Why doesn't France have a civilian firearms industry like a lot of other continental European nations? France isn't terribly strict on firearms ownership and they have a reasonable industrial base, but the only gun company in France I know of is Chapuis. Do they just have shit export/manufacture laws or something?
>>65063368>France isn't terribly strict on firearms ownershipYes they are.
>>65063368>Why doesn't France have a civilian firearms industry like a lot of other continental European nations?They did, and then like in Britain they regulated it out of existence.
>>65063368>why doesn't [totalitarian shithole] allow its peasantry to be armed?Gee.Europe really did learn nothing from WW2. Dumbfucks.
>>65063530Board is fucking unusable because every fucking post almost immediately gets derailed by some American dickhead yammering on about brown hands, mossad, seething thirdies, europoors, cope, yadda, yadda, fucking yadda.
>>65063415Italian here, I might be remembering wrong but I think San marino should be green as well. I don't think you need to give a "good reason" to get a permit. Whenever I browsed their laws they were basically a carbon copy of Italian laws (even with the same exact punctuation sometimes) bar some laws regarding white weapons and replicas IIRC. Don't change the map just because of me though as I might be remembering wrong. Sorry for the bad English.
>>65063368We stopped producing small arms in France because it was a very small industry, not critical for independence, and we're already spread thin with airplanes, submarines, tanks and carriers.
>>65063368>France isn't terribly strict on firearms ownershipThey really are.A good example is Manurhin MR73 revolvers. The O.G. ones they made at the Mulhouse plant (before the brand got taken over by Chaupis) were originally available with 9mm cylinders you could swap in. That didn't last long, 9mm was banned because it was a "military cartridge".
>>65063388>>65064631I mean for a Eurofag continental nation, they're not New Zealand tier and even Belgium has FN HerstalI think it's weird historically they didn't really have a city or region with a gunsmithing industry like Liege or Birmingham
>>65063368France uses an arsenal system. All the military manufacturers are owned by the government. In a country where firearms ownership is a niche activity, that doesn't leave much of a market for a private company. Other Euro gun companies can get fat military contracts to sustain a civilian sector.
>>65064641>I think it's weird historically they didn't really have a city or region with a gunsmithing industry like Liege or BirminghamGotcha, I know what you mean now.That is interesting. The French are famous for having produced some amazing artistic weapons--I'm talking about workshops like LePage, Gastinne-Renette, Boutet, or picrel. That sort of workmanship was arguably better than anything coming out of Liege or Birmingham. They also had some major innovations like Lefachaux's breech-loading mechanism, Flobert's invention of the rimfire, etc, but they had nowhere near the gun industry of elsewhere in Europe. That is strange. Now that I think about it, they weren't all that famous for their cutlery industry either. Yeah places like Boutet made amazing presentation swords and whatnot but France didn't have an answer to Sheffield, Solingen, etc, that I know of?
>>65064665>France didn't have an answer to Sheffield, Solingen, etc, that I know of?They have Laguiole knives but that's sort of the same situation where they're high quality artisan pieces rather than mass manufacture industrial piecesI love mine, though.
>>65064665When the entirety of your artisinal and industrial base is either in service to the military or the wealthy you really don't want a bunch of smelly peasants getting their hands on weapons.>over 8000 revolts in a 100 year periodhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_France
>>65063999That anon was right though and you are a seething turdie. Euroshits regulated their firearms industry into the dirt because they only need 1 company to produce the state adopted military rifle and they aren't going to produce shit for the non-existant civilian market, or hope they can export to America. No amount of twisting yourself into knots trying to make Europe's poor decisions America's fault will ever change that. The board is unusable because nogunz war tourists like (you) think anyone gere values your hot take on geopolitics or the latest watermark laden webm
>>65063999If you're not American leave. You don't own guns and never will. You don't belong here, so go to a website in your shithole country's language and talk to retards of your own breed.
>>65064665Saint-Étienne was a major firearms producer with a of metal working and coal industry. Not sure if it rivaled Sheffield or not though.
>>65064901Sheffield was a major center for cutlery, so knives and swords and that kind of thing. They were also famous for woodworking tools. They didn't have a major gun industry, that was more concentrated in Birmingham.>>65064672France had some other well known cutlery brands, like Sabatier and Opinel too, though none of them were as large as the German or British concerns.
>>65065121I liked my Opinel until the blade rusted shut after getting wet :(
>>65064700Anon, every single historical american gun company is being bought by either an italian, a czech or a german company. You americans couldn't make a gun work if your life depended on it.
>>65063999shut up and fuck off yuronigger
>>65065980We really don't care about Remington, Springfield armory, S&W, or Winchester.
>>65065980M8, every single anywhere and anything company is getting bought up by private equity firms. Fuck man, one bought up Steyr a couple of years ago. You're going to watch Yuppies and Boomers rot out and destroy the economy in every single nation, and you're going to like it.
>>65063368I think they have retarded export laws. not that the nazis don't but the nazis make their shit in like turkey or something and get around the retarded export laws. it is kind of weird because bongland, eyetaly, turkey, belgium, naziland, portgual by way of belgium (idk if they have their own shit but FN stuff under the browning and winchester names get made in portgual and turkey) and a bunch of the slav countries and finland have notable gun makers. Maybe it's a pride thing? Like I think a lot of the reason the bongolians don't just >shut it downis because they don't want to close something like Holland and holland
>>65065710never close your opinel until you have to transport it in a bagalternatively, get carbon bladeI really like the fact that they're cheap so I don't feel bad about treating it roughly
>>65063530You have a president who just ignores rulings of the supreme court...
>>65063999>no it's the Americansyou faggots keep making the no gunz threads, thirdie
>>65064563>white weaponswhat?
>>65064700good post>>65064705another good post
>>65065980mossberg and I think savage are still yuro free
>>65065988based post and same>>65067536nah
>>65069224double edged knives, bayonets, lances, swords, etc
