POST ALL THINGS IRANIAN MILITARY(any time, any empire)The greatest military minds have consistently taken over Persia and Iran.Alexander beat them.Miltiades, Themistocles, and Pausanius beat them.Khalid ibn al-Walid beat them.Ghengis Kahn beath them.Timur beat them.Lucullus and Trajan beat them.Heraclius beat them.Selim I beat them.Nikolai Baratov beat them.Lionel Dunsterville beat them.Edward Quinan beat them.Andrei Novikov beat them.Saddam Hussein beat them.Where is this invincible Persia? Surely they must have been great one time?
I can't imagine fighting in Iran in all this get-up.
Here we get at least soviet crap on it's own terms, against itself. That's the best measure because US shit stomps it too fast and too completely lol.
1941 invasion by UK-USSR
Brit led Iranian WW1 troops
Representation of Selim I's forces, at least shows style and some weapons.
Sword/knife nerds, pls help. I need your material on iranian produced blades in history.
Heraclius v King of Persia
general image of Trajan era forces
Timur/TamerlaneVery few arms and armor paintings with him, mostly posing/busts.
I actually can't find era representations for this guy.
THEMISTOCLES AND LEONIDAS, 480 BCsame arms and armor in the armies of Miltiades, Themistocles, and Pausanias (right spelling now)
If Iran ever came up with a legit wonderweapon of it's day I'd like to see that, I think they just stole everything Chinese and went PERSIA STRONK!
>>65058912chariots? They had those at some point, right? Cataphracts? Who came up with Iron first?
>>65059045>CataphractsOUTTA MY WAY STEPPE SHITS!
>>65059045I think Hitler suspected they hid mythical weapons?
They just got mogged by this man
>>65059084They also aren't that historically cool right now.
>>65059086That's what happens when a country is taken over by a Muslim regime
>>65059137Excuse me you're supposed to pretend Salafists didn't hijack everything on the Silk Road and claim they invented it.
>>65059162Iran got all senior leadership annihilated, their air defenses are gone, half or more than half it's stock piles are done, their scientists who were working with uranium also got annihilated. Their uranium plants got destroyed. And they just bent the knee to Trump in the last day of his ultimatum. Saying anything else is pure cope.
>>65059162Lol you guys are super desperate to rope Europe in with ziggers.
>>65059250America is apparently a face culture now
>>65059162Obvious D&C shill.
>>65059162For the longest time I forgot Rocky lost the first fight... anyone got a quote from the Iron Sheik on this?
>>65059287Update: he ded
>>65059162>In the eyes of Europeeuro here; fuck off
>>65059279How the fuck is that face culture retard? Face culture is trying to imply that this is a lethal blow to the US' reputation without being able to articulate how Iran wins long term when now they're politically a pariah state that has to hold the strait hostage.
>>65059315Strait Status: Opened by USandA
If Iran is so based why haven't they used nukes on Israel already?
>>65059315>has to hold the strait hostagedang imagine if they didn't have to
>>65058766Nadar Shah was pretty successful before he went completely insane. Napoleon often referenced Nadar Shahs tactics as having significant influence on how he developed his own tactical thought.
>>65059321The irony of this post is palpable
>>65058859The Muslims back then were even more autistic about artistic depictions of people and supposed idolatry than they are today.
>>65059337>>65059353That is now Iran's last hope: threatening to close the strait is now their big move. They lost a lot of teeth to snarl with, no more global intafadas, no more bombing cities into rubble, just global economic damage. No one likes a country which only contributes to Shia terror groups and higher gas prices, thats how Saddam got smacked and then later on invaded fully years down the line.
>>65058766Crushed by the greatest commander the US has ever known, too. Our American Crusader. Strait's open, lads. Every asshurt /pol/tergeist is another Muslim buttbutchered by /ourguy/. Deus vult.
>>65058912They did actually. Archer spam. Unironic cheap archer spam at a time when it was novel to arm a ton of guys with just bows and have them spam arrows at the enemy. These are the "Persians" of Xerxes and before, though, later on they were better known for their disciplined elite cavalry and adopting the horse archer meta via the Parthians who lived in the Northeast part of the Persian Empire.
>>65059162Strait status: Gaped. Trump status: Unstumped
>>65059321Is this what winning looks like?
>>65059447As it turns out, bombing the Iranian leadership did fuck all. The same faction is still in power.
>>65059474The last time we tried total elimination of a regime we got Al Qaeda. Killing the more retarded ones is better long term for us, Iranian people can overthrow them if they want.
Iran wants to win then they'll need to grow some balls and add something spicy to their ballistic missiles.
>>65059190Whatever Chechen is the current champion of the UFC swore that he was going to beat your basement-dwelling ass to death, and he did so every day for weeks, getting more and more threatening every time. He finally shows up to your house, and after he does his damndest to kill you, you come out of it with a broken nose, black eyes, and a cracked rib. You didn’t “win” the fight, but the loss of reputation to the supposed champion for not being able to beat up a random lardass is a bigger loss to them than anything they would have gained from actually killing you.
>>65059190>Iran got all senior leadership annihilatedNot militarily-significant. I mean it's a psychological blow, but most of them were retirement age.
>>65059528>Trump took America to war with the goal of overthrowing the Islamic Republic and installing a new pro-American governmentThe rationale changed serveral times.
>>65059531fuck youUSAF Retired (72-76) | "Aim small, miss small"Current Carry:Colt 1911 Series 70 (.45 ACP—because they don't make a .46!)Smith & Wesson Model 29 (6.5" Barrel)Winchester Model 94 (Pre-'64 only)M1 Garand (The Greatest Battle Implement Ever Devised)The Collection:Ruger Mk II (For the grandkids)Remington 700 (Wood stock, no plastic junk)Quote of the day:"I don't need 17 rounds of 9mm 'Euro-pellets' when one round of .45 ACP does the job. Two World Wars, son. If you can't hit it in six, you shouldn't be pulling the trigger. Stop buying those Tupperware striker-fires and get yourself some real American steel. And for the love of Pete, quit rapid-firing at the indoor range!"- Sent from my iPad
>>65059514>we didn’t need those leaders ackshually!My god the script never changes!
>>65059162Euro here. America obviously won militarily but it was a stupid spat that hurt everyone economically for no good reason. I've got no love for the Iranians though so I miss nothing there. Maybe this will reduce dorito drone production for Ukraine and work out in our favour.>>65059194Americans are trying to position Europe as their enemy by making up things about us. It's the only way they can justify their President is behaving towards us.For example, Trump whining that Britain is a bad ally whilst we let him use our bases, all because we refused to directly engage in a war he started without ever talking to us. After he spent years downplaying the last time we helped and actively working against our interests in Europe.>>65059533I think Trump forgets his reasons for doing things as soon as they leave his mouth, his yes men slobber all over his knob anyway he could pretty much say anything. Every video with him and Hegseth or his other lackeys is "Thanks to our GREAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT DONALD" even if it's something their department achieved it's "thanks to DJT".
>>65059084I forgot about this staged photo op.
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>>65059598>Americans are trying to position Europe as their enemyCome on do you have any new cope instead of this abortion?
>>65059617>>>/o/>>>/k/>>>boomer
>>65059442godblesspresidentdonaldjohntrumpnumber4547sentfrommyiphonesiristop-=*MASTER SGT*=- BUCK Turgidson USMC 81-871968 Wingmaster Gold shotgun1970 El Camino1971 wife"A cold dead hand is worth judged by six and won two world wars!"(NRA LIFER)(GUNSTRUCTOR SILVINGER RANGE MISSOURI 95)(VODA ACADEMY GRADUATE)
Well then back to the original topic: a fun source on ancient iranian warfarehttps://www.bookandsword.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/24_manning_2020-01-16_war_and_soldiers_methodological.pdf
>>65059528Yeah, typical war ending where nobody gets what they really want. Strategically this war hurts us but tactically Iran is so fucked I wouldn't be surprised if the nation collapses within the next year or two after all the damage that's been done. Then again, that boat tax will definitely buy the IRGC time. Crazy thing is a million bucks extra per boat actually does shockingly little to the cost of oil, at most that's just an extra 50 cents to a dollar extra per barrel. It really is like nothing happened at all
>>65059869I wonder what the difference is between that and the increased insurance premiums on shipping in the region?
>>65059869There’s no evidence anyone’s even collecting the boat tax.
>>65059668It's not really cope when your president is shit talking us constantly, doing his best to discredit us as allies despite decades of support we have given your wars whilst openly advocating for invading/annexing European territory.I'm half expecting him to say Britain should give the Falklands to Argentina since Milei is a loyal dickrider of his.Oh and you can add JD Vance going around shilling for Orban despite the fact his party is pretty much proven to be infested with corrupt Russian assets at this point.That's without mentioning his fuckery with tariffs or giving protection to drunk driving Americans who kill Europeans.If that isn't an attempt to distance relations if not outright aggression then I don't know what is.
>>65059084Why do trump simps always artistically portray him with either an average dad bod or muscular instead of actually portraying how obese he is?
>>65059940They're all incredibly gay and in denial about it. That or fatherless or both.
>>65059930For all the constant bitching you retards do about America's contributions to the world wars and how you bring up the storied alliance anytime anyone so much as hints that Europe is slacking on defense spending you guys sure are adament that 4 years of Trump's shit talking is the end of NATO. You've always been prissy little fags but Trump's second term seems to be an ongoing competition between Yuros and Leafs over who can whine the loudest about being oppressed and bullied by mean ol' America. Get over yourselves.
>>65059512So the turdies are back to "you didn't beat me that bad therefore I am the winner"?
>>65060014Is there even proofs of this happening or is this the new cope, because Iran is agreeing to keep things moving.
>>65060020Yeah Im sure Iran's economy is just fine.
>>65060029Lol dream on.
>>65059512>you may have kicked my ass, killed my family, fucked my wife until she liked it, but you see I gave you a black eye so I win!The mind of the post-genghis khan third worlder is an enigma
So did iranian swords develop more as a cavalry weapon or as a function of class or ranks?
>>65060042>getting both of your pope's killed, entire military reduced more than your proxies, losing your entire navy, and having China force you to agree to a ceasefire and open the strait where said the enemy then ignores means you winThe mind of a third worlder is an enigma
>>65059474I dont wanna give undue praise to anyone or try and make copes but I think this was one of those things we really couldn't know until the bombs started dropping. Since we aren't committing to a ground invasion it wont topple externally. But it seems like Iran has made the choice good or bad that their theocratic 1-party rule is what they want. If anyone tried to use back channels to signal a willingness to discuss forming a secular government, I didn't hear anything about it. But unlike Al Qaeda within the larger sphere of MENA factionalism, Iran has done well to not make it's theocratic elements culturally distant so it still would come across as trying to remove Islam from power rather than any specific group. My only hope is that Iraq can get 10-20 years to be relatively left alone so they can finally stabilize. 2003 + ISIS + Iran keep kicking them whenever they try and rebuild and a more stable Iraq would be a good power balancer or at the very least make it harder for stuff passing from the Levant to west/central asia for terrorist uses.
>>65059447>>65059474I'm not a Trump shill by any means but isn't what the armed forces did in Venezuela and Iran at least a little impressive? They kidnapped the president of one country and took out the entire leadership of another and accomplished both operations in a few days each. They might try to keep fighting but it seems like Iran is beaten pretty badly.
>>65061134The important takeaway is that the piece of shit formerly known as Khamenei is dead. He was an evil, ruthless dictator who was responsible for arming terrorist groups and repeated unprovoked attacks on his neighbors. His last moments on this Earth was his country being bombed to shit. May he rest in piss.
>>65061134It's not inaccurate to say that the vast majority of Americans and Europeans are rooting for Iran against Zionist war goals or even basic Western interests like keeping the Strait of Hormuz open, not just third worlders. Most Westerners hate themselves and their own countries and want the US to fail
>>65061312>It's not inaccurate to say that the vast majority of Americans and Europeans are rooting for IranI'd say that's an extremely inaccurate statement. Most people don't have any strong opinions on this war because the average person has no idea what it's even about, they don't understand the buildup to the war involving Irans harsh punishment of anti-government protests or it's unprovoked attacks on its neighbors and arming of terrorist groups. They're completely numb to all the conflicting reports and noise because their only exposure to this war has been twitter screenshots and culture war pundits. To the average person, there is no supervillain to root against like Putin or Saddam Hussein, because the war has been so poorly communicated to the public that people don't even know who Khamenei is. They want the war to be over because they don't understand it.
>>65061502The war isn't over yet. Nobody thinks there are any winners or losers yet you terminally online retard
>>65061502The current Wikipedia Battle Box for the Iran War looks like this and if I were a normalfag looking at this I don't think I'd say that Iran was winning
>>65061502We need to acknowledge that due to the sheer numbers of Indians, the complete lack of intellectual honesty amd abuse of AIsloppa, third worlders control the online narrative. It is why support for Russia remains so high in the global south despite their obvious incompetence and lack of battlefield success. /k/ posters cam shid and piss themselves and stamp their feet and hurl abuse at others all they want, but they cannot deny this reality
>>65061502The average normie isnt reading indians and pakis arguing on X
>>65061525>the Allies lost because the Axis had a bigger K:D ass fucking logic
>>65062067Retard the Axis didnt flatten the allies' military industry.
>>65062071>the Iranian military industry is flattened because Trump said so>the same guy that said the US won on day 1 and wanted to invoke article 5 day 2, get the rest of the world involved on day 3
>>65062090Weird cope but okay.
>>65059287>>65059288"FAHKIN BOOLSHET"
Did anyone mention the part where they sent unarmed children with plastic keys "that would open the gates to heaven for them after martyrdom" to charge through Iraqi minefields? Or what about the part where they got sarin and vx dumped on them and they died like cockroaches getting sprayed with raid? They couldn't even win against their neighbor with 1/3 the population
>>65063249>Iraq starts war to annex Khuzestan>Iraq fails to annex Khuzestan>Iraq "won"holy paradoxteen larp
>>65058766During World War II, Iran was divided roughly in half and occupied north / south by the USSR, and Great Britain.Part of this agreement was to keep the Lend Lease shipments and supplies flowing, also to secure neutral Iran's oil fields.
