Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learn because that's just how it is but I'm the kind of annoying retard who wants to know why. Is there a reason to spend an extra $300 on one of these meme guns to learn to shoot when you can get a Walther or a Glock for quite a bit less? I would think it's better to have something that physically feels like and has the approximate dimensions of the gun you're eventually going to get, no? And I've heard the trigger suck and they're not even that accurate so any advantage over a plastic gun is unclear.And btw yes I don't have a gun, wow you busted me, I am utterly humiliated now, my reputation is permanently destroyed how will I ever be able to emigrate to America and marry Pamela Anderson.
>>65070612There's a handgun general. Why not post there?
>>65070615I tried the general and everyone is having a tantrum that I'm asking at all, so might as well just use this one, bumpo.
You learn good shooting habits with a .22 cause you can shoot a lot and it's low recoil. Those are just the best .22 pistols.
>>65070697I'm not questioning the advantages of 22 LR, I'm questioning the advantage of a $700 buck mark that was invented in 1946, vs a $250 P22 that seems to be basically a P99 that shoots cheaper ammo
>>65070612ps://palmettostatearmory.com/ruger-mark-iv-22-45-22-lr-rimfire-pistol-40107.html>wants to learn>looking at the competition modelGet the basic if you are buying your first and learning.Form factor really isn't that big of deal and honestly when your collection grows you may regret having a "lite" version of a gun you later buy in 9mm. >why do I have this .22lr when I have the 9mm?
>>65070688>everyone is having a tantrum that I'm asking at all,Holy shit, retard. You didn't even bother asking there first. >>65070697>You learn good shooting habits with a .22 cause you can shoot a lot and it's low recoil.^This, and NO you don't have to get one first. It really depends on the type of shooting you want to learn/do. Bullseye? Get a .22 first. USPSA? Centerifire.
>>65070688>having a tantrumWHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING, JUST BUY WHAT YOU'RE TOLD! FUCKING NEWBIES!
>>65070710Yes but when I tried to atone for my sin of making a thread that isn't about USA Potassium vs Every Other Cuntry Inferior Potassium it didn't work, so my reddit karma is already in the toilet, so why try to redeem myself now? I'm a huge faggot please look at me.I have no idea what kind of shooting I want to do, but probably not going to be that Turkish olympic meme guy if that's what you mean. I watched an indian shooting coach video where he said you need to practice 40 hours a week to even be at a national level and I don't have time for that with all my 4chan thread making obligations
>>65070716You make a compelling argument but have you considered that I can post a series of loaded questions to get the internet to validate my preconceived idea of what I really want when the first recommendation doesn't seem adequately cool or unique enough?
>>65070612the ruger and browning are made of superior materials and their triggers and accuracy are better
IMHO shooting a .22 makes perfect sense for beginners, but honestly there's no reason to limit yourself to Mk series or a Buckmark these days. That advice is decades old, and it comes from a time when there were few reliable .22 semis out there, and most of them were tiny pocket pistols that were challenging for a beginner to shoot. The Rugers and the Buckmark were (and still are) accurate, reliable, full-size pistols that are well suited to target shooting. IMHO there's nothing wrong with some other .22 like a Glock or a Walther for learning. Personally I think that the Ruger is a better gun for target shooting, no question it is more accurate, so I'd be willing to pay the extra for one but that's easy for me to say because I can afford it. The real point is that .22LR = cheap ammo = more shooting, and that with its low recoil you're less likely to develop bad habits. That applies to any .22 that's not an unreliable piece of junk or some niche pistol that's difficult to shoot. If you want a Glock or a revolver or whatever then that's just fine. I would look for something that's 'full size' or at least close to it. Tiny little pocket pistols are good for concealment but are a bitch to learn on.The advice about "get a shotgun for HD" is similarly dated. It came from a time when semi-auto rifles were rare and expensive while today ARs and the like are widely available and economical.
You sound really insecure. Buy whatever .22 you can get used for like $200 and go practice. Anything is better than wasting your time trying to shield your bruised ego with Borat references on 4chinz.
>>65070706I've found that any .22 pistols with a full slide is generally pretty picky. One thing noguns don't understand is the variance between brands of .22 ammo and how cheap stuff like thunderbolts will barely cycle a repeater without jamming every few rounds. Buckmarks and Rugers are known for eating anything you put in them and being accurate on top cause of the fixed barrel. So you not only get a nice practice pistol, but it can be a good target pistol as you improve. You'll never touch that 22 Glock after you start shooting the 9mm.
>>65070721>not going to be that Turkish olympic meme guy if that's what you mean. I watched an indian shooting coach video where he said you need to practice 40 hours a week to even be at a national levelThat's Bullseye shooting. You are watching a Bullseye shooter give advice on bullseye shooting and wondering why they are telling you to do Bullseye stuff. USPSA is putting two shots into multiple cardboard target arrays while moving (walking) as fast as you can through a course of fire.
>>65070741Cost is a concern otherwise I wouldn't even be considering a 22 but between 12 cents a round for the "good stuff" or 7 cents a round for the crap I don't think the good stuff is going to send me to the homeless shelter. But you're saying they are actually more accurate than a G44 or a P22 like in a way that I will appreciate even when I have a real gun (oh no he said 22 isn't a real gun someone send jaredAF after him!)
>>65070744>or a P22nta but the p22 trigger is mushy and mine didn't work half the time double action (it would fall to half cock). the slide is also made of garbage metal and it broke. I will say that it did feel nice in the hand, albeit small.
>>65070744They're way more accurate, it's a target pistol vs a clone of a defensive handgun. Once you get the G19 the G44 will feel like a cheap toy. I mean the slide is mostly plastic. Ruger and buckmarks are steel frame (with poly frame options) and a fixed barrel. It's a proper purpose built firearm not a cheap imitation of a different gun.
>>65070615>Unironically telling people to go to /hg/ for handgun infoRetard or shitposter, call it.
>>65070612>Everyone says get a Ruger or a Browning to learnI've never heard anyone say this in my life. It also sounds like you conflating manufacturer with caliber? Are you saying you should get a .22 before getting a 9mm? All of the manufacturers you mentioned make guns in both those calibers and more. If you want to learn on a .22 then get whatever one you actually like. If you like your gun you'll be more inclined to actually train with it and get good. The Taurus TX22 is the best modern semi auto tnow imo. Great gun at a phenomenal price (also the only Taurus worth buying so don't let it fool you into buying a 9mm from them later).Having said all that, I think training with a .22 first before getting into a real caliber is gay baby shit. But you do you. It might make more sense if you're just not committed to spending more initially. If that's the deciding factor, then fair enough.
>>65070764Was the slide bottoming out against the compensator or how did you do that?
>>65070818>t. flinchy zoom zoom with no land that shoots less than 100rds a month Disregarded
>>65070825no, that shitty "compensator" never stayed in place anyway and loved to walk forward. it just decided it no longer wanted to live
>>65070706P22 is very picky about ammo and less forgiving about bad shooting habits.
You're all sick people. I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all. I put a curse upon you all. Fuck ya mudda
>>65070837Eat shit thirdie.
