For the Empire edition.Post gats that served in the era of kings and empires. Bonus points if there's a crown on it.Old Thread>>64919286
>>65066832Oldest gun I have. Only Imperial. Also the shittiest.Austro-Hungarian Empire 1903 (according to barrel stamp) Man-Licker M95 from RTI.
>>65066990The only place I have ever seen a mint condition Austrian service rifle is their military museum. I have no idea why they all ended up sooooo fucked.
>>65067081Not sure if this is true or not, but if I had to guess it might be be because of the countries that ended up holding on to them post-WWI and their standard for storage or care compared to more desirable rifles. That said, there's at least a couple anons on this general with M95s in surprisingly great condition.
>>65066832>Bonus points if there's a crown on it. This thing has a crown stamped on just about every part of it.
>>65067081That tends to happen when you lose wars and need to give your gear away as war reparations, then said reparations get sent off to the fringes of the empires that defeated you to be used by people marginally smart enough to figure out how to use a can opener.
>>65067205>That said, there's at least a couple anons on this general with M95s in surprisingly great condition.Most of the nice ones were guns that stayed in the countries they originally served in (Austria, Hungary, and Bulgaria) and got refurbished. Original M.95 still in 8x50 are quite difficult to find in nice shape.
>>65067857The really nice ones went to Britain.They got re-barrelled and sportered before being sold world wide.
>>65067857>Most of the nice ones were guns that stayed in the countries they originally served in (Austria, Hungary, and Bulgaria) and got refurbished.Hungary used them HARD. It's difficult to find a 31m that isn't well used.
Is 4750-5000 a good price on a Russian 1895 with the inspectors markingUnfortunately don’t have a picture of it but the gun metal looked kinda dark making me think it might’ve been reblued or somethingDidn’t see an inspectors marking on the stock but I wasn’t looking as hard as possible
>>65063967I have some more commercial stuff other than that one rifle.The rifle (pictured top) is a pre-war Czech in 8x60S, optic is a 4x Optikotechna. Gun is stupid nice.Next is a post-war 1951 Mannlicher Schoenauer in 7x57. Scope is a weaver 60B. This is a decent shooter.Below that is a Orbendorf sport rifle (duffle cut) in 8.15x46. All matching, but more of a collector piece.Last rifle is a pre-war Orbendorf type S factory sporter. Unfortunately it's been fucked with. Original sight removed, stock grip removed, new rear sight added.I got it as a shooter, but also because type S rifles are kinda rare.Here within the next month I'll be trading the Type S for a Steyr of some sort. The guy that wants it has like 200 rifles in his collection. Told me to come over and pick something out. I haven't decided if I'm going with a military or commercial steyr yet.
>>65069818>no Lee Speedcome on now
>>65069830I've had a BSA sporter before, but sold it long ago. I'm not much of a commercial collector, and I'm just not a fan of British stuff overall. .303 or cock-on-close.
>>65068315>Hungary used them HARD. It's difficult to find a 31m that isn't well used.Damn, I didn't realize that Hungary used them that hard. I thought that with the adoption of the 35M, they would have gotten off a bit less use out of the M.95s.
Have the chance to nab a Yugo M24/47 for 300ish bones, might be able to talk them down to 250. Stock is ugly and full of cosmolene, bore is absolutely pristine though. Not sure if I want to pay for 8mm... Don't have any Mausers. Worth it, or wait for something better?
Snagged an 1891 Argie in good intact condition. Long time since I've seen one that wasn't sporterized.
>>65073061>Not sure if I want to pay for 8mmis this a price per round or availability problem for you? cause if the price of 8mm is dissuading you than maybe dont get too deep into surp. That said, 24/47 for 300 is nice, definitely try for 250 or 275.
>>65073075Bit of both. None on the shelves locally, and it's north of $1.25/rd most places online. My 03-A3 is cheaper to feed, but it would still be neat to have. I don't have much surp, but the mechanical, old world allure of a real wood and steel fighting rifle is hard to resist.
>>65073087Well, youll need to reconcile with the price of ammo first. Is your rifle budget low as well? If not, consider waiting around for a rarer or higher quality Mauser that you take out occasionally with a small amount of 8mm you would buy on sales. Or if you are taking the cheapest possible route, than stick with the 24/47 and same on the ammo, just wait for deals or sales and take it out osccasionally.
>>65072859Hungary lost a lot of 35Ms so they pulled their 31Ms out of storage and reissued them.
>>65073550Based and feg pilled
CMP has 1903s again
>>65075119>Duel Field Magnetic Particle Inspection
>>65075663magnaflux inspection. cover it in really fine metal powder and expose it to magnet. cracks or faults in steel create higher magnetic fields highlighting the cracks. really common in industrial applcations, also popular with engine guys for testing steel engine blocks for cracks. can be used with a developer and UV light to see it better.
>>65075724neat
>>65075119I've been trying to find a 1903A3 for years but all the boomers are demanding $2k for them. I love my plain 1903 but kind of want an A3 because of the rear sight. What all does "reclaimed" entail? Are these the ones that have the newly manufactured receivers or are they original with just a new barrel and stock?I'm very tempted anon.
>>65075663The original machine had a base plate of pre-famulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented.
>>65075953Sounds like the sales pitch for the Rockwell Automation's Retrocabulator
>>65075953Ah yea, ok. Got it.
>>65075948They’re reactivated drill rifles. The mag cutoff was welded in the “off” position, the bolt face welded shut and firing pin tip clipped. The barrels were plugged and tack-welded to the receiver ring to prevent easy unscrewing. My concern with the recent CMP Expert A3s is that I have seen at least two with new Minelli stocks with insufficient clearance around the receiver tang leading to chipping or splitting at the wrist of the stock. No armorer should have ever approved those for sale.
>>65075119Please tell me they are going to start selling stock sets. I'll be damn if I'm going to pay 300 dollarydoos to some Ebay Boomer.
>>65069965You're missing a Dutch Geweer turn-bolt steyr.
>>65077618>Dut*h0.85 Guilder has been deposited into your accout.
>>65075948It's not surp.
>>65077707do you accept tulip-coin?
>>65077727I’ll send you a Tikkie.
>>65075948Make an account on gunboards, make enough posts to view the trader section, then start searching. An 03A3 just sold today for $800. I regularly see them for around $1000.
If you're building a Hotchkiss, better get in on the last run for m1922 receiver sections on weaponsguild. Waiting for my round one to get here. Mine from first order lready shipped. Will do a build guide after I do first two kits. Also waiting on the how to for converting them to belt fed.
Have any of you all moved your collection across the country before? I’m having to relocate from the Midwest to Phoenix for work and have about 20 long guns that need to make the trip with me. Not to mention the safe and ammo crates and boxes and such. I was planning on just keeping them all with me in the trunk of my car instead of in the moving truck with everything else, but I’ll still be staying in hotels a few times since I won’t be able to do the drive all in a day.
>>65081483Tuck as many guns into your personal vehicle as possible and leave the ammo and other heavy stuff in the moving truck. If you can't fit everything, you should be fine to leave lower value long guns with the moving company. No pistols if it can be helped.Don't tell a living soul you have these items in your vehicle and don't be retarded while driving. Plan your hotel stops ahead of time so you aren't in the middle of a major city when you need to sleep.Do everything in your power to minimize the chances you get stopped by police or stay in an area where car break ins happen and it should be an easy trip.More than likely the moving company can be trusted if you aren't being scammed by illegals, but it is wise to box things up discreetly. Make absolutely sure you have the guns in cases that you can put a lock on. Even if they are soft cases with the shittiest $5 lock you can buy. If you don't and are stopped by police while in a state/jurisdiction that requires guns to be locked up while transported, your life is basically over.
>>65080595Oh shit. Thanks for the update, I didn't see the post on the forums.It doesn't sound like Gunnerboy is messaging folks this time? I guess we're just supposed to blindly send in money orders?I put myself down for a kit and a SA pin. You know if that's everything needed for a build?
>>65081641Yeah what I did first time. I think that's it. Firing pins aren't ready yet so I'll have to order that later. Once stuff gets here I'll make a 3d print reweld jig for it.
>>65077714>>65076333Checked. Yeah. That pretty much killed any enthusiasm I had for them. I know the CMP are a reputable organization but they sound sketchy. I was still able to qualify at 100 yds range with my vanilla M1903 when I took it to Talladega, so it's a "good enough" shooter for my purposes.>>65079103Thanks for the tip. I might consider this. Anything is better than gunbroker I guess. I just hate forum culture and all their stupid rules and power-tripping mods.
>>65081483>>65081573>Plan your hotel stops ahead of time so you aren't in the middle of a major city when you need to sleep.I did this and specifically picked drive-up style motels on outskirts of towns, and politely asked for 1st floor each time.
>>65081866Add to this, have it towards parking lot, park your car right outside your window. Put heavy plastic liner on the floor. Find some meth out hookers on tinder or grinder. Pee all over each other. Call it a night.
>>65081993>>65081866One of things ive done is stuff things in a big Ski or snowboard bag while moving from the car to the room. I typically pack things in my car that way when traveling from the big shows
>>65082011Also write something like “Anon’s buttplugs” on the outside of stuff.
>>65081573Thanks, that’s pretty much my plan. The only problem state I have to drive through is Illinois and the law requires firearms to be unloaded and in the trunk (or otherwise inaccessible). I’ll probably have to buy some extra cases. Might take all the bolts out/slides off and keep them in my backpack as extra insurance against cops being dicks. I’ll be planning out my trip so that I stay the night in decent areas, also I drive a very unassuming car so I think I’ll be ok.
>>65066832CrownpostingI really need to take some new pics
I'm shopping for a Mauser 1914 pistols. I specifically want a .32 ACP (hence 1914 and jot 1910) and I want a pre 1934 update model. I have done some reading and watched some videos, but I always find out stuff I wish I would have known after I buy something, so anything you guys feel like typing up or linking would be appreciated.
>>65066832Not guns but this is the closest to a military gear thread that exists. I found a couple pieces of old surplus equipment for next to free recently (most cleaned up very easily) and this popped up while I searched through junk. I had to witness and hold this horror, now so do you! I'm 99% sure it's a WWII era German shovel and not a repro. The nut is made of some kind of fabric-filled phenolic resin. Someone used it to mix what I can only figure is concrete and left it harden on the shovel. I'm starting to barely be able to see what I think is a maker's mark. I'm cleaning it little by little; I'm hoping vinegar works as good on concrete as guys show online. The nut won't even start to move. =(
>>65084851Get a spring kit for it from Wolff. I bought one for my Dad a few years ago and good thing I tested it before I gave it to him because the striker spring broke after only 4 shots.
>>65084895Very cool! Good on you for taking care of it. I think it's post war, the WW2 era ones were straight and didn't have the locking nut. The good news is that vinegar will eventually work and likely even on the nut. Also, being able to lock the blade (?) at 90° makes it much easier to dig with.I have one and the handel comes lose sometimes and I have to smash the rivet down, but other than that, I really like it. I have a post war East German one, which had a straight blade, but I can find it anywhere.
>>65084964>Get a spring kit for it from WolffEvergreen advice, but definitely a feather I'll put in my cap. I hear they are pretty mild shooting. The closest thing I have is a PPK in .380 and I'm hoping it will be a bit more mild than that. Even if it isn't, I still think I'm going to go for it.
>>65084990Thanks anon! I'm using vinegar as Backyard Ballistic's rust remover just wouldn't touch the concrete for better or worse. After the vinegar I'm hoping to use rust remover, but it and 3-in-1 wouldn't get the nut moving in the past. Luckily there's a metal part of the nut so I can get something on there to clamp and wrench on to slowly shimmy the nut back and forth to free it. I also found an American shovel, a WWI American mess kit knife, and some other stuff. Minimal effort required to clean all of them with the rust remover at hand; I probably spent more on that than the surplus, lol. Some tools were unexpectedly surplus (they're otherwise generic looking old tools save for the US stamp) so I have to wonder if some of the rusty yard tools I left behind that others bought weren't actually WWII surplus field tools with the paint worn off and a heavy layer of rust applied. Various full size mattocks (not mattock-picks), for example. Just too dirty to tell, especially when I didn't suspect they might be surplus.
>>65084851finding out that specifically the exact gun you bought was manufactured during the great peepee poopoo shortage and automatically the least desirable F- variant (you will literally be laughed at by boomers and banned if you post it) despite this fact not being mentioned once in the 12 books on the subject is part of the fun of buying a 100 year old gun.
>>65084994Yes it’s pretty soft on recoil.
Okay I'm going to rinse it off and give it a rest for tonight. My rust remover is diluted like 3:1 so it goes slow. I'm slowly starting to see a maker but I'd really like the rust to basically smear off rather than me scrub it off; the rust remover barely touches good metal if at all so it will do less harm than I will with mechanical removal. This is the only thing I've broken out the #0000 steel wool for with few exceptions; I want to be gentle. Interestingly all the descriptions say "blued" IIRC but mine is painted with a very thin, fine, and even layer of black paint. Can't find a complete list of makers marks unfortunately and some are text only descriptions.
>>65085335It's looking good. How did you get the concrete off? Mine is painted and the handel was lacquered. I can't see a makers mark, but it may be painted over.
>>65085547>How did you get the concrete off?Vinegar. Might've put a single squirt of Dawn in the water as well. I looked it up on YouTube and was surprised that vinegar was the solution to my problems for once; I've long since stopped using it for rust removal as that rust remover typically does the job for all dirt and rust (and fast, without removing markings), but also removes bluing and paint, same as vinegar. Bluing is just rust with more oxygen. Back to concrete removal, the vinegar softened the concrete and allowed removal with #1 steel wool and a brass brush and I'd get another layer off each hour or so. Take out, dawn powerwash spray on, scrub gently, rinse off, back in for an hour. The long brass brush from the Harbor Freight 6pk kit works well (SKU: 69526). There's a few tutorials on YouTube that go over concrete removal, mostly from construction and concrete tools. I also used a shitty old flat faced round punch as a manual needle scaler to get the stubborn stuff off so the shovel wouldn't need to sit in the vinegar any longer than required as it tends to round off details IIRC. As for the rust remover, it's 100g citric acid powder/40gr washing soda powder/1000mL water/squirt of Dawn. It is on par with Evaporust, just way cheaper. I typically dilute it because I don't have a ton of citric acid and I need like 3 gallons of it. I've diluted it 2:1, maybe even 3:1 and it works fine. Full power it's super fast. Do it water, citric acid, stir well, slowly add washing soda and stir. Have a lot of room above the water line. It will fizz and rise like it's boiling. After it's all added, continue stirring well until all is dissolved. Add soap LAST or you will have a foamy mess!>I can't see a makers mark [on mine], but it may be painted over.Mine seems to be a very shallow mark compared to what I see online. This is the first hint I've even seen of it so I wouldn't doubt even a light coat of paint would fill some maker's marks in easily.
>>65086464Awesome. How are you going to finish it once you get it completely stripped? Is the nut loose?Also, bayonets for general mil surp intrests.
>>65086571>How are you going to finish it once you get it completely stripped?I'm leaving the metal bare for now. So hard to get a thin coat of paint like what was on it as I don't have a paint gun and paint available, though I may have something if I dig. Handle will be getting a clean with soap and water to get dirt freed and then a canned wax rub to protect it. Use anything with a solvent, not turtle wax. Big mistake on my last shovel was turtle wax; every pit and scratch has this white-green chalky look which takes a lot of work to scrub off with a soft brush and it takes forever to dry before you can hand buff it. The cool bakelite nut will be something I concentrate on when waxing and buffing to a shine by hand; that stuff comes out beautifully when done right. I'll try to use blue shop towels to limit lint.>Is the nut loose?No, unfortunately. I might PB Blaster the nut and let it sit a week. I love/hate the smell, halfway to mint/turpentine and halfway to mothballs. It does work, though. I just hope it's rust and not concrete in the threads. I've hit it with a wrench to shock it a couple times as well as twisting with a channel lock but the metal ring is just a collar/grommet shaped piece that the bakelite is molded into and through, so it may not be as strong as I thought.>bayonetsI get them so rarely due to price but I did get a Panasonic (National/Matsushita) made Arisaka bayonet finally. And maybe I should see if I can wax my VZ beaver barf bayonet; bet it'd look nice if I did and it'd be better protected.
Thinking about getting M95. 295$
>>65087391do it, a functioning centerfire rifle under $300 in general these days isn't a bad proposition. might as well get something interesting
>>65066832my 1888 is Spandau´d>>65067857not in Austria, just got one for 450, mint bore>>65087391the late war (leather substitute) sling on this one is worth 200 bucks alone my friend
Help i need to stop buying this pistol. I bought 4
Has anyone bought any of the Canadian 303 British ammo that Century has imported? I’m tempted to buy some, but I cannot find anything online where people say they have bought it and shot it. I want to make sure it’s not boxes of ammo full of duds.
>>65087391If you don't buy it, let me know where it is so I can.
I think this is as good as it'll get without damaging it. Lots of small pits due to long term rust which is common on the other outdoor equipment I bought at the same place. I'll have to fill them using primer or something. 1940, B&Co, Solingen. Inspector's mark just peeking through.
>>65088751>>65088057>>65087746Back the fuck off bub I know what I got
>>65088694Max Arms seems to have just ran out of Greek HXP 303 which was pretty well regarded. I only bought 1 can, but I also never shoot my Enfield (not racist, just don't like 'em).Someone's gotta make the gamble anon. Do it and report on it.
>>650668321895 Spandau Gew 88 I'm working on.
Guys where should I be looking for 30 40 krag? What should I be paying?I got a great deal on a japanese browning 1895 (repro) and i figured you guys would be more familiar with the ammo than others. Yes, I know I should have done some more research on the ammo availability first but it was given to me in a trade.Pic unrelated I dont have a photo of the 1895 yet.
>>65091490Your cheapest option’ll be to look online. Krag ammo at a minimum from a good source is around $1.50 per round without tax and shipping. In a regular gun store, that usually jumps to $2-4 per round. That’s if you can find it in a regular gun store in your area.
>>65091503Thanks.I looked at a few online. It would seem that i can get a box of "hornady custom sp" for 44 for a box of 20. Not sure if thats what I want.I found some hsm cowboy loads for less but it was only in stock on scam sites.I would prefer some lead round nose bullets and not some pissin hot 30-06 level custom hunting rounds.I plan on calling a couple of local places to ask them about it.I have a few specialty old/surplus firearm stores within a few hours of me.Figured id ask about it here first.
>>65090643>1895 Spandau Gew 88 I'm working on.That's a late one, you rarely see anything later than 1893 for the 88s. Has yours been turked at all?
>>65081483Good practices for after your move is done:I didn't want anyone in my old shitty apartment complex knowing I had guns, so I transported my rifles in old guitar cases instead. Great if you have anti-gun neighbors. Hotels with monumentally gay policies also won't question your guitar cases either.Get your windows tinted if AZ is cool with that, and keep a large surp wool blanket in the back seat to cover stuff up during range/show travels requiring stops. It'll also prevent you from getting hypothermia if you are ever unfortunate enough to have your car break down on a wicked cold night and a tow is hours away. This has all worked for me, along with basic OPSEC stuff like not having gun-related stickers on my vehicle.
Any tips on getting my hands on a SMLE No. 1 MK III in good condition? I've never looked for an old collectible rifle before.Do I just trawl gun broker websites 'til I happen across a good catch? I'm trying searches at various websites using different variations of "SMLE No. 1 MK III" or "Lee-Enfield model 1 mark 3" and so on.What should I look for when checking out a potential buy? I figure YouTube has some useful videos on this part, but I figured I'd ask you guys too.
>>65093284No 1 MkIII are pretty common at major gunshows and are typically not as badly boomer priced. there are lots of bubbad ones, but intact ones are easy to come by.Avoid gunbroker as a general rule. But keep an eye on Liberty Tree, they pop up often there if you have to resort to online.
>>65088311I got one as well. Couldn't pass it up for the price. Really smooth DA trigger and a good overall shooter. Grip angle feels a little awkward so I'll probably sit on it a few years and flip it later once the surplus dries up.Be sure to remove the magazine disconnect so that you can use S&W 59 series mags. I got some for 10 bucks each.
>>65091600It's definitely the latest Gew 88 I've ever owned let alone seen in a while. Although I've heard there are 1897 Spandau's out there. Mine is purely a South American import; likely never been to Turkey. It is complete and just needs a few more parts cleaned up, however, the beautiful tiger stripe stock has some challenging cracks I'll need to repair. Once that project is done I'll be moving on to my 1889 Spandau Gew 88. I recently re-caught the Gew 88 bug after not owning any for nearly 20 years.
>>65093284Learn about the small details of the SMLE and how they changed over time as pattern variants and upgrades were implemented. For instance, you say you want a Mk.III but you posted a pic of a Mk.I*. Ian Skennerton's Lee-Enfield book is very thorough on this but it is expensive. You might watch C&Rsenal's series of videos on the Lee-Enfield's service up to and through WW1. Use the references cited in the video as well. Lurk the trader section of Gunboards or post a WTB in the appropriate section.
>>65093343Got the magazine disconnect out.It's very easy. You need a punch set and needle nose pliers.>Remove slide.>Punch trigger axis pin out 1/3 of the way to the left. >DO NOT punch it all the way out. You'll have to reassemble the trigger components if you do that and it's going to be far more complicated.>Magazine disconnect is a lever sitting inside the right side of the frame, projecting into the magazine well.>It needs to be lifted upwards. This is tricky because if you just pull on it with a screwdriver it likes to wedge itself along the internal slide rails. >Needle nose pliers are better for lifting it straight upwards. I used a small adjustable wrench for the same effect.>Punch trigger axis pin back in.>Reattach slide.>Function check.The trigger actually feels good with and without the disconnect. Not really any difference there. The major advantage is being able to shoot with no magazine inserted and to be able to use much cheaper S&W 59 magazines. The ones I have don't activate the slide hold open every time but they are cheap-ass Ram-Lines from the 1990s. I definitely recommend everyone who gets a 30M to do this, since it's easy, reversible and there is no downside.
>>65081745Half my order got here. The half I did get looks good. Called them about the missing half... He said he shipped somebody else a free blank and needs to send me another.
>>65095950Doesn't look like it will be too hard
>>65096051Looking good anon. Has anybody already finished one and posted videos of them running yet? Not seeing anything about these elsewhere.>>65095950>sent somebody a free blanklol. lmao even.
Got a Jinsen Last ditch Type 99 today
>>65098360Very cool, is it an interesting super last ditch variant?I picked up a Type I a few weeks ago.
>>65096051I've got the same hammer in my gunsmithing kit, lol
>>65098426It really is the best hammer for fixing issues with an AK or even on an AR as a boomer gives you looks of disgust.
>>65098412It looks like the late war example in thishttps://type99arisakas.weebly.com/40th-series.htmlMum has 2 slashes on it but far from being ground offnot sure how matching it is considering I could barely make out the serial number on the receiver let alone the bolt and other parts.>Type 1Is that one of the weird paratrooper ones?
>>65098484Type I for Italian, Its the Carcano reskin Japan bought that one time. Mine was made by Beretta
>>65093284>I've never looked for an old collectible rifle beforeNot to dissuade you, but if you intend on shooting it, be aware that ammo is a bit more expensive for these old guns. .303 British isn't the worst in the world, but you are probably going to want to look into reloading. At the very least, try to buy boxer primed ammo and save your brass and just be thankful you aren't into Japanese rifles.
>>65098655>just be thankful you aren't into Japanese rifles.Price aside, 7.7 jap and 6.5 jap is still in modern production and readily available online.Scarcity and price definitely dissuade a lot of folks from surp collecting, but for many of the basics the ammo is still readily available, price being the only major factor.
>>65098539>Carcano reskin JapanI would say it's the Carcano+Seriously Italy what the fuck, you had a pretty good rifle overall but the major flaw was the stupid en blocs, yet you solve it with the internal box magazine for the Type I for the Nips and their autism, yet don't use it on your own home rifles. Fucking wops, they had it and blew it.
>>65098709>The greatest rifle Italy could produce was deemed only adequate for 2nd line non-combat roles or emergency use in other nationsbrutal
>>65088751https://legacy-collectibles.com/steyr-m95-30-carbine-8x56r-4031/Here it is if you are still interested.
>>65098966I remember seeing one of these is the original caliber for $125 and I probably should've bought it
>>65098686Available in ze lobby!
>>65098539I got one of those type I. I've been trying to find one made by Beretta cause the tism. I forgot which mine is, just know it's not Beretta.
>>65093284If you find one rechambered for 7.62 don't be dismissive of it, no.4 Lee Enfields were used right upto the Falkands as the L42A1. A 7.62 Enfield will give you a lot more choice and cheaper ammo
>>65069818Those commercial rifles are beautiful anon
>>65099153Is that the M1909 that's been re-bored to .410Ga?
>>65099162I've shot one of these sniper variants w/ the bull 308 barrel, original scope is soo niceBest smle I've ever handled
>>65100375Yes well remembered, I've not posted about it for over a year since I ran into problems with chambering .410 and I had a baby so never got round to fixing it. .410 has thicker brass than 8mm mauser so the extractor won't slip over it, which explains why the old one was broken
>>65099162>If you find one rechambered for 7.62 don't be dismissive of itHell yeah. You can still get ammo for it at Walmart.
>>65100816>.410 has thicker brass than 8mm mauser so the extractor won't slip over itThat should be easy to modify and fix but>I had a babyPriority 1 puts a lot of stuff on the back burner. Congratulations, anon.
>>65100929Thanks anon, I think I've set my working guns twice since he was born. It's not even that he really stops me, it's just bee winter and I have a dozen other things to do. I'm at the point with the g98 where I've done all I can with my tools and abilities and need an actual gunsmith to have a look. But spending the time and money is a bottom tier thing at the moment
>>65098858Honestly the Arisaka and it's variants is pretty hard to beat in general it's essentially a better Mauser. Overall the Carcano isn't a bad rifle especially for Italy since they were broke. That said the major downside was the magazine and en bloc clips. Which they fixed with the Type I, but for some odd reason never put on their own rifles.
>>65101339It was cost. When Japan was negotiating the order with Italy, There were two options for the magazine/receiver. 350 liras each for a rifle with a Carcano magazine system with bloc clips or 400 liras each for a mauser style magazine system just like the Type 38.Japan was of course willing to pay for such a great upgrade but there is no way Italy could afford a 15% cost increase on every rifle they tried to procure for their own army.
>>65101339>it's essentially a better Mauser.Is this just the >Japane thingMeme? Because If you have ever held one next to a K98 or m/96 you might change your mind. The 1903 Springfield is pretty much the ultimate expression of the Mauser in a military service rifle.I mean, the Arisaka is a great gun, but even early war models are a bit unrefined.
>>65101410>Because If you have ever held one next to a K98 or m/96 you might change your mind.Unironically sold my 99 last month, for unrelated reasons. That said the arisaka action is way stronger than people think, even the last ditches were like that too. That said every rifle goes through trials and is pretty clunky in the beginning. For fuck sake how many revisions did the 1903 had to the rear sight.
>>65101440>even the last ditches were like that too.NTA but while yes the arisaka action has retarded strength the last ditch variations could not handle the same amount of firing that the early war ones could.The metallurgy and stock material quality had simply fallen off a cliff and yeah you can still use it effectively but its service life will be majorly shorter than its early war counterparts
Let me guess. You "need more".
>>65101410>The 1903 Springfield is pretty much the ultimate expression of the Mauser in a military service rifle.It's really only exceptional in the machining fit and finish allowing for easy interchangeability of parts. The Mauser 98, especially with the M1910 modifications is stronger and better at handling gas leakage and the Japanese T38 is retard-strong. >>65101440>how many revisions did the 1903 had to the rear sight.Four, which is one fewer than the Krag.
trench anon here. I will have a progress report this weekend after I get a little more work done. There are fewer projects to do right now so I can get a little more done on it.
I fucking hate the milsurp world discord. They fuck me out of deals all the time by blabbering on anything good.That douche milsurp mike just fucked me out of a Type 35 that was mislabled. THAT WAS MINE!
>>65101703The one misidentified as a T30? That’s uncommon enough on its own to keep from flying under the radar. Anyone serious enough to care about a T30 will probably spot the difference immediately.>Milsurp MikeWas he the fat guy who once posted a video of a whole line of rifles tipping over because he was storing them by just leaning each against the wall without any support?
>>65101767>The one misidentified as a T30?Yes. Not too many seem to actually care for a Type 30 desu. That's why they are usually Type 38 prices.This guy: https://www.youtube.com/@MilsurpMikeChannel/videosHe always spends out the ass for everything.
>>65101786I remember that dude popped up on my recommended. Insta blocked him. Not sure why, just annoying as fuck thirty seconds in to his video. Boomer vibes and the ick.
>>65101786>>65101703When did the Type 30 or 35 go from the hook safety to the nurdled knob? i seem to remember there being a transitional safety between the 30 and 38 that was almost totally round, but had a small nub sticking out. Maybe im remembering this wrong?
>>65101802The Type 38 started the knurled knob and it had a nub that progressively got smaller over production till it looked like a Type 99 safety
>>65101820ok. Im in the market for a Type 38, and that had been bugging me about where I might encounter the nub. I wouldnt pass up a Type 30 though.
>>65101786>Yes. Not too many seem to actually care for a Type 30 desu. That's why they are usually Type 38 prices.If I could find a Type 30 that wasn't sanded with a sewer pipe for a bore, I'd love to get one. Sanded and beat to death seems to be the norm for the ones I've seen though.
>>65101703>hanging out on a milsurp discord with the worst tards in the entire community misery
>>65101879>a milsurp discord with the worst tards in the entire communityDid the /msg/ disco die?
>>65101505Yes, I do
>>65101440>the arisaka action is way stronger than people think,I was never questioning the strength of the action. Just the fit and finish. It's actually quite good combat weapon. It is strong, accurate and reliable without being wasteful on unnecessary details.I often joke that the Germans may have won the war if they weren't preoccupied with stamping little eagles on every bit of metal they could get their hands on.>>65101573>the machining fit and finishThat's exactly what I was talking about. >retard-strongI have done things to a K98-K action you people wouldn't believe. I am absolutely convinced that there is basically nothing you can do short of straight up explosives that will catastrophically destroy a Mauser action.I have to admit, I appreciate the purge port on the Japanese actions, but I feel that has more to do with their confidence in their brass than anything.
>>65101703>milsurp world discordThat sounds awful
My RTI SMLE after a cleaning.Finally took it to the range. Was putting it off because I was afraid it would keyhole…
>>65104255This was 50 yards. Holy shit. I’m impressed.I don’t think I have any milsurps that can hit the X multiple times in 10 rounds. For 250$ I feel like I won the lottery. I think this thing earned a new stock and a re blueing.
>>65104258First time shooting an enfield. The few that got away were probably bad holds or bad trigger pulls. Overall great news.
>>65104255The brass butt plate is such a nice touch.
>>65104258Not bad at all. IDK how old you are, but a good pair of glasses goes a long way after a certain age. It looks like most of you dispersion is in the vertical, which can be tough with these old guns since most have a minimum sight distance of 100 yards/meters. I think rifle is definitely doing its part and all you need is to focus on a consistent vertical hold. I am extremely confident you can get them all in the black by the end of your next range trip.>250$Definitely an unbeatable deal. I would scoop that up in a heartbeat. It's a great looking gun and it seems to shoot well. Congrats, anon!Please tell me you kept your brass.
>>65066832Posting my crown since I've got a dumb ass question.Anyone got an Enfield 22 trainer? Do you like it? Would you recommend? I was looking for a very practical and reasonable CC piece and a 1907 Lithgow No2 MkIV .22 trainer jumped off the wall at me. Only $649, numbers matching, wood is dark but looks very nice and the visible metal is pristine.
>>65104298Thanks bro. I do wear glasses for driving, I wore prescription sunglasses this trip which I heard aren’t great for shooting.But nevertheless, I’m super excited to have gotten good results. Will definitely continue putting elbow grease into this rifle to keep it as pretty as it can be. And yeah I kept brass. 303 ain’t cheap.RTI is hit or miss, definitely happy to have gotten a winner this time. >>65104281The rifle is a 1917. Did they get rid of the brass in later years?
>>65067421This is gorgeous. Link me up to a Mauser for sale, below $500 that doesn't suck. I'm going to rebarrel and restock it to a custom rifle and just need an action. Cheaper is better.
>>65104339>just need an actionLong actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540", would make my life easy.
>>65104255Was this one of the RTI rifles where the mags were removed and sold separately? Hows that aftermarket one treating you?
>>65104339Just buy a stripped action. If you're going for a custom rifle there's no reason to buy a complete rifle and spend time (and therefore, money) removing a bunch of stuff from it first.
>>65104329>Did they get rid of the brass in later years?I'm not an Enfield specialist by any measure, but I'm pretty sure some have steel buttplates. IDK wjat the cutoff is or if it location dependent or what, but the brass is such a nice touch anyway. >1917I want a WWI rifle so bad. A K98 is like $1k and a 1903 is nearly $2k. $250 for a nice SMLE takes me back to the early 2000s where there were tables stacked deep with Russian capture K98-ks and $50 Nuggets.
>>65104352It was sold with a mag but the mag had a broken spring. I still have it and hope to fix it one day.The aftermarket mag is ok. Minimal issues but it does not fit the aged rifle.
>>65104369>I want a WWI rifle so badWhats your budget? or are you set on allies?1891 Carcano long bois and cavalry carbines easily dip below $400. duffle cut and beat to shit G98s can float around 700s too.
>>65104369I’ll do some research into the brass, that’s interesting. Never recognized it as unique as I don’t really know SMLEs.Yeah, I feel like WW1 rifles are getting tough to find too. They’re getting pricy. Definitely got lucky.The stock has an Ethiopian cross carved into it, some legit trench art. Just need a part of upper hand guard that matches and it’ll be complete.
>>65104357Thanks. Probably just hunt out a CZ550 Safari. Crossposting img.
>>65104369>1903 is nearly $2kDo you mean for a WW1 “correct” M1903? Because even on Gunjoker you can get a M1903 for $1K.
>>65075724Thanks for the explanation, anon. Very cool.
>>65104311I've got a Lithgow No.2 MkIV and it is super nice to shoot, although the casing would get stuck in the chamber sometimes. I'd definitely get it if I were you.
>>65104369>I want a WWI rifle so badJust get a B Grade M95 from RTI. Pretty sure those things were Austro-Hungarian Empire stuff that got surrendered to Italy before being shipped to Ethiopia.Those things witnessed WWI and countless goat fights in the storage barn.
>>65104709>9$ a round 8X50RVery fun rifle to shoot tho
>>65104375>the mag had a broken spring. I still have it and hope to fix it one day. If it's just the spring, you can get one on ebay for $10. Ebay is a great place for used gun parts. https://ebay.us/m/DnnShnIt should be an extremely simple replacement. Here is a video of how to take the magazine apart and put it back together. It is just over a minute long. https://youtu.be/q_EYP8i3Bz8You could even try to use the spring from the new magazine, but I'd be inclined to spend the $10.
>>65104383>1891 Carcano>>65104709>M95I do already load 6.5 Swedish and 8mm Mauser...>duffle cut and beat to shit G98sI'll eventually nut up and get one, I'm just waiting for it to come to me.>>65104396>WW1 “correct” M1903Yeah, I probably need to be less picky and just get a good shooter. I'm sure I'd enjoy it just the same.Also, I want everything and that keeps me from buying everything and that is actually a good thing.>>65104723>8X50RIs that what pic related is? This really cool old cowboy Nam vet mil-surp reloader guy gave it to me 20 years ago and it's just been in my 8mm ammo collection since.
>>65104798>and just get a good shooter.Because many collectors are still leery of the "low-number" issue with M1903s it means that most actual WW1-and-before M1903s that don't show signs of post-WW1 service/refurbishment are not any more expensive than a "high-number" shooter. >Is that what pic related is?That looks like 8x56R; 8x50mmR uses a bottlenose projectile.
>>65105115>collectors are still leery of the "low-number" issuethis retardation is what got me my rock island '03 #26k for 900 bucks and a free bayonet cause the boomer was like "careful now, thats a low number" and I was like pic related.
>>65105429Nice.
>>65105429meanwhile these same boomers are literally tripping over each other for CMP reclaimed garands
>>65106798I dont blame them too much. At that same show I picked up a Type 38 and the boomer said "thats a nice type 99 you got there". I corrected him and said, this is a type 38 (there was 0 doubt, it was a type 38). He then says, "nope, see its got the 2 holes those are Type 99s". I shrugged and put it down. I know way to many based boomers in my life that random retarded gunshow boomers dont phase me, and I dont rely on them solely as my source of surp.
>>65107010The inability of people to correctly identify rifles with their model designation written right on top is truly baffling.
>>65107583Was quite the headscratcher consdiering it was on his table that he was selling. I wasnt about to get into it, I just kept going.I am also the trench anon so here is the update. Ive started digging the slight offshoot that will go to the pillbox site. A tree came down recently where its going to go, so im going to need to cut it up before I go any further. Most just a digging and removing rocks kind of day
>>65109740especially this rock. FUCK this rock, it took forever to dig him out. Trips names it.
>>65109747Big Jim
>>65109747Little Jim
>>65109747Chiang Kai-shek
>>65109747Round Eye
>>65109747A rock or something
>>65109747Everytime I see one of these pistols I remember how Eugene Sledge mentioned he saw a soldier nearly blow his head off fiddling around with one
>>65109747Boomey
>>65110089>The bullets come outta the slim end, mate!
>>65093284Well, there happened to be a gun show in Phoenix over the weekend.I went to see if I could find an SMLE Mk.III.Lo and behold, I found one!I've catalogued all the immediately visible stamps and marks.I also found a neat PDF by the Lithgow Small Arms Factory Museum that explains said markings. I haven't disassembled it yet - I need to do more research!Now I need to get some stripper clips and a box of British .303.I also need to get a Pattern 1907 bayonet, so home invaders can be met with a bayonet charge.
>>65110309>holesgas vent holes
>>65101635>>65109740>>65109747Last time I saw a guy digging on /k/ it didn't end well.
>>65110309It's a Mk.III*: no magazine cutoff.
>>65109747The Bloop
>>65089476Alright anon you convinced me. I ordered 2 boxes of Canadian .303 ammo. I’ll shoot at least 1 box and report back. Unfortunately it’ll probably be a few weeks until I can do so. Work is going to eat up much of my time for the first 3 weeks of May. >>65104255Good job, anon. You gonna find a new handguard for it?>>65110309Congrats, anon. Enjoy it. Enfields are always nice to shoot with their nice sights, decent triggers, and smooth bolts.
>>65109747Medium Jim>>65114619What years are the 36s? A MAS 36 is on my list, but I’m being picky and want a pre war rifle. Also I’m not hunting real hard for one at this time. I wouldn’t mind a post war rifle if it was really nice and the price was right.
What do you guys do to decide what milsurp to buy next?I'm split between 4 different guns all around the same price
>>65109747Appropriately sized Jim
>>65115273I don't look for milsurp, it finds me. Just buy good deals that you stumble across.
>>65115273Buy all 4. prioritize the rarer ones but jump on any of the others along the way
>>65109747Rotund Jim
>>65109747Jim™
>>65109747JIM
>be IMA>buy a $300 hotchkiss kit from apex>3D print a display receiver >list it for $1600>already sold
>>65109747Michael the Immovable
>>65115140>What years are the 36s?1940, 1942, 1945, 1956 and 1956 for the 36/51. Still looking for more and still looking for the chamber adapters so I can shoot the .22 one.
>>65109747Put Me Back
>>65089415NO I KNOW WHAT I GOTYEEEEEHAW!>>65104396does your m1903s front sight post hood obstruct half your front sight post, like mine does?I was offered an original colt model navy from the civil war, guy asks 1800 eurobucks for it.how much would a gun like this be in the us?Austria sold Lorenz rifles to the confederacy btw., even before Hitler we did what we could to keep kikes and niggers down, lol.
>>65115586You gotta be shitting me. There's no way.>checks IMA>it's really 3D printed>sold outI'm in the wrong business.
>>65107010once a fudd asked if that m27 is an enfield
>>65115874lol
>>65115874>does your m1903s front sight post hood obstruct half your front sight post, like mine does?Maybe a tiny bit at the bottom, but if it's not bent the sight hood should be sitting pretty snug on the sight base.
Bump
>>65109747Biggie Rock
>>65115273Pretty much what >>65115364 said. There’s dozens of different surplus I could see myself purchasing, but nowadays I’m basically an opportunistic buyer. If a good deal pops up on a rifle or pistol I’d like to have, I’ll snatch it up. I don’t really search for anything in particular anymore.
>>65109747Trump
Recent news from the ATF. 1140-AA91: Update to Proscribed Countries for Import Restrictions - NPRM>The rule also proposes to remove the list of former Soviet countries from which ATF currently denies applications to permanently import most firearms and ammunition, retaining only the Russian Federation as a proscribed country of origin for these imports.Hopium?
>>65118116Does this mean Mosin's, SKS's and various combloc ammo is coming?
>>65118116Blackpill: What is there to get from these countries that hasn't been consumed in Ukraine? at best its going to be full auto AK-47s/similar guns we can't have as parts kits or a nugget wave with 200% scalping tax applied.New surplus ammo might be a silver lining but are shitholes like Kyrgyzstan even willing to part with it?
>>65118116Stop being fucking gay and take Russia/China off the ban lists. I want dirt cheap surplus and shit like SVDs.
>>65112461>You gonna find a new handguard for it?I really want one and think it deserves it. Actual complete upper hand guards are like 80$. Think this one deserves it for it’s went though and how it held up though.
>>65117661very nice stabby&bike>>65116095mine ostructs like half of the front sight post. it wobbles a bit. gotta tighten it up maybe.does the left one on your pic have an aftermarket front sight, broader and taller? i have this on my swedes and swiss, because i see shit with the thin original front sight blades& they shoot high.
>>65118355>does the left one on your pic have an aftermarket front sight, broader and tallerYou mean on the right? It's a reproduction of the USMC "No.10" sight set. It's a 0.1" wide blade and circular aperture. It brings the battle sight zero from 547yds down to 200yds.
>>65118116no. trump is a kike puppet and nothing pro gun will ever happen
>>65118136all surplus ammo has gone to the kike wars in syria, ukraine, afghanistan. theres nothing left
>>65109747sisyphus
>>65117778>>65115364This works really well for collecting.I went to the Tulsa gunshow with $4k in my pocket. I didn't really buy any big items, just magazines and odds and end. Nothing really blew my socks off that I didn't already have.It's nice to be able to just have that freedom. When you get fixated on a specific rifle you get obsessive and end up jumping on raw deals. In the end, you'll know that a good deal like it will come back around.This isn't always the case though, I was/am really interested in sport mausers, including Tyrolean mausers. At the time I checked gunbroker and found like 3 Tyrolean mausers up on auction and thought "oh cool these aren't as rare as I thought, I'll look out for a good one". The rifles seemed to disappear from the face of the earth and years go by before I even see another.
>>65118315>$80I was like “what? No way.” Turns out you aren’t lying. Do you have a C&R? Get a drill rifle from J&G sales. Then you’ll have handguards and an original magazine, too. I have 2 spare SMLE magazines from drill rifles and they both work perfectly in mu 1917 BSA and 1941 Lithgow.
>>65109747Hard Place
>>65109747The Official Dwayne The Rock Johnson Rock™
guys really live in apartments like this and see no issue
>>65124484Yeah.
>>65124721I'll never understand tag fags
>>65109747Ruck
>>65109747Eugene Stone
>>65109747James the Distinguished
>>65125413Trying to recreate that armory feel?
>>65109747Rock-kun
>>65109747Grug
>>65109747J I M I M
>>65109747St. George
>>65109747Peabody
>>65109747Jim of many faces
>>65109747Jimmy Jim Jim
>>65109747Hideki Jimbo
>>65109747Paul
>>65109747Fuckass
/msg/- Military Surplus General and rock naming
>>65109747inanimate carbon rod
>>65109747Feg-pilled
Man this rock just doesn't want to be named huh.
