Is the Name gtg? What would you have called it?
>>65079569Should have named it after some of those pacific natives with the wood armor and copper machetes. Tlingit or Haida
>>65079569what does this do better
>>65079569It just makes me sad remembering what happened to Cheyenne 1. She was too pure for this world.>>65079582It doesn't crash constantly.
>>65079606Let's give it a few years of service before we can claim that. Those rotation gearboxes are begging for some dirt and dust damage.
>>65079582Than the Blackhawk? IIRC it more or less doubles both the speed and range. Once they integrate “launched effects” it’s also a way to backdoor organic more or less fixed wing air support.
>>65079569Cheyenne is not an ESL-friendly name. Salish would've been better
Not a fan of giving it the bame of an attack helicopter. Should have been another bird of prey, maybe marine related due to it's resemblance of the osprey. Ibis, Heron or Pelican might work (Wildcard: MV-75 Boobie)
>>65079785They should call itBIG DICK BIRD
>>65079569We lost the SB-12 for a fucking osprey clone. Was the dual linkage rotors really harder than whatever the fuck this shit is.
>>65079791Mallard.
>>65079825yes
>>65079569How do you pronounce that? My mind went immediately to cayenne pepper
>>65079862Shy-Ann Too
>>65079785>original Cheyenne was fucking amazing>killed because the airforce got buttmad it was too close to a fixed wing aircraft>new cheyenne is a tiltrotor that literally transforms into a fixed wing aircraftYou gotta love the cheek of it
>>65079785I mean the Blackhawk, Chinook, and Iroquois (huey) all got injun names, though “blackhawk” does sorta double function as a bird name. I agree Osprey sets bird precedent but i dont think injun names are just for attack choppers.
>>65079569Instead of the giant propellers why not just use turbo jets or high bypass then you dont have to worry about the blades hitting the ground.
>>65079931that;s never been an issue smoothbrain
>>65079578Nobody knows how to pronounce those names. Everyone knows how to say "cheyenne" because is the name of that dog in the tutorial of Fallout New Vegas.
>>65079779Yes it is. It's a very pronounceable name.
>>65079569I was hoping for "Yupik" instead of rehashing a tribe they already used.
>>65079862I hope to God that you're an ESL thirdie or so underage that you haven't gotten to state capitals yet.
>>65079569“Cheyenne II Because Fuck The Air Force” rolls off the tongue pretty well I think.
>>65079825>SB-12You mean the SB-1 Defiant?
>>65079997Native Algic really fucks up euros
>>65079989>Who should we name this aircraft after?>Yupik.>Well if you insist, then I'll pick the Cheyenne.
>>65080091kek
>>65080091I laughed a lot harder than I should.
>>65079569looks like a fixed wing blackhawk.
>>65079707The reason the Osprey had problems with dust and dirt is because of the jetwash. Now that the jets don't point down and it's just normal propwash kicking up dust, that shouldn't be nearly as bad.
>>65079578The Canadians have dibs on the Haida
>>65079825SB-1 was a big fat ugly bitch with most of its internal volume taken up by a ridiculously oversized gearbox. The pusher prop config had some advantages for their FARA entry, and then this would have parts in common, but with that program cancelled it just doesn't make any sense.
>>65079931The Osprey would start brush fires with its exhaust, which is why they stay horizontal on this one.
>>65080091Kek. Nice.
>>65080091just what I needed after a long day at work
>>65079582it has more range and can autorotate
>>65080366>go to bell website>they have a products tab with their helicopters>when you mouse over the helicopter, it plays a little take off animationThis is the kind of MIC propaganda that works on me. Completely adorable.
>>65080091Thats.....probably what happened kek.
>>65079569>Blackfoot
>>65079946>never been an issue smoothbrainstop smooth brane hate
>>65079569looks like an autistic black hawk
Why not just call it Cheyenne? AH-56 never went in to service
>>65080566Yo, I wonder if they run Summer and Winter sales. I'd like to cop me a Venom.
>>65080820Then google results would show a much cooler vehicle.
>>65079984>fallout fags are retardsYeah we know but the rest of us could
>>65080366tilt rotors can't autorotate
>>65079578Sorry, unless you're a South Western, Great lakes or Plains tribe that gave the US trouble during Western expansion or the Cherokee who took BWC lust to an unheard of level you don't matter and don't get to be on the cool toys
>>65079909the Osprey is not an army helicopter so it's name doesn't matter. Marines name their birds gay shit like "sea knight", "stallion" and "grey ghost", only the army uses tribal names because the army spent most of its early life bulldozing through injun tribes in the actual continent and not the marines.
>>65081068>the army was committing genocide on behalf of commerce and capital while the marines were busy ending the slave trade in the Mediterranean Sounds about right yut yut
>>65081218>implying the injuns didn't commit Mongol-tier levels of raiding, raping, scalping and murdering AND slaving all on their ownI too cry every night over the destruction of the those-murdering-fuckers-coming-all the time tribe at the hands of the federal government
>>65080915You forgot the Seminole
>>65081231Mongol tier implies the razing of cities with wholesale slaughter of millions included so you can't even think of a proper analogy
>>65081253you know what happened to the mound people along the mississipi before the colonists even got there?
>>65079951With how thirsty helicopters are I bet you can physically see the rest chug fuel if you had a clear fuel tank.
>>65081256Ah yes, who could forget when the Iroquois used captives from the conquest of New York to mount a forlorn hope during the Siege of Boston. Their brutality was truly without equal.
>>65079578>ChilkatEveryone can pronounce it and the manufacturer could use some traditional patterns in the branding and seats, floor texture, etc.
>>65081287Damn, just think how many awesome woodwork armors must have existed that we will never see.
>>65081265Never question the brutality of the Iroquois and their allies. The Great Law of Peace only existed for those inside the compact. >t. abenaki mutt
>>65081295>be shipwrecked Jap fisherman>drifting for weeks>only the occasional seagull for company>drift into a harbor, there's a village, smoking fires, people>several war canoes with dozens of guys dressed like this paddle out to enslave you
>>65080915What about the Chinook?
>>65079569Didn't realize Valor was just Bell's name before the Army gives it one, I liked that one
>>65080895They can if you design them right. One of the things they made sure worked was the ability for it to autorotate because Osprey cannot, which contributed to it's (overstated) reputation for crashing. It's harder to do autorotation than on a helicopter but the MV-75 can do it. And either one of it's engines can power both rotors in the event that one loses power, again unlike the Osprey. I don't think people realise just how much the Osprey's reputation motivated a lot of the R&D for FVL
>>65080895not with that attitude
>>65079569Of course the Army chose to rehash the same name like the Air Force did with the F-35 and A-10, how lame. Could've been named something cool like Quapaw or Osage but no, we can't think outside of the box.
>>65080820no one calls it the "F4 Phantom-II"
>>65080091genius
>>65079606>It doesn't crash constantly.Show your data.
>>65081467i vote for pomo
>>65081313>>65081287Just imagine, you're a Russian settler out fir trapping one day when y-HEYAHOYAHEYAHOYAHEYAHOYAHEHAHOYA
>>65081467>OsageThey have to save that for a future Boeing product that burns oil
>>65081464Carlos!
>>65079569Having flown in Ospreys multiple times this thing feels like it'll kill so many service members fuck tilt rotor aircraft with a knife.
>>65081218>the army was committing genocide on behalf of commerce and capitathe army didn't get all the fun, the Marines committed genocide for the Dole Corporation
>>65079825the rotors on the Defiant are called contra-rotating. Bell's tilt-rotor Valor has a much higher cruising speed and probably greater range because of that.
>>65080895If a Chinook can autorotate, then so can a tiltrotor.>>65081448The Osprey can power both proprotors with one engine. That's partly why it's so complicated, because the wings had to fold for storage in a ship's hangar yet it hat to have that massive single driveshaft running through the length of the wing.
>>65080895Autorotation capability is determined by disk loading. If the V-22 had larger rotors and a longer wingspan, it would likely be able to autorotate, but then it would not fit in the hangers on the Amphibs. >>65081448The V-22 engines are linked.
>>65081698>>65081313>>65081287>>65079578The Russians are still butthurt about getting their shit pushed in by these guys 200 years ago.
>>65079606>doesnt crash constantly>isnt even operationalSo you're retarded got it.>>65079825>he thinks government contracts select for the best systemlmao