Are there gun companies that are universally liked, the way some are hated? I don't mean "have a large and controversial cult following" but I mean like pretty much anyone with a gun thinks of them in favorable terms with no qualifications like "but they're overpriced" or "but I wouldn't want anyone to know I got one"What companies have unfairly gotten a bad rap?
>>65087795Everyone likes Beretta and Kel tec. Even the haters of Kel tec love Kel tec.
Never hear anything bad about Bergara. Maybe a little hate since Bergara owners tend to be smug faggots who act like they cracked the code, but thats never really directed at the guns themselves.
sako and tikka
>>65087801>Even the haters of Kel tec love Kel tec.i talked to a boomer the other week and he said he shot a kel tec something or other and couldn't get a full mag through without it jamming. then we spent about 30 mins gushing about all the stupid crazy shit they do that does work. >i swear those boys are snorting half the snow that ends up in florida!he hated the one gun he fired but loved them as a company.
>>65087795Ruger is generally liked for affordable guns.
>>65087845CZ also gets good reviews.
>>65087846Did you miss the whole thing about the exploding scorpions?
>>65087801>>65087832KT definitely has haters. People who write them off as junk, although I think everyone can acknowledge that they are innovative.Beretta has fewer haters but they have made some iffy guns over the years and there are a lot of vets who swear at the Mo because the one they qualified with/were issued was clapped out. There are allegations of corruption during the XM9 trials as well, and they are currently trying to corner or outright monopolize the entire gun industry.>>65087845Ruger is also panned as junk guns (which some definitely are) but there's also a huge undercurrent of people who hate them because Bill Ruger switched sides and openly supported (some) gun control laws. He's dead now and Ruger as a company has done a complete 180 since that time, but a very big chunk of the gun buying public will never forgive them.>>65087830>>65087824There are a lot of decent bolt action rifle manufacturers that nobody has any reason to hate on. Besides Tikka, Sako and Bergara I think Howa is universally respected. Their importer (LSI) not so much.
>>65087846CZ is mostly seen in a positive light but their newer guns haven't been as good and their prices have started approaching the ridiculous. People detest their obnoxious fanboys as well. A gun is not a good deal if you have to tear it down and have it fully rebuilt at a custom shop to make it reliable let alone good.Some of their newer models like the CZ600 are downright shameful. I think when they acquired Colt they didn't run the retards who wrecked it out of town, but instead invited them to take CZ over and wreck it as well. Clueless executives who fail upwards and destroy everything they touch are quite the infectious disease.
>>65087845Their entire lineup is lazy and uninspired. It's hard to hate the Mark IV, but I certainly wouldn't own any other Ruger.
>>65087795Beretta got through it's primary hate period once the news about it being all jarheads loading it wrong got out. Kel-tec is generally liked. I think Smith&Wesson is the ultimate normie-liked gun company. Hk is respected but not liked
Does anyone hate Walther?
>>65087866>>65087868I feel like Ruger and S&W both take inspiration from Keltec.
>>65087863>I think when they acquired Colt they didn't run the retards who wrecked it out of town, but instead invited them to take CZ over and wreck it as well.people keep blaming colt when cz was wrecking itself well before the colt buyout. fuckin delusional.
>>65087795No, if you’re anti-gun you hate all gun companies by default so… every gun company is hated by someone
>>65087866The 10/22 is also an absolute workhorse. That and the Mark IV pretty much prop up the entire company's reputation
>>65087910Aren't their revolvers are pretty well liked?
>>65087871only their 22. i personally hated shooting the one walther ppk i shot but it was made by interarm so maybe their fault. just felt so slippery
>>65087871The umarex/rohm Cologne proofed guns they sold like the PK380 are very hateable and that leads some to write off the whole brand. This was a bigger deal in the recent past when their lineup was more sparse post umarex buyout
Do relatively obscure companies count? If so Daewoo - though I'm going to start hating them if they don't hurry the fuck up with their new rifles. I want a 1:7 twist barrel for my gun and a bayonet lug and a different stock.
>>65087880They were on a slow decline in quality and value pre Colt buyout, but it seems like they suddenly went off a cliff right afterwards.
>>65087859I wish Howa offered some guns that looked a bit nicer. The quality is amazing but their rifles look unbelievably tacky and cheap. They could easily lean into quirky Japanese styling to stand out but they don't. Even their logo looks like it belongs on a BB gun. Its probably because of WW2, but they really need to use their Japanese market logo again. They still use it to this day over there.
>>65087882They're aren't people, so they don't count as "someone".>namefag being uselessPar for the course
>>65087795>cannot under any circumstances go offmfw
>>65087795>What companies have unfairly gotten a bad rap?Bersa
>>65087992czusa was about to go bankrupt and axed completely a few months before the colt buyout due to mismanagement.
Never heard anyone say anything negative about FN
>>65088066Everyone just bitches about their guns individually, they never commit the same mistake twice
>>65088064All they had to FUCKING do was keep making and importing old Brno designs and they couldn't even manage that.
>>65087845>>65087863CZ and Ruger are similar IMO in that they have a niche they're very good at (CZ –steel frame 9mm pistols and .22s for Ruger) and the rest are hit and miss
>>65088080pretty much it was hey the americans want 452s po1 sp01 shadows 85s etc and cz was fuck you its discontinued you sell what we send you. enjoy the p07 p10 insert shitty modernized boltaction.
>>65088066Their poly pistols went through the wringer awhile back and their customer service has a bad reputation though they're hardly alone there.The most damning indictment for them really is their sheer irrelevance on the civilian market outside of a handful of niche guns.And not for lack of trying.
>>65087795Up until very recently Colt was universally beloved by everyone. They started to stumble in the 2000s but only really shit the bed in the last decade.Currently, though? Mossberg. They're universally praised for their shotguns. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the real world who dislikes them.
>>65088121Mossberg is criticized for their non-shotgun offerings generally being subpar>>65087868Yeah I think the only Beretta hate is from CZ fetishists
>>65088121Very recently? They've been essentially enduring an extended humiliation ritual since the 90's. The double eagle and the all American 2000, leaving Hartford, losing their revolvers, losing the M4 contract, the list goes on.Honestly seems like they're on the upswing lately compared to that walking nightmare. Aren't their reintroduced revolvers well received?
>>65087859>>65087995>Howathey've made outstanding guns for years, also Miroku that have been imported to U.S. under different brands (even back in the 50s-60s as department store guns)
>>65087801I genuinely hate Kel Tec.
>>65087830Overpriced eurotrash
>>65087845So is Glock. We're talking about guns that AREN'T also hated.
>>65087846Nah people have whined and wailed about tooling marks for years and years even when they were one of the best value brands on the market 10 years ago
>>65087801Beretta fucking sucks
>>65087995Who cares about complete rifles? Just buy their action and a nice chassis.
>>65088171>Beretta is bad because of a non-flush optic plateKind of a reach there anon
>>65088172Yeah I guess Howas are like Remingtons that don't suck
I don't think I ever heard anyone shit talking Tikka.
>>65087795Thompson-Center
>>65087845THE 94 AWB SCREWING WAS WORSE THAN VINCE MCMAHON DENYING STONE COLD THE ROYAL RUMBLE SPOT
>>65087795Holy cope lmao
>>65087910The American is unfortunately kind of a hit too. Mini-14/30. Also don't they own Stoeger shotguns?
>>65087795"All rumors are false until officially denied."
>>65088309Stoeger is own by Benelli's US arm, which is in turn owned by Beretta with the rest of Benelli
>>65087910>>65088309Exactly the lazy, uninspired shit I was talking about.
>>65088060LMAO. Breddy underrated guntoober desu.
>>65088564>10/22>lazy, uninspiredthat's no way to talk about yourself anon. The whole fucking point of a 10/22 is that it's a blank slate you can turn into exactly what you want. The only way that gun is boring is if you have zero personality to make it your own.
>>65088564Every good gun is boring. Because if a gun is good enough, every gun that comes after will copy it and become the norm.Interesting guns are by default, utter dogshit. They can only be interesting because they have no value. If they had any ideas worth retaining and passing on to the next generation, you would think they are uninspired and lazy.
>>65088746Cope with what? Do you even know?
>>65088093I'd say revolvers are equally Ruger's niche.Everything else is pretty uninspiring but that hardly makes it bad.This reliable mediocrity is why the RXM took off like it did, being the first cheap 3rd gen clone from a relatively trustworthy company
>>65087859>huge undercurrent of people who hate them because Bill Ruger switched sidesThey were poised to capture the market and instead he shot the company in the foot.
>>65088795I feel like while deserving of plenty of ire, people look at Bill the wrong way. He was more of a soft-headed chamberlain than a true quisling.He genuinely thought we were at risk of losing the 2A entirely or at least far more than we did and was naive enough to think appeasement would work.This wasn't an uncommon stance at the time and the no step back attitude of today is a fairly recent phenomenon.Still, late in life he bungled more than a few projects by being kind of a stupid dick. I unironically think it was leadbrain and if so that might have contributed to the fuddishness as well.
>>65088760Shut up chinkshill. Ping pong wing wong. Vely implessive!
>>65088889Did your scripting break?
>>65088196It's a sign of their laziness
>>65087795My vote is Benelli is universally liked. When your niche is just simply good shotguns from across a range of price and applications, it's really hard to have any issue with them. The Benelli M2 is based.
>>65087795Ithaca
>>65087832Kel tec owners group. Shit was a blast back in the day. There is something fun about taking a $200 kel tec and gunsmifing your way to success. >>65087845Ruger lately had been cutting corners. Them removing irons from the 10/22 was the last straw.
>>65089754They are literally adopting the LTT cut rn. I wouldn't be shocked if we see a product refreshment of all their optics cut 92s to have that pattern
>>65087795Literally reads off like an Indian used ChatGPT so it didn't just say "Bloody benchod bastard, why you make this lie?!". Send production to a shit country you get shit quality.
>>65087871Me
>>65088066Because they are so irrelevant they aren't worth shitting on mostly. I like the FNX45, but I think they stopped making it and I also don't shoot 45, so basically they stopped making the best gun in a caliber that I don't use. They suck but who cares
>>65088136Their revised revolver line started rough but by all accounts is fine now and we'll received. If I was gonna buy a new revolver I'd probably buy a Colt, some of their pricing can be pretty great as well. Problem is, I already bought basically all the revolvers I want and they are also Colts, just older production ones lol
