Post cool, atmospheric, /k/ pictures depicting the 1945-1991 period. Paintings also appreciated.
>>65089576How'd pic rel even get off the drawing board?
>equipment set to random
>>65091200Cool picture
>>65090209Because the answer to everything is to nuke it.
>>65091202>Gloster Javelin be like "hold up guys wait for me!"
>>65091200Austrians playing opfor?
>>65091267that's a comically oversized recoilless rifleif I saw that in a movie I'd have booed the props guy
>>65091269bigger :3
>>65090209>Air Force has nukes>therefore, we must have nukes, too
>>65091404I don't know if it's a trick of perspective, but that armoured car looks smaller than the Rover
Combloc kino
>>65091267what vehicle is that
>>65091200This is 70s yugoslavia, ja?
>>65092391austria, 1958
Did you know, Germany has a desert? Kind of? In Lieberose, created through a large forest fire in the 1940s and then decades of military training. Anyway, here's some East German AT team training in it.
>>65091406You think the Army was weird with the nuclear artillery (155, 8", 11" and several flavors of unguided rockets plus the Crocketts and SADM/MADM), you should see what the Air Force wanted before SLBMs were developed. Seaplane strategic bombers.Oh, and the Mk 101 Lulu nuclear depth charge, which had no safety interlock and would detonate if the aircraft carrying it had to jettison it, or if it rolled off the deck of a carrier.
>>65092457Interesting, thank you, anon.
>>65092484Luv me some cold war M60.
>>65092526I had to look it up because I figured it was an image from Angola or something.
>>65091673I see those swastis you little sneak
>>65092498>nuclear depth chargespeaking of which
>>65090209>>65092498>>65093583Any good books about this topic bros?
Not a military/war pic, but goes very hard.
>>65091269I figure since the Ferret is so hefty and surprisingly quite low it's not too bad, even if it looks ridiculous.>>65091404I love recoilless rifles so much>>65091426>>65092367Ferrets are quite small, they're pretty similar in size to Landrovers. A bit wider but a bit less long than the LWB Landy. I suppose outside the UK they are best known as the basis for the Fox armoured car.
>>65095379For a size comparison. I think they're a really neat vehicle but deserved to be upgunned. A 20mm cannon would have done wonders for them against Soviet stuff like BMP, BDRM and BTR series vehicles. Worth pointing out that even the BDRM is significantly bigger though.
>>65095391Also the Nepalese put a twin 14.5mm on top of them. One of the great British export vehicles from when we actually made things.
>>65091200Reminds me of home. Mix of everything.
>what do you mean it's out of batteries?
>>65094430>nuke artillery>Any good books about this topic bros?If there were, pretty sure the launcher of the nuke artillery wouldn't be the author
>>65095754This is from 2010s just in b&w? I had exactly the same gear 15 years ago.
>>65096571You didn't have M/61 gas mask, as those were sold off as rubbish in early 2000's. RK and geiger counter prolly were the same, don't think the 60's suit and gloves were used either. The look though is kinda the same, you can do protective gear only in so many variations.
>>65095379>>65095391I don't think anyone gave a damn whether they were Ferrets or Foxes, you didn't need to squint to tell they were more or less the same chassist. outside of UK>>65095397>One of the great British export vehicles from when we actually made thingsthe post-Cold War peace dividend destroyed bong industry altogethersadI liked Alvis and Shorts
>>65096733We had m85 combat belts in 2014. And that damn rubber suit looks very familiar too. You're right about the gas mask tho.
>>65097082Since that pic is from the 80's or so, I'd say it's the M/63 suit, since it doesn't look like the thinner M/86 disposable suit, nor the heavy M/85 suit. And the M/2000 and M/2010 suits weren't designed yet. But knowing the Firma, conscripts might get old shit to train with/ruin, so that good stuff stays in storage. Especially when in 2010's there was budget cuts.
>>65097051I mentioned the Fox only because most people on this board only really know weapons/vehicles from video games and the Fox is represented in Warthunder.Bong industry got destroyed mostly by Thatcher, even before the end of the cold war it was on a big down slope. Really there are a million factors better discussed on /pol/.A lot of it still does exist MIC wise, just in different subsidiaries and minor consulting businesses that have rebranded.So BAE systems has Vickers, Marconi, Vosper Thornycroft among others. Folland became Hamble Aerostructures. Royal Ordnance factories are now BAE as well. Alvis who you mention became part of BAE as well. Generally a lot of the old company towns basically still exist, working in the same facilities with the same people often. For BAE there is a good map of it here: https://heritage.baesystems.com/
>>65097196>For BAE there is a good map of it here: https://heritage.baesystems.com/oo thanks>destroyed mostly by ThatcherI do not agree.Privatisation is something of a last resort for the government to deal with inefficient government sectors, and it makes a lot of sense because in the government, often the people put in charge of those sectors have zero experience in those sectorsconsider:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Gallagher>studied politics>social worker>zero work experience in finance>Finance Ministerworks the same way as taxpayer-funded bailouts for private companies, except in reverseThatcher basically gave these departments their last chance at not fucking up, and they fucked up yet again.and other nations' defence industries were decimated by the end of the Cold War too, including the US's
>>65097236>I do not agreeI don't expect you to, I was grossly oversimplifying for sake of laziness and avoiding hijacking the thread too muchIt's partially what I was alluding to with >really there are a million factors better discussed on /pol/Thatcher is one element of those and whilst I sympathise with the argument of dealing with inefficiency (and I fully agree with the idea of people in charge being completely unqualified in most cases) I don't think privatization was the best solution in a lot of cases because effectively we parted out critical national industry to whoever wanted it and it caused massive post-USSR tier socioeconomic issues in the affected regions (which were also a result of privatization).tl;dr I guess when the people in charge are incompetent retards fire them all and put competent people in place. A strong "guiding hand" would have been more effective than simply binning the whole thing off imo.I agree about other nations MIC being decimated, I'm not saying the UK was immune to that but rather pointing out it was already ballsing up massively beforehand (L85 being a great example) and needed the aforementioned kick up the arse/change of leadership.
>>65097483In fact, the success of some of the privatized organisations really goes to show that actually with competent management actually being enforced they were salvagable. The BAE heritage tree or a look at Royal Mail can give you a few notable examples.It isn't that the business itself was unsalvagable (and thus deservedly needed selling off), it needed a shake up.Selling off the RMAS is a great example of where this bit us in the arse, since now we are paying Serco out of pocket for services previously done in house. Whilst the privatization argument is "well they're a business so will limit inefficiency" the other argument is that they have a defacto monopoly and absorb inefficiency with exorbitant costs and a profit motive of delivering the bare minimum required whilst extracting as much as possible.I don't have all the answers and don't pretend to, but that's my two pence.
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>>65091267Noddy car.
>>65097512If anyone has more pictures from this set please share, they're some of the best shots of the cold war imo.
>>65097527cold war Swizz went hard
>>65097527Black and white Mirages? SEEEXTurns out it was a pair of farewell schemes for the planes in Swiss service.
>>65089576Early Cold War aesthetics are the best, especially Korea
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>>65091200If you want blue only random equipment look up some of portuguese fighting in africa>Mfw Will never be holding my AR-10 while a Puma drops off a new squad, with a thunderchief doing attack runs on some niggers
I love early Cold War jets like you wouldn't believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2C7ZV3OdE&t=98s
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>perkele, if these chains jump off one more time i'll sink this bike into a swamp...
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>>65089576Appalachia, circa 1945Cool story, brah
>>65097750>when nuking stuff 50 km away was still a valid optionI miss the Cold War like you wouldn't believe.
>>65092498Saddam :D Madam :D
>>65098721Only that vdvshnik looks like he has any interest at all in being there kek.Somewhat historically accurate I guess.
>Soldiers of the Dutch 11th Engineer Battalion forward deployed south of Hamburg at the peak of the Cuban Missile Crisis, late October 1962.>L-R, Sgt Ernst Bachet, PL Delmee, unknown,behind him Visser, Kees Los, in turret - gunner Hans de Haas (cameraman; Ben van Laar)
>>65098739You can add or take away 100 years from that photo and Appalachia won't have changed.
>>65094430>>65097745>>65097762>>65097777I will never understand why faggots on this board froth so hard over the Swiss. Literally no Swiss person in living memory, no one since 1847, has participated in any kind of combat operation. Their entire military and their entire country are a bunch of larping fucking faggots. The person you're salivating over is an 18 year old conscript boomer who probably went on to work some mundane shit job at a bank and is scared of the albanian gangsters wearing fake Canada Goose down jackets who loiter around the train stations in Zurich.
>>65098721Would have looked so much better if they lined up the soldiers with their flags but the Pole and East Germ being at opposite ends is quite funny.>>65105074The only person frothing about the Swiss here is you. Maybe a tourist like yourself can't understand it but the only interest here is aesthetics, nobody cares about muh ideology or how many wars they were in.Contribute to the thread or fuck off.
i like the 70-80s pics of dutch conscripts and their ridiculous haircutsmadlads had nationwide protests to keep their luscious locks
>>65091202>>65091242>Gloster JavelinReally underrated jet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kpl8yovlwQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_JL-8ZynJQ
>>65105191What is this gay little creature
Here's some weekend warrior Swedes. I'm half Swedish, I like their uniforms, I like their gear because it was unique, but I don't think they would have done very well in a war against the USSR (I don't mean 1v1).Sweden lost that special military touch with the death of Karl XII
>>65111520They also were only issued with two mags for their FALs. They were an absolute joke, like circus level joke
>>65114283Sweden lost their army in 1809.
>>65114304That was preceded by almost 100 years of complete and utter fumbling. The loss of Finland was the final nail in the coffin, but they were already dead man walking by that point
Indochina
>>65114286theres a video on youtube (Werk in de Winkel, 13:00) in which they list what they're taking to a week long exercise involving ~7500 men>750 beer kegs>10k sausages>20k crisp packets>20k candy/chocolate bars>15k liter worth of soda etc, and another 15k cans>125k beer cans>5000 liter hard liqour>100k boxes of cigarettessounds like a pretty fun circus
ZOMO & LWP chads get in here
>>65114722Fun, yeah, but not particularly serious.
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>>65114854>That guy who got run overReally did swerve to hit him.
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>>65091202>starfighter, my beloved
>>65117662Your beloved killed my beloved. I will never forgive the Starfighter.
>>65095352KGB?
>>65118939Cold War - on ice!
>>65092498The Seamaster was badass. But was a Navy initiative not USAF. You can tell because some helpful enlisted guy wrote NAVY in giant fucking letters on the side, BTW.
>>65094430The only book at all about the seamaster AFAIK is "strike from the sea". Pretty good read. Definitely makes you think that not only should they have kept the program going, but it might be worthwhile to look into an updated modernized design of the thing even today. It's kind of like an amphibian B-1 in terms of capability. Primarily designed to be a very high speed low altitude penetrating mine layer
>>65118980>fak u snow
>>65105074Did a Swiss steal your girl or something?
>>65119011>we should, like, melt it.
>>65118980Capturing an ND in historical archive, nice.
Just finished reading a book about the Military Liaison Missions in Germany after WW2. Crazy stuff, basically legalized spying.American and British officers used to tear around East Germany in souped up cars with a license to ignore traffic regulations trying to outrun Stasi agents and photograph new soviet equipment. Occasionally they would visit sites where soviets had exercised and dig through the trash, finding all sorts of notebooks, journals and even technical manuals (!) Russian officers had just thrown away.Stasi agents in turn would routinely try to run them off the road and complain to the Russian senior officers about them, who apparently enjoyed telling the Stasi to fuck off.
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>>65119748damn, wild to think that they had a loicense that allowed them to fuck around freely as long as they could avoid being crushed by Ivan chasing them on a fucking truck
pic of vid showing kamikaze pilot running on wing to jump off before plane this US ship
>>65119713What was the name of the book?
>>65121081BRIXMIS and the secret cold war
>>65114286Dude the Australian Army in Vietnam used to go into battle with 2 magazines for their FALs.40 rounds per rifleman and 200 rounds for the M60 gunners.
>>65111520I think muttonchops need to make a return.
>>65121031>gets smashed into port side like a bug on a windshield
>>65089576I got some pins man.
>>65105074The Swiss shot down some Germans and Americans overflying their airspace in WWII IIRC.
>>65121213Thanks
>>65096571pls gib rk 95
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>>65089576EG
>>65089576more EG
>>65089576big yahu himself
>>65089576>from Kabul, with love
>>65089576early ak-74 pics
>>65089576masketa man
>>65090209>no bucks, no buck rogersMoney.
>>65095379When I was in, less than ten years ago, the Australian Army still had at least two working Ferrets
>>65121031>cold war
>>65123418is this special forces or something?
>>65105074Doing nothing is better than dying for isreal
>>65123216https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FILxoQyKzDg>>65123391NO! Valmet's and Sako's will be melted or deactivated into solid metal bodies. Magwells might have to destroyed, because you can't weld plastic into steel. Or try to find some steel mags that can be deactivated and welded into the gun. We must keep the Union and the country secure!>>65123421Wasn't this guy some westerner that got hold of stuff when the wall came down and did a book about it? Or magazine?>>65123726Apparently Diensteinheit IX, but it has been debated whether this is pre- or post wall falling.
>>65123936>Valmet's and Sako's will be melted or deactivated into solid metal bodiesyo... what?
>>65121226They traveled light but not that light. Especially with intentionally keeping patrol groups very small, often nothing more than a single squad, no one else
>>65125299Yeah, none of of these terrible weapons will be given to civilians. So that civilians will be secured and EU will be secure.
>>65125331i may have to kill finland for this
>>65125400Oh noo....Pls nuke me...
>>65089585Did people in East Germany have any faith or strong convictions towards the country? I have always felt like it was Germans who lost the geographic lottery and were all just politely going along with the status quo and when someone would get uppity people would just say "shh go along with what we are doing, otherwise the fucking Soviets are gonna come back".
>>65126336You just asked the million mark question. The simple reply is "it depends": the vast majority of the populace just went along with it (particularly after the 50ies) but individual feelings and ideology varied greatly. There was indeed a hardcore nucleus of "true believers" (like in most cases) even beyond the Soviet standard, but general economical failure and gerontocracy in the SED caused widespread disaffection. But it's Germans, they will keep obeying and trudging on out of sheer autism despite the place collapsing around them (like in 1945 or nowadays in bigger cities).If you're asking the NVA specifically, I've encountered the weirdest psychological phenomenon in speaking with veterans: they swear that it sucked and it was awful, but at the same time they were kinda certain that they would have performed better than their Wessies counterparts and even the Soviets if shit went down. Don't ask me why.
>>65126336they were largely ambivalent/indifferent, most of them had some sort of conviction in the idea (socialism) but they viewed the SED as a bunch of corrupt, self-serving cronies. This inherent cynicism in Ossis (Germans as a whole, really) also made them resistant to the rose-tinting effect other Eastern Euros had towards western western European capitalism, they by and large understood that capitalism wasn't a magic problem solving pill, and more importantly gauged the benefits of their socialist economic philosophy (no unemployment, no crime, social safety net for everyone, guaranteed living standard baselines) against the more unpredictable western system. So the result was that in 1989 Ossis were one of the few populations beyond the iron curtain that viewed the west with some suspicion, and also didn't favor reunification with the BRD.
>>65089679Where is this photo from?>>65123889This
>>65126628So the German people knew their leaders and their ideology was not capable of handling changing time, yet they firmly wanted to remain "socialist and sovereign" in spite of having little faith in their system's future.Brainwashed retards, every communist should be shot on sight. The Severity Order and Commissar Order of 1941 were correct.
>>65127168Genosse, you fell for obvious bait. Would you believe anything coming from the official DDR news agency in 1989? By then, the system was already completely crashing down and the SED failed in both internal renovation, social control and economical performance.One could argue if the unification was well managed (not that you'll ever find a German that will admit of failing at something, they're almost Asian in their pathological lying) but that's another matter entirely. Post pics instead.
>>65112030Brit conscript or cadet with an M72 but also interestingly with scrim made from vehicle netting rather than burlap and still using tan P37 webbing (which is why I suspect cadet).
>>65127300>the official DDR news agency in 1989Here's a survey made by western German press agencies.There was also an AP poll but apparently the link is down.The simple reality is that Ossis in 1989 didn't have high trust in reunification, they didn't hate their system, and it wasn't crumbling. They simply had no trust in their ruling politicians or the lack of transparency in their government and media.
>>65097763i wish i got a picture, but i saw something like this in afghanistan. A marine EET group had their afghans weld steal plates around the back of a 7-ton and put a mound of sandbags in the back, with 4 Dshk and 10 PKM's mounted or something like that. They called it the Pirate Ship. Any time one of our patrols or one of theirs came into contact that hunk of shit would roll in just sending lead everywhere. The purest form of Marine and afghan engineering i've ever witnessed.
>>65129806Ye olde gun truck is a time-honoured tradition.
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>>65123412Im not entirely sure this qualifies
>>65127300>been got by propaganda If I did, it was because of how believable it is for something like that. I tend to assume the worst of communists, as any sane individual does
>>65092498>Oh, and the Mk 101 Lulu nuclear depth charge, which had no safety interlock and would detonate if the aircraft carrying it had to jettison it, or if it rolled off the deck of a carrier.
Lynx reconnaissance vehicle
Leopard 1
Electric Voodoo
Cougar AVGP
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pmub
>>65149269gorge
>no, you can't go to the cantine. now fuck off back to your bunk.
>>65149680I've always wondered in that pic why is there a pile of horse shit randomly on the left?
>>65149706bong parades have horsesfamed for it
>>65149706How do you know it's horse shit?
>>65119008somewhere in german archives is the counterpart called>cia officer picturing stasi
>>65150046what were the downsides of the A-4 Skyhawk?I see it held up as a paragon of minimalist aircraft design, which is fine, but this must have involved tradeoffs
>>65114722wat een bende lullos
>>65121031webm
>>65091673pinheads
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>>65097723choose your difficulty
>>65143591When you're in the Village People and half of the members died of AIDS.
>>65095379I remember seeing a turreted Ferret in my local veteran's day parade (they let British expat veterans join), a Honda civic is bigger.
A Swedish and a Finnish peacekeeper in Cyprus (I think).
>>65149673looks like dcs with a filter
>>65152058Tell me is this from Finland or from Tarkov?
Answer me this: Did the Soviets really never try to get involved in Northern Ireland?
>>65149269Cutie
>>65150353looks like he was too low, went right into the fireball, and I recall he ended up on the deck of the ship
