>Uses 7.92 MauserDid serbjeets really think they were WW2 Germans or something
>>65073380You fucking KNOW this was always .30-06's job.
>>65073380I believe they had both a large stockpile of it and the tooling to make more.
>>65073380They had stocks of Mauser Kar98k and Mg42 left after WWII so they naturally started to make ammo for them and after made rifle in rifle caliber they had.
I don't fucking care.DMR was a .30-06's dream role that never happened.Militarized COLONEL FUCKIN JEFF COOPER scout rifles.I am the king shit of 6-800 yards. AK action shoved into a SVD's asshole. LOVING THIS LIFE.I'm ahave me a root beer!
You start talking logistics and parts wear I will conclude your sexual orien-genderism.THIRTY ODD SIX SHOULD NOT DIE.
>>65073380No because they were already using 8mm Mauser. Try doing research before posting you stupid shit.
>>65073380>M76>Did the Serbs think they were like Germans or something?>M53 waltzing right on throughThey had lots of cool shit if you were able to buy them between 2003 and 2015. They were cheap as shit during that time and all the way up until 2020 they were still cheap. Sucks if you missed out and didn't get a M76 or any of the easy build M53 kits.
>>65073405They had so much 8mm Mauser from all over. They had stockpiles of it and got lots of German factories as war reperations. It's how the were able to make the MG42 domestically and lots of Mausers as well as 8mm Mauser. They had lots of WW2 surplus, ability to make new, and their doctrine was not to rely on USSR or NATO so had massive stockpiles of WW2, NATO, and Soviet calibers or weapons able to use those calibers. It's why their SKS can shoot NATO rifle grenades.Didn't make sense for them to use a dead 30-06 when NATO had already switched to 7.62 NATO. They already got free German tech, Soviets were giving out their tech for cheap, and they could just copy Soviet or NATO small arms when they wanted. They weren't even licensed to build AKs. It's why their AKs are all sorts of funky.
>>65073391>30-06 dead caliber after 7.62 NATO>Things in 8mm Mauser easily switch to 7.62 NATO>Things in 30-06 switch to 7.62 NATO tend to go boom if not over engineered to not shit all over themselvesMaybe because they didn't buy into fudd lore?
>>65073380Yugoslavia was politically and militarily somewhere between the East and West, which is why they had both weapons and vehicles from both.The nation as it was back then was forged in the flames of WW2, and the group which came out on top were a socialist kind based in Serbia. They had fought with all kinds of arms, and what they had decided to standardize on at the time as their main rifle cartridge was 7.92x57mm Mauser, and this happened before 7.62x51mm NATO was even a thing.>>650733917.92mm Mauser and .30-06 Springfield are rather functionally close, to the point that you could convert one case to load for the other.>>65073657>Things in 8mm Mauser easily switch to 7.62 NATO>Things in 30-06 switch to 7.62 NATO tend to go boom if not over engineered to not shit all over themselvesThe latter isn't really true, M2 Ball is extremely similar to 7.62mm NATO, which is why you can just rebarrel an M1 Garand rifle to the new cartridge, add in a plastic spacer in the magazine, and it'll work, you can even use the original .30-06 en-bloc clips, the NATO cartridge fits and feeds in them.For some oddball examples, the Norwegians had K98ks as war reparations, and converted a few thousand of them to both .30-06 and 7.62mm NATO, and down in Brazil, police are still today rocking old Madsen LMGs converted from 7mm Mauser to 7.62mm NATO.
>>65073380They were using 8x57 post WWI and just stuck with it until the breakup of Yugoslavia since they weren't part of NATO or the Warsaw Pact after WWII. Nearly half of Europe standardized on 8x57 after WWI due to the prevalence of Mausers as service rifles.
>>65073846>Norwegian K98sOh no, it wasn't just K98s, those fuckers converted fucking MG34s into .30-06 from 8mm and THEN into 7.62x51.Norway was in fact so peak during the cold war that they were running around effectively in US WW2 gear slightly done up with German guns converted to NATO cartridges alongside M1 Garands, G3 and M1 Carbines.
>>65074067It's hard to see but the Norwegian camo jacket is basically just an M55 jacket with camo fabric. Their webbing gear was largely American hand me downs as well iirc. I think it just had new magazine pouches for G3s later.Anyway, Yugoslavia was using 8mm Mauser for obvious reasons, not wanting to be too close to Soviets and having shit loads of old German tooling.
>>65073631>Not owning a m76There's only like 3 anons that own one. Some reason think we all also have m53 or mg42 too.
>>65073536>never happened.sorta happened
Is this the big boy caliber AK thread?
>>65074153Ok then never got justice.
Yugoslavia adopted the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge in 1928 and had either bought, made, or inherited about 1,300,000 Mauser rifles in that caliber by 1941 when Germany invaded. The German defeat left Yugoslavia with probably as many ex-German rifles as theGermans had captured/looted during their occupation and manufacture of new rifles recommenced in 1948 alongside refurbishment of old rifles, and would continue until 1965. They also copied the German MG42 as their standard GPMG so It makes perfect sense that they would use 8x57 as a DMR cartridge.
If NATO hadn't happened the WEU would have adopted .280 British as a standard infantry cartridge and 8x57 for machine guns.
>>65074266Thank god it did, .280 is a dogshit intermediate cartridge entirely inferior to 5.56x45mm
>>65073380I missed the boat on the Century builds and I am SO mad about it. I remember seeing them for like $799 and thinking they were too much.
>>65074291The Garand and all subsequent service rifles should have been in .276 Pedersen. Fite me.
>>65074299Don't feel too bad. I was aware of Bitcoin when it was $5 and I thought it was retarded.
>>65074469Literally wasn't an economically or logistically viable notion at the time it was on the table, Douggie was right.
>>65074471You would have sold it for $11 and bought a ps4 or something
>>65074484It wasn't the right choice given what was known or expected in the interwar period, but in retrospect it definitely would have been the right choice.
>>65074501desu I'm still not sold on sub-.30 caliber for roles like GPMGs and DMRs
>>65074499Fuck nah. I'm still holding my garlic coin.
>>65073380They had a lot of it.
>>65073380Yugoslavia got a shitload of german weapons manufacturing tools as reparations after WWII.
>>65073380>>65073446Yugoslavia had been using 8mm Mauser as their standard heavy rifle cartridge since 1924, well before WW2.Of course they captured, scrubbed and re-issued German K98s and MG42s as well, producing them afterwards as M53 machine guns. It is kind of a wonder that they even bothered supplementing it with a PKM variant (M84) in 7.62x54mmR.>>65073536There is not enough difference between 30.06 and 8mm to matter.
>>65073380Newfag
>>65073536>DMR>30.06lmao
>>65074125I was about to buy one but the dude I was stalking for an NDM86 sweetened the deal.
The Mauser was a particularly good cartridge for its time and as a non nato county the Serbs were tooled up for it. Stay stronk serpeski
>>65076425You CAN, it'll work as well as 7.92mm Mauser or 7.62mm NATO, it's just there's no reason to unless it's the early 1950s and you're standardizing on the cartridge based on U.S Military handouts.
>>65076469It was a rather good cartridge for its time, yeah. The 1903 Springfield rifle and .30-06 Springfield cartridge were both explicitly devised to make something which would be very similar to the Spanish Mauser and cartridge that the American military had faced earlier.7.62x51mm NATO then being a shortened but ballistically extremely similar successor for .30-06 essentially makes the NATO cartridge a descendant of the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge.
>>65073380>Be Tito>Stalin is being a little bitch so you get cut off by The East>The West is so so with you>Have to homebrew your own weapons>Do based shit like this
>>65076876>essentially makes the NATO cartridge a descendant of the 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge.it's convergent evolution if anything
