Is it just me or does every civilian-legal PCC have a serious unresolved flaw? Either it OOB's on you when you don't whisper sweet nothings into its ear every morning or it hides an extra round under the bolt as a prank so you can ND it later, or there's only one mag allowed and it breaks all the time. And on top of that if you want one that actually cycles most of the time it's going to run you almost $2000 these days plus obscure estonian accessories to make it actually feed, despite guntubers claiming they're all like $800 because they're living in 2017. And any day now they're going to be declared NFA items and you'll have to make them useless or sell them at a steep loss.Why even bother if you can just get a 5.56mm AR pistol for cheaper and it actually works and you can turn it into a rifle legally if it turns out that fun is no longer allowed.Or even a cuck legal PS90 if you don't mind having something longer than a garand with the terminal effectiveness of a 10/22, if you're spending that kind of money.tldr PCC's suck in real life, prove me wrong
yeah
Wrong, stop buying garbage AR9s from bubba.
>>65061857Didn't know the scorpion, stribog, and kuna were all technically an "AR9 from bubba", TIL!
>>65061858I didnt know you could afford any of those you seem like a BCA guy, maybe PSA for Christmas.
>>65061864Imagine being a snob over a $2000 hand grenade
>>65061870Imagine being a fox calling the grapes out of his economic reach sour.
>>65061871Economically secure people don't e-peen over a shitty gun that explodes on you. Did you buy it on Klarna or did you just take out a payday loan for it?
Lol, Klarna boy is a Nissan driver too >>65061880
>>65061881Again here you are makong shit up on stuff you cant afford in order to self soothe.
Should have gotten the Henry.
>>65061892If you were really as rich as you're trying to convince us that you are, you'd be comfortable with the fact that sometimes people blow money on defective goods and you'd own up to your mistake. Instead you are coping and seething because buyer's remorse is a bitch when you couldn't really afford it to begin with but for Klarna
>>65061849I'm not reading that
>>65061905Youre malding out over all pccs and now are talking about B&Ts, are you such a coward that you made a separate thread instead of seething in the B&T thread? You also seem to be obsessed with buy now pay later, you arent beating the brokie allegations.
>>65061908>kunas are AR9s>scorpions are made by B&TI'm learning all kinds of new things today, cool!
>>65061910Good luck with your mental problems bud
>>65061849yeah, just buy an MP5. It's the one that actually works because it's the one designed for people who need it to work.
>no guns retard regurgitates nonsense for rage bait>prouth meth wongth!Naw, Id rather just point and laugh.
>>65061849>don't be OP>buy an MP5 clone>it just werks>move on with your life
her tattoos are tragic. absolutely ruined.
my stribog 45 is fine. A bit front heavy, wish it came in a 5" model. index finger mag release is a meme but you have superior paddle mag anyway so w/e. also wish there was a shorter mag available.
>>65061849> Either it OOB's on you when you don't whisper sweet nothings into its ear every morning or it hides an extra round under the bolt as a prank so you can ND it later, or there's only one mag allowed and it breaks all the time.never encountered these issues. Perhaps you need to strengthen your faith in the machine spirits.
>>65061849git gud
>>65061849Please just buy literally anything but an ar9 or scorpion. They suck.
This is a funny sentence:> Either it OOB's on you when you don't whisper sweet nothings into its ear every morning or it hides an extra round under the bolt as a prank so you can ND it later>>65062134There are girl coded and guy coded tattoos. I despise it when girls get sleeves or a random patchwork on their calf or something. But those chandelier/dreamcatcher things they get under their tits aren’t unsightly. I’d prefer the girls bare, but I’m pretty close to indifferent on female tattoos so long as they’re not the male coded and they don’t cover tits and ass.
>>65062177Dubs for the omnissiah
>>65062177Never heard of these issues on any mp5 clone or cx4 or even on henrys.
>>65061849she's cute, how do I get a gf like that?
>>65062580earn money and don't be a whiny bitch.that's literally all it takes.
My stribog went 850 rounds suppressed withoit cleaning before it started to do funny things with bullets. Taking the suppressor off removed all reliability issues from grime and I cleaned it at 1000 rounds.
>>65062583well shit, I'm out
>>65062597>850 rounds suppressed without cleaningshooting more muck than bullet at that point, i'd wager.
>>65062583sounds gay
>>65061849>16" PS90>longer than a M1 GarandInto the trash your opinion goes.
Seems like the verdict is just get an MP5 or a clone thereof even though the ergonomics are from the cold war. But wouldn't a clone be just as unreliable as one of these new eastern european reddit guns?
>>65062177>spends all that money on a copeP-5>Doesn't have money for handrails on the stairsPottery
>>65062711Turkshit mp5s are okay but Ive heard some people reporting sloppy stamping resulting in crooked guns
>>65062722>describing the money required to buy a copep5 as 'all that money'that's some deep, generational poverty you just described to me.
>>65062735Post your SP5 bro
>>65062735I don't know why you're trying to act all superior when you're running a holosun.
>>65062740>>65062745oh babey, two angry little (You)s from the poors, for the price of one!
>>65062177For real wtf is up with those death stairs?
>>65062755new construction, ain't had them installed when I took the pic.
>>65062545>codedSTFU, you stupid zoomer faggot.
>>65062960What fucking ever. What would you call it?
>>65062757Post proof there are handrails now.
Tbh though out of all the PCC out there the ar9 kits and psa akv have the worst records of bad quality control. Even the rugher pcc charger with all it's mag issues and ruger QC can have good ones out there.
>>65061849>have 2 pccs that I shoot>one is my home build garbage rod that is half AR9 and half AR15 that I use for testing attachments and made out whatever the cheapest things are that I can get my hands on>the other is my LelKek sub2000 gen 2 that I have owned since it was the newest thing on the market>neither have ever had a OoB or a FtE I think you have a personal problem OP
>>65061897Mine broke after 2000rnds. The action bars sheared off, but they sent me new bars for free though.
>>65061849I just think they're neat
>>65063132Noice
>>65063012This…
>>65061849>stribog with a factory mag instead of GP USA onesNGMI
>>65063085What’s that gif from?
>>65061897I need to do a Ratslayer only run in New Vegas now. Thanks.>>65062711>>65062733>>65062722Man, them is some digits. At this point the mp5 design is approaching 1911 status: there are so many people making them for so long that it's actually surprising when they fuck it up. Also, you can get a HK BRAND HK SP5 with a good suppressor, an HK BRAND HK SP5 collapsible stock, an SBR stamp, 6 HK BRAND HK SP5 mags, laser/rails/lights, and a good quality optic for about 7k total. It's more than I would put into a PCC, even for a home defense gun, but its not exactly the 'infinite dunk on poors' this one guy seems to think it is.>is it cheaper than a 10 year old Lexus?>probably not a bragging thing.
>>65063132As do I. OOB’s are practically a feature.
Let me guess, you need more?
>>65063574A pajeet film called RRR
>>65061849>oobonce every 3k rounds, not an issue>hides an extra round under the boltnon issue, the KP31's bolt is too fat>only one mag allowedGod's chosen suur-suomi drum magazines and coffins never falter>cycles for 2k1.5k into mine, no issues save for tne coffin mag I have to load to 48>estonian accessoriesReplaced the springs, cost me like 16 dollars>nfa items16 inch barrel and full wood stock.>sell at a steep lossSuomi prices on gunjoker continue to go upSuomi is the best PCC, a man's PCC. Be a man.
>>65064361My only issue with soumi and russian equivalent guns are just how overbuilt and rough they shoot. They are bricks.
>>65062757I admire your taste in flooring
>>65063972On the one hand, every board seems to think a product that costs more than my electric bill in July is an infinite dunk on poorsOn the other hand, $7k for one gun is getting into $1000 sneakers territory. I'm sure it's better than a scorpion but can it really be THAT much better?
>>65064537Scorpion is kinda bad, they are the only modern production PCC without a recoil mitigation system in place. You pay 900 dollars and up and get blown out by cx4, clone mp5s, kuna, pmx, and nearly every PCC in modern production. The CZ is has no recoil reduction in the evos on OEM parts. You are paying a premium for a worse user experience.
>>65062630You are the reason US birthrates are down.
>>65061849>cuck legal PS90 if you don't mind having something longer than a garandWdhmbt?
>>65062545>I’m pretty close to indifferent on female tattoosWrong, you are not. You hate girls with tattoos because you are bi at best. You just cover by whiteknighting tattooed WHORES!
>>65064512A gentleman with br dignity.
>>65064500the overbuilt nature of the gun reduces recoil and makes them practically immune to breakage
>>65064361yeah great an oversized unergonomic piece of soviet junk designed to be given to conscriptovich for a trench assault he was almost certain not to live through
>>65064565>say I’m indifferent to tattoos>this means I hate girls with tattoos>which means I take dicks in my assI am not following any of the steps of your logic
>>65061849PCCs are a gang of compromises. Thats why, even the military ones with full auto are junk.FULL SIZE RIFLE IS KING.
>>65064923>full size rifle is kingThat’s the point of an assault rifle. It is the next gen of smgs. The benefits could not be ignored any longer so they were incorporated into a universal infantry rifle. Smgs are obsolete now. What little niche roles they can still fill are better served by a 300 blackout sbr. I’ll apply an exception for mag-in-grip SMGs for where compactness is of paramount importance. intermediate cartridges can’t do that
>>65064923>>65064963Yeah but you don't need an intermediate caliber for close quarters combat
>>65064968Didn't need Kunetsov either.14-10" rifles won.Anything else is cope or a situation who's improbability defies logistics.
>>65064963>i derive my understanding of firearms from vidya and moeeevieslol
>>65064890>oversizedshorter than a mosin>unergonomicAR-15 style charging handle in 1931, weight is of no concern if you're not a bitch, magazine changes are smooth, iron sights are quick to acquire, and has a quick change barrel.>soviet junkFinnish, and is made of exceptionally high quality machined steel and arctic birch. Clearly still superior to plastic trash embroidered with american flags, considering it can actually get through several magazines without a stoppage.>conscript blahblahKP31 was issued to the best men of each finnish squad, and used to great effect on many waves of bolsheviks.
>>65064919>I am not following any of the steps of your logicThis is how confused you are, seek help. Go straight.
>>65064361How are those TNW Suomi conversions? I heard some models are finnicky or have horrid triggers.
>>65061849My Stribog hasn't given me any issues, but admittedly I did install a short-stroke buffer and replace the lower receiver pretty early on.SP9A3S and the 10mm one seem to be the best versions.
>>65065275I have no idea, mine is a indy ordnance build with a lot of tuning and custom springs, trigger is somewhere between an AR15 and MP44. If you're interested in a KP31 definitely get the indy tube/bolt and a kit, the TNW's are known for being kind of shit.
>>65065279Nice 'bog, m8.
My local reservist club has a ADC PCC and it jams at least once every fucking time we have a shooting event. Makes me wanna hatefuck it with a cleaning rod.
>>65065348>ar9into the trash. get a mp5 clone.
>>65065349I am not gay
>>65065387But I am
>>65065397i'm also a girl btw :)
>>65061849>with the terminal effectiveness of a 10/22oh boy, here we go again
>>65065279>cmorePatrician.>SP9A3S and the 10mm one seem to be the best versions.Yes.
>>65065399No, but you're daddy was.
>>65065460>"n-nuh uh"go to bed, boomer
>>65061849She annoys me
>>65063987Runs just fine on my machine :^)
>>65064552Both the CZ and the PMX are straight blowback are they not? I'm not saying that's good but they seem pretty similar in that area, what am I missing here?
>>65065411he's right though
>>65066125NTA but I have a PMX and there's a little spring-loaded ball bearing that interfaces with the bolt carrier. I have no clue if it actually does anything to delay the action, though.That said, there was a time where Beretta was dumping all their PMXes and selling them for cheap and that's what I assume anon was talking about.
>>65062177Peak MP5 aesthetics there, how they were setup on my old job.
>>65061870Aero procession vs H&K guys
>>65064029It has so many ergonomic flaws, but it shoots great and is reliable. You can't beat that.
>>65066723MP5 A2I don't have any relevant MP5 pictures, so have a totally safe, not at all problematic German wonder weapon of the Second World War.
The Linda was perfection.
>>65065279if that's not junk I'll take it
>>65066843>The little tard propeller at the front, to generate electricity I assume It was such an oddball flying coffin.Anyway, MP5SD or suppressed AR (.223) with subsonic rounds? Which is gonna give me better ballistics.
>>65066983>suppressed AR (.223) with subsonic roundsYou're not going to run an AR with subsonic rounds, the only .223 subs are designed for bolt actions and won't cycle a semi auto.
