>Finland signed a deal worth 940 billion won ($635 million) to purchase additional K9 self-propelled howitzers from Korea, placing a follow-up order after operating the system for several years.>The latest deal follows Finland’s initial introduction of the K9 in 2017, when it agreed to acquire 96 howitzers under a separate government-to-government contract. The system has since been deployed in active service, forming part of Finland’s artillery capabilities.>Officials said the new order reflects the Finnish military’s assessment following years of field use, making it a repeat purchase based on operational experience rather than a first-time acquisition.Spain and now Finland. K9 bros literally just can't stop winning
>accurate >good range>not American Based
>>65061825>Spain and now Finland.Estonia also adapted them
>>65061832seething brown turdie hands typed this
>>65061873>If you don't like to buy MIGI stuff right now you are brown!Holy cope
>>65061882MIGA* I mean ofcourse
>>65061882Ayatollah status?
>>65061889If you think we care about your failed Israeli war and dead sandpeople you are mistaken. It's just not our war and we won't die for Israel ever again. Sorry okay? kek
Yeah, he's mad.
>>65061825why do europoors buy hardware but not use it? russia is right there and it barely has an army atm
>>65061873>buy american stuff>americans elect a retarded senile manbaby pedo jewlover>he throws a pissfit that you're using the stuff you paid for to protect yourself against his favourite dictator and/or Israeli interests>cut off from spare parts and munitions>there is a chance of this occurring every four yearsyeah idk man
>>65061988Ironic considering that Drumpf wanted Europe to pull their own.
>>65061825It's not enough.Finland needs to replace what remains of its aged Soviet artillery.
>>65061825Knowing that Finns do amazing trick shots with these I fully understand why they want more.
The Finnish Khanate fears the Hwan Empire so much they are resorting to second hand fakes of Imperial weapons? The pyramid must have hit them harder than we thought.
>used goods>half a billielmao
>>65061966I wouldn't worry abou it.
>>65061995He actually thought Europe would buy American systems.
>>65062075>refuse to defend yourself because orange man said to
>>65062075Like M109's straight outta Summer of Love in 1967?
>>65061966why would euros dirty their hands when their golem ukraine can do the dirty work of dying to russian bullets for them?
>>65062173>refuse to defend yourselfthey aren't refusing to do so, just not necessarily buying from the US MIC
>>65062357if that were true, they would have had a lot more to show for the last ten years
western deindustrializingWorks up until a war happens...
>>65061825I'm also ordering one cause I don't like that town not so far from mine.
>>65061825>SpainWat
>>65061995Fundamentally, what the US would like is for Europe to function like Saudi Arabia - a buyer of arms, allied with Israel who's careful to make sure that its armed forces are incompetent.
>>65061825>People buy Chink military hardware to avoid buying from America>It proves to be useless>People buy Russian military hardware to avoid buying from America>It proves to be useless>People buy French military hardware to avoid buying from America>Still useless>People buy Swedish military hardware to avoid buying from America>Also useless>People buy Korean military hardware to avoid buying from America>Hasn't been properly tested in combat yetHow do you really think this is going to end? The only military on the planet is the American one. The rest of them were never even players.
>>65062432>People buy French military hardware to avoid buying from America>Still useless>People buy Swedish military hardware to avoid buying from America>Also useless>People buy Korean military hardware to avoid buying from America>Hasn't been properly tested in combat yet>and yet, all of the above is plenty capable of turning russians into fertilizer, as events from 2022-2026 have shown
>>65062442You're missing the underlying point that the entire purpose of buying Korean, Chinese, Russian, French or Swedish is to avoid buying from America. Ultimately, the only reason to not buy American is if you plan to face off against America or pursue your own interests over the interests of the collective West, which means if your platform is not capable of facing American hardware, it is useless, as the USAF or USN can just come around and pound your ass into dust.That's the fundamental issue with all of this, its not bought to fight the Russians, its bought to try and buck American imperial hegemony and its not up to the task. There's no situation where the Finns end up fighting Russia, Russia is about to die fighting Ukraine all by itself.
>>65062463? America does not have a modern SPG and has no extra production to sell to anyone anyways
>>65062432>>People buy Swedish military hardware to avoid buying from America>>Also uselessMk 110 57 mm cannon, AT-4, Excalibur guided 155 mm and ground launched SDB are swedish products. Of these, the AT-4 is the only one that isnt crap.
>>65062463>is to avoid buying from America.Normally, such military procurement contracts are financed by a gaggle of additional business exchanges, so buying American would deepen your economic entanglements with somebody who's not a reliable business partner for the the next decade or so.Never mind that they won't even deliver on time.
>>65062546>Do business with Not-America>100% of 0% effective platforms delivered>Rise in combat capacity 0%>Do business with America>25% of 100% effective platforms delivered>Rise in combat capacity 25%The math still works out in America's favor. A few burnished platforms that work are better than a million platforms that are just rolling or flying deathtraps. Every war in contemporary history has proven that over and over again.
>>65062567>100% of 0% effective platforms deliveredThey aren't ordering artillery shells from the Norks here.
>>65062652>The Norks>Conveniently forgets that French Rafales have been shot down in war against the Pakistanis lately, as well as Chinkoid AAA failing to work in Venezuela and IranAnon, the issue is all of Not-America being incompetent at war because all the relevant nations in Not-America have been either avoiding war like the plague for the last 80 years or actively suppressing any talent or wherewithal in their own nations because they might become a threat to the Supreme Leader.
The burgers are out coping in force today. Most of what they named is standard nato equpment based/caliber. US uses the same stuff... a good portion off it is that way because the burgers wanted it too.
The only murican weapon that they sell abroad and that doesnt have an alternative available that I can think of is the F-35. And even it is an international project.
lot of OBSESSED in this thread, obviously money is tight in europe and they're jealous that our oldest weapons basically make their newest ones look like a 15th century trebuchet
>>65062517AT-4 and the Carl Gustaf 8.4 cm recoilless rifle
>>65062463>There's no situation where the Finns end up fighting Russia, Russia is about to die fighting Ukraine all by itself.That's naive, nobody knows how much worse the world has become in 5 years from now on
>>65061988>Complains about something that has not happened ?
>>65062723>>65062760You see these bots randomly bumping the thread. Seen more and more posts like this (not directed at anyone, random inflammatory statements) since the Ukraine war started.
>>65062671>>65062652>NorksIf they bought from the Norks they would already have their weapons and better stuff than their old cold war shit. >They aren't ordering artillery shellsThat is exactly what they are doing. Think about it: If you were in charge of Finland what sends a better message to Moscow; buying a few hundred K9s or the same number of Koksans at half the price and +50% the range?There would also be a major victory in terms of the 'WTF' factor of who Finland just bought weapons from and the political humilitation Russia would experiance when they realized they were so dependant on the DPRK that they couldn't do a damn thing about it.
Lay off the crack retardo. What new production weapon systems has NK delivered to anyone in triple digit numbers to anyone?
>>65063387artillery to Russiabesides,>triple digit numbersit doesn't matter if they deliver even just a dozen MANPADs, it's bad enough
>>65062671NTA, but jeets handling any weapon system is going to result in catastrophic failure. Look at their crash rates: it's not the weapons, it's the user in their case.
>>65061825What are the implications if Korea freezes parts/support for these weapons if the Finno-Korean Hyperwar kicks off again?
>>65063565Hasn't Australia weaseled their way into supply chain/manufacturing support? They did the same with the Boxer APC production for Germany.
>>65063387>What new production weapon systems has NK delivered to anyone in triple digit numbers to anyone?Koksans, KN-23s, half of Russia ballistic missiles, heavy MLRS, most of their ammo and the only troops that have that are worth anything. Also tactical guided missile systems like Bulsae which Russia has no equavalent of. The DPRK is doing the heavy lifting for Russia, Russia will collapse without the DPRK and both Kim and Putin know it.
>>65062463America is no longer a part of the collective west, it is its own thing now
You want to know how fucked Russia is? >A former super power of 145 milliom relys on a nation of 26 million for half it's ammo>The DPRK can make new tanks while Russia cannot>The DPRK can make new advanced naval vessels while Russia cannot>Russia's navy is disintigrating, the DPRK is building a Pacific Blue water fleetRussia is a fucking joke.
>>65063607I resent that implication, we haven't "weaseled" our way into anything
>>65063753why'd you even bother replying to a nigger who thinks domestic production is "weaselling", mate
>>65063747>>The DPRK can make new tanks while Russia cannotThere is *literally* no proof of this.
>>65063788Yesh they can, it is sort of a meme at this point.
>>6506378835 years and Russia could not make a new tank hull but she is.**Theoreticaly it is a T-62 variant which brings up even more questions about Russian incompetence
>>65062463>There's no situation where the Finns end up fighting Russiamotherfucker, unless ukraine wipes it completely of the map and annexes its cores, Muscovia entire history consists of constantly chimping out at everybody and everything surrounding them. Like a malicious cancer, or feral pack of niggers, trying to turn everything into the same shit as they are. Pic related is what it originally started out as even when they fail in ukraine they will try and attack the baltic states next as revenge chimp out. If they succeed they will be bombing poland and finland from the occupied lands next. The wars wills never stop as long as monke breaths and it completely depends who the next czar will be if there will even be a pause after that turd
>>65063826>>65063846I mean the part about russia can't make new tank. Its Kinda hard to believe. I mean how hard can it be to make new tank hull? Especially for a nation that is known for its land force.
>>65063747you know what else is fucked? (you) drinking piss and posting your fridge piss collection online
>>65063872>annexes its coresgo back, throwkoen1>>65063882depending how different you regard a Challenger 3 and Leopard 2A7 compared to the originals, nobody in the West has made a new tank in quite some timeand no,>how hard can it be to make new tank hull?they do, they have a T-90 factory but new production is reportedly quite small, supposedly about 1 a month pre-warit's also thought that they might have the ability to make T-80 hulls, but it's hard to assess because they talk a lot of shit and then go do something else. in this case, the T-80 chassis makes up a lot of their artillery and support vehicles so it actually has a wider user base (so to speak) than the pre-war* T-80 tank numbers suggest but all we've seen so far is refurbs*four years on, T-80s are just about extinct now
>>65063887Sorry that whatever buthurt shill collective you work for didn't inform you but my only loves are Trump, the USA, the DPRK and Juche. Anything that does not advance a US/DPRK alliance i just ignore. I am invincible and i am always right in some weird way. Fuck off.
>>65063906You idiots don't even see what is happening. Two dead Iraninan leaders and no KNCA announcment? No official statment from the DPRK? Not even a flower basket? Trump praises Kim for his restraint and mentions that he is a friend?It has already happened, the USA and DPRK are de facto allies. All that is left is we pay him more than Putin.
>>65061901>dead sandpeople>we won't dieUh... Your people are dying right now, towelhead.
>>65063906>>65063923Calm down man, I know you're pretending to be retarded here but you NEVER go full retard.
>>65063152Im the other one. Just dont want to give (you)s to spammers. And theres nothing imflammatory there. If you are an American and feel insulted perhaps you should take a look at the mirror. American MIC is losing its slice of the pie and customers because America and its products are trusted less now than 5 years ago.
>>65063446Pakis are the same jeets.
Btw, fuck you all, let's talk about that nice SPG. Tell me why it's better than Pzh2k or the newest m109. Or those Czech ones.
>>65064064sometimes it's just a matter of having manufacturing capacity while being Good Enough(tm) for most applications
>>65062008Fun-fact: "Moukari" translates as "sledgehammer", though the word "leka" is more commonly used. It's more often used to refer to the sports implement used in hammer throwing.
>>65064064It's not better, PzH2k has a better MRSI burst fire capability IIRC. But it's also more expensive.M109 is obsolete, really.The Zuzana is wheeled, so I guess it's not really the same type of vehicle.
>>65064047When it comes to the USA/DPRK alliance i'm full retard all of the time. I even have a few DPRK/USA friendship coat pins. I'm not LARPing, i honestly think it is the best long term alliance for world peace.
>>65062463>Ultimately, the only reason to not buy American is if you plan to face off against America or pursue your own interests over the interests of the collective West,No, it's to hedge supplier risk. Americans have demonstrated with this admin that you're completely capable of going full retard. Hedging away from USA reduces risk that 4 years later after the deal is done, some other narcissistic crackpot leading the USA decides that you know what, you won't have your howitzers because it hurts Russkie feefees and Putin's a good guy actually.
>>65064186Not /biz/ and not investment advice nor is it one of my portfolios but i suggest buying as much LAC and DNN as you can with every spare penny you have. This screen shot is not mine nor is it investmet advice.
>>65064186>hedge supplier risk>buys exclusively from Airbuslollmao
>>65064209LAC will become one of the biggest top 100 companies on earth mining lithium in about 18 months once the Thancker Pass mine gets working, GM and the US government are already invested. One of the things that are great about these companies is that they can's fail and i don't give a fuck bacause i don't pay taxes. DNN mines Uranium and Vandium btw, vandium is really important for /k/ related reasons..
>>65061825wondering how long it will take to refurbish all of them, because they are buying decomissioned ones and not ordering newly built ones. I guess delivery is super fast then, but they are also integrating their own command suite into them
>>65064064Depends on what you need and are willing to pay (directly and through logistics/support)
>>65064019>You are a towelhead if you dont like to die for jewish wars!Holy Goyim
And they are destroyed by one 200€ drone.. Meanwhile our elders stew in shitty diapers while Mahmud who was imported to take care of them drives around on a BMW.
>>65064064>Tell me why it's better than Pzh2kCheaper, more mobile and faster to pack up and fuck off from firing position after fire mission.>or the newest m109.Seriously?
>>65064566I am from belgium oblast and am very dimoralised, any day now we will be forced to measure the eggs and accept russian stewardship of the west
>>65061832>>650618731. US is an unreliable partner, you don't need to be a turdworlder to acknowledge that2. US fucked up all of its modern artillery plans since like the 90s, so it doesn't have modern arty at all.
>>65061889Got younger
>>65062173ironically how you have to get a picture of a mutt faggot and put a European flag on him, similar to how russians paint their own as ukrainian
>>65063151It has happened multiple times already, retard
>>65062432Don't know, seems to me ukies successfully use French, Swedish and even Soviet weapons with great results.
>>65064064>Tell me why it's better than Pzh2kGooks can actually deliver the stuff in this century>or the newest m109"the newest bullshit from the 60s"
>>65064987alright, fixed to suit your autism
>>65065038But the image is still false. It should be US trying to pull in Europe into the war for Israel.
>>65064566those elders spent their life voting for thatand clutch their money until their dying breath
>>65065051>t. Iranian bot
>>65065061You will deny reality, my brown friend?
>>65062546Good Lord that is the worst tie I have ever seen.I love it.
does the US make new m109's?
>>65065087define "new"
>>65061873Daily reminder that both israel and the us are brown, shit-skin majority countries.
>>65065067>>65065133ACKmad, stop embarassing yourself, you're losing your ugly rat face.
>>65064064best Howitzer in the world is RCH-155, only one in the world that can shoot while moving and only needs half the crew of K9, PzH2000 etc.
