Are these even used anymore or is everything now just cheap drones and artillery
>>65067220They still use them their production is still very low. That can reach most things with their drones anyways
>>65067220yeah they are firing them constantly, they've replaced the old school "cessna with a bomb" long range drones
>>65067410>the old school "cessna with a bomb" long range dronesDidn't we get video of one of those things hitting that oil terminal in the Baltic two weeks ago?
>>65067220cheap drones became more expensive drones
>>65067220Yes, because sometimes a 100kg is not enough explosives for the job. FP-7 enters production next, followed by FP-9.
>>65067220Ziggers managed to hit the factory which slowed things down
>>65067962Proven to be fake
>>65067979Cope
>They don't work, they're not used and also we destroyed them allLol, Russian shills never update the script, do they?
>>65070283Pokrovsk holds
>>65067227What about the Sapsan/Hrim 2 and Palianytsia?
>>65073073Hell what happen to the Trembita?
>>65073079Trembita is almost 100% been confirmed abandoned at this point. During Zelensky's anniversary speech he listed all their drones and missiles and Trembita was conveniently left pit again. It's dead as fuck. Maybe the heat from the pulsejet attracted too much attention from SAMs. At the very least it is having issues reaching mass production compared to the other drone missiles or the infrastructure for making them got bombed pretty hardIgnoring the numerous jet and propeller drones like FP-1 and Liutyi, Ukraine has>Long Neptune>Sapsan>Paliyanytsia>Ruta>Peklo>Bars>FP-5 Flamingo>FP-7 (no name yet)>FP-9 Pelican
>>65067835Is this a drone or a cruise missle
>>65073345All kamikaze drones are missiles. Even FPVs are missiles
>>65073338>Maybe the heat from the pulsejet attracted too much attention from SAMs. Pulsejets are very inefficient unless you build them in a rather specific way, which unfortunately negates the #1 advantage of pulsejets (their simplicity).
>>65067220unless they can produce them cheaper than geran 5 then no its not even a game changer
>>65073073>What about the Sapsan/Hrim 2Issue with getting solid fuel rocket engines into production within the old MIC. There was activity of solving that in Pavlohrad's chemical factory more than a decade ago, but FSB plants within SBU fucked over that with bullshit criminal cases and all that. And now things are harder because of RU missile attacks. AFAIK a stopgap solution is to use the material from retired soviet ICBM engines. P.S: hence why FirePoint chose to get their own process and line for this outside of Ukraine in Denmark for FP-7 and FP-9.
>>65073880You are retarded
>>65073880Different use cases. FP-1 is for saturating air defenses, FP-5 is for big targets.
>>65074175lol>>65074385not at all only an idiot will think that a """""""claimed"""""" 1600km drone is made for saturation attacks
>>65076847You're wrong on both cases. 1. The range doesn't mean shit, it's not an indicator or being used for saturation or not, because AA doesn't just exist on the border. It makes sense to send small drones along with a large missile so that AA is busy trying to shoot down the drones while a missile with a fuck ton warhead hit the factory. Not all targets are soft refinery or fuel bases which can get fucked up by a single or couple drones. 2. A fucking big cruise missile doesn't need to be cheaper than a Sheeit drone, they are different weapons for different use cases. >claimedwe've seen attacks over a thousand klicks into russia, so...
>>65073880Eh, jet Shaheds are slow and frail enough to regularly be intercepted by even cheaper drones. It isn't clear that the FP-5 would be as vulnerable, so that comparison is a bit dubious, even ignoring the obvious payload differences. >>65076847The Ukhtaneftepererabotka Lukoil refinery is the farthest target hit by an FP-1.It is over 1,600 km from Ukraine.
>>65076867>The range doesn't mean shit,ah yes look at all those subtactical cruise missiles with huge ass ranges that acts as dumb drones oh wait said nobody ever
