Whose superiority?
>>65080810Not (You)r IQ that is certain
>>65080792>noooooo i have to learn how to change a mag differently my head is literally going to EXPLOOOOOODEEEEEDo arfags really?
>>65080792https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgHG4vQoKgI
>>65080854enkinofication
>>65080792I used to think I the AUG looked like shit, but as time goes on I really like the look of it. But is my new found appreciation like a husband with an ugly wife, who gradually becomes accustomed to her ugliness?
Recently been thinking on buying an A3 M2. Is there any difference between standard and NATO now that NATO has a bolt catch/release/whatever else was missing?
>>65080920as you're married and raise kids together you realize looks aren't everything. convenience, ease of use, low maintenance, and dependability are important.
>>65080792I know right? The ergonomics on the AR are unbeatable. Also makes adding attachments so much easier with its modular design.
>>65080792When the hell does styer makes more of those 20 inch original STG77 augs thhey we're selling a year ago?
>>65080792The AUG is a good rifle, but saying it's superior to the AR is just laughable. It's short, that's it's only plus. The trigger is mushy dogshit and I say that generously. The reload procedure is awkward at best, and mounting anything to it is limited by the stubby rail real estate, even on the newest versions.
>>65080810Someone should invent a bullpup for ARfags that has the magazine in front of the grip but sucks the cartridge back 10" before feeding it. Like a box/tube magazine hybrid.
>>65081002So unbeatable that people often swap out all the furniture for aftermarket parts. To this day people are still bitching about the A2 grip.
>>65081321Those people are wrong. Luv me A2 grip
>>65081161>trigger is mushy dogshitDo Austrian/Australian recruits even know that though? I get a lot of Americans will join up and they may already have experience with firearms, but for the rest, is it a case of you don't miss what you never had?
>>65080843I couldn't help but notice your unwillingness to answering a simple 2-choice question, curious!>>65080920The AUG always looked awesome, modern ARs are some of the fugliest rifles found outside of Russia. We lost the plot when we "upgraded" to the A4 and it's been a downward spiral since then. Each year I think we've hit rock bottom and then something even more atrocious appears.
>>65080810I assumed they were talking about the AR platform
>>65081511>(You) couldn't help being a brainlet, we already knowchecked>'2-choice question'See what we mean?
>>65081557>I assumed that the 10-inch barrel in OP pic is superior
>>65080792Is the AUG trigger bad enough to offset 20 inches of muzzle speed and a flatter trajectory?
>>65081591>muzzle speed
>>65081587are there a lot of countries adopting the aug these days?
>>65081580You are not smart
>>65080792With this most recent achievement, fate has, in a single stroke, marked the decline of America and spelled a new era of wondrous rifle-length barrels and peaceful short-stroke piston dominance for the Austrian eagle, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically short barrels of American and Russian carbines and the low velocity it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Austrian double-headed eagle, bullpups, glass fibre-reinforced polymers, progressive triggers, left-handed bolts and unaligned gas piston rings will be the instruments with which Austria affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the unaligned world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of American direct impingement or Russian long-stroke inelegance and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified piston-driven world.
>>65081601>>65081609oddly (perhaps not for /k/ however) this OP topic has turned into a board IQ screening testkek
>>65081601Well, Australia has an updated one if that counts. EF88
>>65080792based and bullpilled
>>65081595The vent velocity
>>65081651airsoftpcclarperspeed
>>65080792AUG is victorious, M16 is dead, even the M14 outlived it.
>>65081591>19% more muzzle velocity (if you compare a 20" aug barrel vs a 10.5" AR) in exchange for a shit trigger, shit ergonomics and a non chrome-lined barrel. That's barely even noticeable at normal combat ranges.
>>65080845yesthe american mind can't into simple mechanicsthat's why they had to import scientists from germany to build rockets and what not
>>65082555Do you have any idea how much difference in muzzle energy a 19% velocity change makes?
>>65081587>>65082555>>65082616We have this every fucking AR thread. I don't think the person getting shot cares if they were shot by the 10.3" or 11.5" or 12.7" or 14.5" or 16" or whatever barrels people are actually using or the 20" that Stoner intended.>t. 10.5" and 7.5" owner, I will literally be fine
>>65082638(You) mistakenly greentexted the last (t.) line of post>literallypicrel
>>65082616Basically nothing in practical terms. I do think barrels should be a bit longer than 10.5" for reliability but the round itself doesn't need it.
>>65082638I would much rather be shot with 10'' than 20'' thank you very much.
>>65082649>going from 1800J to 1200J, ie. the difference of being shot at zero meters distance and 200 meters distance is practically nothing
>>65082652>I would much rather (die in 4 seconds of shock/bloodloss) than (die in 4 seconds of shock/bloodloss).
>>65082655Yes, correct. 5.56 bullets are pretty much exactly as deadly at 200 meters as at the muzzle as long as the shot's still lined up
>>65082661>all firearm bullets are pretty much the same lethality no matter distance to target as long as the shot's lined up
>>65082658It's the difference between having a fist sized hole and a dick sized hole in your body.Now, the dick isn't always lethal depending on the location.
>>65080792i just bought an m4 and an ak47, not an aug or a sig 552 (and definitely not a galil). fucking dumb ass, you don't know shit about firearms, faggot.
>>65081591I have a friend who shoots it really well. And I generally think he's a mediocre shot with other rifles, so I guess he just found his niche. My point is that despite the heavy trigger it doesn't automatically lead to poor accuracy
>>65082672>retarded generalizationsThere's a reason not every bullet is a hardball, dumbass
>>65083230>retarded generalizationsStarted with 'basically nothing' : >>65082649
>>65080854Steyr themselves accidentally AR-15'd their AUG.
>>65083885just another AR license(nothing to do with the AUG)
>>65083889>(nothing to do with the AUG)Sure about that?
>>65083936It has nothing to do with the AUG, is built and manufactured by Steyr. <---What does that mean, think hard and deep before posting on the internet once more
>>65081426It's objectively terrible.I've shot dozens of different service rifles and I can say with honesty that it's the worst trigger of any firearm I've ever experienced. I bought a NYPD trade in Glock 17 that still had the 12 pound trigger in it, that felt light and precise in comparison. It's absolute dog shit. I honestly don't understand how it's as bad as it is. It's like they put absolutely zero effort into it.
>>65084119>objectivelyThis the new abuse-buzzword, like 'unironically'?
>>65081161>The reload procedure is awkward at bestSkill issue
>>65084217Not only that, the AR rear charging handle is for retards and not what Eugene Stoner designed(don't get me started on muh forward assist)
>>6508079210.5" ARs have killed more people than the AUG.
>>65084407>oooh but what about what EugeneDo you also think the retarded not-a-can thing he put on the AR-10 and the FARC was so perfect and dumb brass couldn't see the light. Shut the fuck up you Forgotten Weapons/inrange nigger, Stoner was an engineer and needed people with real experience to make his ideas work in a grunt's hands
>>65084436>illiterate unwhite ESL incomprehensible upchuck
>>65084425>10.5" ARs are more retarded than the AUGftfy
>>65084513>more retarded>implying the AUG is at least a little retarded
>>65084539>retarded cope
>>65084425m1 garand has killed more than both combined
>>65086936green text is for talking about someone else's actions, not you own. you'll get it eventually, newfren.
>>65080792Now try to mount a flashlight, IR laser, and thermal on one. so you can MAYBE survive 24 hours in a modern conflict.
>>65087098That was his action:>retarded copenewFaggot brainlet plebbitard
>>650870571911A1 has killed more than any firearm devised or built by humans, plus a Tiger I
>>65087122it's ok, newfren, you don't need to pretend around me.
>>65087130(You) can stop coping now after being totally BTFO itt
>>65087142shhhh little newfren, you're in the company of family. you don't need to put on your act anymore.
>>65087162Only 20-inch length barrels are relevant, brainlet.
>>65080792is the AUG good for lefties? i know you can swap the ejection port but what about the other stuff? is it a pain in the ass to do reloads left handed?
>>65087210get an MDR man. It's actually good, especially for lefties. You can set it up for yourself in about 2 minutes, but if you pass it to a righties, they can still shoot it, even in lefty-mode. due to the cool forward eject feature.
>>65087205shhhh, it's ok
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>>65087233shhhh
>>65087236
>>65087240it's ok, buddy
>>65087245Not your buddy, pal
>>65087250but I'm your pal, guy
>>65087255checked, (You)'re a tranny
>>65080792>obsolete weapon>a weapon that no one can make obsolete The AR really is peak