I'll start. Pic-related is a Philippines M113s with a 30mm Elbit Systems Turret
>>65082574Now stick wings on it and make it fly!
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>>65082574The M113 seems like a pretty underwhelming base for a turret like that
>>65082787The Gavin is a highly maneuverable, light, and mechanically reliable platform, it is excellent as a base for a fire support vehicle.
>>65082808Right. But the turret seems to be heavy and well-armored, contrasting with the vehicle below it. I'm not saying the M113 is a bad vehicle, especially for the Philippines specifically. I'm just saying it seems like an odd choice for this particular turret.
>>65082787It's basically a Bradley at homeWeird because the Bradley is cheap and if they asked for gibs (at least before orange man) America would have sold/given them some
>>65082853Armor doesn't count for squat these days in the era of drones and handheld anti-tank. What this thing needs is HEAT protection so cages all over, and sponsons! Sponsons for more machine guns or autocannons to deal with infantry! Then more turrets for machine guns to shoot down incoming drones! It will become the true perfect infantry fighting vehicle and I shall call it the Battle Gavin!
>>65082808>mechanically reliableLOL You've obviously never been around one of those shitbox tracks in your short, dorito-centric life, brainlet.
>>65082921Philippine military procurement is its own special hell of military guys pointing out what they need, bureaucrat guys telling the military guys what the country & its military infrastructure could afford, and politicians looking to plunder its funding or skim off the top.
>>65083209>military guys pointing out what they need, bureaucrat guys telling the military guys what the country & its military infrastructure could afford, and politicians looking to plunder its funding or skim off the top.That's just normal turdie procurement.
>>65082921They might be able to get them for cheap but it's still more expensive than a M113. Also I doubt they could afford the maintenance costs especially if we take in consideration good ol corruption.
>>65082921Egypt was planning on making a Bradley at home in the truest sense at one point, an FMC incest baby with a m113 or AIFV hull with a brad turret
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>>65083529Is the hull really that much cheaper?
>>65082781TEH COWARDSTEH FEWLS
>>65083277Anon that's just military procurement in a nutshell. Turdies just don't try to hide the corruption.
>>65083535Idk I'm not Egyptian but I'm guessing not enough to be worth it over just using YPR-765s and their old BMP-1s given they passed on it.Or maybe the they're retarded, that's always a possibility.
>>65083553Can't be driven while wearing a fez
>>65083535Dude m113's were given practically free to anyone willing to pay the shipping cost.
>>65083535Oh wait I just read they bought their 25mm turret YPRs on super end of history firesale just around the time EIFV was finishing development.That explains it, it's hard to argue against 75% or so capability for 10% of the price but an IFV without a ATGM just feels flaccid, let alone without the Brad's sexy doppelTOW box
Indonesia and Singapore got the Leopard 2. Phillipines got the Sabrah light tank, Thailand got Oplot and everyone else in SEA got some flavor of T-72 and T-55.
