Thoughts on flying wing kamakazi drones?
>>65094029Nigger faggot im only talking about the concept. It hasn't been tried yet.
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>>65094015I think you're starting to negate the advantages of cheap drones. Now you need better flight stabilization systems. Eventually you may as well just invest in a properly designed missile. Or an aircraft which can launch missiles of their own.
>>65094038I'm not even sure what the point of a wide flying wing is if you aren't making a stealth drone. I get that delta wing drones are much more compact than conventional winged designs, but that doesn't apply to something shaped like a b2/b21. Why not just use a nice simple straight wing at that point?
>>65094029yes >>65094033stfu Abdul >>65094038implying they can>>65094046less drag can be traded into more range or bigger payload, so it's smart to remove useless control surfaces regardless of stealth
>>65094067If a flying wing was the best way of minimizing drag then we'd see that in commercial aviation which is obsessed with fuel efficiency. Instead, every big aircraft looks like pic rel. Not a single flying wing to be seen outside of military aircraft trying to minimize their radar profile.
>>65094079>fluid dynamics is wrong cause the shareholders said so I can't even explain to you how retarded you are. Of course when you are a company you have to accommodate for other things such as safety, passenger space, airport designs, back compatibility, mechanic training ect ect that doesn't invalidate my statement you dumb fucking clown. It's so efficient that even Airbus is actively studying the concept
>>65094079Comercial aviation is unwilling to spend money in technology that someone else isn't using already, they are way more obsessed with minimizing risk that maximizing fuel efficiency.That said, the specific problem with flying wings in commercial aviation is actually seating arrangements, as it's easy to spread dozens and hundreds of people along a cylinder so that they are not too far away from the nearest window and exit, but inside a flying wing you have to clump them together in a shape that's probably not optimal for pressurization. That is not a problem for military aircraft that have 2 or 3 crewmen at most, or don't have any people at all in the case of drones.>>65094038You can make naturally stable flying wings that don't need advanced stabilizing systens, it mostly depends on the location of the cg really.
>>65094079>flying wing was the best way of minimizing drag then we'd see that in commercial aviation which is obsessed with fuel efficiency.There is NASA Papers on flying wings desings, there are problems 1. Flying wing end with less wing loading this pushes efficient cruise altitude beyond 40000 feet and this beyond breathing height wtih oxygen mask, certifying passenger plane for these altitudes is PITA.2. Flying wings tend to have larger than allowed on airfields wingspan, can be somewhat fixed with folding wings it's PITA too.3. In Flying wings most passengers don't have window near. Today wer have screens but passengers still don't like no windows.4. Passenger layout in flying wing makes it very difficult to fit into passenger emergency exit time standards.
There are issues with flight stability, such as unexpected spins. However, perhaps it's time for the control technologies developed for aircraft like the B-2 to be applied to drones at a lower cost?
>>65094163>AirflopWake me up when Boeing does it.
>>65094015>most efficient design with the downside of low maneuverability It's perfect for long range drones and cheap solid state gyros allow expendable stability control.>>65094037Ho Ho Ho
>>65094313I hate Israel but Hezbollah drone footage has been trash, Ukraine raised the bar and Syria grade footage just doesn't cut it.
>>65094313you need help
>>65094272They all do retard, it's just that airbus is more serious about it it seems and Boeing isn't really in a position of innovation anymore since their planes aren't keen on flying properly
>>65094015The pickup launcher is pretty cool. I assume that it drives into the wind to launch it and the drone flies off the back.
>>65094079>if an aircraft that is properly redesigned so that it doesn't need lying software that flies it into the ground was the best way to do commercial aviation then we'd see that instead of the 737 MAX!>boeing can do no wrong!!!
>>65094037its Horten>>65094015wow, its not like this was someones hobby project already in the mid 1930s
>>65094029You're literally brown if you're from the US.
>>65094015>Toyota launch vehicle When we the samurai stop supporting them?
>>65094079Wtf are you talking about, they are incredibly efficient, but it's the second order effects that make them non viable commercially>Intense needed computer assisted controls (literally wasn't possible to safely and continuously fly before that)>Storage is more expensive and requires larger areas>Design is completely opposite how most high density airports are setup
>>65095308>literally wasn't possible to safely and continuously fly before thatJust because northrop had skill issues that doesn't mean everyone else had. The first fully stable airplane was the 1910 dunne d5 flying wing biplane. Delta wing hang gliders don't need vertical rudders either.
>>65095329Yes we had flying wing designs for decades and literally everyone of them was abandoned due to being intensely difficult to control. This is not news
>>65094015Makes a lot of sense. The Toyota costs about the same as a JATO rocket but it's near-infinitely reusable.
>>65095345>literally everyone of themDelta winged gliders and jets were abandoned now? Horten, lipisch and fauvel's gliders also flew fine, even the facetmobile is fully stable unlike the f117 that served as inspiration (which is a lot more unstable than the b-2 despite having a tail).
>>65094177Materials science issue. Make sapphire windows cheap and easy to clean and we can have transparent floors in the flying wings.
>>65095464>transparent floor >on airplanes I guess you are wayyy to autistic to understand why people wouldn't like it. But then let me introduce you to a new concept : you can't make random holes in a pressure vessel and expect it not to explode. Here's another concept : glass and crystals are very heavy and structurally weak compared to composites
