorly thought out mechanic that exists only in a failed attempt to prevent munchkinism.
>>65065191I heard somewhere it's more or less accurate to the books, and the average NC citizen only makes around 15,000 eddies a year. The wealth disparity in most cyberpunk settings is insane.
>>65063727... Anon, I think you've confused this discussion about a sci-fi setting 50 years into the future with one about actual, real transhumanism of today.
>>65065198The fusion between metal and meat isn't happening until we completely master both.We master metal, but we are barely beyond cavemen-tier in contrast when it comes to meat.Synthetic organs have to happen first. Synthetic blood, synthetic skin. Regrown organs and lab-vat meat. Remove your eyes and replace them with sharper ones. Remove your lungs and replace them with better ones. Remove your bones and replace them with stronger ones.Only through mastery of meat do we transcend the meat.
>>65063640You missed the timing. She lets you smash her when you're trying the Militech hover-tank for the first time. You fuck inside the tank.
>>65065428Also, if you try to fuck her before that, she friendzones you.
>>65054206>Autistic martial artist with worn joints.Absolutely fucking would, so long as there's countermeasures for shit like >>65054290 or >>65054327.Go for a full body conversion. Titanium skeleton, synthetic muscles, cyberoptics.
>>65066042There is at least one full body conversion in CP that just looks like a regular ass human, and they had them all the way back in 2020.https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Raven_Microcybernetics_Gemini_(2020)
>>65064027>>65054327>>65064204>>65064261I always assumed it was more about a loss of humanity. Like "see the ballistic trajectory of things" probably means your eyes are fake and/or some shit was done to the neural connection between your eyes and your brain. And "lifting heavy shit" would be a complete replacement of your arms.Someone who goes too far augmenting themselves eventually becomes essentially a brain in a mech.>inb4 "hurrr a normal human is just a brain in a flesh mech"
>>65066691Ahhh yes I remember when a buddy of mine got his limbs blown off and replaced with prosthesis, and he lost his mind because his 'humanity' arbitrarily decreasedDude suddenly gained the ability to leap 20 feet into the air and took 200 bullets to the head to kill.
>>65061096>Your grandma doesn’t want mantis claws or stealth camoyou don't know my grandma, bitch
>>65066700>getting a few prosthetics that just replicate the normal functionality of a lost limb is the same as replacing all 4 limbs with inspector gadget shit, as well as your eyes, internal organs, etc.okay
>>65066729You're absolutely right, being able to see in infra red would make people go absolutely insane.That's why famously scientists go around murdering people all the time because they use microscopes and cameras and shit.
>>65066700real world prostheses aren't integrated with your body in the way that cyberware is
>>65066740>goalposts keep moving>can only imagine one thing at a time and only in the most shallow, surface-level manner possible>in service of overanalyzing game logic based in a fictional future settingwow man you should start a webcomic about video games, I bet it'd be a real hit
>>65066691I think, canonically, it's a mix of dissociation due to becoming so inhuman and cybernetics exacerbating pre-existing mental health issues. There are people who go complete cyborg, but manage to keep it together.
>>65066803yeah the main undercurrent is that they're just regular psychos who just happen to have sword arms and double jumps and super speed so it's really easy for them to lose it and go on killing sprees
>>65066803>canonically, it's a mix of dissociation due to becoming so inhumanwatsonian answer: no "mix" about it, it is outright due to the callousness and apathy one acquires for o.g. flesh and blood, since "meh I can just buy a new model organ / limb".doylist answer: it was always just a mechanic to limit the augmetns that Cyberpunk RPG players could buy
>>65061121>like those stupid looking ear gauges and other face piercings you see becoming increasingly common IRL.that fad is over tatoos are too, celebs are getting them all removed
>>65066803>>65066846I like the way in Rifts.Everyone has their mental body image. The farther you stray from that image the more you have mental issues adjusting. A full body cyborg is mostly stable as long as they are still "human".The few that have completely non human bodies are walking arsenals devoted to protecting their people. The sense of duty and family keeps them sane.
>>65066876>The few that have completely non human bodies are walking arsenals devoted to protecting their people. The sense of duty and family keeps them sanethat's like having your cake and eating it too; the whole point is that the lack of body eventually creates apathy and PTSDoh yeah, this is the real source of PTSD that all the psychs don't talk about, because it points at civilians being the problem rather than soldiers: a lot of soldiers came back, saw the petty bullshit that civvys squabble over, saw how society wastes most of its resources on consumerist bullshit, and went off the rails because "this is what we fought for?! this is what they prioritised instead of our war?!"fighting for family sounded good until they came back and their families were breaking themselves up over sex and drugs and rock n roll
>>65066893Counterpoint: those soldiers had a sense of duty and family in the service that was missing at home.
>>65066912>counterpointin addition, I'll add that soldiers tend to be drawn from the lowest rungs of society, so they're not devoid of bad personal habits and life choices themselves>such as joining the armybut I'm just highlighting an important contributory factor to PTSD that is pretty much memoryholed in civvy discourse of PTSD>also I subscribe to an Onlyfans whore whose dad is some full bird or something and I'm just wondering what his thoughts ae on his baby girl's chosen profession
>>65066876I remember the warlords of russia book outright states that the full body borgs don't roll for insanity because their society has a much different view of them than most areas of the planet. They see them as heroes that are sacrificing everything to protect the common man from the horrible monsters that infest the post apocalypse earth of the setting.
>>65066876how would trans people live in that setting
>>65066876>Everyone has their mental body image. The farther you stray from that image the more you have mental issues adjusting.This is how it works in real life too.>>65067179This is literally already what they experience.
>>65065198>ok so what kind of technological advancement do we need irl to get prosthetics like in cyberpunk?We have no decent way to graft metal on to meat. We need some sort of intermediary material that means that there's no skin under the metal/plastic (because it would get gross and infected) and no way for the outside environment to get in between the metal and the skin. I think we need something like a bioplastic that goes under the skin and the skin regrows into it and mates with it at the interface. It's a hard problem.You need neural control of shit and that's barely a functional lab project. Heard anything about neuralink lately?You need biocompatible materials to prevent rejection but also new antibiotics for the gaping wounds you're carving into people and they've got to be super antibiotics that nothing can become resistant to.You also need rapid/instant healing, otherwise a new piece of cyberware means three months of stitches and shit and if you've ever had a plate inserted or a hip replacement or something, you know it basically puts your life on hold for months.>sensory feedback? That's a huge thing, nobody wants a Mr Stud if you don't feel literally everything.>maybe batteries?Power density/generation is one but it's arguably one of the smallest problems. Technically, you could have a cyberarm with a better 18650 that you eject and replace when it ceases holding enough charge.Those diamond lithium wafer batteries or whatever, just make it a replaceable component. Otherwise, you have to make the cyberware be able to run on glucose or ATP and that's probably a harder task.Enough to go on with?
>>65066178>There is at least one full body conversion in CP that just looks like a regular ass humanIn 2077, Adam Smasher has a couple of non-borg shells.
>>65066813>so it's really easy for them to lose it and go on killing spreesWhen you have a mantis blade, everything looks like it needs to be stabbed.>>65066803>I think, canonically, it's a mix of dissociation due to becoming so inhuman and cybernetics exacerbating pre-existing mental health issuesThe mantis blades specifically are said to have had a software issue that caused glitches in the neocortex.The brain-machine interface could absolutely be a source of cyberpsychosis when it goes awry.
>>65068086Don't forget the structural upgrades that would be needed to stitch 20-50lbs of metal onto a skeleton that's evolved for attaching to 5-10lbs of meat. Having a gun arm is super cool until you fire it for the first time and the recoil physically rips it from your shoulder (which you're kind of OK with since the weight meant your shoulder blades were near-vertical when walking anyways).
>>65067179>how would trans people live in that settingThey're fine. Maybe they have a cyberdick/pussy rather than a vat grown graft or genehacked regrown version but it's seamless as far as they're concerned.Arguably, this is shaping their body to their self-image but with good options for reversing it afterwards.Hormonal systems can be controlled by cyberware too.
>>65068137>Don't forget the structural upgrades that would be needed to stitch 20-50lbs of metal onto a skeleton that's evolved for attaching to 5-10lbs of meatYeah, you're not mounting a gun without also reinforcing a bunch of the skeletal and muscular system.In the ttrpg, they approximate some requirements like that but it's piecemeal.
>>65068093I am aware, I was referring to the prosthetic itself, not the procedure or it's patients.
>>65068163>>65068137
>>65068189Well that was a gruesome read, thanks anon.https://www.zipcomic.com/global-frequency-issue-2
>>65054206>gay toothpicksI will carve away the weakness of my body until I am naught but an avatar for the strength of steel.
>>65068189>>65068163You know what? That's retarded. You put on a load-bearing harness when you use it under full load, you take the harness off when you're just making sandwiches.Either that or you go fully Borg from the start.
>>65068279>tard warriorsGo dig a trench, loser.
>>65068612I feel like I'm being double trolled here. On the surface, not only are these quite obviously the Iron Hands, but I feel like you're pretending to misidentify them to imply they're so irrelevant (they aren't) one could honestly make this mistake. Go fuck yourself.
>>65068757>(they aren't)Not him, but imagine getting your second named character ever and having him being even more worthless than the first one.
>>65068800The Iron Hands are the best.
>>65068806>lose most of the legion at Istvaan >lose primarch at Istvaan>most notable character trait is being a bunch of autistic (the boring kind) robo-menIf you're going to drag 40k into the cyberpunk thread, at least do it with the mechanicus
>>65067007Thats metal as fuck. Would.
>>65069518RIFTS may not be the greatest system, but the world building that went into it is pretty good. Another fun fact about that Russia book is that each of the titular warlords has their own full body conversion models they use. My favorite was the one that looked like a mechanical angel.
>>65069518It's funny when you recognize that IRL, the Republicans and the Russian government could bond over their mistreatment of vets any day and the general russian population considers soldiers to be the biggest possible suckers their society can produce.
>>65070474Well in RIFTS the world has gone through multiple invasions by literal giant fuckoff demon armies. Demons from literal Hell(or something close enough that we can't tell the difference)are coming to rape our skulls is a legitimate concern for the average citizen. Such a change in world state would probably also shift opinions of soldiers as well.
>>65064027i mean, you have to imagine your average gta 6 player just instantly being 'upgraded' after swiping a credit chithave you ever seen videos of vloggers using exoskeletons in china? they already have one foot in the door for a clinical diagnosis in an honest world
