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>>65059428
Im 31, should I join the army since they are the ones that only guarantee your job

I wanted 68p diagnostic imaging/rad tech

I saw that it’s difficult to get for air force so I am not too sure about going AF

>>65060272
Personally I'd say 68P is more chill but 68A can be pretty fun if you like digging into electronics. The most annoying part is how long you spend in your initial entry training being treated like shit by drill sergeants. Once you're trained though you will definitely enjoy how comfy those jobs are.

68Ps can go as far forward as a Role 2 (Medical Company, Area Support or Brigade Support Medical Company. Usually set up in the Brigade area). 68As can be assigned as far forward as a Role 2, but when it's not a war they'll do missions all the way forward to a Role 1 (aid stations, the first place a casualty gets assessed). If war kicked off that can be worryingly close to the front, and you'll definitely need to run to bunkers and be ready to quickly pack up and relocate. It's nothing compared to a combat MOS though. Most of the time you'll be back at a field hospital or even farther back at a hard structure hospital. My deployments we had to have our weapons turned in and locked up for most of it (because we're a medical asset. War crimes and all that).

Army can guarantee you the MOS. Air Force it can be more difficult to get the actual MOS after signing. Air Force is definitely less retarded about how it handles medical planning and logistics, though.

>>65060806
>thread didn't bump after this post
OP, why are you insulting yourself?

>>65059428
The Coast Guard right now is moving pretty fast. I had my group meeting at the office for OCS on Monday. I got a call from the LCDR today about scheduling MEPs. Their tone while I was there was super "let's go go go". That's a good sign, I think.

>>65061063
>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-orders-historic-reduction-general-officers-military
Forgot link.

>>65061065
>fox news

>>65060840
>he doesn't know about "sage"
>>65061063
hi, robert

>>65061048
>QRD?

I bet this thread will be gone by the time I wake up, AMA

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Threadly post

Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.

I can also interpret medical DQ concerns. Give me a day or two to respond, likely.
>branch, condition, meds, etcetera.
I cannot answer questions about how deep genesis goes, MEPS doctors, etc. I ain't a MEPS doctor.

>What do you do?
New US MD Graduate, going into residency

>>65062377
And what's the narrative? I only see that posts have been deleted. Are they pro-China/anti-US?

>>65062543
This response sounds political, and therefore off-topic.

>>65062596
>>65062609
So this Robert fellow is a pro-China/anti-US shill? Why give him an American name?

Ok but what pro-China stuff has been posted on /meg/? I haven't seen anything even remotely close to pro-China. Is it really just the picture of Milley in the previous thread?

>>65062692
...so somebody from America is promoting China by posting threads dedicated to US military enlistment...? What does China gain from this, and why would a vatnik be upset with a bugman when Russia and China are on good terms?

>archive shows 30 posts in this thread
>only 15 show here prior to mine
It can't really be just very upset faggot with a BCD behind all of this, can it? Surely it has to be multiple people colluding together. How can one guy be THAT upset after getting kicked out a decade ago?

>>65062700
Posting threads promoting a soft on China military policy using a vatnik as a scapegoat.

>>65062793
Are you sure it isn't just the fact that pictures of Milley seem to really upset one person who comes here to bitch about idpol on a daily basis? Kind of odd that you're taking such offense on behalf of a known mentally ill troll.

>>65062748
someone want to fill me in on the BCD lore? some schizo accused me of being a BCD earlier. apparently it's a meme now? was there a big fight that I missed?

>>65062802
>fat retard gets kicked out of the Army back when Gen Milley was Chairman of JCS
>said retard joined with sole intent of committing war crimes in honor of his idols Oskar Dirlewanger and Robert Bales, along with fetishization of the Soviet-Afghan War (that he conveniently never acknowledges that the Soviets utterly lost)
>retard finds these threads sometime around COVID, starts spending every day shitposting about his unhinged opinions of the military and those that actually got in, saying we should act more like Oskar Dirlewanger and constantly posting pictures of him
>people start connecting dots and realize that he is literally behind ALL of the anti-mil posting in these threads, despite him constantly larping as service members or vets
>retard gets extremely upset that he can't maintain the anonymity that was essential to his grand scheme of undermining opinion of the US military on /k/
>retard doxxes himself when crafting the fake narrative that it's actually two separate guys behind these posts
>retard still doesn't stop and continues to insist he isn't the troll when he gets called out, and instead insists that government intelligence agents are gangstalking him

Keep in mind this is over the span of about 6 years, and yes he posts nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY and ban evades by driving around his city day and night just so he can keep posting here. Truly one of the most unhinged and shameless trolls I have ever encountered, even worse than the guy that makes all of the anti-Sam Hyde threads on /tv/ (yes it literally is one guy from the UK behind all of those threads).

>>65062824
I see, thanks. yeah I don't go into the military threads, but I suppose all board drama eventually spills into all the other threads

>>65062848
He definitely goes to other threads, or just makes his own. Everything he posts gets deleted, hence why you see so many deleted posts here. The retard is trying to construct something with sand on the beach shore and keeps getting upset when it all gets washed away, but never once thought to just go somewhere else. Instead, he believes he can make the ocean itself so frustrated with his stubbornness that the tide will cease to ebb and flow.

Do corporals and sergeants still beat the shit out of you if you fuck up?

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>>65062824
>the guy that makes all of the anti-Sam Hyde threads on /tv/ (yes it literally is one guy from the UK behind all of those threads).
Really? Haha, that's awesome. I've never been so proud of one of my countrymen.

>>65062824
It literally wouldn't be a general thread or a board without a few schizophrenics attempting to ruin the entire thing for everyone else.

>>65062922
Do you think you would have turned out better if they beat the schizophrenia out of you?

>happy 4th of july
>april
a profound level of mental intelligence

>>65062922
God I fucking wish Corporals could instill discipline and punishments to privates.
>t. corporal

>>65063372
Gotta hand it to OP, he has managed to consistently pick pictures that are on-topic yet somehow invite so much butthurt from people who like to go off-topic

>>65059428
>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
>https://pastebin.com/anMENMTD
>No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. >http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png
>tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

Still wrong

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Do any of you niggas work with zoomers younger than Halo 3?

>>65066681
Of course

>>65062824
Doesn't sound as bad as the peridot schizo we had on /co/ for three years. Still, hes an asshole.

Bad Runner. Tomorrow I head to MEPs to ship out. I'm. Utterly terrified. I don't know if I'm physically ready but this is what I have to do.

>>65067924
Well stop worrying because you still have a week of reception before you're really being trained.
There are tons of worse recruits than you, some that will drop out in reception, some that will mentally quit long before their body quits.
Just as long as you refuse to fail at all costs, you will make it. Remember why you are there in the first place.
Don't count the days, try to make it to the next meal instead.
Hundreds of thousands of recruits show up to basic every year. Don't be one of the 10% that stop their training and dont pass. You got this

>>65067924
Be prepared for the weirdest week of your life once you get there. It's like entering the Twilight Zone. You'll hype it all up in your head while on the plane, then get to an AG BN and spend 2-4 days unsure of what time it is or where you are as you walk around getting pieces of clothing and equipment shoved at you by extremely rude civilians in between bouts of medics sticking random vaccines into you. At night you sleep in an open bay with the most retarded dudes on the planet and struggle to keep yourself from going postal when dudes won't shut the fuck up and go to sleep. When it's done you'll actually feel relieved when you go to your real basic training unit since it will have 200% less bullshit.

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Ok, so hypothetical question here I was discussing with an army buddy. I'm not in the military myself so I thought I'd ask here, rather than make a whole new thread.
If someone in was to write some erotic literature about a brand new female 2nd lt fantasising about being railed over the desk and humiliated by her TSM in front of the whole troop, and then further embroidered it with how she gets off fantasising about various humiliating experiences like giving lectures about the importance of regular masturbation where she hands round her soiled knickers, and then he was to give that to his friend as wank material, and he was to give it to his friend and pretty soon it was all over the battlegroup and the characters of the officer and TSM are based on real people, right down to having their real names, how fucked would that guy be if it got traced back to him?
Like it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, a civilian without any military knowledge. But he seemed to think it would be career ending.
As I said, I'm not in the military and this is not like a situation where you ask about a hypothetical but it's actually a real situation like you see in the movies. It was just a drunk conversation between two buddies.

>>65068360
Don't let your CO see it.

>>65068360
Sounds like:
>1. not my problem
>2. not a problem
>3. not going to develop into a problem
>4. a retarded question from a gooner

>>65067967
Thousands have come before me, thousands will come after. I'm a thirty year old man who, for the last twelve years, has felt the warmth and safety of home. I've walked to school, college, and work. I've helped the family however I could. I could not quit this, ever. This is what I must do, for their sake and my own. That is why I have to do this. I'll quit when I'm dead.
>>65068135
Honestly the only thing I may have a slight issue with may be the Covid shot. I'll happily take all the rest save that one. An open bay with dudes, I used to share a room so I'll be used to that. While anxious, its also rather exciting.

I've been annoying these last six months. Asking for advice and peeping in on the conversation now and again but really, thanks you guys. You gave good advice that helped me shave my running to within 24 minutes, down from what, the original 35-37 I had? Push ups have become a bit easier, sit ups a bit easier. I think I can do it, and yall helped.

>>65068902
Early 2023 the covid vax requirement was removed btw. I don't think they even have it in basic anymore.

>>65068902
>>65068923
Just googled it, they might still have it in basic but you have to be ready to say no if you don't want it because it's optional.

>>65068923
>>65068936
Well thats good to know. I'll go ahead and do that. Everything else? Gladly.

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>>65067924
>>65068902
Have fun (you won't have it) and good luck (you won't need it) nigga

I do it for free

>>65069230
>implying
It's just bored active duty guys. A real recruiter would be too busy trying to make numbers each month or getting reamed by his station commander to bother with something that doesn't give him recruit numbers he can claim as his own.

>>65069261
idk bro I'm not a recruiter and hopefully will never be one

>>65069261
Why would answering any of your questions matter? You clearly have some weird bone to pick with mil recruiters, so any reasonable answer that doesn't reinforce your opinion that they are moloch worshipping baby eaters will just go through one ear and out the other.

>>65069517
You wouldn't have responded this way if you weren't positively identified for what you are - an incessant complainer with no win condition or end game.

>>65069609
Keep the thread bumped like a good boy, Robert

how can my friend get out of the military without a BCD?

>>65069614
finish his contract

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>>65069230
>>65069261
>>65069517
>>65069609
>>65069614
>t

>>65069648
It's all he's good for, and so I put him to work. If he wasn't obsessed with "defeating /meg/", he would have gone on a shooting spree years ago (as he has admitted). Who knew that bullying a mentally ill fatty could turn into a social service?

I admire Marines for their ability to stay fit while getting drunk every night. I don't know how they do it. Maybe I just have low T or something.

>>65069633
ok but i mean real answers

>>65069824
That's the realest answer there is. Every other way of getting out of the military fucks you over in one way or another.

>>65068923
>>65068936
Which vaccines are still mandatory in basic? Do they still give the peanut butter one in the asscheek?

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>Americans get Sundays off
>Sundays. Off.
Lol

>>65069960
I'm allergic to penicillin so i never got that one

>>65070373
poopdickschizosayswhat?

Need advice please. I'm considering Army option 40 vs option 4(airborne) right now. I'd like to try RASP but I've still got a little ways to go conditioning-wise.

My 2 mile is like 15 minutes on a good day right now and I can generally hit 10-11 strict pull-ups, and I'm like 10lbs heavier than I probably should be.

I wanna ship to basic ASAP, so I'm wondering if I'll have any opportunity to further my conditioning before RASP with Option 40, or if I should take Option 4 and and face a longer timeline with more opportunity to develop my cardio?

>>65071868
You are not shipping ASAP in your current condition, so stop focusing on that. Research fartleks and start doing some shuttle sprints, as well as build up your leg strength. This process will take months, but nobody said it would be easy.

>>65071868
You're asking if you should go (11B?) Ranger Regiment VS Airborne.
Those are two totally separate things.
If you want to go Ranger Regiment first and foremost then do Option 40 and don't accept any alternative.
Option 4 is Airborne school and airborne only.
Option 4 will likely bring you into an airborne unit after airborne school. So you are not guaranteed to go to RASP with Option 4.
A shit unit chain of command could be total dickheads to you and decide not to let you go to RASP as well.

You sound pretty close in fitness already if you're being honest but there is much work to be done. For starters you would need to max or nearly max out the AFT. Your overall endurance needs to be absolutely top notch too, since RASP is basically all about breaking you down.
Ranger regiment is only for you if you like chewing on rusty nails for enjoyment.
>>65072261
>You are not shipping ASAP in your current condition
You can't see him and only know his 2 mile time and max pull ups so I'm really curious how you are judging his "current condition"?
Also
>This process will take months
Kek as if you just get your legs shredded and endurance conditioned for RASP in a few months.
It's a higher level fitness commitment that you should (ideally) be consistent with from the moment you make up your mind until the day you leave service.

>>65072551
If he is running a 7:30 mile AT BEST, then he is going to struggle. His 2 mile time AT HIS BEST is the standard pace expected for a 12 MILE ruck under worse conditions. Also, did I say "a few months"? No motherfucker, I am emphasizing that this kid is not going to see results in the span of weeks because his shit is all retarded. He is going to flunk if he ships ASAP.

>>65072612
>His 2 mile time AT HIS BEST is the standard pace expected for a 12 MILE ruck under worse conditions
While I agree he should be in better shape before signing an option 40, this comparison makes no sense. You're comparing the time to complete 2 miles with a pace per single mile used for a different modality, making it sound like he will have to ruck 7:30 miles.

>>65072551
Appreciate the insight! Yeah nah I'm basically a /fit/izen so I have a lot of muscle but only really started running last year. I can max out everything on the AFT besides the 2 mile right now.

The thing is basically I'm not married to Ranger school and after airborne school I'd want to basically shoot for either ranger school or SF selection but RASP sounded like the most direct route in general so I wasn't sure what the best move was as far as my run time goes. Thank you for the thoughtful response.

>>65072612
Also I appreciate the bluntness. When I say I'm shipping ASAP I meant that I feel very ready for OSUT but I'm aware it might take me like 6-12mo for me to really feel "ready" for RASP.

>>65072925
Self reply I meant Option 40 sounded most direct

I made up my mind about joining the army soon after the war started. Always wanted to do it, to be in the military, to hold a weapon, to be on the battlefield,... so i was going to chose infantryman or another combat role. I ended up doing pretty good on asvab and started looking at other MOS (as I was told by my recruiter). CBRN specialist sounded pretty cool and I ended up choosing it. Whole process was pretty fast and I swore in 2 weeks ago. Now I'm feeling pretty bad about it despite being really excited about joining the army. I also have option 40, but even if I'll manage to become the ranger what will I be doing? ( also have to get in shape for it first)
So question is will I be able to do cool stuff as CBRN specialist or should I try changing MOS, I'm going to basics in august

>>65073052
You have plenty of time to get in shape. Since you let your recruiter sweet-talk you into picking an objectively shitty MOS, you absolutely need to fucking pass RASP. In Regiment, you will do cool shit, and actually use your MOS skills. In Big Army, you will inventory gas masks and work in the O-room and all kinds of other gay shit that you don't want to do.
What are your fitness stats?

>>65073055
>What are your fitness stats?
I know that it sounds too bad but I simply don't know. I haven't seriously tested myself. Problem is that for past years I have been going to gym only twice per week because of my shitty job, but I'll be completely free at the start of the next month. I'm ready to put my maximum into it, I am, I'm ready to do everything for it.
So uhhh minimum I would say is 8 pull ups, I also tried running a few times after I enlisted, last time i did 2.5 miles in 25 minutes and stopped, I can do better I'm sure. I'm 6.1 and 158lbs. I myself believe that there's a hope for me.

>>65073052
>he signed CBRN
My friend that was in that MOS always said he picked something that was actually good, as his skills were not useful after he got out.
You gotta change or hope you're invulnerable to sports injuries.

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>>65066210
ETN1 Shitass here, I wrote the newer pastebin, and I agree, this is a comically bad read of my intent


Answering Navy/Nuke Questions.

>/MEG/, READ STARSHIP TROOPERS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

Bad Runner here. Didn't panic-leave the hotel last night. I'm at the MEPs, waiting to talk to the councilor. I thought I'd be shivering in anxiety, but I'm just sort of... Bored.

>>65073467
MEPS lets you have your phone? lol
You are becoming institutionalized.
>>65073134
If you want to be in Ranger Regiment you need to work way fucking harder for much longer.
Simply put you might not be able to improve fast enough in 4 months to get to where you need to be.
It takes way more than 3 months of consistent running to get your running pace up to where you need it to be.
A 25 minute 2.5 mile is weak because you will be aiming to run a 2 mile in 13-15 minutes minimum.
RASP is going to kill you.

>>65073134
>158 pounds
Skeleton detected. No fucking surprise you are slow. Insufficient leg muscles.

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>>65073695
>MEPS lets you have your phone?

>>65073134
You might have time for at least a decent trainup, but you need to get your ass in gear and get on a consistent workout schedule starting time now.
This doesn't have to be anything crazy - and if you ramp up the volume and intensity too fast too soon you'll just injure yourself - but you do need to be working instead of thinking about it.
My suggestion would be to take a couple weeks to build up to 3x running sessions a week, aiming for a pace you can hold comfortably while breathing through your nose or talking to a friend without them noticing. This will be slow as fuck but that's the point. Aim for 25 minutes per session to start, then add 10% total volume per week. Every couple weeks, do a fartlek or some hill sprints or some track intervals (400s or 800s). No need to kill yourself on these, just aim for a decently hard pace with at least 1:1.5 work:rest.
Lifting wise, a basic regimen will do, as long as it works every major muscle group 2x a week or so. Test your hand-release pushups, pullups, and a 3 rep hex bar deadlift @ 90% effort or so every 4 weeks, so you can track progress.
The good news is that BCT and AIT will give you a bit more forced exercise which will knock a little off your run times. The not so good news is that this is probably not going to be enough if you want to pass RASP. Once arriving to RASP you will also spend some time in pre RASP, a weird limbo of morning PT and standing around which might give you time to train a bit more and might not, depending on how long you're there.

>>65073830
>Genuine retard thinks all MEPS have the same policies
Incredible.

>Prior service who sort of regrets not going reserve after active duty contract anon
>Air Force Reserve recruiter finally answered
>Set up a meeting with me tomorrow
fuck. While nowhere near as nerve-racking as walking into the active duty recruiting office was, I am still nervous.

>>65073695
You can use your phone in designated places.
Not sure why but I've got a stop before I head to my actual stage. Direct flights, guess they never heard of em.
I am petrified. Swore in but only because the three time enlister beside me managed to calm me down with some advice. Now I just feel kind of numb.

>>65072925
>>65072942
The moment you get there they will try to make you quit. RASP has a ~50% attrition rate so it's all very, very intense.
Try to do a ranger PFT (RPFT) on your own time.
That alone should give you an idea of how much more effort you need to put in.
Right now, basic is a joke for you but RASP is another demon.
I would say 6-12 months of slow and steady improvement is likely if you can focus on training intensely for that long.

>>65075255
Everyone around you is going through the same thing so try your best to enjoy it while it lasts. It will be the best thing you never want to do over.

>>65075367
Let's hope my ankle doesn't do anything. It's been acting up whenever I exercise and I think it's the shoe. A crappy goodwill one.

>>65075502
Oh yeah you are the guy with the shitty pair of shoes lmao dont worry you will have a whole new pair to hate soon

Welp, time to go for the last stop. I've got a two and a half hour flight, think I'll take a nap.
Peace

>>65075567
I don't think anything can compare to these ones, they're killing my ankles.
An hour till Fort Sill. I'll talk to you guys another time.

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>>65075634
>>65076085
Godspeed. Make us proud big dawg
Well I guess you're already running/standing around getting yelled at, I'm probably posting this too late lol

>>65078039
Oh look, he's back

i need a mental health evaluation.
how do i not fuck this up

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Sup /k/, just wondering if anyone knows anything about the US Army Cyber Corps? How is daily life?

I'm a 34 year old civilian working in cyber security, and I've recently been in contact with a Major who has been trying to get me to apply for the Cyber Direct Commission Program, specifically for the Army Reserves. We initially got into contact due to the company I work for being contracted by the DoD.

Pic related, it's from a PDF he emailed me. I know he's probably just doing the typical recruiter blowing smoke up my ass gig, but he's saying my commission would be at least as an O-3/Captain due to having 12 years of experience in the field, a master's degree, and a ton of industry certifications. I've been in contact with a Chief connected to the unit in which I'd be serving and they seem to be really pushing an application, but I've never really even considered the military.

Do you think it would be worth it? I make a lot of money as a civilian, but something about it seems interesting and fun.

Don’t do it.

What role in the army feels most like camping with the bros, sitting around a fire drinking beer & shit?

>>65079680
Sounds like you'd be better off as a wildlife biologist or trail guide.

>>65079696
But I want to be in the army, shooting guns and throwing grenades and stuff. Should I look into the 10th mountain division? It looks promising.

>>65079705
You can't choose where you get stationed unless you go National Guard or Reserves.

>>65079725
Option 19 for Drum

>>65079563
Reserve is way different than active duty.

My recruiters smoked us for an hour at the future soldier meet up today. Jesus christ what did I get myself into?
I can run 5 miles straight but that was way higher intensity.

>>65079563
>Most of the benefits of active duty for part-time work
>Skip BCT
>Start as O-3
>Should give management experience
>TS/SCI (with possible CI Poly)
>You will (probably) see cool shit
That sounds pretty great. Because you've never considered the military I won't* go so far as to immediately say do it, but you should strongly consider it. O-3 pay is presumably significantly less than you're making at the moment, but because your company already works with the DoD, they probably have a good pay differential. If you want inspiration, skim these threads (or Google) for the posts complaining about how hard it is to get an officer recruiter to reply to them. That dude reaching out to you first is an impressive sign.

*Caveat: If the unit you're talking to does spook shit I would call you a retard for not doing it.

I was an Air Force cyber enlistoid, not Army cyber officer, so I can't answer those Army-specific questions.

>>65079725
What inspired you to post this

>>65079725
Either gen X sandbox vet thats been out of the game for years or clueless troll

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>>65059428
ughh can you guys like stay over there and stop coming over here and corrupting our women teaching them to throw gang signs baka my head

>Check Space Force site out of curiosity
>There are more civilian jobs than Enlisted+Officer jobs
Very interesting how these opportunities are tucked away. I imagine this would be a good thing to go for if I get out of the Army.

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>Walks on base for groceries

>"Do you have a discount for veterans?"

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>>65081985
>baka my head

>>65073404
you ever hook up with the watch officers?

>>65084321
Nah

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My recruiter is making all the DEP members take a mock fitness test next week. Even though I am making lots of progress in my fitness, I know I will still fail. Should I make an excuse not to go? The urge to bitch out is real and starting to feel like instinct.

>>65086463
go retard. You need to make the effort while it's still "optional" for you. When you get to basic it won't be optional.

>>65086463
>>65086476
also
You will be getting the piss smoked out of you every fucking day for the first 2 weeks in basic and you will not be asked if you want to do it.
Go, push as hard as you can and just dont quit. At all.

>>65086463
You only get better by trying and trying again.

I've been playing the disability benefits game for a while. Currently up to 90% and deciding whether or not I should go for more.

>>65086624
>what is opportunity cost

Why do enlistoids never learn their actions have consequences? Why do they force the poor officer chad to make the NCO do weekend duty because the enlistoids like to get DUIs?

>>65086665
Why are you bringing up opportunity cost when we are talking about improving your physical fitness? You are getting too theoretical on something as simple as run fast and move your body in different ways a certain number of times.

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Reminder: If your peers are idiots, that means you too are an idiot.

> I swear if I see another person say this to describe the redeeming qualities of a shit hole I will lose it. You might as well tell people there’s an abundance of crack houses or people into swinging.

>Not everyone has your hobby. That’s like me recommending a place because it has good golf courses. It’s a niche hobby that you can’t assume everyone does.

>A shithole is a shithole. I’ll have a 4 for 4 or whatever because this town doesn’t have a Whole Foods.

https://www rebbit com/r/army/comments/1qwkmhc/hunting_and_fishing/

Why cant anyone just admit a place sucks instead of trying to throw a positive spin on it?

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I want to be a Culinary specialist and make amazing food as a world class chief. Explain this photo.

>>65087561
>Explain this photo.
Gladly.
>This post is extremely low quality.

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>>65087638
As the scholar Saint Pete Hagseth once said, "Fake News"

Photo related, Navy boot camp "snack"

>>65087561
Ngl this sounds like bullshit. You get what you want in the chow line, they aren't making trays and handing them to you

>>65087427
>>65087450
>>65087561
>>65087643
Notice how absolutely nobody else came here to make negative comments? No raids, no drivebys, and no proof that you spent 6 years trying to "defeat /meg/". I promised you that nobody would even talk about you if you weren't here, Robert, and you can see that I was right, just as I always am.

>>65088700
Crazy my name is Roberto actually though

>>65088700
Nobody believes your VA volunteer larp. The state of Illinois would not hire somebody who is supposedly associated with a militia that has murdered dozens of people.

>>65062824
>he is literally behind ALL of the anti-mil posting in these threads
You’re retarded if you actually believe. Not saying that he’s not the main problem, but people shitting on the US military isn’t exactly rare on this board.

If a lurker joins any branch today and stays in, in 14 years time they will have reached 14/20 years in service towards retirement pension.
Robert meanwhile will have 20 years of trolling this thread with nothing to show for it still living off of Supplemental Security Income and probably homeless after his parents die of old age.

>>65088912
Sorry sweatie, it's already been proven that the anti-mil posting here is conducted by one very fat faggot from East Peoria, Illinois who is terminally butthurt because he received a Bad Conduct Discharge during BCT back when General Milley was the chairman of JSOC. He gets very VERY upset when his background is discussed, and he tries to slide these threads after his past is brought up, but as you can see his BCD is only ever mentioned AFTER he tries to troll here. Actions, meet consequences.

>>65059428
can you get floss picks in basic? like the floss with the handle on it? and what kind of toothpaste do they have?

>>65090595
i brought some with me (uscg)
dont think px sells

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Total loser anon reporting in.
>Air/Space Force comm/cyber enlistoid veteran
>Trying to join Air Force Reserve
>Meant to autistically post here all weekend, ended up playing Dota with the boys instead
AMA

>>65074350
Update:
The recruiter knowledgemogged me. While it feels good to have someone on my side who's clearly very competent, I also felt emasculated because I have an autistic obsession with knowing my shit, and he destroyed me on that front.
Anyway:
>MHS Genesis effectively did not exist when I initially enlisted into active duty
>Told the recruiter I have an Adderall prescription but I'd like to check no for everything anyway
>Jumped through hoops to opt out of HIEs and information sharing and shit so I thought I was good
>Somehow did not realize the existence of PDMP until last week
>I now assume my prescription will be found (recruiter said the medical results should come back in 2-3 weeks)
>Luckily, because I'm in IRR the enlistment process isn't the usual MEPS assrape process, but instead some streamlined Reserve process I don't know the workings of
>What happens now is a mystery

Also there is a chance I will end up back at Keesler for more training.
>mfw
And if I end up doing 20 years I figure I'll commission at some point, sending my ass back to Keesler AGAIN.
>mfw again
But I don't know if I'm even eligible to reenlist in the first place, so who knows how this will all turn out.

anons I need advice: I'm 32 and always wanted to join the USMC, but was too much of a pussy then. I ran my dad's business since I was 16, but since the pandemic, we closed up shop. I've been trying to start other businesses but they've ended in failure. I don't have the heart to start a new business anymore and just want to join the USMC. I get that I'm gonna be forced to work with high schoolers and will be made to do stupid shit, following orders from DIs or COs younger than me, but I don't want to regret anything when I'm in my dying bed. I want to know how stupid this idea is, because I genuinely have no other purpose in life anymore. I spoke with a recruiter and they said I can get a waiver, but my PFT score isn't the best either and I was never an athletic person. Should I just go to other service branches or should I follow my heart?

>>65091096
That is retarded, but so is not following your dreams. So I guess you should figure out which one of those is less retarded.
Why do you want to join the Marines over a different branch?
>The benefits and shit
The other branches have the same benefits
>I want to do something insanely hardcore
That's what special ops is for
>I want to do something hardcore, but still be a POG
That's what Ranger Regiment is for
>The uniforms are badass
I think the Army's new/classic pinks and greens are almost as nice as the Marine Corps dress blues
>The lava monster commercial
That shit's gotta be almost as old as you
>I like being treated like shit
>I want to experience the brotherhood and shit
>I want to earn the title of United States Marine®
>I want to be one of The Few, The Proud, The Marines™
>I want to be part of a small, combined arms strike force focused on being the tip of the spear of conventional operations, preferably through amphibious means
Okay yeah I guess you should join the Marines. But you should still explain why those matter so much to you.

>>65091096
Youre 4 years past the age limit, brother. I would not join at your age even with a waiver. Join a different branch

Telling my mom that I enlisted was a mistake. I should have waited until the very last day honestly.

>>65087261
Sounds like a /fit/ autist

>>65086463
If you bitch out of a pretest you wouldn’t last

One of my friends is in the Marine Reserves. Most of the people in my social circle are in the military. Most are in the National Guard. during conversation if its relevant they'll say "in the Guard" for example. but my marine friend never says that, and if someone mentioned him being in the reserves or refers to him as being a "marine reservist" he gets really upset about it. Says he's just a "Marine". I don't really get it tho. He is in the reserves so I don't know why he gets pissed. I don't know much about the active duty marine corps but I imagine they'd view him as a reservist too no?

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>>65088847
>The state of Illinois
Robert confirmed Channel Awesome member

>>65091096
>Has luxury of dad's business
>Chooses to become a marine at 32

You know what, you should do it.

Never join the military for anything other than pilot, spec ops or sniper.

The recruiters will try to bamboozle you with some “all jobs are equally important!” BS don’t fall for it they will rob years of your life from you that you’ll never get back.

>>65091647
Fist fight your friend.

>>65091647
Active duty get butt fucked because reservists just treat the entire thing like a voluntary vacation with a chance for promotion. They also get the same benefits essentially doing nothing and mentally break down when on the job since they miss their families and take it out on the everyone else who wasn't stupid enough to get married and have a kid before leaving. So it's a coping mechanism for them to act like entitled children since they haven't been in the swing of things for the last 2 years since bootcamp. Also, for whatever reason, they have entirely different promotion rates and will out rank active duty for some fucking reason with even less time in.

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>be me
>browsing forums
>come across this gem
I thought of you all /meg/

>>65092097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpQveRzD3sQ

>>65091647
Does your jarhead reserve friend chain-eat crayons? (important question)

>>65084321
Personally, no, but it is a fairly common occurrence. E7-> E4-6 is more common.

>>65091583
>If you bitch out of a pretest you wouldn’t last
I know I will fail so what is the point in coming? Just so I can get screamed at?

My cousin is in the navy. I'm not going to enlist but can I get a 3% VA loan with navy federal CU since he's family?

>>65093346
Fucking call nfcu you spastic

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>>65091082
Update:
Recruiter homie sent me an asspain of a series of forms (basically the SF-86 in all but name) to fill out.
Pic related is one of the questions. I ASSUME the military can see my VA records, right? I have some VA disability conditions going on, nothing that I think is particularly disqualifying, but I think two of them will require waivers. And, again, I don't see how the military could possibly NOT find my VA records, but it would be nice to accidentally select No here and avoid needing more waivers.

>>65093342
You arent going to get screamed at by your recruiter. Atleast they shouldnt. They arent drill sergeants.
You need to go because you need to push yourself. You might fail but you will never know how hard you failed if you dont go.
If you really cared about your fitness you would go. This is conditioning for the real thing. If you dont go now, regardless of pass or fail, you will fail in basic.
If I still didnt convince you, unenlist yourself pussy or gtfoh robert whichever person I'm truly replying to.

Is it worth joining the military if you are over thirty?
I consider enlisting (not US), but heard the culture clash with way younger recruits is heavy.

>>65095017
Two more weeks, right?

>>65094984
Nah you’ll have to bunk and live with 18 year old zoomers for years and get paid less than a janitor

>>65094984
Probably boils down to these aspects
>Job prospects
If you dont have an amazing job right now or big opportunity on the horizon you cant go wrong.
>job experience
If you have been out of your preferred career field for several years then you can use the military to get back on track.
>pay
If you are willing to take a pay cut for other benefits it can work for you.
>>65095458
He said not US. Are you against the idea of joining a military entirely?

>>65095473
>He said not US.
Doesn’t matter, it’s the same meta everywhere.
>Are you against the idea of joining a military entirely?
No, joining the military as a pilot is probably the best job / career path possible here on Earth.
If you’re age 18-23 and want a bit of fun for a few years, it is also viable to just do combat roles for a while.
But past that everything else is just a waste of time.

>>65087561
ETN1 Shitass here. This meal isn't the travesty it's made out to be. Many meals while underway end up like this as, believe it or not, it is hard to get fresh food in a fucking war zone. That particular dish is gyro meat. The fundamental truth of Navy food is that the quality is HIGHLY dependent on who you are, both in rank and in reputation. E7+ eat SIGNIFICANTLY better, especially CPO-MCPO. Officers have a better dining experience in the ward room, but their food isn't as good as the CPO mess. CPOs are the ones who assign where the CS's go, and believe it or not, but CSCS or CSCM wants him and his friends to eat well. Steak and Lobster are common when bad news is coming. The other half of it is who do (you) know in the galley? Many rates (not nukes lmao get fucked) have to do temp duties for their first few months on the ship. Some become mall cops, some work for MWR (GREAT deal), and some 'crank' in the galley (washing dishes, throwing away trash, whatever). These people make friends with the cooks, and subsequently frequently get greater portions and/or "off menu" meals. On my last deployment, it was common to see some E3 fuckhead with chicken quesadillas and french fries while the ship was on chicken and rice rations.

The Navy is all one big hood and it's really about where you and your grandma are from.

>>65095549
>not nukes
Who the fuck would want to be friends with a nuke?

>>65095558
Typically SDAP and a job application

>>65095558
Not deodorant

>>65095536
>it's the same meta everywhere
Retard and non-serve confirmed. Incoming melty.

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>>65094677
Update:
Recruiter homie called me and told me he was wrong, I do have to go to MEPS again.
>mfw
He says the medical process should still be a streamlined IRR/prior service thing, not the whole full-civilian to active duty process, which is great, that's the important thing. But MEPS, man... there are few places I've been to that have had such an overwhelming aura of no fun allowed. Well maybe it's different as prior service, idk.

>>65062364
what up g, I was wondering if you'd post in this thread. Just noticed you already did almost two weeks ago and I somehow missed it lol.
I believe I'm in a pretty niche situation here, not sure if you're here to take on questions in uncharted territory or just the generic ones. But adding on to my reply chain, a VA condition I'm worried about is:
>"shortness of breath/wheezing"
A few months before separating, my supervisor told me it's not normal to keep coughing hours after running. I asked medical about it, they did an FEV(?) test, and I scored just barely above what they would consider asthmatic, but low enough that they were concerned. They prescribed me inhalers (which helped greatly) and scheduled a more comprehensive asthma/lung/pulmonary/whatever test, which never ended up happening because I separated first. I saw the VA for it and they also prescribed me inhalers but never did a full asthma test or whatever. So I have been prescribed asthma inhalers (I haven't refilled the prescription in like a year and a half though), but never actually got diagnosed with asthma. I'll be honest, I'm not fat, but I am very lazy with cardio. But it seems I also have something physically wrong with me?

As for Adderall, I was prescribed that long before joining, did not inform MEPS about it, did my four years without taking it, and then hopped back on it shortly after separating.

So yeah, what do you think about my reenlistment (into the Air Force Reserve) chances and timeline?

>>65095574
lmao

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i've been thinking about joining the navy as a an argentinian with a green card, mostly because i have hand tattoos.
my dream would be to become a registered dietitian be able to buy my own house and go back to my country with a house of my own, either invest into real state in this country or do the full 20, good retirement and live as a king till the day i die (4k USD per month in argentina you're basically god)

>>65096820
What rate are you looking at? have you taken the ASVAB?

>>65096880
i haven't taken the ASVAB yet, i would like to do a 3 months practice tests practice, i was also interested in doing something LS related. i worked as a diesel mechanic before and i hated it so i'm looking for either a health care job related or something to do with pay stubs/administrative clerk etc.

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Good morning gooners. Helped me out around 2019/2020 to join up. It does go fast

>>65097028
I wonder if they’ll still treat enlistees like guinea pigs though. My uncle was basically a test subject for the swine flue vaccine before it got released. Didn’t know until many years later

>>65097028
I don't think travel vaccines are ending any time soon because getting malaria or yellow fever still poses a serious health risk to the vast majority of soldiers.

>>65097028
>antivaxxers are now saying the yearly flu shot is going to kill off the world population
Its been 5 years since y'all said I would keel over from myocarditis, but I just broke a PR for my 5k last week. When am I supposed to die?

>>65096880
If you're looking to push paper and never see a hard days work in your life, maybe even never see water, LS/PS is a great choice, but I'd sooner recommend YN. LS get hella homie hookups as they're literally the ones who bring shit onto the ship, but there is a non-zero chance you do some menial manual labor. PS is just YN reskinned, except you essentially only do personnel based paperwork. YN is my reccomendation as it's the daddy of paper rates and can do an LS/PS job as the Navy needs, and you get to dip your toes in literally any department/division, whereas LS or PS are locked into either supply or personnel. My only caveat is that I current have a Good Deal™ as an E6 with <7 years TIS and I work with a LOT of LS/PS/YNs who are also E6's with >12 years TIS. The trade off is they have a much higher QOL. Half of them have never been on a shit, and the rest only did partial deployments (with an airwing). Choose your rate choose your fate.

All that said, if you were a mechanic, you WILL score well on the ASVAB for things like EN/GS/MM/HT, hell maybe even MMN if you can count to 10 without using your fingers. Understand this:

1. You don't have to sign a contract at MEPs, you can and should walk if you don't get what you want
2. You are choosing not only your day job, but your literal day to day life for 6-10 months at a clip. As a nuke, I did a 600-1600 work day with a revolving 5 hour watch every 15 hours. 4 trainings a week, a written exam every month, numerous briefs a day, blistering heat, oral boards, who gives a fuck. The trade off is me (and all my homies) made rank quickly and uncle sam has given me over $250K to do it as bonuses. Paper pushers do 12 on 12 off, non-rotating, in AC, using adobe pro and sending emails. They also pickup slowly. Everything is a trade off.

Like I said in my Nuke post in the sticky, I generally reccomend against studying for the ASVAB, but in your case, look up the line scores and get ASVAB for dummies.

>>65098311
meant to reply to
>>65096938

MyNavyHR has all the rating's required ASVAB line scores on their respective pages. For example, for YN, (pronounced yo-man), you need

MK + VE = 99 OR CS + MK + VE = 148

If you get study material, you can grind these sections and smoke them on the ASVAB.

https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Career-Management/Community-Management/Enlisted/Administration/YN/

You can also just go the recruiter and ask to take a practice one with no commitment. I enlisted out of NYC and vivdly remember some kids telling me it was their third attempt at the ASVAB as they had failed/not been offered the rate the wanted. Beyond the PROFOUND retardation it takes to fail, they had the right idea to not settle.

>wanted the military from an early age
>could have gone to west point because of family connections
>wanted to get in on my own merit
>go to Norwich instead
>get cold feet at the last minute (schiz'd out when I saw my rook year had 5 other guys with my exact, not common, name)
>end up smoking pot for years while getting a useless degree with a 2.0

Now 10 years on I am committing to an officer path. Only branch that will touch me (for OCS) is Army, but only natty guard and only 'traditional' OCS, which is fuckin one weekend a month, for 18 months. I think it is a relatively clear path (my runtime is abysmal). TIS wont start until I commission. The accelerated option in my state has 5 slots, and the care decides it in phase 0. So it's competitive.
My question is should I go reserves, go back to school for ROTC (either for another bachelors and a masters) and do SMP? TIS will start immediately, I can retool my career, and have enough savings to pay tuition for the most part. I am LCOL area so between SMP and drill pay I could make it work. I would need an age waiver for ROTC more than likely.

To anyone reading this at 16/17/18: if i did it over I would do reserves ASAP then rotc on scholarship and do SMP (in state if you can) and go active for a few years. Nat guard will want their investment back and will guard you jealously. Not sure about SMP for other branches, but do Navy or coast guard if your school has NROTC. They have the best real estate. AFROTC as a runner up. Army or Marines if you're really passionate/driven/retarded like me. Take all this with a grain of salt, I havent done it just research over the past year.

Life is going to fuck you no matter what, so take your advantages while you can. Also don't smoke or do drugs. Wait til you're on 100% disability at 38

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To all the 16/17/18 year olds:
Life isn't the one fucking you 99% of the time. It's likely yourself, and as long as you see the ways you're fucking yourself over and fix it, you'll be fine.
Dummie-kun here will be fine, too.
Who knows if military is the right path but good luck to those who choose it.

>>65098371
>if i did it over I would do reserves ASAP then rotc on scholarship
Really jealous (in a good way) of you kids that took advantage of the option to do this. Some of us just got kicked out of the house at 18 and had to go active or tough it out.

>>65086476
>>65086500
>>65094845
Update: I took it today and as expected I failed it completely then the recruiters gave a cheesy speech to everyone about how showing up is already winning. Looks like they didn't even care if anyone passed or failed.

i've felt my depression redevelop on a slow burn since i was fired by the corpo i worked at back in summer 2025 (right after my birthday) and i was already considering actually joining somewhere after i had previously killed those thoughts again in 2021.
now i'm unironically thinking i could be a delta operator or a SEAL
https://x.com/litteralyme0/status/2041301426186371185

>>65095650
Sounds like possible exercise induced asthma. There are many ways to quantify the disease burden and discover just how much of an impact it is, I would go to your doctor and get this worked up. Unfortunately, according to DODI 6130.03 vol 1, section 6.10, any history of reactive airway disease and any history of inhaled steroid/beta agonist is dq. Depends on if you meet diagnostic criteria after all.


The Adderall is another story. Depends on why it was prescribed, if you're still using it etc. If you havent needed it in a year or so I think you're golden iirc, just need a doctor to say "Yeah he hasn't needed it, hasn't used it, and has been asymptomatic."


Might need a waiver for the RAD thing tho >.>

>>65099232
Because he's right, showing up mattered the most. Good job, you still tried and you'll get better on every subsequent attempt

whats the closest thing to joining the military without actually joining the military
as in a thing i can sign up for as an adult with no training or experience or qualifications that'll just pick me up and let me learn a field and provide housing and let me work and get my life off the ground.
I'm 30, don't do drugs or alcohol, no mental illness. I just want to start my life and can't get off the ground at all

>>65100077
Move to a first world white country where the state gives you free housing and education like Denmark, Norway etc.

>>65100077
>hey I know I just walked into a pizza store but can you guys tell me where I can go to get a nice, piping hot circular meal that could feed a family, is covered in cheese and toppings, is offered at a reasonable price, can be made to order in 10 minutes and transported in a greasy cardboard box, and is made with bread and tomato sauce BUT NOT PIZZA?

>>65100077
Deloitte has some coding jobs all expenses paid for you.
Good luck though, the competition is fierce you will compete with h1B visa immigrants for more or less the same pay as a private in the military and you will 100% hate it.
Its also nothing like the fucking military because no job can really put you through what the military does.

>>65100097
Does Canada do this
>>65100152
Yeah.

>>65100242
What is your nationality?

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>>65098325
>>65096820
update i did a practice test after talking with my recruiter and got a 43, which suprisingly i did really well on word knowledge / paragraph comprehension and terrible on math/arithmetic
he told me to take the test again in 2 weeks, i also told him that i've been smoking weed so get off that shit too.
i've been considering the yeoman mainly because i worked as diesel mechanic before and i HATED it, i rather do paperwork
plus maybe once i'm a citizen i could get a job in the US embassy in argentina if i wanna move back idk. i told him about LS too but there's no signing bonus for that and there's a 50k one for YN

>>65100787
>$50k to route paperwork
The Navy must be hurting for recruits jesus. The choice is obvious, they're essentially the same job, just one comes with $50k. Put the jazz cabbage behind you, don't fuck with it until you're out, follow the rules, stay in school, eat your vegetables and you'll be ok.

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>>65100814
yup honestly the only thing that concerns me is that if i will have time to do some type of college while working 10/12 hours a day. i'll do my best to my make my dreams come true

>>65100814
You'd think the rate would be doing well given it's meme acronym, but that 50k will help these YNs get a whip, some grills, and bling

>>65101089
>50k will help these YNs get a whip, some grills, and bling
Shieeeet mane das wassup

>>65099645
hmm, sounds like there's a good chance I'm screwed. Well I'll hold out hope, and if I do end up disqualified from reenlistment at least I can laugh about getting 30% disability for something that should have disqualified me from my initial enlistment lol. And also I won't have to go back to Keesler.
Thanks dawg.

Just got back from MEPs. AMA

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>can't bet on your own ops
Gaaay

>>65102205
Did you get a finger?

>>65102584
Real question is: did you?

>>65102610
Wasn't lucky. Might get another chance in reception week

>>65102205
do they test for ketamine?

>>65103094
Duh

I'm kinda in the same boat as this guy >>65100077 but i'm actually starting to consider military now. Considering chairforce honestly. Got a few questions about things
- How long is boot camp and what does it entail exactly?
- Upon finishing bootcamp, am I deployed immediately?
- I have no real skills or experience, what sort of jobs in the airforce should I consider? Personally like the idea of OT or maintenence stuff.
- stupid thing, but do you ACTUALLY shower with other guys? I've seen the whole "youll' get used to it" saying but damn.

>>65104104
>OT
IT*

>>65104104
>- How long is boot camp and what does it entail exactly?
7.5 weeks. idk about air force specifically but all boot camps are basically designed to stress you through physical exercise and time standards and light yelling so that you have a military bearing at the end of it. not very hard and kinda fun depending on your personality. you'll shoot a rifle and stuff too.
>- Upon finishing bootcamp, am I deployed immediately?
lolno, you go to a unit and then you deploy only if your unit is deploying.
>- I have no real skills or experience, what sort of jobs in the airforce should I consider? Personally like the idea of OT or maintenence stuff.
maintenance, by all accounts, is full of long hours and suffering in the air force. please, please consider something better, like intelligence, cyber, linguist, or even just supply instead of this unless you really fucking love 12 hour shifts turning wrenches.
>- stupid thing, but do you ACTUALLY shower with other guys? I've seen the whole "youll' get used to it" saying but damn.
yes, you unironically stop caring after the first time. air force boot camp probably has shower stalls anyway but if you deploy you might shower in an open shower area with other dudes. it's only weird if you make it weird.

>>65104104
Air Force makes you list 10 jobs and depending on the recruiter they'll pick one for you from the list, some will let you wait but it's rarer now. Sometimes they'll give you a job not on your list and say take it or get lost. Pretty much the worst branch for actually deciding what YOU will do, and it's designed that way to get as many people in security forces and maintenance as possible by attracting them with the possibility of doing something fun or easy. Still not a bad gamble
Navy and Army you get to pick the exact job if it's available. Marines you choose a job type. Coast Guard you can choose to apprentice (undesignated) to get in quick or waitlist for a job.
This changes Officer side where the Army gives jobs based on performance (West Point, ROTC or OCS top performers pick first, lower performers pick last, you sign to be an Officer not a job), Navy will let you apply to multiple jobs but unless you are a superstar with a stellar GPA you're getting SWO, then your sub-type of SWO is determined by performance, you can get pilot if you're healthy enough too but the sub-type is also based on if you're a superstar or not. Marines do the same thing as the Army afaik (may be wrong), Air Force lets Officers pick their job (pro-tip, you're not going to get Pilot unless you went academy or were a superstar in ROTC, OTS is a no-go)

>>65102205
what movie were they playing on repeat? for me, it was inside man starring denzel washington and clive owen

>>65059428
What do you guys honestly think of civilians? Do you hate/resent them?

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>>65104178
We dont think about you at all.

>>65104148
NTA but when I went in 2024 they put on CW channel which was doing a full Harry Potter marathon, the zoomers kept telling the personnel to "turn off this millennial slop" but I'm a millennial so it was decent background noise for me

>>65104116
Good to know. I guess tech jobs sound cool, better than being a grease monkey i suppose. And yeah fair point, I guess I am just a little self conscious about my body. Trying to get fit though.
>>65104143
desu if someone picked for me, I think it'd be better. I'm 25 now and still have no fucning clue what I wanna do with myself. Which is why i'm seriously considering a military career. And there's no way I'll be a pilot with my fucked eyes lmao.

I have a PhD in chemistry, what role might I fit in the military? Or should I just work at a military research lab as a civilian?

>>65104246
Definitely the latter

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>>65100848
i've been also thinking about this while staying home and going to college

>>65104193
Do you have any medical problems, criminal history, massive debt, or drug use? What are your fitness stats (height/weight/last mile run/big 3 lifts)?
If you are eligible for a TS clearance you should look at intel or cyber.

>>65098311
Something to be careful about nuke is that they will yank that shit away from you if you hit the age requirement and the officer doesn't feel like doing a waiver. The test is easy as shit, but I can't go over what's on it from non disclosure agreements I imagine.

A good engineering rating is Machinist Mate auxiliary for submarines, you are essentially all naval engineering rates outside of nuclear. They have a weapons version of it too, but that's just a sub GM

Avoid SECF, the promotion rates are awful, literally stuck at e5 for 20 years at a time.

>>65104246
You are way overqualified, could be a route for a medical license if that is too competitive due to limits, but every military doctor I have met hates their life and I don't recommend it.

So realistically what does space force do? Are they more specialized and require previous experience and qualifications? All I can think of is potentially work with satellites.

>>65104826
satellites, monitoring launches, monitoring whatever the fuck the sun is up to and make sure it's not going to fuck up sensitive equipment, setting up and maintaining monitoring equipment, various extremely classified things.
They exist for the same reason the Air Force does. The Army couldn't be trusted to train people to the standards to keep planes running, and everyone else couldn't be trusted to prioritize giving a shit about space when they want other, lower minded things short term. It's been recommended for decades before it manifested, and is needed, but it's still a baby branch.
I doubt they'll ever be cool enough to use naval ranks like they should, but once they start sending dudes to actually do things in space they're going to need the Navy to train them on how to run watch since nobody else has experience with the concept a vessel needs someone making sure it doesn't shit out on you at a random time

>>65104342
No to those first 4. Going to be honest, I am a dwarf of a man. 5'1ish and 120 last I checked. No idea on fitness stats. For the top secret clearance, I saw that having dual citizenship can be a factor that may disqualify you. I've got Japanese citizenship, but born/raised in the states and can't even speak Japanese. I am interested in cyber stuff now though

I got sent home from Army Basic training because of ADHD. Would it even be realistic to re-enlist into a different branch such as the Space Force? Or am i basically out of luck to reenlist?

>>65105528
Can you take a picture of the section of your DD-214 at the bottom that characterizes your discharge so we can better assess?

>>65105625
It says re-3, uncharacterized

>>65104986
Your size is fine. You're right that dual citizenship is a problem and you will probably need to surrender your Japanese citizenship if you want a TS (though I am not an expert on this or a clearance adjudicator and you should do some of your own research).
Over the next week or so, try to gather some basic fitness data about yourself. Get a stopwatch and time yourself doing as many pushups as you can in 2 minutes, then the same for situps or crunches. Go out and run 1 or 2 miles as quickly as you can and time it. If you have been lifting already, test your 3-rep max for the basic barbell lifts, and if you haven't, go read the sticky on /fit/.

Im going to RTT bros

I cant wait months and months for a reclass since i cant do my signed job

The lack of freedom and total oppression is killing my soul
DS said im unpromoteable due to re-4 hes marking me with and bad councelings ruining my record so i will be stuck E1 forever

If i cant do my signed job why am i going go spend 6 years doing some random bs job i dont care about and wasnt drawn to while making like not even 12k a year
Just to get a home loan that i cant even fully utilize towards a investment property since i wont have income to back it up?

This has gone from a dream to a nightmare so fucking fast

>Am i making a huge mistake?
My heart wants to stop running away from difficult things and fulfill my commitments i have made and be a soldier and carry that with me for the rest of my life
But the rest of me wants to walk away while i still can and get a normal job and live a normal life

If i stick it out i will be almost 30 when my contract is over with barely 70k-ish to show for it

I could make 70k 80k even a year in the civilian world

I wanted to do cool high speed shit
I wanted to be a door kicker
I wanted to be awesome and turn my life around 180 360

Its just all blowing up in my face

>>65106840
>DS said im unpromoteable due to re-4 hes marking me with and bad councelings ruining my record so i will be stuck E1 forever
Your DS is a bullshitter. Your unit will not give a fuck about what you did in basic training.
Why do you thin you can't do your signed job?

>>65106861
>>65106861
>Your unit will not give a fuck about what you did in basic training.
I was counceled for dereliction of duty because FG just went to bed and didnt wake me or my battle up for next shift and DS came in
I was told thats a career killer
I also failed combat standards and was told im being reclassed and the trainee news network told me that will be a minimum 3 weeks to maximum 4 or more months long process
DS said the reclass will come with a re-4 ineligible for reinlistment mark on my record that will nuke my chances for schools promotions etc

>>65106881
>I was counceled for dereliction of duty because FG just went to bed and didnt wake me or my battle up for next shift and DS came in
>I was told thats a career killer
Lmao. No one will care once you graduate.
>I also failed combat standards and was told im being reclassed and the trainee news network told me that will be a minimum 3 weeks to maximum 4 or more months long process
You failed the combat standard on the AFT, you mean? Was it your first failure or is this a pattern?
Ignore the TNN, they don't know shit. Also ignore how long it may or may not take. Even if it does take 4 months, so what? You'll hang out and draw pay that whole time and a year from now you'll barely remember it.
>DS said the reclass will come with a re-4 ineligible for reinlistment mark on my record that will nuke my chances for schools promotions etc
RE-4 is a reentry code if you get chaptered out of the Army, not something that goes on your record if you get reclassed. Also, if you do get reclassed and graduate, again, your first unit will not give a flying fuck about whatever happened in basic training or AIT unless it involved an actual crime (and not some stupid shit about fireguard, lol).

What specific events did you fail to reach the combat standard on? What is your MOS? The best move for you is to just lock the fuck in and crush your next AFT rather than going to pieces over what might or might not happen or some dumb shit random privates told you or the smoke your DS is blowing up your ass.

Oh the consequences of dumbass recruits having their phone in basic.
JFC

>>65105819
That doesn't tell the full story

My last day in the barracks I threw a watch with a fresh battery with an alarm clock set to repeat every day at 3am into the vent where its impossible to get out without cutting it open.

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well, well, well /meg/. Just looky what we have here

>>65108326
Its my time to shine

>>65102584
Hey it’s OP
No. You just bend over and spread your cheeks. That’s it. The doctor does grab your balls and makes you turn your head and cough.
>>65103094
Everything. That’s the point of the one vial blood drawl.
>>65104148
Thor. The second one actually

PASGT + SWDG is so kino

>>65108326
>April 30th, 2025
>2025
Really backlogged on your mil news, eh Robert?

Is there anywhere that has some sample ASVAB questions so I know what to expect?

>>65108814
ASVAB for Dummies gives you literally everything on the test

>>65109009

>military doctors
I meant doctrines, you autistic low iq fgts. But yeah, they're the things that say that you shouldn't be a hypocrite, or your men will demoralize

>>65109009
>>65109018
Reminder that the individual behind this post was kicked out of Army BCT back in 2015 for openly bragging that he would violate the DoD Law of War pertaining to violence towards innocent women and children. He has been seething for 11 years that he wasn't permitted to engage in unprovoked attacks on women and children using US Army equipment while wearing ARPAT. He now weighs too much to even fit in any uniform, and spends his time ranting about how it's the Army that was wrong, not him.

>>65108542
He quite literally copy+pasted his post from /pol/ today.
He's so fucking lazy. He has not a single original thought in his brain.

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>>65108326
i thought "that's not even old" and then realized that it is not yet april 30 and also it's no longer 2025

where does the time go homies

>>65109221
The time is going to raising your sons and running your business. Surely that is going well?

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>>65109226
i'm a big fat homo playing hooky from the military to work at a defence contractor and yet still have a drinking problem becaues I am only happy in a well-stocked workshop full of tools and devices I can only attempt to fix but have the freedome to probably fuck up worse because they are MY devices and i love them as much as i beat them savagely

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I'm up for a performance review and have not been to the unit this year more than like twice. I've been not going since I got a real job at a defence contractor, so I'm working on an air base but the hours conflict with "parade" hours.

How should I navigate my performance review without snapping and going "us reservists are effectively mercenaries; if you want a navy, pay for a navy"

>>65109330
11 years, Robert. That's a long time to be this upset, especially when you could have lost weight and gone over to Ukraine instead

>>65097444
even before coof when i deployed i had to get a ton of shots every time because it turns out (((THEY))) dont want the force all sick from getting sneezed on by a crow once

>>65109440
Why would an absolute stranger even know who I am talking about? You are reacting with an acknowledgement of context, which a stranger (who you want to be perceived as) would simply not have. You are THAT bad at maintaining anonymity on this website. Embarrassing!

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>>65109481

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Children PLEASE

We're in a force together, none of your beef matters! You're getting paid to be here, all I expect of you is to be able to follow some basic orders to push buttons! Not even pull a trigger, that can wait for a real firefight. Nothing bad is happening right now, so let's all be a nice barely happy dysfunctional family, okay? I need you to sit on the radio, you there to write down what's being said, you two can be runners, and you over there, I've gotta do some stuff in the server room, so can you reset all these assholes' passwords while I do that? Okay? I brought my own radio from home so I can hear what's going on if you miss it, and all the IT stuff is long term stuff. Let's calm down, and just make sure the operation can continue.

>>65109478
>>65109481
>>65109486
I can't believe you really thought you could wait a few days and expect to come back here and pretend the last 6 years of trolling never happened. You have a reputation and that doesn't go away so easily. The internet is forever, just like your burning hatred for General Milley.

>>65109490
Someone kill this nigger with an anti-tank mine drone please.

>>65109542
One truly has to wonder why pissbuttfag never seems to get it wrong, and why poopdickschizo never seems to stop feeding the troll.

I dont come here often, can I get a tldr on this Robert
Also do they really gotta grab my balls? Suppose its nothing weird but I havent had a physical since I was like 16 or something.

>>65109549
Balls are not grabbed and anyone saying otherwise is fantasizing. Hell, I wasn't even forced to show my balls, the doc just asked if I'm missing anything down there.

>>65109549
>Also do they really gotta grab my balls?

https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/docs/Men_Overcoming_MST.pdf

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/one-percent-male-military-sexual-assault-victims-speak
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/10/us/men-military-sexual-assault.html

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>>65109549
>I dont come here often

>>65109549
At MEPS they did indeed grab my balls. It's to check for testicular cancer or something.

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>>65109520
Do you think /meg/ is off-topic? The mods sure don't.

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>>65109571
>>65109565 literally proved me right within 60 seconds. They do not touch your genitals, there is a morning seminar that makes it explicitly clear to report a doctor that touches you as no physical contact is required or to be requested. Non-serves only know what they saw in Hollywood movies and corners of the internet that are brimming with intent to dissuade via disinformation.

If you are correct (and you aren't), then that means Robert had his balls cupped by another man, which would make him as gay as the rest of us.

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>>65109578
So you agree /meg/ is on-topic and has a place on /k/?

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>>65109620
Does the US military use weapons? Who uses the weapons?

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>>65109580
So you didn't!
Great.
Not my experience.
>This was last year.
I got my testicles SWIFTLY gripped on the varicocele for some reason and yes, it was shocking. It didn't hurt right away but later I was feeling uncomfortable because I was gripped rather harshly.

I looked it up, doctors are allowed to do this at MEPS.
My doctor was a female, though I would have not really cared either way. I was also watched by a male MSG as per their policy.

I think you believe that your old timer boomer experiences are the DEFINITIVE military experience and NOTHING will ever change policy wise, which is just wrong.
Things change all the time. I mean, just in this thread I stated that phones werent allowed in my MEPS and you implied that I was lying.

>pic just in case you accuse me of being robert for no reason, probably still going to be called robert or a (kek) "never served"

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>>65109623
How does a picture of your hand prove you aren't Robert? Robert is a white male.

Anyways, if you are not lying, then you have every right to report this incident. You "looked this up" and yet I can tell you with certainty they are not authorized to do this, doubly so given that a female was involved.

You can either choose to be a bitch that wants to shiver in fear at remembering his balls getting (wo)manhandled or stand up for yourself because the incident you are describing is NOT acceptable or permissible. I know you won't report it because you are a liar, but I am making it clear that you are not going to just "prove me wrong" with a bullshit story and I am not going to change my tune. I am dead certain about what I have stated.

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>>65109620
I think the C7A2 is a beautiful weapon but I have never been handed one that has the sights properly aligned at all, and once got one that was literally missing its rear sight entirely. This was in a maritime environment where the average shot is made over a literal mile. Very annoying. I was never expected to hit anything and be tallied for score, but still. How can you expect me to work properly with such paltry gear?

I prefer the original C7, which was basically an M16A2 with the nice hard fixed stock and carry handle integrated into the top of the receiver, but that's a little oldschool and no longer suitable because aftermarket sights exist and even CoDguy shit aside, Canada now issues ELCANs as standard which fit onto a picatinny rail.

We also got new pistols recently, but I've heard it's become a bit of a kerfuffle. I actually really liked the new P320s since they actually feel way more safe -- the old P226's are all clapped out and the few things keeping you safe don't work anymore due to wear and tear. I actually felt really unsafe on range days, because the guns are so worn down that the slide locks are smoothed over and don't work and the magazines are so clapped out they barely fit rounds anymore. But apparently a few pigs shot themselves in the leg by putting their booger hook in the wrong spot, so now we can't have new pistols.

Now, if it were up to me, in the marine evironment (as in being on boats doing "force protection" on a ship that has fitted M2s) the standard rifle would be a proper full length rifle, and you would only issue that instead of marksmen rifles because of training requirements. Maybe just have FN Minimis with 4x scopes and STANAG mags instead of belts as standard.

>ohh anon but they feed so badly from mags, so unreliable!!!
Here's a can of Ballistol and four dues with guns that might work if yours stops. If you have a complaint, the CWIS can be manually aimed, and the 57mm and bow down low enough that we're more prepared for a firefight than the average tank. We're on a fucking ship expected to throw down with other ships. A guy with a gun isn't even a threat, even an anti-tank launcher at worst will take out a coffee machine. Why are we relying on carbines?

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>>65109639
Genuinely what the fuck are you on about?
Google. You need to use it.

I want you to find the exact place where it says they can't do what I described.

And further more, for every single time you reply to me and can't fabricate this information, I'm adding a reply to the original question stating that, yes, the doctors do in fact touch your testicles and you should expect such.
>>65109549

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arm force protection with rocket launchers and sniper rifles, and have the more specialized team on standby with a mortar

it's a ship, not an infantry section

>Oh no! Gangsters are here next to our ship that docked in the industrial area!
I bet my P226 with eight rounds and having one(1) extra mag in a janky pocket will surely let me win a firefight with twelve niggers operating Tec-9s with the drum mags becuase they are trapped in a time loop from Nineteen Ninety Never and haven't graduated to Dracos and PS90s

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"Surely, this cover will protect me.", I say to no one in particular as I crouch behind an open railing as my pistol fails to feed. I cut the sling of my rifle and dump my pockets of every magazine to shed extra weight, knowing that I have been issued blanks. "Sights are an insult to the operator," I remind myself, before fumbling my keys because the airsoft-grade red-dot sight I brought from home is still in my pocket, creating clutter. I duck inside to unlock the "magazine" and draw a rifle. No ammo. That's stored more deeply inside the ship. I affix a bayonet I bought off of Amazon. It snaps off its mount under its own weight. "A toy for pompous generals..." I think to myself. The firefight has ended. The niggers have left, bored. In frustration, I hit the main gun with a closed fist. Nothing happens. It was made by the lowest bidder. The main housing crumples before me. It is but a tent for the millions of dollars of RADAR and LIDAR equipment inside, constantly ready to acquire a target the size and signature of a firefly but unable to destroy it, as no ammo has been loaded since the gun was installed.

Anyway, the C7 rules, and the P226 is okay but every surviving example is clapped out. The P320 did nothing wrong.

>>65109677
>google AI
Tripling down on your retardation is a failing strategy. Now please, report this fictional incident instead of whining on 4chan and trying to "win" an argument on /meg/... you know, like Robert has been trying to do for 6 years.

>>65109542
Buck BROKEN

>>65109728
Yep, we've all read the replies to Robert reminding him that he has been so thoroughly buckbroken that he can't stop coming here to get bullied and abused by strangers on the internet. Poor guy couldn't even go a week before his mental bussy demanded a good mindfucking.

I'm the best IT monkey! I'm the best shot! Give me a toughpad and a C7 and a good radio and let me bring my toolbags and other shit from home and I am the best in a boat! I weigh 200kg after tools and I am the best!!!

>>65109620
This guy sure has been silent. I wonder where he went after people started talking about weapons.

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>>65109744
if i had a rocket launcher i'd make somebody pay

>>65109767
Well then I'm certainly glad you don't

Anyways, NEW THREAD

>>65109556

>>65109556

>>65109556

>>65109744
>the only guy discussing weapons is a deranged furfag

>>65109773
Never served, huh? They are a dime a dozen in the military. At least this guy isn't showing me pictures of anthropomorphic bird cocks (which I have seen, against my will, more times than I care to admit).

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>>65109778
>anthropomorphic
rookie shit

>>65109727
There wasnt an argument.
There was what you were saying (total bullshit based on what the military was like 25 years ago)
And then there was what I was saying (anecdote with emperical evidence)

Since you aren't
>trying to prove your opinion with a source
>a MEPS worker
>a MEPS doctor
>or active service
Your answers to me are simply an opinion.

>Bonus trvthnuke:
Because you can't absorb new information, you are a fucking boomer.
>>65109549
You are, IN FACT going to have doctors test you for testicular cancer. If you go through MEPS, expect your testicles to be inspected BY HAND.

>>65109735
BVCK
B R O K E N

>>65109809
>that wasn't an argument
Another classic Robert phrase when he gets very upset at being called a liar.

>>65109873
Maybe because everyone you talk to that doesnt have a 1:1 experience with yours isnt fucking robert, boomer moron.
>>65109549
Its a 100% possibility you will get your testicles examined at MEPS for testicular cancer.

Yes they grab your balls, no I'm not robert

>>65109873
Take your meds you lunatic

>>65109897
>Yes they grab your balls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSN7OYJyug

>>65105819
RE-3 means you need a waiver for the air force. Not sure about the other branches. You might need a second one with the ADHD.
How old are you? If you are <25, I suggest exploring other career opportunities out there, especially ones that are more "friendly" to those with your condition. If you hate them, the military will still be around for you to try and join.

>>65109917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9ArM3-KJQ

>>65109926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U