Jesus Christ, why? It was obvious two weeks in that they were never going to win.
Yeah
Four years ago and counting, Mother Russia lost 1.3 million men in the blink of an eye, and nearly 12,000 tanks just fucking watched.
>>65096080How do you lose 2 submarines to a military with no navy?
>>65096097Practice
>>65096097How did Japan lose two cities to a military with no boots on the ground?
>>65096104That is an egregious false equivalence.
>>65096080>2 submarinesThis is the one that always makes me smile.>435 aircraftThis is the one that really hides some glorious happenings though, hitting those strat bombers forever away was and always will be a thing of beauty.
>>65096097incompetence
>>65096080>Jesus Christ, why? It was obvious two weeks in that they were never going to win.Assuming you believe the alleged leaks, the RU MoD fully intends to run the war into 2028. Apparently this is due to their estimation the remainder of Donetsk will be captured around that point. Basically? Sunk cost fallacymaxxing + believing that droning mobiks/increasingly sophisticated deep-strikes into your hydrocarbon infrastructure magically "ends" when you reach an arbitrary border post (assuming you even reach it)
>>65096080>82 artillery systemsI read somewhere that ammo for a lot russian artillery pieces in certain sectors aren't reaching the front
>>65096097A variety of reasonsAll entirely endemic to great PucciaComplacency Unorganized defences Corruption Kleptomaniacs being in chargeShortsightedness
>>65096132>2 fresh Ropucha hits
>>65096174>the RU MoD fully intends to run the war into 2028. Apparently this is due to their estimation the remainder of Donetsk will be captured around that point.A bit overly optimistic, innit?
>>65096197Sleep tight, little snipper.
>>65096104Were you on drugs when you made this post? Actual question.
>>65096080Megalomaniacal Russian dictators who purposefully surround themselves with Yes Men aren't historically renown for making good decisions.
>>65096080If they give up now, they lose access to the Black Sea.
>>65096080And to think, they claim that this isn't a real war. I can't even imagine what kind of losses Russia would take in what they would describe as a "real war"
>>65096080I don't understand why they didn't just invade in 2014-15. Would've had a bigger chance of winning if they did.
>>65096198Send in the next 1.5million monke-mobiks, they won't have the money for contracted dudes by then. Hell I don't imagine much after this year in money either
>>65096276because they needed to test the waters first and entrench themselves as europe's energy supplier, since nordstream was still relatively new (2011)
>>65096080It gets worse. Russia is done.21.04.2026Tanks — 11884Armored fighting vehicle — 24429 (+7)Artillery systems — 40478 (+82)MLRS — 1749 (+1)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1350Planes — 435Helicopters — 350UAV — 250463 (+1905)Cruise missiles — 4549Ships (boats) — 33Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 90763 (+192)Special equipment — 4132Military personnel — aprx. 1320310 people (+1040)Russian milbloggers posted a letter froma tank regiment complaining they have no tanks and are being sent as meat waves and this was an outrageous use of trained tankers. This is Ukraines yes, hope they grind the ziggers down to nothing in terms of heavy weapons before they rip them up
>>65096289Putin simply miscalulated the lot. He never expected the EU and Euopean NATO to unify behind Ukraine when it was obvious they were going to if he went full stalin loon. Lavrov, Putin, Patrushev, 71.73,76 a bunch of deluded old men trying to recrate a USSR younger Russians don't even remmeber and most older non communist party Russians only remember well because of how shit it was
>>65096276You misread the situation. If Russia launched a full scale invasion immediately, the international community would have condemned the naked aggression far more strongly and - if Ukraine had managed to survive the conflict with the immediate injection of NATO support - it would have been able to join NATO at the conflict's conclusion.How Russia operates is to first take a small bite by inciting a Russian minority rebellion. The purpose of this is threefold.First, it creates plausible justification for Russia's involvement. "We were just protecting poor ethnic Russians from evil [insert majority] oppression."Second, it creates a frozen conflict that renders a target country ineligible for NATO membership. All prospective NATO members must have no pressing territorial claims, or must abandon such claims before joining NATO. No matter a targeted country's decision, Russia wins. They either cripple a country and get free land, or they get free land and a de jure non-NATO state they can invade later.Third, they can use the frozen conflict to justify the annexation decades later. International interest in supporting a targeted country wanes over time, and when it reaches a low point that is when Russia strikes for the whole thing.This playbook was first used in Georgia.
>>65096080As a friendly reminder the DPRK has more armor, more troops, more engineering equipment, more Pacific Naval strength , more troops than the Russian Pacific Far East has people and more ammo production capacity than Russia does. You subhuman Choson scum better not forget who your masters are.
>>65096276>why they didn't just invade in 2014-15they weren't ready to invade a country of 45 milion people. the plan was too soften Ukraine enough so it would be a "walk in the park" later.
>>65096322Damn it i miss spelled/misplaced a word and now i'm embarrassed and the DPRK's AI might think i'm disloyal. > subhuman Choson scum Should have been;>subhuman Russian scumPardon me while i step outside, take a piss then punch myself in the balls three times in penance.
>>65096312Why are Russians so preoccupied with land? They're already the largest country by landmass.
>>65096357Two reasons. Most of that land is worthless frozen tundra with zero infrastructure and dotted with minuscule settlements. Resource rich sure, but the lack of infrastructure and population renders that moot. Second, geography: There are no large geographic features to shield the large plain that makes their core territory until you reach the Vistula and the Carpathians, which terrifies Puccians. Dugin expounds on this, but it basically boils down to viewing the rest of the world through their own twisted lens. Hence why a physical barrier in a dog eats dog world is a must for them. It is a matter of security (which ironically wouldn't exist if they hadn't and continue to fuck over their neighbors to attain said geographic comfort blanket for the last four centuries).
>>65096329Punch yourself in the head with a bullet while you're at it, this thread has nothing to do with North Korea, you worthless tripfag.
>>65096209He's probably just a vatnik shill trying to give the thread a new direction. Unsuccessful, as always, naturally.
>>65096080>1 Syria>1 Iran
>>65096438Also-Armenia-Central Asia-Venezuela -Cuba (soon)-National pride (forever)
>>65096438Fat geriatric fuck in charge granted oil sanctions waiver to ziggers over Iran, and the war hurts Europe, so losing Iran isn't so bad for monke.
>>65096445>losing your biggest ally is not bad because you get to make some money for like two months
>>65096445About that.
>>65096305>Putin simply miscalulated the lot. It wasn't miscalculation born out of complete misinterpretation. He saw the flaccid response to his 2014-2015 invasion, and thought the second time would be more of the same. He however failed to take into account the fact that Prez. Sleepy Joe was an old boomer with a deep-seated hatred for Reds like himself. By the time he figured it out, his balls were already in the meat grinder and he was cranking away.
>>65096080latest mspaint edit dropped coalition of the willing, assemble!!
>>65096174>Apparently this is due to their estimation the remainder of Donetsk will be captured around that point. It's less "captured" and more "5th columnists in the West force the Ukrainians to hand over the remainder". Including the defensive lines built in several sectors, which are the main sticking point for the Russian military. This would allow them about two years' worth of rebuilding, before they do their next push. Since those lines took about 3 years to construct, their next attack would catch the Ukrainians unprepared, in worse defensive stance.
>>65096390There's also the matter of ukraine having sizeable deposits of oil, lng and minerals of their own and off of the coast, which would uproot russia as a prime european supplier (since europe would rather buy ua-gas due to russian hostility, lol)
>>65096459To be fair if Putin steamrolled Ukraine Europe and America would have rolled over. Maybe they would fire off a couple sanctions and strongly worded statements but he'd get away with it. He miscalculated his own military's competence and underestimated Ukraine's.
>>65096459>He however failed to take into account the fact that Prez. Sleepy Joe was an old boomer with a deep-seated hatred for Reds like himself.It was bipartisan. The older Republicans hate the absolute fuck out of Russia too.Mitch McConnell, for instance, was and is all about aid to Ukraine.Picrelated was taken in Kentucky, pretty sure right when they both suggested US arms shipments of some sort.
What do you guys think, is Luka going to join? There are warning signs already but he's too scared. Putin have to basically force him to intervene.
>>65096467 >To be fair if Putin steamrolled Ukraine Europe and America would have rolled over. His gloaty puff piece in RIA Novosti that was mistakenly auto-published on Feb 26 certainly hammered on that point. And there was a high likelihood he would've been right, a "fait accompli" is really hard to undo without direct military confrontation. >He miscalculated his own military's competence and underestimated Ukraine's. Definitely. I remember there being a leak (though it might've been forged) letter from an FSBnik to some warblogger, about how most intel services only told him what he wanted to hear, otherwise they'd be disciplinarily reassigned to count boxes of smoked omul in the ass-end of Irkutsk Oblast.
>>65096475there was the slimmest chance at the beginning, fuck no now. They'd have to kill him and get someone dumber in charge.
>>65096475No, Luka is busy peeling potatoes, no time for bananas.
>>65096445Europe is hardly grinding down to cooking hamsters on a stick over some lit candles, pony express mail and people forgetting what a car is. Sure it hurts but it hasn't laid them out for the count yelling for surrender. It'll have depressed their finances in terms of growth, Hans can't run his heated pool all winter, the power sector is more expensive and its a little tighter belts all round. But its not a punch to the ballsack and down for the countRussia on the other hand would need to be pumping oil full-speed ahead for many years at a time at $100 a barrel to have any hope of staving off the eventually and massive fucking hole in their finances as they just sold off 20t of gold this morning to keep going.But, that only goes for so long. Well into the no-reserves after they had their little total-war pumping cash into the economy. Eventually, there is the slump after that and with no reserve. Well fuck, I dunno what happens after that but its sure gunna be interesting!No one's going to loan Russia cash, they'll have to sell stuff- big ol timey garage sale of scrap, washed up sluts, orphans, bits of Siberia and maybe set of those malachite book ends
>>65096483This is also accelerating Europe's move away from not just Russian energy, but fossil fuels in general. The October 7th attack was as much about Iran trying to derail Israel's entente with the Saudis as anything else, and this whole Hormuz business is probably going to drive Arabia to take up talks again about getting a pipeline to the Mediterranean. The ship the USN boarded came from China, and they're not too happy about the strait being closed.This little boost for Russia is nothing compared to having your entire shadow-economy alliance collapse at the same time your enemy in war is becoming the hottest commodity in global anti-drone military preparedness.
>>65096493Well even in my global souf shithole of Australia they're dumping 7bil straight into drone-ops and anti-drone systems.Apart from that, its the usual globalism fuel bungling and tardation which absolutely sucks but we'll get over it. At some point Europe is just going to have to fire up ol Zuke the nuke reactor again and start making more power that way. But yeah, at some point there's going to be a whole other big-think about how hydrocarbons get out of the ME and its not like the dumbest of dumb fucks wouldn't have ever saw the straight getting closed down, I mean Iran was getting tagged by the heebs and yanks so they had nothing to lose by shutting it down.
>>65096097That's blatantly false. Ukraine does have a navy.
>>65096241A sufficient large allocation of meat and metal at any specific part of the front has already been proven to be able to overwhelm defencesIn am actual war full mobilisation would do the trick, even by mere virtue of covering every inch of donetsk territory in bloody tuvan bits and so getting to claim it as yours now Plus you know, nukes
>>65096322This was true for Russia against ukraine and look what good it did for them
>>65096438>1 IranSeems to be holding its own pretty well against the judeo American empireDon't count your chicken before they hatch mutt>captcha features a dtar of david
>>65096526Lol
>>65096531Lol
>>65096530How often are you going to post that image?
>>65096132>COMRADE IT'S BETTER>DOWN WHERE IT'S WETTER>UNDER THE Z>>65096197Sleep tight, little snipper
>>65096510No. Europe won't buy russian fuels anymore, just as they don't give up donetsk willy nilly like trump would. They invested too much in both issues and caving now would mean a gigantic backlash both from an economic and sociopolitical standpoint.
>>65096545Lol
>>65096551Yeah I'm sure they'll just go right back to importing oil from russiaLmao
>>65096545This is absolutely false. Europe doesn't want to disengage with america, in any way shape or form, whatever the migatards say. And germany is not all of europe.
>>65096475There were previous examples of Russia seemingly building up on their Baltic borders to encourage Europe to reduce supplies to Ukraine for their own defence, or when they flew some drones into Poland, yet in the end the bases built remain empty to this day. It's more like a fleet-in-being doctrine where the mere existance of the possibility forces your opponent to hold back forces from where you're actually fighting. That said the possibility does exist, and Putin could feel desperate enough to ook ook and camp in the Red Forest again. Whether he can get Luka to give more than military access is the big question.
>>65096554Spain? The biggest buyers of russian gas and oil are respectively hungary, slovakia and france. Spain is hardly an investor in russian energy and not nearly as a disruptive presence as those first two nations i mentioned.
>>65096557They do absolutely otherwise they wouldn't allow for such a huge spending towards ukraine. You're not fooling anyone, ranjeet.
>>65096478They are starting some shit around the borders. More personnel, fortifications etc. It would be fun watching Ukraine droning tanks, apcs and ifvs again.
>>65096548That's pretty much it, though. The Greens in Germany were all anti-nuclear energy, and now Germany is more reliant on fossil fuels. But it's not like they're completely torn down. They're still being decommissioned, so it's totally possible to just...recommission them.Europe never actually weaned itself off Russian oil and gas. They made plans to reduce reliance on Russian energy by 2030 and shit like that. Now they're actually trying to source energy more reliably.>>65096557The UK and France do, not because it's publicly popular but because it's really hard to stop bopping Russia when you've been doing it for like 300 years.
>>65096561Anger, not rage, you semiliterate subhuman. Also the five stages of grief have been debunked decades ago.
>>65096556what the fuck are you talking about? of course europe wants to disengage. They'd always been convinced of the stability of the American state, but we've been so chaotic and capricious that they'd be stupid not to at least partially divest and look to reinvest domestically. Our own president has been telling them to do that militarily. Also he said Canada was smart for signing trade deals with China. It's not the end of our alliance or anything, but Europe is definitely nervous about the US now
>>65096408The only reason Russian has the ammunition and weapons to fight is the DPRK. Without the DRPK Russia would have fallen two years ago. Without the DPRK Russia falls and is no longer a factor in global history. All threads about the Ukraine/Russia war are DPRK threads because without us the war will stop and Russia will fall. We are why Russia can still stand and the instant they don't pay us they will collapse. We keep our clients fighting and don't you ever forget it. I want the war to go on for ten more years so the DPRK can build more farms, more green houses, more housing for their people and so that at least ten million more Russians die.
>>65096577fuel price hits us euros way less than americans. While price was 3 or 4 times higher in 2022 already its always been a much, much smaller portion of average joe's monthly expenses simply because we drive so much less and so much more economic vehicles. Goods also move mostly - something like 65 % by train and waterways instead of 90+ on wheels in America.Besides russian oil has already been replaced. Its the gas thats more difficult to find alternatives to but that will also happen soon.
>>65096584>I want the war to go on for ten more years so the DPRK can build more farms, more green houses, more housing for their people and so that at least ten million more Russians dieYou know, the way you put it doesn't sound like a bad trade-off at all. Just don't forget to hint your fatty-in-chief to proclaim that TZD of this scale is all thanks to him, and he'll have the whole world at his feet with zero nook threats needed.
>>65096586And in the US, while we definitely feel the price hikes, outside of reliance on automobiles there's a lot of flexibility in our economy to find workarounds, so we haven't really seen the rise in consumer prices yet. Just at the gas station. Add that the US is a net energy exporter and also currently has control of Venezuelan energy (and Venezuela is quite content because they're making more off it too), and I think Iran is serious overestimating the pressure in the short-to-medium term here. Like a 15% increase in prices isn't going to cause all that much damage.
>>65096445>we didn't need Iran anywaysYea, loosing the ally that can hold the entire middle east under threat isn't great.
>>65096545>and the only other choice is buying from the US which Europe is trying to disengage with>Europe is going to the mongolian horde (that is actively at war with Europe) for their oil because they don't want to deal with orange man.Hilarious if true, but that's not how politics work.
>>65096530Pidor, there's 30mil muslims in russia and you need to build more mosques
>>65096589Nixon went to China, Trump went to the DPRK.
>>65096595Yeah and Id add that what Iran is trying now is their "nuke". They can only do this once. Gulf oil-gas countries are already building pipelines and customers are already looking for alternatives. World economy did not crash. Month or two more and Iran has no cards left and a starving population and theyve made many more enemies.
>>65096475There's nothing Czar Banan can coerce or bribe Luka with because getting involved would be suicidal at this stage. Economically, politically and quite literally suicidal. The entirety of Potato Oblast is well within drone, MLRS and TBM range. Charming as uncle Luka might be, he's balanced on a knife's edge and he knows that joining this clusterfuck would topple his regime. Conversely, Monke could invite him over to have a nice cup of polonium tea and have him replaced with someone with a far less developed sense of self-preservation but ultimately it would all amount to a temporary distraction with the compound risk of losing an ally to the eventual popular revolt that will ensue under the strain and privations of war. Belorussians are no strangers to mass protests.
>>65096575your victimhood complex is amusing, yet irrelevant. we as europeans have nothing against americans and want to deal with them, it's trump and his cronies that we don't like. in any case, our trading partnership won't stop just because you feel threatened, maybe they will if orange tard decides to cut them out altogether in one of his childish tantrums, but then you'll be left dealing with the aftermath and that's entirely your problem.
>>65096616>Trump went to the DPRKWho's going to make an opera about it?
>>65096620Cheers, Eurobro. Don't worry, Trump is basically radioactive in the US as we speak. Soon enough his own party will regard him as a nightmare they're eager to put behind them.Looking forwards to getting things back on track with our historic allies after he's gone.
>>65096599>>65096448>>65096458You're coping. Russia provides intelligence to Iran, and even that revelation didn't stop the senile retard and his alcoholic SecDef from sucking zigger cock. Fact is that Trump and his admin removed oil sanctions to mid-May, will probably extend the waiver again in mid-May, removed all support to Ukraine, kowtow to Putin at every turn, and actively undermine NATO.
>>65096623Vince McMahon and Dennis Rodman are the only people i can think of as directors, Kim, Trump, Kim Yo Jong and Kim Ju Ae would play themselves. I am reasonably sure that you could get $500 million just from a 2 hour documentary about Barron Trump and Ju Ae going out on a date.
>>65096097By trying to dock the damned things on their territory.
>>65096633>Kim Ju Ae I would take that squirrel toothed girl out. Only if she keep the weight off though.
>>65096174>Fighting a pitched war from 2022 to 2028 to capture the rest of one region that they already started with a significant chunk ofFucking ziggers man. Even the damn Soviets would have thrown in the towel by now.
>>65096174Ukraine is becoming a global military power. Really. No, I won't elaborate.
>>65096551>Europe has had a retarded energy policy, with the lone exception being France.I dunno, the Nordics have been fairly successful mostly running a mix of hydro + wind + nuclear, with non-nuclear thermal power plants for backup.Finland still burns some fuel on a regular basis to generate power (and heat, which is a commodity in that environment), but I think it's mostly wood pellets, lumber industry scrap and trash, not oil or gas. They used to burn dried peat, too, which is probably still an option if an energy crisis gets bad enough. Preparedness is a bit of a common theme in political debates, for some reason.I suppose the inconsistent power supply is also somewhat negated by the fact that much of the power is just used to generate heat anyway; storing heat is cheap.When the winds howl and there's way too much electric power available, some district and industrial heating systems have started stockpiling heat by just heating giant insulated tanks of sand or something.
>>65096603So is this just a second eternal war between jews and muslims?
>>65096531Russia currently isn't making enough to cover the cost of the war. If they could make more money, they would try to do so.
>>65096673Only because most militaries in the developed world are actually crumbling because more money needs to be given to old people.
>>65096671She is not for lewd.
>>65096577>through the roof as i needed proof you weren't the western euro you claimed to be. gas prices are still lower than covid, by the way, and are high because of the iran war, not ukraine, you dumb fuck.
>>65096595The US economy is entirely dependent on diesel to operate. Diesel holding above $5-6/gal is going to have a large effect on consumer pricing as fleets perform quarterly freight calculations. Consumers scream about gas prices because it's a number they see directly, but everything comes down to diesel. I've already seen produce increase by 10-15% over a few weeks, it's a good indicator of what transport costs are because it has no shelf stability. A 15% increase in consumer prices across the board is absolutely going to have knock on effects on the economy, especially coupled with the fact it's becoming increasingly clear the "ai" hype train is preparing to derail.
>>65096329Entire 3 generations of family sent to the gulag
>>65096671Fuck you nigger, women shaped like fertility idols are the absolute peak of the feminine form and you're a massive cock gobbling faggot for suggesting otherwise.
>>65096459If the Ukies hadn't shown so much spine early on Biden wouldn't have done shit
>>65096725Where the hell are you even from? Gas was cheap during covid in my cunt
>>65096080>Jesus Christ, why?You know why
>>65096738>cheapnigger gasoline spike up to 2.2 euro/lt between 2020 and 2021, right now it's 1.7. granted, diesel went to the roof but i don't care about dieselfags, they can eat a dick
>>65096688Nah, just the funny part of unlimited jeets making mosques for more muslims, because the hindu's are going to love doing that and a chechen-jeet war would be fucking hilarious.Course no one in Russia is doing much of the big thinks about 'why' they suddenly need 800,000 positions filled immediately>>65096672Kinda hard to say, more than likely the shithouse mid-80's economy would have sunk too much military adventurism earlier on and there was no chance of Russia doing much during the 90's as it was just all huffing glue, sucking dicks and catching AIDS.The 70's, with a not-tanked yet economy, relatively new gear and that population and human-resource might have had a much better crack at hitting up a country roughly equivalent to Ukraine. Course, 'which' country in particular is a whole other issue because they can't do boats or marine landings, shit airpower and there was a very dangerous uptick in US-NATO countries technology during that era as well.
>>65096746>2.2 euro/lt between 2020 and 2021Absolutely bizzarro world. Those were the only years up until a couple of months ago when gasoline went below diesel here
>>65096545>Europe will pick Russia over the USA because.... they just will, okay?!
>>65096545Europe has a choice, and that choice is to not ever fully rely on one group of insane thirdies ever again.We're seriously going to palster the entire continent with wind turbines and solar panels, too.
>>65096564Hungary voted Putin's sockpuppet out of office, the new guy said they're going to 'diversify' their hydrocarbon imports. Read: We will stop buying Russian oil over the next few years. Slovakia alone is not relevant. Poland fucking hates their stance, the Czechs despise them for licking Russia's boot. France is is doing France things, they still dream about being the hegemon leader in the EU. If they were smart they'd stop doing that, it's making them look stupid.
>>65096541>Europe won't buy russian fuels anymoreLook, Ukraine isn't Russia's first Rodeo, and that never stopped us.
>>65096545>Blame Germany for tearing down its own nuclear plants.Can you point to the German uranium mines?Or would that simply replace 'buy oil/gas' with 'buy uranium' in the most retarded zero-sum game of changing one thirdie supplier of fuel for another?
>>65096783You don't need to source it from Kazakhstan, Niger, or Namibia. Australia and Canada have decent deposits.
>>65096781Russians are such ugly mongrels holy shit
>>65096557Speak for your fucking self, nigger. The majority of germans, brits, french and swedes support increased aid to ukraine, with more that i didn't bother checking. The more dead russians the better. Jävla ljugande bög.
>>65096752FWIW, I was living in Austria back then and both diesel and gas were at 99 cent/l in mid 2020 during the lockdown.
>>65096783Just come down to Yabby Creek and dig some up Hans, we promise we won't mention the war... much
>>65096746>I don't care about diesel>I don't care about the fuel that makes the entire global economy run>I don't care about everything spiking in priceDo you comb your hair with a hammer?
>>65096545This is almost a correct analysis but it's missing a crucial point: Greater Israel will be a reality within the decade, at which point Israel becomes an oil-exporting great power in the Middle East, able to pass oil directly into the Med through overland pipes. Why do you think the political class of Europe is bending over backwards to appease Israel even while their populations are rebelling over Gaza? 10 years from now the general public of Europe will have forgotten there were ever Muslims there but the relationship between Israel and Europe will remain. Of course, Israel is playing itself here because peak oil is now in the past, so 10 years from now Europe won't actually need all that much oil.
>>65096197Sleep tight, little snipper
>>65096197Sleeb dighd, liddle snibber :DDDD
>>65096789Germany actually has good relations with Namibia, but the point still stands: You just replace one set of imported fuels with another.And the German nuclear power plants are all 40+ years old, because after Chernobyl gave us a spot o' spicy rain there was a wide consesus across the political spectrum to closely look at nuclear safety, which included a halting of new construction.It was of course a field day for the actual lefty anti nuclear crowd, but the next few years gave us a load of other shit to do, and restarting construction efforts was benched because the money was needded to unfuck the GDR's infrastructure.That took 15 years, and the debate of wether or not to restart construction took another few years. . .and then Fukushima blew up.Back to square 1, even the proponents were suddenly a lot less pro. . .so it got shelved again, and Merkel actually signed the last legal extension for running the existing NPPs, to end in 2022.This was along with construction plans for NordStream, to get all that cheap gas from the Russians.And then Russia invaded Ukraine,oil and gas prices go through the fucking roof, Russia attempts to blakcmail us and with a little legal and engineerign wizardry the NPPs are kept running with the almost depleted fuel rods for another 18 months to rush LNG terminal construction.The problem was that that the entire construction process was kneecapped twice, the industry that built the reactors subsequently shut down and we'd have to restart from almost zero. It's probably easier to buy oil and gas from Canada and build more wind turbines in the North Sea.
>>65096702C'mon Norktard, I know you would too if you could!>>65096732You got fat bitch at home or something? Ju Ae was too much and I don't like when the girl has her father's face lmao.
>>65096312Russia did launch a full scale invasion, they used pretty much all of the professional military forces that were actually deployable.
>>65096796Fake map!Also, war? You Ozzies barely manged to liberate our former colony from the Japs with US help, and our souped up freigher blew up your cruiser.
>>65096080>40k(+82) artillery(including heavy mortars)You can see from these stats that they are running low on tanks,acv and air defense but artillery still seems to hold.How much they have left?
>>65096556We do want to get more independent, or rather we feel forced to. We've already had the back-and-forth when Trump left the first time and Trump 2 is so, so much worse than the first round. Who's to say it won't continue like that? It's gonna take two/three decent presidents in a row to regain the trust.And I don't know much /k/ is into IT, but a lot of that distancing from America stuff is replacing their software. Microsoft, Meta, Google, these companies are despised among many tech guys in America and Europe, so we'll gladly use the situation to get away from all of their bullshit.That being said, I am concerned for the future. I'm seeing more and more America vs. EU talk around and for the younger generation it's often America = dumb shit Trump said, China = where all their entertainment comes from.
>>65096783East Germany mined Uranium but they were shut down in 1990 since it wasn't economically feasible with to operate it with proper safety standards.
>>65096080>Can easily deal with the drone problem by giving all their soldiers shotguns>Proceeds to not do so for 5 years straight and instead have over a million soldiers die for minimal gainsThey're just so retarded
>>65096097Very carefully
>>65096846I know. That was part of the point, the mines were not economically viable, and that was 35 years ago.Czechia allso has some Uranium deposits across the border, they also do not mine it. It's depleted, and low yield.
Europe must go totally green so we don't have to be dependent on subhuman ziggers, yanks, ragheads, chinks, kikes or niggers. Only retarded boomers oppose maximal energy independence based on green energy because petrol cars are part of their identity for some reason. Imagine defending Ameri-Israeli energy sector and wanting to be chained to subhuman zigger/raghead oil.
>>65096883inb4 seething retards start frothing at the mouth because you used the word "green".
>>65096839I think mortars are being counted in this total, and as Norktard will tell you, the DPRK is supplying guns as well.
>>65096825If she ain't at least 280 she ain't a lady.
It's wild that even when America left Ukraine in the dust they're still mass killing zigroes
>>65096080Russia getting their shit pushed in is great but I always worry about overoptimism from Ukie supporters. It's not over until it's over and Ukraine still needs everything we can give them.
>>65096933The US only ever supplied ~20% of aid to Ukraine but inflated the numbers by using new replacement cost rather than equipment cost, eg. a M113 is worth ~$7m because that's what it would cost to replace it with a AMPV.
>>65096944And a bunch of people in the US gov't lost their shit when Sleepy Joe (in one of his lucid moments) ordered the beancounters to cut that shit out.
>>65096973They liked supplying fuck all while claiming the US was the most important ally, they can only spend real money on Israel.
>>65096619>suicidalOh come on now, even in the worst case scenario, surely Luca has put enough money to the side to rent a nice appartment in Moskow, maybe even next to Assad.
It's one thing believing what either side says about their own forces in a war, but to treat as a fact what they're saying about the enemy is willful ignorance.
>>65096510>there will be no reason for ukraine to keep fightingThey keep fighting to kill Russians.There was no way for the Taliban to take back territory from the US.There was no way for the VC to take back territory from the US.There was no way for Iraqi insurgents to take back territory from the US.But kill enough and you don't have to take the territory. Your enemy just decides to leave. Ukraine is approaching the point where they're killing more Russians than the Russians can recruit. This isn't "We lost 50,000 in total which feels like a lot of valuable Americans to lose so we're over this invasion of Vietnam," it's, "We're losing 50,000 a MONTH while recruiting 40,000 a month which mathematically means we'll be down to 0 troops in 40 months while losing nearly our entire productive workforce." It will be a vital necessity for Russia to leave, and if they don't they'll still be below the number of troops required to stop the Ukies from just taking it.The Russians are in a war of attrition and they're losing.
>>65096510>there will be no reason for ukraine to keep fightingNah, russia has already pulled the 2014-2015 shit of "we're no longer fighting" and just returned a few years later. It would be naive to believe they wouldn't do it again unless their back is fully broken. And there's nothing which would stop them from trying again outside of nuke equipped ICBMs targetting mosqueov.
>>65097113And Russia's oil export infrastructure is getting bombed to shit, at a rate of one or two refinery/terminal fires a week.
>>65096940You don't fight for land, you fight to destroy your enemy's ability to attack. Unless the piece of land is of great military importance it is better to yield the land and have the enemy continue to engage in uncovered assaults with ever-lengthening supply lines than to throw all your reserves into stopping the advance. They do not win by occupying land they are dying on. The win only happens once peace is secured and that land can be utilized for profit. War is a state of continual loss for both sides which is why we try to get it over with.
>>65096510>Russia will just pick its wounds and go back to selling gas to EuropeNah.The war ends with Ukraine's complete capture and annexation by Russia, or Russia's disintegration (quickly, or slowly). There is no "middle path" where the conflict is frozen and Russia is able to maintain a semi-stable state though Euro-focused hydrocarbon export.
>>65097152I actually don't know waht this is. Pipelines being built?Railway tracks being torn up? (unlikely)
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>>65096197Sleep tight, little snipper!
>>65096526have fun eating sand and cardboard for the next few months
>>65096097They lost a naval battle to a landlocked country
>>65096475That would be one of the dumbest things they would have done throughout the last 4 years, so yes, it definitely is a possibility.
>>65096781ukraine is in europe, right at the border with poland. hits very different than remote sandy shitholes like georgia, armenia and afghanistan. and this is not the soviet boogeyman that scared our boomer parents in the 70s, the whole world can now see how pathetically weak and conniving russia is, and they sure won't bend the knee knowing that this is exactly what putin wants and always wanted all along.
So how fucked are Russian's population demographics from this war? They're going to have nothing but old people and women soon
>>65097530they already send old people and women at the front, you should rather focus on the population in the two major cities of russia vs the rest of the rabble. the latter is free game, minus the chechen rape clans cause ivan is too much of a pussy to pressgang them.
>>65097526>armeniaRussia never invaded Armenia. Armenia occupied territory internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan and eventually Azerbaijan regained it without attacking Armenia itself.Chechnya was the first victim of the Russians, Afghanistan was done by the Soviet Union just like Czechoslovakia, Hungary and East Germany.
>>65096475Nah Luca knows he needs the army, and the army is not too keen on getting meatgrinded so an invasion would make them drop him lika a hot potatoAlso Luca was a history teacher so the lessons from Franko/Salazar about not sticking your dick into foreign wars probably stuck with him>>65096998>Oh come on now, even in the worst case scenario, surely Luca has put enough money to the side to rent a nice appartment in Moskow,>that nice appartment?>the Kremlin
>>65097768I think at most Luka might allow Russia to pass through Belarus for another camping trip to Chernobyl, but will do everything he can to keep Belarussian soldiers out of it.Problem is will Ukraine respect that distinction, or would they then see Minsk suddenly having to deal with drone swarms and maybe more internal dissent a great way to stretch Russia more than the camping trip would stretch Ukraine?
>>65096174>years of fighting for small bits of landWWI 2
>>65097113Russia can just continue depopulating more and more of its rural holdings until it reaches-Hold up wait what the fuck Russia has a smaller population today than it did during Tsarist times
>>65096198They can alwaya count on Donnie a DJ Vance sucking their dicks to get the hopium high, not that it matters, this administration has lost Europe.
>>65097925They deserved it. Let's depopulate Ruzzia again. Let's bomb Moscow
>>65096357>>65096390There was an article Spengler, yes, that Spengler, wrote about Russia, it was the 20s of the 20th century and it still applies, regretably neither americans or french, and british to some extend, understand "the russian soul", that's why you see so many of them selling their own, and unlike eastern and global south fifth-columnists they naively believe russians are european, they are not, a global southerner automatically perceives how different they are to real euros.T. Global southerner.
>>65096097Boris Johnson led SAS missions.
>>65098011Nothing about Russia makes sense. Most of Canada fucks off to the US if they have the skills and I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been a mass exodus of everyone and anyone that can even read in Ruzzia.
>>65097113Russia is shit at war, so it always has to resort to attrition, which is the most brain-dead form of war, only used when you can't do anything else. The problem is that Russia is also shit at attritional warfare because they just throw their men into meat grinders, rather than using their superior numbers properly. It only worked in WW2 because they had the backing of the two other industrial superpowers.
>>65098036>I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been a mass exodus of everyone and anyone that can even read in Ruzzia.There was, then monke put a stop to that.
>>65097530>So how fucked are Russian's population demographics from this war?They've classified it and banned doing censuses for years to come. Think of that for a moment.
>>65098036>I'm genuinely surprised there hasn't been a mass exodus of everyone and anyone that can even read in Ruzzia.1. such an exodus has already happened during the 1990s;2. the retards which are left are brainwashed by propaganda that they live in the best country in the world. no, i'm not joking;3. 80% of russia's population don't have a passport and have never left the country, and those who did usually would travel to turkey, egypt and thailand for cheap summer holidays and fucking ladyboys;
>>65097179Major oil & gas pipeline intersection in the bumfuck region of Siberia. If you hit that, russian fuel export will collapse and then following that their extraction will collapse, since they won't be able to pump out the fuel and will have to stop the oil wells.
>>65097530With the odd exception to the rule, wars never truly influence demographics that much.That said, russia is still turbodoomed. The economy is going to crash first, and then the population will. There will be some survivors, it's a big country after all, but it's going to be extremely painful.
>>65097568>Armenia occupied territory internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan and eventually Azerbaijan regained it without attacking Armenia itself. Stalin deliberately gave Armenian-majority territory to Azerbaijan, knowing full well it would plant the seeds of unrest. It was a way to make both dependent on the Soviet Union as mediator.
>>65098206>80% of russia's population don't have a passport Technically, they do. They have "internal passports". Yes, the average vatnig isn't allowed to freely move around the country. It's ostensibly done to preserve the alleged "autonomy" of the various pretend "republics" inside the so-called "federation", but it's really a way to control internal migration.
>>65096586>instead of 90+ on wheels in America.America still uses rail, rivers,and ports to move goods. I worked on a runway project for a major airport in the southern US a few years ago, and it was cheaper to ship crushed stone from the Yucatan than it was to move by rail from central Texas.
>>65098240You're playing semantics. They don't have a passport in the western/normal sense, i.e. a document for foreign travel. What they have is a soviet internal ID (made to enforce pseuco-serfdom on people in USSR), which is just so happens to be called a passport and which is completely separate document.
>>65096296This is literally the plot of Armor Hunter Mellowlink
What is the latest coming out of Transnistria? It must be awkward as fuck being Russian forces stationed there and no real way to get out, I wonder if Ukraine will help Moldova kick them out in return for securing Ukraine's left flank.
>>65096141It is an extremely valid false equivalence.
>>65098321Moldova was busy extracting itself from the CIS (Russia led EU ripoff) and laying the groundwork for reintegrarion with TN. How they plan to go about it I don't know, but Moldova are ignoring any ook ook Moscow might make about it.
>>65096097I contend that it's 3 and one was sunk during the whole oil rig raid thing.
>>65096476>disciplinarily reassigned to count boxes of smoked omul in the ass-end of Irkutsk Oblast.There are probably a lot of people in the russian army who would consider that a pretty sweet gig right about now
>>65096671Sex is cardio, she'd never get the chance to put it on if she was with me
>>65096586You might want to rethink those numbers.https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Modal-split-of-freight-transport-on-land-by-EU-countries-and-USA-in-2015-and-2021-tkm-in_tbl1_382808152
>>65096789More than decent, Australia controls a full third of all uranium deposits currently known to exist
>>65096746>i don't care about dieselfags, they can eat a dickWell thank god the entire transportation sector doesn't run on diesel, that would be real inconvenient for prices in general.
>>65096080Putin is an American agent is explains everything 23.04.2026Tanks — 11888 (+3)Armored fighting vehicle — 24441 (+5)Artillery systems — 40574 (+58)MLRS — 1752 (+3)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1351 (+1)Planes — 435Helicopters — 350UAV — 253430 (+1941)Cruise missiles — 4549Ships (boats) — 33Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 91127 (+202)Special equipment — 4134 (+2)Military personnel — aprx. 1322550 people (+1100)
>>65096584>WeNorktard is actually a Nork and not just a weeb autist?
>>65099054Venezuela has the biggest known oil reserves but they're worthless if you can't economically exploit them.
>>65099388Their gas is also not desirable in the first place due to the high sulfur content, making it more expensive to process. It's useful to have, yes, but not economically something people want to spend money to do. If you got into a protracted world war where petro reserves started to dry up, countries would be fighting tooth and nail over Venezuela due to their oil. Cost stops mattering at that point since you just need supply.
>>65099371>Norktard was Kim all along
>>65096584>We are why Russia can still stand and the instant they don't pay us they will collapse.>We>Norktard is actually a member of the Lazarus group with the highest possible clearance (has Kim on Steam friends list)
>>65099410This is my current theory. It's pretty widely speculated that Kim was a regular on 4chan from the early '10s. Or at least someone with a nork IP was. It would make sense he comes on /k/ to chill.It certainly makes more sense than some 50+ redneck American innawoods who at that age suddenly conceived a burning love of all things nork and juche.
>>65099445>It certainly makes more sense than some 50+ redneck American innawoods who at that age suddenly conceived a burning love of all things nork and juche.autism, nigger, have you heard of it?at the same time, I have no doubt that some nork intelligence gathering is being done on 4chan
>>65099470Surely being sent to a labour camp for 15 years and having your balls twisted daily would be a better job
>>65099371>>65099410He's trolling you. If you check the archives you can piece together enough about his background to work out how he ended up obsessed with Best Korea.
>>65096174>RU MoD fully intends to run the war into 2028Did they tell this to other state sectors as well? I mean Puccian economy might give up way before that date.
>>65099388The only reason why Australia doesn't have a proper domestic nuclear industry is because of Big Coal lobby. They've repeatedly sabotaged attempts to expand beyond basic mining and research reactors.
So do Russkies have any sort of air defense left? Refineries and fuel depots get whacked every night by multiple gang bang drones nowadays.
>>65096174Do they think they can just end the war when they choose? Lmao
>>65099617Still a mix out there of S300 variants, some mid stuff like BUK and short range gear. But obviously there's not as much and its not very effective against stuff like the drones in the FP-2 type of class, they absolutely do shoot some of them down so its not a complete cuck-shed of horrors.Compared to decent AA missiles though, guided drones are cheap now and they've got AI-assisted targeting protocols, they just have to get them into the general area they're operating and even if its got an e-war setup nearby it doesn't really matter very much.
>>65099627Why don't Pantsirs put in the work they've been designed to do?
>>65099631Because they don't have Networked AAThat's the reason Ukraine shoots down a heap of stuff because of the long range intel, target identification and their kill chain is so short because valid targets are lit up 1000's of km away before even getting into range of the countermeasure.>Russia lost its AWACS>They don't have good friend-foe ID>The authorisation to fire is minimal due to trust/competency issues>Short of ammunitionSo its not a one and done problem with a weapon system, its a complete failure to maintain networked comms and adjust their fire-doctrine accordingly because of that competency, control and command is extremely limited.
>>65099679>>65099631Russkibros.... I don't feel so good....
>>65099679they're also struggling to replace destroyed/damaged radar systems and launchers
>>65096104Three. Tokyo was gigafucked by b29s as well
>>65096132Remember when they hit the Saratov with a fucking tochka somehow?
>>65096132Doe the 3 fires mean that the ship is confirmed destroyed and/or heavily damaged beyond viable use?
>>65096132What do the arrows mean? Renamed/repositioned ships?Also wtf, they sunk the Kommuna (WARCRIME)? How the hell did I miss it?
>>65099781the custer tochka that ignited what was probably fuel and ammo in the cargo bay? it was glorious
>>65099803>What do the arrows mean?showing which ships got hit from the latest attack on Crimea
>>65099781That was also one of the first really significantly large naval vessels destroyed outright in the war and very impressivelyCourse the really funny shit happened after as they went through the whole denial, this is fine, can be repaired and will be fixed up in a jiffy>My nigger, its keel is broken and fire is shooting out the front loading doors!
>>65099826The ship at the front of the picture be like:>Not my fucking problem
>>65099831Yeah from memory there was two of them there of that same class that raised steam and noped the fuck out as there was big chunks of shit landing about 500m away from the dock. Probably a solid plan just in case a 2nd one is on the way in
>>65097568>Afghanistan was done by the Soviet Union just like Czechoslovakia, Hungary and East Germany.No your honour it wasn't me who raped and murdered my neighbour! You see i have changed my name after that!
