If you're fighting a counter-insurgency against guerillas, who flash in and out of civilian posturing at the drop of a hat, isn't dropping the odd cunt inevitable? If governments have a problem with this shouldn't they, instead of prosecuting their own soldiers, not get involved in such wars?
>>65072913Expecting your soldiers to behave like professionals and not cannibal niggers is a western mindset. You wouldn't get it.
>>65072913>If you're fighting a counter-insurgency against guerillasThe way you win is how the British defeated the Boers. Round them up and starve them out. Scour the damn countryside until everyone capable of fighting back is either dead or in one of the concentration camps. They call that "Genocide" these days, though. >not get involved in such wars?Don't start a war is the first rule of foreign policy. Unfortunately, that's not a policy choice available to Israel's most loyal golem.
>>65072913The primary means of defeating insurgents is through infiltrators and garrison forces. Guerrilla forces are to be cut off and defeated through conventional means. Utilizing the local elites working for you to bring order.Afghanistan and most other western adventures into COIN fail because:>There are no strategic objectives>Poor to nonexistent integration of local elites>No elites mean no HUMINT which means no ability to figure out whos a civvie and whos an insurgent>Ideologically led thinking that instituting democracy will magically manifest stability when the role of the COIN/sponsor should be that of a dictator reigning in the elites who are willing to cooperate and destroying and replacing the ones that don't>Thinking that setting up a platoon sized combat outpost and conducting presence patrols where soldiers hand out MRE's and water bottles will get people on your sideYou only butcher the populace when you're an empire looking to colonize a new region or when you have royally fucked up the COIN operation but you also have to still win. tl;dr it's not about being more violent for the sake of violence, it's about not being an ideologically delusional retard and understanding the realities of what COIN and warfare and general are.
Reminder, literally all the dude had to do was shut the fuck up, and he would've gotten off scot free. The media storm passed, and nobody cared anymore until he tried to sue the news groups that'd covered the story years ago.
>>65073037Yep, yappy cunt
>>65072913someone stupid enough to videotape themselves doing crimes should be charged regardless of opinion on the validity of the law. just too god damn dumb to go free.
>>65072913Absolutely. But discretion is crucial, because even if you or I know and understand that the unarmed faggot with the radio who suspiciously hangs out by the road to the FOB is the one coordinating attacks on your patrols, factually your average joe does not see the distinction or nuance and for you to take the snitch out would in his eyes be a callous and indefensible act of murder. So you should approach it as the imprisonable crime which it is. That is to say, you don't kill him right in front of foreign pilots who don't necessarily know the score, you don't take gopro or you switch it off beforehand, you don't mention it in AARs or if you do you say they were armed, you don't make any mention of it in books or on podcasts; and if it ever comes up you deny everything. The British army had an unwritten shoot on sight policy towards locals in Basra carrying phones and nobody ever got charged, because everybody had the good sense to keep their fucking mouths shut; something apparently lost on the Australians.
>>65072913oh shit! this is the first time I see the clear version. typically the executioner's head is blurred out.
>>65073019The best way to defeat insurgents is to not be such a massive cunt that the population tolerates an insurgency. The gap between popular expectations and authority's demands has to be small enough that nobody rational is willing to risk everything to try and fix it with violence. This is the only moral answer.
>>65073093That implies legitimacy of government comes from the people. History says otherwise. Ideally they like you more than the insurgents, but even if they don't, it doesn't matter. Elites are what matter because elites are the ones with power. You can say the same thing about the mafia. A lot of people were terrorized by the mafia, did that stop the mafia? No, why? Because the mafia had power.This nation as an example was not founded on some bullshit liberalism concept of by the people for the people. That was the rational afterthought to make the reality seem prettier. This country was founded by men willing to commit violence and had the power to do so and usurped the ones in control.
a lil cringe to make the same thread on two different boards, an hour apart.
>>65072998>Don't start a war is the first rule of foreign policy>foreign policy never failsBoohoo.
>>65072913MaybeBut as anons above said, he talked too much about it so he had to be made an example of>>65073019>it's about not being an ideologically delusional retardThe people attempting COIN these days can't even build their own nations nondysfunctionally let alone other people's nations
>>65073093Imbecile.
>>65072913Accidentally clapping a civi happens, executing kids on the ground them dropping radios on their body to claim they were spotters is not the same.I'm an aussie and want to see these cunts in prison 6 years ago instead of the lawyer that reported on it.>treat POWs well>get lots of surrenders>take less casualties >have to fight less>execute civilians>the whole world finds out>ScoMo government says it's fine>no one would ever surrender to us>we take more casualties>we have to fight moreHave a meme I saved 6 years ago.
>>65073019Video game logic. Do this then that happens. Expecting everything to fall neatly into place.
>>65073363>Accidentally clapping a civi happens, executing kids on the ground them dropping radios on their body to claim they were spotters is not the same.You can't control the narrative. Everything you do is regarded deliberate and turns the populace against you.
>>65073363Have you considered that maybe it's because of sissy homosexuals like you that we lost the war?
>>65073376You might want to be a nation that acts like thridies, I would rather not.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-15/sas-soldiers-allegedly-plant-gun-on-dead-bodies-in-afghanistan/12452964>>65073382Has bombing schoolgirls opened the strait?
>>65073385If Trump was in control of the army during Afghan war he would have won the war in 2 years because he's not a sentimental faggot like a guy like you is. The White race has way too many queers
>>65073382NTA but we owe it to ourselves to be better than our enemies.
>>65072998The boers were like two families with a shotgun
>>65073389>TACO Trump>winning anything taking more than a few weeksNTA but lmao come on son
>>65073392We weren't better than our enemies. They literally won the war. Taliban controls the country?????
>>65073394He would have won because he's a psychopath and we need guys like that in control. Not retarded SJWs like you
>>65073382soviets bombed the shit out of Afghanistan, did a few massacres and still lost so that obviously doesn't work retard
>>65073373I believe scientists call that cause and effect anon.
>>65072998>The way you win is how the British defeated the BoersGuerillas require foreign aid or major enemy weakness to succeed. The Boer area was isolated from foreign aid and the British occupiers were not weak, boasting a ridiculous manpower advantage. Scorched earth was entirely unnecessary, especially to the maximal extent seen there. Entirely avoidable excess of questionable worth.
>>65072913I know it's real, but that gun looks so much like something AI made.
>>65073382Squad Designated Sissy (SDS) when?
>>65073389Trump was in charge for more than 2 years and he surrendered to the Taliban.
>>65073398He had his chance from 2016-2020 when he was in charge of the war and instead gave the country to the Taliban in secret negotiations instead. Weird.
>>65073426>>65073434Fuuuuck I remember that, he actually had leaders of the Taliban invited to camp David, a few months before handover to Biden admin. What a fucking loser.Then when the pullout went rough because no planning had been done and Biden made the stupid call to follow Trump's retarded timeline instead of pushing it back, they caught the flack instead of Trump lol.
>>65073422I don't remember Ella vid where he looked like that. Sauce?
>>65072992Expecting human beings to act like perfect robots in any situation, let alone conflict, is an idiotic delusion meant solely for the masses. It's a thin veneer; an artificial facade meant to enable compliance in the unthinking masses, not an attainable ideal that's pragmatic or useful on a societal level. Instead of setting realistic expectations, understanding the limits of your of capabilities, abating consequences, and achieving the best possible outcome, you fall victim to the the very emotions you imagine that you're capable of transcending. Even now, I do the same. The difference is, my folly does not degrade the Western psychosocial paradigm. But by all means, join the Communists in their identical fantasy that sterile ideals are worthy of aspiration.Cute picture. You'd make a successful politician.
>>65073576Not him, but>Expecting human beings to act like perfect robots in any situation, let alone conflict, is an idiotic delusionYeah that's alrightLots of things are missed out by the systemThat's the "bye" that people get, which you describe hereThe real problem is this stupid cunt bragged about it for yearsWhich is tantamount to making the same mistake over and over and over again
>>65073576>immediate bad-faith hyperboleStopped reading after the first sentence. Like I said, you just don't get it.
>>65073418If it had helped save ONE British life, it was worth it.
>>65073576>Expecting human beings to act like perfect robots in any situation, let alone conflict, is an idiotic delusion meant solely for the masses.No one does. It's why we have an entire system of imposed discipline in militaries, right up to having an entirely separate class of serviceman whose principle function at junior ranks is to be ethically and intellectually separate from those they command to enable them to recognise and intercede to prevent the ethical deviance and degeneracy that will inevitably happen in war if left unchecked.But those checks were all subverted in this instance. I have said since day one that the people responsible for allowing all of the safeguards to be subverted should have faced responsibility for what happened as a result, and that it calls into question the ethical fitness of pretty much every officer who served in the regiment for many years either side of the alleged events. By absolutely no later than 2009 it was common knowledge that ORs were running selection to keep out of the regiment any officers that would actually hold them accountable in any way, and I assume it was well known before then as well. By 2011 at the latest it was reasonably common knowledge in, at the very least, everywhere even vaguely adjacent to SF that Ben Roberts-Smith was a titanic thundercunt and a loose cannon, but crucially, that other titanic thundercunt of the period, LTGEN David Morrison practically attached himself at the hip to BRS and the two literally toured around the Army endorsing each other. Well before all of that it was known that SASR was super duper incestuous and that, even compared to 1CDO, 2CDO and IRR (as it was called in the bad old days) NCOs and WOs weren't posting in the way that military units need them to if you want Big Army to have any kind of influence on regimental culture.I cannot possibly emphasise just how much the entire thing was not a surprise at all to anyone who had any dealings with SF outside of a HQ.
>>65073653>that other titanic thundercunt of the period, LTGEN David MorrisonAnd can I just take this moment to throw one final piece of shade on the career of this absolute careerist piece of shit.The standard you walk past is the standard you accept, and you, you absolute motherfucker, were so busy lecturing the Army on the tenets of postmodern morality and trying to stamp out any holdouts of regimental culture, that you spent every day of your worthless fucking tenure walking past a slew of war crimes. Your successors had to unfuck everything you did, proximately to this conversation finding the literal fucking atrocities committed while you were responsible for the Army, but much of the damage will prove permanent.You are and always were a monumental sack of shit, and I sincerely wish a court could pretend you were CJOPs and grow a spine long enough to Yamashita you into gaol.
>>65073679>proximately*proximateHoly fuck that man makes me so angry these days, it's unreal. Like, the more time that passes, the less reasonable everything about his tenure becomes and the fewer excuses you can find for him. It's just insane what a sack he turned out to be.
>>65073653>>65073679Where can I find more details about this?
>>65073790>>65073790>Well before all of that it was known that SASR was super duper incestuous and that, even compared to 1CDO, 2CDO and IRR (as it was called in the bad old days) NCOs and WOs weren't posting in the way that military units need them to if you want Big Army to have any kind of influence on regimental culture.Just to clarify, it's this part I don't understand, can you explain a bit further?
>>65073790>>65073792One of the reasons that armies post anyone with rank in and out of units on a frequent basis is so that units don't develop their own culture, norms and practices that deviate too much from what everyone else does. If all the NCOs, WOs and Officers spend more than half the time posted elsewhere, then there's going to be a lot of elsewhere's ideas and culture being mixed into the unit on a continuous basis. The rate that NCOs and WOs were posting out of SASR was too low for that to be happening, and the effect was that Army didn't really have much of a stake in how the unit's culture evolved over time. On paper, officer postings were filling that role, but in practice, based on my understanding, officers had very little influence over much of anything in SASR and were really kept on a leash, having been selected partly for the ability to be leashed to begin with and then given a career structure where precisely that preponderance of external postings would mean they'd never have the internal credibility necessary to be a dominant hand on the tiller of unit culture and trying would just see their career ended.Basically, SASR was every OR's fantasy about a unit that was run by a CPL and SGT mafia where officers have no say and where you could tell DSCMA to fuck themselves when they tried to post you out of the unit if you wanted to. A unit where NCOs would never post out of their incestuous playground and where officers and support staff literally couldn't be posted in without being hand selected by those same NCOs. A unit that even in peacetime was 3000km from the nearest headquarters and had no supporting or peer elements that didn't effectively answer directly to them.Oher SOCOMD units even in that period (high op tempo put a lot of pressure on SF manning) were still posting NCOs out, and did more stuff with SFTC etc. So when something in 2CDO started to go off the rails it was spotted pretty quickly and put back on. Not so SASR.
>>65073790>Where can I find more details about this?And short of being in the Army in the period, the Brereton Report. Idk if it's publicly available, but there's also the report that Crompvoets did on SF culture for Campbell and Sengelman (notably both SASR officers from a time before the unit went off the rails).
>>65074092Sounds similar to what was happening with the SEALS at the same time. I think the root of the problem is they took special forces and turned them into full time death squads without fully understand what the effect was going to be on the men in those units. And by "them" I mean Stanley McChrystal and David Petraeus and Michael Flynn. And there's growing evidence that Flynn ay least was just literally just a religious psycho who could only get erections by reading reports of his troops killing muslims,
>>65073385>Has bombing schoolgirls opened the strait?No, but it made me feel better so it improved something. Also why are Muslims mad we stopped women from learning how to read? Don't they know that if they get literate they start asking for rights?
>>65073653>>65073679Not to be a dickhead, but Aussies referring to their 25,000 man force as Big Army is pretty funny. My friend, your entire Big Army wouldn't fill up a quarter of the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
>>65074724We'll be sure to follow the internationally recognised metric of MCG seating capacity in future deployments
>>6507291399.99% of civilian kills don't get prosecuted because there's some sort of plausible deniability, you only get charged for blatant chimp outs.
>>65072992fpbp
>>65073576>soldiers can only either be chimps or robotsstarting to see why your 3 day special military operation has entered year 5, ivan
You need to understand that dropping this cunt wasn't the problem. It was quite alright, in fact.The problem was that he said it on camera and some shitlord got hold of the footage and sent it to a news outlet. Historically, the number of cunts who have been dropped is literally immeasurable but taking video cameras on operations is a relatively new thing.
>>65075128He also did the equivalent on complaining to the police that your drug dealer scammed you by trying to sue over the news coverage years later until the government was gay and retarded enough to decide to make an example of him.
>>65072992Western militaries are so strict on stuff like this because they know their troops would start acting like cannibal niggers the instant they thought they could get away with it
>>65075163It's almost like the government just used him to do their dirty work and then tossed him in the gutter when he stopped serving their interests. >Yvan Eht Nioj.
>>65075165As a volunteer force a lot of people would leave the military if it was full of rapists and murderers.
>>65074383Maybe the Americans didn't, but we knew. It's like I said, militaries (at least Commonwealth ones) are structured to contain it and correct it because it's inevitable. The problem is that SASR had removed itself from that structure, and then restructured itself internally, and told everyone it was so special that everything would be a ok. SEALs probably did have the same issue of absent control structures because no infantryisms were to be seem.>>65074406>Big Army is pretty funnyNah yeah you're right.
>>65075301>Nah yeah you're right.Meant for >>65074724
>>65075289murdering people is the military's job, and it is full of rapistsdo you think they make everyone watch the rape is bad powerpoints just because?
>>65072913>isn't dropping the odd cunt inevitable?Yes. A civilian that ignores escalation of force and appears to be a threat is a good shoot.Car behind convoy, convoy uses the green laser to get back. Car ignores and accelerates towards convoy. It can be a good shoot.Cop tells suspect to stop and raise hands, suspect grabs their phone and wallet from their pocket and enthusiastically offers their identification to the cop. In the moment the threat can appear credible. The legal standard is all the information available as perceived by the officer at the time of force used.
>>65075598Yes, this definitely applies to what we're talking about, an unarmed teenager lying on the ground who has been mauled and is still held by an attack dog, detained by a man standing on his chest with a rifle pointed at his head, who then asks someone under no pressure at all if he should execute him and is told to go for it, so shoots him three times in the head and plants prepared fake evidence on him to make him seem like a combatant, all as part of long term conspiracy by a group of sick puppies to turn their tours into Afghanistan into human-hunting-safaris.The lengths that people will go to just to make vague excuses for what is objectively the most obviously and absurdly heinous shit ever are comical. Like, no, none of this is "Innocent mistake under pressure, he ignored escalations, seemed shady and reached into a pocket", it's "Lets have ritual murders of people we know are innocent where we force the new guy to execute someone so he's bound to our conspiracy by the atrocity and then cover it up, then head back to the back and drink beer out of the prosthetic leg we looted off an old cripple we executed by handcuffing him and throwing him off a cliff" shit. Anyone who ponies up to make excuses for this stuff is just making an utter fool of themselves.>>65075571Murder isn't in the job description. Killing is. They're not the same thing and shouldn't be conflated.
>>65072913>Do you want me to drink from this cunt?
>>65075655Pedantic fag. War is killing and rape, always has been. They're called INFANTry because the minute they aren't watched like a toddler they can't be trusted to not murderhobo the rest of the campaign.
>>65073019Fucking cherry ass slick sleeved faggot. You have no idea what went wrong in Afghanistan. You can’t turn the populace against the Taliban because they simply don’t care. You roll into some dirt poor village in the mountains with the red beards and say you’re there to fight Taliban. They say okay what can you give me? Would you like to stay for dinner so I can show I’m not trying to kill you? And the answer is always nothing because it’s a dirt poor worthless hamlet of no real importance in fuck off mountains not worth the cost of building them a road or a school. Then the Taliban sneak across the paki border with their foreign fighters (we killed pakis and Chechens on the fucking reg) and threaten to kill them if they don’t hide them and feed them to which they shrug and comply. Then we take fire from the hamlet. Sweep it. Kill a few faggots in fatigues and New Balances. And they invite you to stay for dinner. It is a perpetual cycle played out since Vietnam. We kill the fuck out of the enemy and then they just hide behind the line we’re not allowed to cross and send in meat waves of unimportant retards to die so they can say they’re still in the game. It’s fucking political bullshit. You want to defeat “insurgencies”? You stop giving them a fucking place to hide. You say fuck it were torching the Ho Chi Minh Trail and fuck anyone who says shit about it. You run massive bombing campaigns in Pakistani villages where contrary to popular belief the nuclear armed state we sell weapons to doesn’t particularly fucking care about some tribal hicks in the fucking mountains. Fuck the Geneva Convention. Fuck politicians. Fuck every border that isn’t ours. That’s how you fucking win in Afghanistan.
>>65073037You're thinking of Ben Roberts-Smith.Dude in OP's pic is some other goon named Oliver Schulz>He has plead not guilty
>>65073382Uruzgan province, where these guys were acting like fuckwits, surrendered to the Taliban by phone.Not a shot fired. The Afghans neither knew nor cared what we had to offer them, and no amount of debasing themselves changed this.These freaks belong in cells.
>>65072913No.BRS was an animal killing people for fun because he liked it.
>>65074137>the Brereton Report. Idk if it's publicly available,https://www.defence.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-10/IGADF-Afghanistan-Inquiry-Public-Release-Version.pdf
>>65076276Maybe they surrendered by phone because some cunts went round murdering people the locals knew were not involved with the Taliban so they were receptive to the Taliban's message >>65076129Go away Robert, your entire platoon turned you in for being an ugly freaky weirdo
>>65076295Anon, do you know how to parse full stops?>. Idk if it's publicly available, but there's also the report that Crompvoets did on SF culture...
>>65074852Don't get snippy, cunt. USAF AMC could airlift the entire Australian Bog Army with one trip.
>>65075165>People talk of their enlisting from their fine military feeling — all stuff — no such thing.>Some of our men enlist from having got bastard children, some for minor offences, many more for drink;>But you can hardly conceive such a set brought together, and it really is wonderful that we should have made them the fine fellows they are.>I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me
>>65076306>MaybeNo. They simply don't care. Whatever happens tomorrow is not important to them.
>>65076390If that's true why did they fight an insurgency for 20 years?
>>65076393You mean Taliban? Money, drugs and shitslamic delusions.
I don't know why retards always think that just one more massacre will stop thr guerrillas. Just fucking don't act like niggers and treat the locals well, it's that simple. French marshal Suchet's part of occupied Spain didn't really have an insurgency since he forbade his troops from mistreating the locals and respected local Spanish customs. Whenever guerrillas tried something he was easily able to defeat them since the locals weren't interested in helping the guerrillas. Meanwhile in the rest of Spain the French were exterminating entire villages while their troops were flayed and burned alive when captured. Suchet only left Spain when his fellow marshals were driven into France, he himself defeated several Anglo-Spanish armies sent against him. When he died of old age the locals in the areas administered by him even held wakes to honor his memory.
>>65076401>locals in a country you occupied hold a wake for youEvery commander needs to have this shit drilled into them, this is what winning hearts and minds actually looks like and the result is victory where it's applied.
>>65072913Read up on the Malayan Emergency. 90% of the Chinese in Malaya rebelled and supported the Communist guerillas. These guerillas hid in the jungles and received aid from Chinese shanty towns and farming villages on the outskirts of the jungles.So what did the Brits do? They forcibly removed the chinese settlers to fenced "New Villages", essentially concentration camps. BUT, this time, they gave them modern houses, sewerage system, clean piped water, electricity and food rations. The last one, was ingenious. The food rations were clearly marked, so if they fell into the communists hands, then it can be traced. Giving these relative luxury to the Chinese, made them stop supporting the communist guerillas. Hence, the "Hearts and Minds" strategy was coined. It worked. There was even an amnesty to communist guerillas if they peacefully surrendered.
>>65076326With or without the MCG though?
This is OP of course, making their daily war-crimes thread.
>>65076401>>65076408I mean, that's all well and good but the thing was Suchet was an early practitioner or hearts and minds, fighting people who hadn't fleshed out guerilla tactics and theory yet, they were just pissed off at the French being cunts.A modern day counter insurgency needs to deal with the fact that the guerillas are aware of his playbook and will do whatever they can to subvert itYou build a power plant - they blow it upYou create a police force - they infiltrate itYou manage to identify and win over a respected local to your cause - they murder himYou protect a respected local - this isolates him from the population and respect declinesYou control your soldiers - the insurgent does whatever they can to provoke them against the population, sniping from within crowds, suicide bombing them while they try to hand out sweets to kids etc.
>>65076401You're just retarded and have no idea how war works. If Napoleon just told his generals to massacre the Spanish harder then the Iberian peninsula would've been easy peasy and occupied in months.
>>65073019Doesn't traditional siege warfare also work against guerillas? By securing all basic necessities like food and water, you can force the local presence into compliance over pain of starvation, even if it isn't fast or fancy.Though, it of course requires you blockade the enemy by attacking any of their trade partner's caravans, which can get... Politically dicey.
>>65076491Well no, the issue with let's say Iraq or Afghanistan was that America left governance to corrupt natives and then spent billions blowing up random weddings or cars. Natives don't give a fuck if you built a well when you blew up half his extended family at a wedding. Shit, I read an article about the Taliban making fun of a local that convinced people to support the Americans and then his entire family was blown up by a hellstrike missile since their car was "suspicious". Suchet personally administered his territories and oversaw the troops. He didn't hand over everything to the spooks and corrupt strongmen while he blew up carts at random with batteries of cannon.But Suchet is an outlier, all the other marshals stationed in Spain ruined their reputations with defeats and growing insurgencies, Suchet earned his marshal's baton in Spain.>>65076506Fuck off Massena.
>>65075571>>65075655Technically speaking not even killing is in a soldier's job description, just taking and holding ground, which often requires killing to do with current technology.
>>65073093>The best way to defeat insurgents is to not be such a massive cunt that the population tolerates an insurgency. The British raped the entire India and most of Africa and yet they couldn't fought back and eventually had to wait for the British to leave. The American were nice enough to the Vietnamese, North Korean and Iraq, but these cunts love to exploit this and keep attacking. When the Yank said "fuck it, I will rape you", they will cry to the international stage to gain some sympathy.
>>65076401They don't care about stopping the guerrillas, they just want to do a little massacre.
>>65076627Brown fingers wrote this
>>65076522Maybe that's true if you are in an omegacuck army that has never known the objectively correct way of doing Army things (ie the Commonwealth military tradition).>The role of Infantry is to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture them, to seize and hold ground, and to repel attack, by day or night, regardless of season, weather or terrain.
It was originally a shit fight between unit members who all wanted glory and tried to get each other court martialed. The army covered it all up because they couldn't imprison men who had run black ops for oligarchs in Australia, the men now discharged tried to run back to the oligarchs and run for politics, having avoided the hague only months before, at which point the media, under order of the oligarchs, tried to have the men pilloried. There were no less than four miscarriages of justice in a row as the oligarchs tried to sue each other's men, then the courts got sick of this and layed criminal charges against serving military personele which is totally unconstitutional, a doubly jeopardy issue where men had already been tried for the same offence by military tribunal, and where the courts had no territorial jurisdiction, and the plaintiff had no right to lay charges. Then the army took the extraordinary measure of striping a whole regiment (?) Of honours for war crimes individual units had only just been cleared of, leading to a revolt in the ranks.So now we have the situation where a Victoria Cross winner, guilty of war crimes, cleared of war crimes, perjured, mistrialed in two miscarriages of justice is mistrialed a third time in an unconstitutional criminal case, on the orders of a jilted former comrade who's now an opposition party figure, and two Australian oligarchs, two newspapers, and the talibans. Feel free to correct me on the details here but basically it's just onion layers of fucked up and should never have seen the light of day.
>>65076729Absolute schizopost hours.
>>65076627Britian didn't rape all of India and Africa though; the main enforcers of the Raj were themselves Indians who would rather live with the benefits of civilization over the caste system, even if it meant making an example of their neighbors.
>>65075655>an unarmed teenager lying on the ground who has been mauled and is still held by an attack dog, detained by a man standing on his chest with a rifle pointed at his head, who then asks someone under no pressure at all if he should execute him and is told to go for it, so shoots him three times in the head and plants prepared fake evidence on him to make him seem like a combatant, all as part of long term conspiracy by a group of sick puppies to turn their tours into Afghanistan into human-hunting-safaris.So you are saying accidents never happen and whenever a civilian is killed it is because the soldiers are just bloodthirsty killers?
>>65072992>serve in western military>they crucify you for itjust another reason to never enlist if you live in the west
>>65077108You are frustratingly retarded and I'm not even the Anon you are responding too.No he was clearly not saying that. He was saying that a specific incident, that was fully filmed from start to finish and happened exactly how he said it did, verifiably, is not an example of an ambiguous shitty and tragic situation that you can give the benefit of the doubt to the soldiers during the chaos of war. Jesus Christ, you have to be trolling me.
