Why does the f35 not have a weapons officer?.It has far more shit to keep track off than a f15
>>65073443f15 doesnt need it either its mostly a matter of very old 1970s technological limitations that made the double seater variants early. every weapon and system used by a fighter jet can be UX/UI designed around a single pilot
When the F-15 entered service in 1976 operating and interpreting the radar was a full time job, fast forward 39 years and both hardware and software are a lot better.
>>65073443S E N S O RF U S I O N
>>65073443The backseater has been outsourced to a minimum wage jamboy working remotely, like we do.
>>65073478>f15 doesnt need it either its mostly a matter of very old 1970s technological limitations that made the double seater variants early. every weapon and system used by a fighter jet can be UX/UI designed around a single pilotAbsolutely bullshit. F15E has a second seat specifically because a pilot can't throw an aircraft around while looking for ground targets etc through a pod. That's not a UX or UI problem, it's a cognition limit. You can't be scanning the sky and scanning the ground at the same time, they're two totally different situations that one aircraft of a given mission role needs to be aware of. I, frankly, seriously doubt that F35 actually does it well enough. As an F16 multirole replacement, it's fantastic, but I think it's very reasonable to have doubts about crew load in more demanding strike or CAS scenarios that have traditionally been done with two seaters or slower aircraft who have more visibility and specialised training.>>65073494>When the F-15 entered service in 1976 operating and interpreting the radar was a full time job, fast forward 39 years and both hardware and software are a lot better.>1976>f15>two seats>radarF15 only had 2 seats for the trainer variant and the later strike variant. Radar has NOTHING to do with it.
>>65073583> You can't be scanning the sky and scanning the ground at the same timeSee, that’s the neat part about sensor fusion.You don’t have to do either.
>>65073583>a pilot can't throw an aircraft around while looking for ground targets etc through a pod.he can and they do on modern planes
>>65073587>that’s the neat part about sensor fusion.>You don’t have to do either.It's this week's episode of "Manlet flyboy pretends he doesn't need to actually find targets on the ground or differentiate between close friendlies and enemies in a dynamic and messy fight on the ground because technology will totally do it for him this time around."The neat part is actually that we've heard all these lies from air power theorists continuously since before the Air Force even existed, and any time the entire war wasn't in a flat featureless desert against a regular and totally unconcealed military, reality tattled on you.
>>65073594God, I hope the next war is in a jungle just to shut faggots like you up for another 20 years.
>>65073583>I, frankly, seriously doubt that F35 actually does it well enoughit doesthe F-15E was built FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO, anonbefore fucking Windows 3.1a lot has moved on since then
>>65073567SAAR do not decline the datalink request
>>65073583>a pilot can't throw an aircraft around while looking for>targets etc>That's not a UX or UI problem, it's a cognition limit.>I think it's very reasonable to have doubts about crew load in more demanding>scenarios that have traditionally been done with two seaters or slower aircraft who have more visibility and specialised training
>>65073601Yes. Not my problem you're retarded and stuck in 1970.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHZO0T5mDYUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPNS4hEE_pkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhc4y1jPwkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oyCzT6sB_4https://defence-industry.eu/lockheed-martin-demonstrates-ai-enabled-radar-technology-for-enhanced-maritime-surveillance/https://www.defensedaily.com/lockheed-martin-part-of-iceye-consortium-to-provide-atr-for-f-35/advanced-transformational-technology/
>>65073443F-35 has more automation. They never said how but I'm guessing there's an advanced autopilot and missile targeting macros.
>>65073716>They never said how21st century CAS tech already obviated the backseater role, that's why nobody bothered with a WSO for the Super Hornet, Typhoon and Rafalein essence, we have excellent FIND-fire-and-forget anti-surface target capability, vidrelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoGKPMmdGDkthe F-15E was built at a time when the WSO still had to look at a TV screen to find the target, put a laser marker on it, and then make sure aircraft manoeuvres don't throw the dot off-coursewith modern targeting pods and smart weapons, not only is it more difficult to throw the sight off-course (permitting more freedom of manoeuvre), each device is also more like a missile that can remember its previous target and find it againand what the F-35 has is maybe 2nd or 3rd gen past that; i.e. not just presented to a single pilot-operator, but also cleaned up and displayed on the HUD along with multiple sensors, like a video gamethis is a big difference because pilots have complained about having to juggle multiple screens in combat
>>65073672I know you believe it does, it's just that you're wrong and people like you being wrong about things like this has always resulted in bulk wasted money, soldiers avoidably dying in wars and a military unfit for achieving any worthwhile national goals. You and people like you today just as sure about this as Curtis LeMay was before and even during Vietnam, and you're just as wrong as he was.Key West was a mistake, the Air Force is institutionally incapable of keeping fast air pilots shut in their boxes etc, etc.
>>65073583>I, frankly, seriously doubt that F35 actually does it well enough.
>>65073812>bro trust me the plane will just automagically spot targets for you this time bro just trust me bro this time it will really work bro and you wont have to find things yourself bro please bro please just trust me this time it will be different bro
>>65073757Oh, wait, are you the USN conspiracy theorist? The one who's certain that Cheney cancelled the A-12 because his wife was connected to Lockheed (which infamously only attempted to design a carrier plane *once*)?
>>65075945NTA, the plane won't spot it's own targets because it can't tell the difference between the house full of guys shooting at you and the other ones.I don't know if anything like this is in service but you can give FACs optics that get there own location with GPS, know which bearing they are pointing and range the target to generate target coordinates and send them to the aircraft over LINK.In EW permissive environments something like this would be amazing, in EW fucked environments you are still stuck talking the plane on and marking if you can.
