ACOG Best COG EditionAnon's guide for beginners, text and figureshttps://rentry.org/sa6c4mVicious' TL;DR V3.1 with annotations [A2Grip]https://files.catbox.moe/91lvkc.jpgPrevious>>65071820Submissions for the next holiday collage will be accepted here. For best results, use higher contrast backgrounds. Cropped, poorly lit or cluttered images might be rejected. Please limit one per anon. If time or space were to become a constraint, these rules will be enforced strictly! Ganbatte~
Have you have you ever had a dream where you where you woke up and a2 was gone and he and he wasn't ever here and he was just a figment of our collective consciousness? and you and you lived in ignorance and purchased your happiness, thinking ceased and the and the truth was lost?Where are you, a2?
Five years ago, /arg/ lost thirty thousand posters in the blink of an eye, and the world didn't fuckin' watch. Tomorrow, there will be no shortage of Averi. No shortage of my dihhhh going buuuh in that aaaaah.I know you understand.
>>65084272TYFYS
Why the fuck do some gun stores not accept shipments from private sellers for transfer? It's retarded. It's not even against the law it's just some dumbass store policy.
>>65084272>>65084040>afraid of cottonmouths, the chillest vipers in the worldpeople like you are why all the shit at the supermarket is locked up
>only 5% of /k/ AR owners post in /arg/95% of Americans don't go into gay bars either.
>>65084272
>>65084272>ACOG Best COGMy stacked RMR bonked me and cut my forehead when I took the tattooed roastie shooting. I'm gonna have to go Elcan I think
>>65084235I haven't looked at 5.56 in a few months is it bad now?
>>65084401didnt get included in this one either i cant express how much it hurts in every fiber of my being when i get left out again
>>65084433I'm in it twice. again.
>>65084433I'm always included and I appreciate his service
>>65084272Check our my new AR
>>65084272>>65084401I'll be up here sometime soon.
>>65084272If I see my rifle get posted here again I'm gonna lose it
Hehe spiders are bros!
>>65084473Sucks you decided not to clean the bite, looser
>>65084466Never fucking post my rifle again you retarded faggot
>>65084473You're going to get your arm amputated for not going to a doctor like a retard
If you were a Virginian who already had AR-15s and didn't need more, which AR-15 would you buy?
>>65084497KAC
>>65084481Stop posting my fucking rifle you virgins before I see red as lose it.
>>65084541wtf why did you lose it? Where the fuck is your rifle? Now I can't post it anymore, it's lost. How could you do this.
What optics are /arg approved? I need to replace a few red dots. What should I buy in bulk? My current ones are all outdated and kinda shitty. Would like T2s but they're expensive.
>>65084551I clearly left a note. Just be patient, mom said it’s MY turn with it.
>>65084563that sig one. Not the shit one, the good one.
>>65084563PVS-2
>>65084563Get one t2 and then whatever else you want on the other rifles.
>>65084473Pop it, do a pus tribute
>>65084563OKP-7
>>65084473stop shooting up and not showing. then you wont get MRSA, junkie
>>65084573I agree
What's the toyota camry of AR-15s?What's the prius?
>>65084675BCM is the camrySOLGW is the prius since its for homos
where stock competition
What's the 911 GT3 RS (992 gen) of AR15s?
>>65084678>SOLGWWhat a self important name, why can't AR stuff have normal branding. I want "John's Gun Factory" not "God Bless Our American Action Heroes (us) Who Eternally Praise The Founding Fathers And Spill The Blood of Tyrants Freedom Weapons Atelier And Mens Wellness Lounge"
>>65084689It's called marketing, they know their target audience is men with large beards and tattoo sleeves.
>>65084697Anyway I feel like that's more Mini Cooper territory. Priuses are used by Mongolian yak herders now, your idea of them as the choice of an effete urban homosexual is like 20 years out of date.
>>65084476>>65084495Nah, it went away on its own. I dod clean it and drain it, that's just what a black widow does to you.
https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/12/22/everyone-in-mongolia-drives-a-priusIn case you think I'm making this up
Don't like ACOGs, don't like how they look.Like my BLACKED Vortex Razor
>>65084323Because they want you to buy from them, not a private seller online
>>65084323Because the gun store doesn't make money from it yet requires labor to process and opens them up to liability (especially during the Biden-era zero tolerance for paperwork fuckups).It doesn't have to be this way but until either: 1. background checks are abolished, or 2. NICS is opened to everyone to use - this is the best we have for now.
>>65084753What does that mean don't make money for it. Is there some rule that FFLs have to work for free?
the strait of AR15s
>>65084803My FFL charges $10 for transfers
>>65084840I will pay the $10 fee to transfer you back to XCReddit.
>>65084840>don't charge enough for a service to keep the lights on>complain when too many people want to pay you for a service for the price you're askingIf only there were a solution to this
>>650848031. Each background check costs something to run, usually around $10 per check that the FFL has to pay2. Time spent doing paperwork (usually 15-20 minutes start to finish) is time not spent on a profit-generating task. Again, not a long time but also not zero time either.So yeah it's not a lot of money but it's like going to Safeway and buying a wire transfer. Safeway has to facilitate that transaction and recoup at least enough cost as to break even.
>>65084894So, $10 for transfers, and it costs them $10 to run the check. Huh.It's wild to me that the Gun Control Act of 1968 requires them to work, quite literally, for free. I suppose if it's the only way to stay out of federal pound me in the ass prison, it's a small sacrifice to make.
>>65084876They make a lot of money in custom ammo orders and ammo sales in general>>65084894Wat. The FFL doesn't run a background check. It's a NICS check that the ATF runs. The FFL just submits your information>>65084869I don't think you realize how long I've been here
How is this for the price? A colt or springfield is around 400-500 more I already have a decent AR but would like an A2/A4 version with a 20" barrel
>>65084272yippeeee
Elcog
I suspect Herrera is the next target >>65084297>>65084401>>65084442>>65084452>>65085002o7>>65084453>>65084366That's not yours>>65084419>Specter prices now at 150%I suppose you cant put a price on forehead safety, my friend!>>65084433Silence, Fishy>>65084715Glad you bore witness, Cahiers
>>65084686idk.
>>65085043yes it is, heres another of my personal guns
>>65084983Colt has the best value for what it is. Better barrel and potentially better QC. I'm pretty sure you will get milspec Colt C marked parts as well. Get the one with AR15A4 lowerSKU 098289023292
>>65085202You are a LIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>65085305god i wish my girlfriend loved me as much as your wife does you
>>65085305YER CRYIN TO THE DEAF LIBRUL
>>65084366What stock is this?
>>65085330lr300
>>65084840Nobody asked. This guy legit has main character syndrome
>>65085474Shut up faggot
Hello,advice here, so I bought this shit from chinashop just for fun but I kinda like the design, but of course now I want something proper. Who makes good alloy risers like pic related? Thanks
>>65085334You always remember the ones that got away
>>65085485Unity.
>>65085485Unity. It doesn't have a pic rail on top tho
>>65085485Pic related
Anyone have experience with the Sig 8T? Pros, cons, etc. Not sure if it's worth the 1k price tag but I'm in need of a new red dot.
>>65085661I was going to clown you for considering a $1,000 red dot but i bought multiple T2s
>watch brass facts for first time in awhile>name drop A2Has this always been true?
>>65085485I have a monstrum one and so far it’s been great so I’m not upgrading.
>>65085802Yeah
>>65084272Is 18 inches a good barrel length or is it in an awkward spot for a 5.56 rifle?
>>65085872if you got a front sight block, 18" - 20" with a rifle length system is idealfor free floated it doesnt really matter
>>65084983if you want an A4 get a Colt, if you want an A2 get H&R, they're close to the same price on PSA's website. but if you don't want to spend that much on a "meme" gun, there are worse options than a standard PA-15.>https://palmettostatearmory.com/colt-223-rem-5-56-ar-15-rifle-ar15a4.html>https://palmettostatearmory.com/harrington-richardson-m16a2-chrome-lined-rifle-gray.html
>>65085956I thought H&R was considered dogshit tier
>>65085775I considered a T2 but it's about 200-300 buckaroos more than a 8T.
>>65085977https://clydearmory.com/aimpoint-micro-t-2-200170/
>>65085970some people shit on them because they're owned by PSA, but I've heard (mostly) good things about there retro rifles. or if you're thinking about old H&R, they're dead.
>>65086002*their
Thinking of putting one of those A2 HBAR cheek risers on this thing.Yay or nay?
>>65086014yea
>>65086029100% approval rating so far. I knew it was a good idea.
>>65086048+1, make that 200% approval.
>>65085027Is this yours? Do you also have a 1/4 Elcan?Can you measure the difference between optical axis height over rail between the two models? Or if you only have the M145 can you get a rough measurement for the distance between the height of the rail and say the "top" of the mount, or the underside of the optic body/housing itself. Picture related. I'm trying to get an idea for the distance between the plane/surface marked in red vs the top of the picatinny rail (flat underside of the mount).
>>65086064No I am not doing that for you lmao
>>65086064What’d you break?
>>65086135His brain.
>>65084563
>>65084272I'm glad the snow is gone but I miss having the range to myself.
>>65084433About 1/3 of the rifles in that collage are mine.
Currently have a basic horosun 515 on my rifle, it works fine, however this is my "serious" rifle and I don't think I trust the optic 100%. Is the upgrade to a t2 worth?
>>65086215yeah
Mini-14?
>>65086250
Anyone ever run these?Tempted to cop it.
>>65086427Just a brief heads-up, Schmeisser is basically the PSA of Europe.They offer a wide line of products that look amazing on paper, lots and lots of desirable features on very reasonably priced guns. But the actual quality of those guns can be questionable, regardless of the number of features.Schmeisser are also big fans of the SIG-USA marketing strategy that is just straight lying about the origin of their products.They import cheap 3rd world garbage, re-assemble it upon import, or just straight up repacking it, then slap a big "MADE IN GERMANY"-sticker on the box.
>>65086427I got one for $28 online (gunmagwarehouse I think) just for fun. Never had an issue with it but it's just a range toy for me. I would not pay $45 for it.
>>65086427those were like 12 bucks or something on PSA the other day. $45 is way too much
>>65086451>>65086468>>65086479Thanks for the heads up.
Are the brownells aluminum mags the same quality as suresneeds?
>>65086616Brownells GI mags are top-tier.Legit great shit.
>>65084753>Because the gun store doesn't make money from itThey do for the transfer fee>>65084733Gun stores don't carry every gun part I need
I have an AR and I'm satisfied with it, but I want something different. I was thinking either an AK or a Styer AUG. Which would /arg/ pick?
>>65086692AK all the way! I can't even explain why, since the AUG is superior in pretty much every aspect, at least theoretically.But having experience with both platforms, something about the AUG just feels off, while the AK strongly appeals to the primal caveman brain deep inside every red-blooded male.
>>65086659>every gun part I needWhat part even needs transferred besides the lower receiver?
How good/bad would this be for a first AR15?
>>65086064What kind of retarded Frankenstein shit are you up to now? No ELCAN golems>>65086699>t. buttplug expert
Good or bad optic?
>>65086817Main Character Carbon
>>65086851>sidequest jimmy
>>65086750A lower receiver.You think your LGS is carrying a KAC or HK?
>>65086896If you're buying KAC or HK you can afford the transfer fee, broke nigga
There's a dad at this one year old's birthday party that looks like a muscular, ectomorphic Sam Hyde but he's a yogi.>>65086829Good>>65086810eh as long as it's in tolerance it'll be overgassed but fine>>65086427they're great>>65086064get a load of this guy >>65085310Every day I attempt to be a man that deserves someone as beautiful, as ethical, as intelligent as her.>>65084956>I don't think you realize how long I've been hereNot really a flex but I love that image it's a classic.
>>65086616>the sameNo
man why are G17 mags out of stock everywhere? im moving to a ban state. fuck
>>65087000>im moving to a ban statewhy?
>>65087000Checked. Looks like sportsmans.com has them /ship to store/ if there's one in your area.
>>65087000>G17 mags out of stock>moving to a ban stateGrim! Perhaps Mec-Gar 18-rounders are still available?
>>65087107turns out life is more than just building around a single hobby methinks
>>65087107Got a job offer I couldnt refuse. Ban states suck. but oh well, i'll be crying in my lifted 2027 Tacoma Premium with quad nods with the bed full of MK262. >>65087110im tempted. id have to drive and get it though. I'll think about it. I have some G17 mags but not quite enough as I like considering i'll never be able to buy full cap mags again in my life.
>>65087118yo I was looking at these. Im old, i dont remember full steel mags EVER being a thing for glocks. must be new? i wonder if they're good. I feel that the tolerances would be all weird due to smaller sidewall thickness.
>>65087136Yeah, it sucks, I huffed hopium thinking scotus was about to do something about magazine bans. Never watching "gun law" youtube grifters again. Nothing ever happens.
>>65084272I wanna be in the Trijicon collage. Does my VCOG count?
>>65087147Pastebin is bizarrely excited about them so he will tell you they are the greatest ever
>>65087136>i'll be crying in my lifted 2027 Tacoma PremiumThe real tears come when you have to live at the dealership waiting for it to be repaired.
>>65087164Yep. I unsubbed from all the gun law channels. absolute meme. I will say though, i was pleasantly suprised by the $0 tax stamp thing. Sex rifle btw, whats that pic section on top for?>>65087174how far can you zoom out before you see the FSB? >>65087174they're probably good. I have other mec gar mags though. I dont want to mix them up :(
>>65087125I wounder if the type of state that bans guns and mags is the same type of state that would not take good care of its citizens and take away other rights you have while letting criminals run free methinks
>>65087203It's just the top of the suppressor shield's picrail clamp, not sure what you'd put up there... You can swap the picrail out for a scalarworks front buis I think. looks a little strange, not sure how much i love the shield vs. a wrap so far tbqh.
Me? I'm just (not) patiently waiting for the g43x OEM 15 rounders.
>>65087215Idk but they do correlate with the highest cost of living and highest median wages so probably explains>>65087136Also >he abides by state lawsWhy would you do that
>>65087219Just saying a state that is willing to fuck with you buying mags is going to mess with you more over time and not look out for you or your family. State governance really is important especially now.
>>65087147>I feel that the tolerances would be all weirdMec-Gar is now the OEM for Glock 43X and 48 magazines so any issues with the dimensions should have been resolved by now. I would say the only caveats about them are the lack of insertion stop on the G17 model [shoving one into a subcompact or smaller frame will not work necessarily] and that they aren't as easy to fill but also not particularly difficult. Apart from that, I've been loading them 18+1 every range trip this year and haven't had any issues>>65087171Yours will be in the Memorial Day collage, omedetou
>>65087268Idk man I lived in two ban states and never felt encroached in any manner. When you open your scope of unjust laws to beyond guns even gun friendly states have over controlling laws when it comes to other matters. It's simply more nuanced than using mag bans to determine where you live in the country and hardly indicative of anything. Btw I ordered normal capacity mags to both my homes in both ban states and was never bothered because who could be assed. Also everything I needed to drill the third hole. Ymmv doing a lot of heavy lifting imo
>>65087164state laws have always superceded federal laws you dipshit.
>>65087320that shrimply isn't true but ok
>>65087321huh? Income taxes vary by state, driving & vehicle regulations vary by state, abortion laws vary by state, once upon a time even slavery laws varied by state.
>>65087215What a weird take. Usually the states that are whiny bitches about mags have relatively (by US standards) well developed social services, public health, civil rights protections, and so on. The ones where it's easier to buy 30 round mags than inner tubes for a bicycle are the ones where public school kids are required to pledge allegiance to protestant jesus every morning, catholics and jews are officially banned from serving in public office, and women are required to undergo a virginity check before applying for a drivers license or registering to vote.In fact pretty much the ONLY upside to living in places like that is the firearms scene and the fact that emissions standards for motor vehicles either do not exist or are not enforced. Even getting good wine or fresh vegetables is usually a challenge let alone decent medical care.
>>65087348>Even getting good wine or fresh vegetables is usually a challengethis nigga sweet as a sugar plum
>>65087342This is going to be funny.
>>65087353Of course arugula is a swear word and whine is for wops and dagos and faggots in the real america, how could I forget
>>65087348>women are required to undergo a virginity check before applying for a drivers license or registering to voteThis part should be true and enforced everywhere.
>>65087136>cost of living and state income/property tax eats up increased wagesThere's always a catch in the cuck states
>>65087136>i'll be crying in my lifted 2027 TacomaUndoubtedly, yes
Should I send it, or is this a meme? Or both?
You did go shooting today right /arg/?Your rifle isn’t a safe princess is it?
>>65087404It's in use by various special forces, not a meme
>>65087405not this week, but I had a great time in the rain last week and snow the week before
>>65087405I can't I'm pregnant with a horsegirl
Is repro M16 furniture available on the market? I understand rails would usually be the better choice but I like the classics
>>65087136Nice thats 21 years newer than my lifted Tacoma>>65087405I just did last weekend
>>65087447>https://www.uscollectorsordnance.com/product/m16a1-new-manufacture-furniture-set/they also have original sets too
>>65087493this
Has Ash finally died from his Chinese research chemicals?
>>65087557No Iran deployed him to block the strait
>>65087275Of course its more nuanced but a mag ban is a good heuristic that the state is working against your interests which has long term implication. Its important to think past today when it comes to where you are going to live.>>65087348>public school kids are required to pledge allegiance to protestant jesus every morning, catholics and jews are officially banned from serving in public office, and women are required to undergo a virginity check before applying for a drivers license or registering to vote.Anon I can only get so hard. To your point they typically have more social services which attracts the worst kind of ppl (br/wn) couple that with soft on crime laws and you or your kids could be making the news just going about your day. Or say you defend yourself and they try to put you in jail because the state doesn't have pro self defense laws ie stand your ground.>>65087404Ive heard its still fairly loud but good at signature reduction. I would rather have a can even a k can unless you want your rifle as short as possible and don't care about db as much. A quieter rifle is always nicer, even with ears.
>>65087405No I'm helping my buddy finish a rebuild on his nearly 20 year old wheeler
>>65087637this nigga really carries his rifle slung on his back everywhere like hes him, lil bro ur 56
Unironically how old are the avatarposters and tripfags? Here are my estimates:- Big Ben Gvir, Fishy, KCanon, Overwhites, and Wuggy around ~30 plus or minus couple years- A2grip, Schizo Cabron, Vicious, Dan, and Skelly all at least 40- Pastebin, Sheetz, and the labubu lover all 20-25
>>65087405
>>65087716He brings it into Walmart and tells people to let him know if they see anything suspicious
>>65087797Julie is 32. I topped her a few times on grindr.
>>65087797bb is 25
>>65087833>yesterday
>>65087797im 30 but look 17
>>65087865>im 30
>>65087404>flow through can that doesn't need constant cleaning, and has better flash reductionHell yeah. Probably the most badass suppressor I've seen in years.ONLY buy the 1.3" over the barrel model. And fully commit to getting the SD module add-on. Otherwise I wouldn't do it.
>>65087797I'm 32. I'm just boring
>>65087797Shaving my face gets me carded, heh
>>65087797I'm 36 but I look 35.
>>65087897I bet Bubba could crank one of those out on his lathe, no problem.
>>65087865>t.
Early 30s so far have been way better than late 20s. Age 26-29 I was poor, stressed out, shit diet, skinnyfat, drinking, video games, dude weed phase, etc.Around age 30 something clicked and I put on a fuck ton of muscle mass and started doing better at work and school. Idk why.
what barrel specs should i pursue if i want to maximize bullet tumble? and how much of an affect does twist rate realistically have on it?my guess is that i should be using a 20 inch barrel and m193 ammo, but i'm not sure if i need a 1:12 twist rate or if i can get the same result while settling for 1:8>it doesnt matter just do whateveri'm asking for autism sake here i just wanna know the facts
>>65087912he said he looked 17, not 12.
>>65087927Put points into luck.
>>650879271:12 behaves the way it does because it barely stabilizes M193. if it gets cold enough it just won't, which is one of the reasons they switched to a faster twist rate.
Is the Giessele El Corto or the Border Patrol rifles high teir?
>>6508792720" probably too long to get any decent tumbling. It'll just fragment unless your target is like 400+ yards. Generally you want the slowest twist possible to facilitate projectile destabilization. but not too slow to where it destabilizes in the air (hurting accuracy).Id recommend an 11.5 firing Tumble-Upon-Impact (TUI) rounds. Past 100 yards it won't fragment, but it still tumbles like a motherfhcker
>>65087927probably one of those unrifled franklin armory barrels
>>65087939i see, i think i've been having a misunderstanding thinking that the lethality of m193 in the m16a1 was from bullet yaw, i think it might've actually been fragmentationso i have to ask, whats more nasty to get hit by, a tumbling bullet, or a fragmenting bullet?
thinking of blind buying a victor saint 11.5", intend to have a nice stock+lpvo+grip+suppressor. range toy mostly but home defence/boog.anyone already have or have experience with one of these? bad move? good move? what am i in for
>>65087948Fragment is way worse. Certain bullets like M193, 7N6, and TUI have the center of gravity shifted so that if they're going slow enough to not explode inside of you, they'll tumble. It's kinda like a fallback option.Fragment is a fine line though, too much fragment (too fast, or certain meme hollow points like VMAX) hurt penetration
I don't understand why you wouldn't just stock up on m193 and m855. Buying a "loadout" of specialized expensive ammo just seems extreme and silly.If the plinking ammo and the actual use case ammo matches up your holds remain the same, your experience shooting remains the same across the board and removes a variable and potential point of failure immediately.
>>65087954thanks
>>65087951They're fine, Springfield is kind of an entry level brand, but they run. Just don't pay too much for it. Once you get up past $1100 you're getting into BCM territory, which will have a much nicer chrome lined barrel, and individually quality-tested parts. Keep an eye on BCM and PSA Sabre. Don't be afraid to slap an upper and lower together.
>>65087965copy that, sounds good. yeah i'm thinking of going with it instead of a bren 2, so this is great feedback, thank you
>>6508795677gr OTMs will have much lower flash, perform better through brush and glass, resists wind, and have a longer fragmentation range. It's just better in every respect.I personally believe in picking a brand that is moderately affordable. Like PSA AAC 77gr or IMI razor core. Possibly mag tech or S&B. All these brands are much cheaper than real Black Hills stuff.You should zero your rifle for these, and reserve M193 for drills or mag dumping
>>65086912>If you're buying KAC or HK you can afford the transfer fee, broke niggaAre you fucking stupid?Literal 0 reading comprehension no wonder you're simping for some dumb mexican.
>>65087969Bren 2 is great but the hard guard is too short. It bothers me. when you put lights and lasers on it, it splashes off the barrel.You'll enjoy the Springfield. If shoot out the barrel you can just get a new chrome lined barrel for cheap.I am waiting for the new M&P factory 11.5 SBRs to drop. $0 tax stamp. Sexy
>>65087983Seasoning police detected.
If you pay $1350 for this M&P grip, it comes with a free 11.5 Ar15 attached.
>>65087956Just buy four 1000 round cases of 75gr hornady frontier BTHP
>>65087956Nah I’m good.
>>65087983Ship it somewhere that does transfers. Who cares lil nigga it isn't that serious
>>6508779734
>>65085043Unrelated,but somewhat related, I too am doing the nuclear cowboy simulator poster child AR. Its in its flashbacks eta atm since Id rather get a carpenter nearby to carve the furniture out of local wood. will also do a survivalist's build in .50 beowulf at some point in the distant future, I have cetmes and aks to build and mayhaps sell till then. pic related