>your force is mainly composed of infantry>You have the required heavy weapons to put down the enemy's tanks>You lack your own armorFor ease of though experinent, assuming you have unlimited reserves of manpower, and equipment.Without going full suicide charges how would one be able to take ground against the enemy?Assume the enemy has no airforce and neither does your side, but you have access to heavy field guns abd artillery.How would One to about it?Expecialy if on open ground
>>65099600You just go home and they don't drone you, simple as.
>>65099600>You lack your own armor
>>65099600>>You lack your own armor
>>65099611https://youtu.be/ZpBngmCpUrUI have a brain problem where this plays every time I see a baneblade
>>65099600Artillery duels until you win -> your artillery supresses the enemy infantry -> your infantry can now approach their fortification and storm it"approach their fortification" also includes mine clearing, smoke laying and a whole lot of other operations, but that's the general blueprint. We invented manouver warfare in an attempt to get around this cycle, but that only works on low density battlefields.
Sir do we really need a shrine inside the tank filled with the skulls of all the previous crew members?
>>65099611D-cannon bait
>>65099689Ask that one more time and your skull will be thrown out the hatch instead of mounted on the shrine when the time comes.
>>65099689higher resolution
>>65099600read up on WW1 tactics, specifically Vimy Ridgeand the tactics developed for Second El Alamein that grew out of Vimy Ridgewhich subsequently were practised in Overlordand forms the basic NATO combined-arms brigade-level find-fix-flank-finish tactics of large scale combat ops till today
>>65099699What if you lack airpower but have vehicles?
>>65099712then it's Vimy Ridge minus the aerial scouting then
>>65099600Digalot SneakalotProbalot
>>65099600
>>65099689You would deprive the skulls of their tank? Would you like it if I took YOUR tank away?
>>65099661I have this but for "Barracuda" and that song.
>>65099600>How do cav scouts or weapons platoons employ TOW and JavilinsIt's almost like there is a whole FM on this.
>>65099600My favorite battles are always the massive infantry crushes>The Solar War>Iron Warriors load up a few million gangers from conquered hive worlds onto two giant interstellar grain transports>gas the ships with Frenzon and crash them through void shields of the Pluto defence stations>orbital stations fall to the hordes of maddened criminals in a few hours, then just blow them up so you don't have to deal with them yourself>Traitor Rock>enemy fortress is on a mountain island with huge cliff faces, near impossible to assault>send giant Mechanicus crawler vehicles that lay a prefab tunnel in the water>send tens of thousands of penal troops, Repentia and cadets in a frontal assault on the weakest enemy positions, horrible massacre with meters of bodies piled on top of each other>successful pinning maneuverSometimes the tank warfare and artillery are cool, but the peak of guardkino is the meat grinder
>>65099689What I want to know is why they store the spent casings inside the tank instead of ejecting them.
>>65100458Part of the reason the Baneblade is fuckhueg is because it's meant to be able to operate in environments where opening up the vehicle are prohibitive, like the surface of the moon or planets similar to Mars. Come to think of it, what are the effects of ejecting shells in low G environments?
>>65100458Each one is probably turned into a holy relic. I know guardsmen will gather spent space marine bolter casings and carry them as lucky charms on the battlefield
Can a guardsman land a cute sister of battle gf? asking for a friend
>>65099600There is no such thing as a suicide charge when you're on crack. You're on the move, at the top of your game, lights on, systems engaged man.You'll be totally effective.High as fuck.On crack.Now imagine unimited monkey crackhead niggaz with one goal: that ass.
>>65099608>>65099611>>65099689>>65099696>>>rivetsNo wonder there's a shrine full of skulls from the previous crew members.
CLAIM YOUR GUARD REGIMENT NOW
>>65101027Savlar, always Savlar
>unlimited reserves of manpower, and equipment.I rush an offensive castle drop. GG EZ no RE :^)But seriously it was a valid strategy to plop castles down in key areas to supress the enemy and eventually control territory. Castles had offensive uses too.
>>65099859Which one?
>>65099600>Dig in>Point every artillery piece you can feed at the enemy>They're not going to solve the problem, WWI showed that, but they'll keep the enemy occupied and slowly build up a body count>Meanwhile you have your guys dig mine tunnels under no mans land>Dig multiple such tunnels, carefully calculated to end up in artificial chambers you dig just far enough under the enemy lines that you're not risking cave ins, especially considering your non-stop bombardment>Fill each chamber with as much HE as you can fit in them (aim for at least a few tonnes in each)>Set up these bombs along a stretch of enemy line at least a few miles in width>Detonate them all at once, annihilating the enemy positions within the blast area>Your infantry can walk through the hole, relatively calmly and with minimal hostile fire
>>65100799Look up the clip of Christina Koch on Artemis II attempting to remove the battery from her camera.Now imagine that with something.. heavier.
>>65099600Earthworks. Unending Earthworks.
>>65101012>rivets They are actually "molecular bonding studs" but yeah, rivets.
>>65101027Vostroyan, it is a fact of fictional war that if you are not dripped out you will die immediately.
>>65100945Not impossible, but highly unlikely as they just don't usually run in the same circles. Better chance if you get recruited to an inquisitor or rogue trader retinue, or if you're a tempestus scion, but then you aren't technically a guardsmen at that point, just guardsmen adjacent.
>>65101180>not dripped out Massive dongs and blue paint is what wins wars.
>>65099600Creeping barrage, obviously.
>>65101027Utica IV for me, please
>>65101204Solid choice
This is just another spam thread
>>65101218>vanquisher Isn't that the pattern where the Imperium forgot how to make APFSDS and simply made the barrel longer with fuckhuge shells to be more effective at AP?
>>65101240>Imperium forgot how to make APFSDSI'm not a big fan of the "haha lol they forgot such a simple technology they're so silly haha" when humanity as a whole went through dozens of near-extinction apocalyptic events with at least two of those that we know of involving high chances of anything with an integrated circuit wanting to murder any nearby living being.That being said as always, it's inconsistent and Vanquishers could have just as well been firing APFSDS all along since the shells are apparently longer and I think the only time someone tried to slap a name on them it was HEAT which made even less sense. One of Macharius variants gets the same cannon and there it also can fire normal sized anti-infantry (AP?)HE blasts meaning both cannons could probably share ammo but size limitations and the inevitable grimdark explanation of each dart being hand-made by children in a sweat shop means that the Leman Russ variants carry just one type of ammo and they use the longer barreled ones to throw APFSDS and maximize that muzzle velocity.
>>65101027Catachan
>>65101027/Krieg/ here.
>>65101027
>>65101027mydudes
>>65101027First feet into Hell.
>>65101240>>65101352vanquisher AP shells are sabot, they just aren't fin stabilized t. Imperial Armour Volume 1 They also can use HE shells.
>>65101386They're clearly face-first though
>>65101395Oh, you.
gun-launched guided missiles are however lost technology
>>65101027>File 5748/b>CLASSIFIED>ACCESS DENIEDWhat's the deal with these guys? Who are they?>HOMEWORLD CLEANSED>BY ORDER OF INQ DICTAT>INFORMATION SUPPRESSEDTell me they fleshed these guys out and didn't just leave it at that, right?
>>65101401>technology from the 1960's is fucking magicThe Emperor deserves every fucking bad thing to ever happen to him, the fact that he didn't stash away a STC and let the fucking retards on Mars exist more than a picosecond.
>>65101401As they should be
>>65101415Old Warhams intentionally did [SANCTIONED BY THE INQUISITION] to give players space to put their homebrewed armies/characters and models in the game. So no they were not fleshed out. The Imperial Guard as a faction was basically created to bait the historical wargamers into the hobby with 40k'd Napoleonic/WW1 & WW2/Civil War/Medieval minis.It was grorious, unlike today where you have nerds whining at GW to make models for every single factions.
>>65101384Based, I hope crucible makes it into 11th.
>>65101418Nobody saw multiple concurrent apocalypses coming. Also much like the church in real life, the Ad Mech is the only reason any of humanity's dark age tech survived to the present day. A task made all the more difficult when everything powerful enough to house an AI was trying to kill them and the rest of the human race.
>>65099611So does the guy aiming the turret above the sponson sit on the shoulders of the sponson gunner? Same question about the forward turret and the driver? Are the hatches on the secondary turrets comically small or the ones on the main turret comically large?
>>65101027Mordian Iron Guard
>>65101691>being this wrong Wew lad.>nobody saw it coming Except for the fucking Emperor, who fucking had a bitchin bunker in the Himalayan mountains to work on the Custodes, Primarchs, and Thunder Warriors and other science shit. >Ad Mech= church I'm ignoring that low hanging fruit. >reality The AdMech are THE reason why humanity has backslid so severely. Their very existence strangles knowledge in the crib, kills innovation and even experimentation for the sake of trying to recover "lost" technology rather than redevelop it.
>>65101757Traitorous mechadendrites typed this post. I don't care what you say, I'm not letting you put scrap code in my augmetics.
which one would you rather shoot /k/? a lasrifle or an adapted bolgun like the sisters?
>>65101693Looking at >>65099689, the secondary turrets and sponsons appear to be controlled by servo-skulls (definitely not robots, that's heresy!), rather than crew members.
>>65101772I have a fleshborer, its pretty good.
>>65101782I'm asking humans, you xeno fag
>>65101691Piss off you double Martian.Toaster-fuckers should be killed in all cases.
>>65101779Pretty sure those are servitors
>>65099689> Sir do we really need a shrine inside the tank filled with the skulls of all the previous crew members?Let me put it this way: you can either shut up and do your duty and be honored by becoming part of the skull shrine, or you can keep complaining and become a part of the servitor gunner crew.(Also, given that it's 40k where makebelief is real, there's a non-zero chance the skull shrine actually helps the tank)
>>65101818Votrannie detected, your God is a computer.
>>65099600>You have the required heavy weapons to put down the enemy's tanksCan we put those heavy weapons on a vehicle of some kind?
>>65101764>continues to slather oil and slap his mecha dong against a fully functional STC that's so weirded out by him it actively refuses to help humanity Remember, ALL Ark Mechanicus ships are STC's that REFUSE to assist the AdMech because they find them disgusting. It's the equivalent of having the perfect woman live in your house without your knowledge and she could, at any time fix everything about you but doesn't because you outright repulse her (which she could fix btw) to the degree that the AdMech does. No other institution or character is cucked this hard.
>>65101787Have you ever considered visiting one of our community gatherings? I've got a really cute sister who wants to meet you.
>>65101933[citation needed]
>>65101954He has no citation, only regurgitated memes.
>>65101951Why do you have a third arm that is covered in chitin? Totally not calling the Deathwatch by the way, just ordering more stuff, for things, yeah that's the ticket...
>>65099600What kinds of AT? If you have ATGMs or Javelin equivalents you just advance slowly with bounding overwatch at a large scale.Stay without range of your AT while setting up more further forward. If you only have AT cannons it gets a lot harder but the same tactic will still work at the cost of more casualties.
>>65101954Niggas really asking for a citation on 40k lore, tourist detected.
>>65101954He's citing Priests of Mars where the Ark Mechanicus ship "Speranza's" Machine Spirit was [spoiler]actuall a DAOT AI that woke up and expressed utter disapproval at the Mechanicus bois that ran it & their crude attempts at using STCs and subsequently went rogue.[/spoiler]
>>65101772If I had to go to war? Lasgun.For fun? Bolbgun.
>>65101772the thing I would do for a meltagun
>>65102106It also told an actual Heretek trying to destroy Terra to fuck off and was generally passive, if not amicable, towards it's Mechanicus crew. It's clear that it's relationship with humanity is more complex than hate.>Your lives are meaningless to me. Why should I care, so long as I endure? [...]>Then help us because you can. said Kotov.>He sensed the machine-spirit’s amusement at his desperation and silently willed it to rouse a portion of its incredible power.>Very well, I will help you.Also:>They think us a great void-born city of metal and stone, a marvel of wonders never to be known again. We consent to our physical manifestation dwelling in the depths of space, sheet steel skin cold and unyielding. They think us a living thing, and we allow our irreducible complexity to be thought of as such.>The bones they have crafted are adamantium, our molten heart the flickering sparks of stars they believe tamed. We sweat oil, and the devotion of a million souls is thought to give us succour. The coherences of flesh and blood believe they empower us from within. They work the myriad wonders that drive our manifest organs, feed the whims of our appetite and hurl us through the fractional slivers of space between stars.>How far have we travelled? They will never know. What miracles have we seen? More than can be counted.>The light of every star that shines has reflected from our iron flesh. We bathe in light that has travelled from the past, cast by dead stars and furnaces yet to be born.>We are a wide-eyed mariner in strange seas, swept out among the glittering nebulae. We have seen sights no man can know, no legend tell or history record.>We are living history, for we have ventured farther and longer than any other manifestation of purest knowledge.>We are the bringer of hope in this hopeless age.>We are Speranza, and we are the Mariner of the Nebulae.It's arguable if Speranza is also "just" a DAOT AI and not something else enteriely.
>>65102287There's an old theory that some of the senior techpriests actually are Men of Iron but nobody can really tell the difference between a guy who's 98% machine and a guy who's 100% machine.
>>65102287Also, I didn't make it clear and worded it poorly but I don't think anything Speranza does really counts as it going rogue. At the end of the books it's still aligned with Mechanicus in general and not some crazed bloodthirsty AI death machine (optionally possessed like the Castigator) that "going rogue" implies.
Sir should we really lower the 800 ton Reaver Titan to the planet's surface using a giant ladder? Isn't there a better way to do this?
>>65102333Man OG 40k lore and art was silly as fuck sometimes.
>>65102423It still is
>>65102085>tourist detectedI have sung songs of lament since your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea
>>65101027I've always like Harkonian's and Elysian drop troopers. this is the first time I've noticed the maskless kreig tanker, might be the only depiction of their faces.
>>65102287their are probably different tiers of ai, the man of iron in a black fortress campaign, the deluded super titan that fought the grey knights and the self replicating anti chaos ai that appears in the the siege of Mars Horus heresy are different enough to be separate in forms.
>>65101912Correction: a SENILE computer
>>65099695jej
>>65099600Sadly, you've never, ever been introduced to how Airborne Corps operate. Dumbass.And you can save the "open ground" retardo caveat for somebody else, slavo. We don't do naked infantry in "open ground". Ever.
>>65101764>calling my finely tuned demon powered ICE breaker "scrap code"I'm gonna do a bunch of warp dust and then I'm going to craft an invasion program that will cause your mechadentrites to constantly be a fucking nuisance to you
>>65104522wow bro tell me about your iraq tour in 2017
>>65104451It's not, Chapter approved 2003 has their faces too. Still rare of course and completely gone nowadays.
Imperial Armour also depicted them without gas masks, but that's just because FW was using the standard tank crew models for the photos instead of making a custom one.
>>65099600>Assume the enemy has no airforce and neither does your side, but you have access to heavy field guns abd artillery.>How would One to about it?You use harassing and interdiction fire to deny the enemy supplies and sleep.You use prepatory fires to crack open the enemy defense.You use suppressive fires to fix the enemy and make them unable to fight back.You use close support fires to blow up everything that your company mortars can't destroy.>you have unlimited manpowerThis is hun and asiatic thinking.>you have unlimited ammunition and equipmentThis is the American way.
