Discuss guns, post guns, ask for stuff, help and company provided here. Be nice. Not a war thread.
>>65099613I'll start : is it possible to import some non-critical gun-related parts from the US through companies like MyUS, Shipito, Stackry or others I don't know about ? What's working well enough, any experience ? >needA real USP rail from DefenderCo, a gen 4 Glock magwell from Agency Arms, couple +2 extensions from MagGuts. And various small parts. Stuff that can't be bought on euro marketplaces. Obviously no magazines, no guns themselves, no ammos, I know this wouldn't work from a legal standpoint.
>>65099646Idk might depend on the country somewhat, but I have heard on the grapevine that getting anything out of the US has been incredibly difficult during Trump 2. Apart from that it just tends to depend on whether the company is willing to do the paperwork
>>65099646Yes, you just need to make sure the part you're importing isn't an essential firearm component according to your country laws, make sure it can be legally exported by muttland and that the forwarding company you choose is okay with it.
>>65099646Depends on country and how spergy the American seller is about muh ITARzzI had a guy in the USA refuse to sell me Rhodie FAL furniture coz muh itarzz and I'm still not over it.
>>65099613got my pump shotgun, got my sxs shotgun, got my 30-06 hunting rifle. thinking next year or later this year I'll add an O/U or a semi auto to my collection, but is it even possible to get something like a PTR91 in europe or am I stuck getting generic AR10 variant? (semi auto only in my shithole)
>>65099868meant to say semi auto .308, maybe wouldn't mind 6.5 mememoor either though
>>65099816My friend got a FAL picatinny dust cover from one guy on FALfiles who was willing to just send it over the mail
>>65099868>but is it even possible to get something like a PTR91 in europeYes but I haven't seen actual PTRs anywhere other than Sweden. MKE T41 is the shit you want but they must be made of unobtainium because they cost a fortune and are rarely available
>>65099730>>65099744>>65099816>ITARGuys, I have a doubt : you mean, even if I use Shipito/MyUS or else, DefenderCo, Agency Arms sellers and MagGuts would have to file all the export papers all the same ? Because they already told me to politely go fuck myself when asked about shipping to my eurocountry. Or they did not answered at all btw.
>>65099980Well yeah they do. Usually if they don't ship themselves, they will state an approved export firm on the website. You could ask Asetalo in Finland whether they're willing to be your middlemen since they do a lot of trade with the US, but idk
>>65099980It depends whether or not mercury is in retrograde and if that one particular random thing counts as ITAR in the mind of whichever retarded customs official/exporting business you end up with.I wasn't saying that the stuff you're asking for is ITAR, I'm saying Americans are retards and assume everything weapon related is ITAR and cannot be exported. You won't have to file export paperwork, they *think* they need it and don't want to do it, so that halts the transaction there.I'm a bong but back when we were in the EU I imported magazines, rails etc just fine. Same when we left the EU. It was always American exporters who were a pain in the ass.I do a bit of ordnance/bayonet collecting and it's pretty well known American customs are the biggest spergs on the planet for this stuff (along with Australians). Most of the time what they call ITAR isn't actually ITAR but it doesn't help you very much because they aren't going to listen when you tell them that.Sorry for sperg rant, I just get sick of the champions of freedom who are absolutely terrified of their own country arresting them for exporting a 1970s rifle stock.tl;dr find it in Europe/not USA if you can because even though there probably aren't any actual legal issues with what you want, the sellers will act as if there is.
>>65099980Also forgot to add:A lot of American businesses just assume all weapons stuff is illegal when they see a non-US shipping destination. That might have got better in recent years though. So they will assume you are some kind of criminal trying to smuggle in parts because they have a wild imagination. That was my experience when I tried to buy an FN49 stock as well (yes really). You will have infinitely more luck going through a European supplier, I don't know much about shipito/MyUS but iirc most export services like that outright refuse anything weapon related (I think I actually looked at using them for some weapons stuff before but it was 5+ years ago).
>>65100481It's not even necessarily ITAR, the US being a federation of sorts every state has their own export laws
>>65100481>I'm a bong but back when we were in the EU I imported magazines, rails etc just fineI bought my SLR mags from the UK, gracias
>>65100590Yeah probably, I'm only really familiar with ITAR through my own experience. As well as just general international arms trading laws.I'm only partially familiar with the legal side of ITAR, that's why I can't say for sure if his stuff is/isn't ITAR. I just know that people selling it will think it is. My knowledge really ends at "if the US Gov paid for it in some way it's probably ITAR", which is why the FAL furniture pissed me off so much, since it was not made in the USA nor paid for by the USA it *should* fall outside the realm of ITAR (at least that's what my training broadly said at the time).>>65100642You are welcome muchacho, I hope they get much use coz they sure as shit wouldn't here.
>>65100778>ITARthere's two things in the united states. ITAR and EAR.ITAR regards any firearms parts that is also used for military, EAR is the same kind but for commercial parts, for exemple you may purchase a PMAG from magpul and they will block because of ITAR, then you decide to get their AK furniture instead and they block it because of EAR.the only parts you can get from the US without them being blocked by the customs are springs and pins, anything else than look like it would belong on a firearm will be blocked by custom due to ITAR/EAR.btw this is all because the argentinians tried to sell F-16 to Pakistan or Iran while King nigger was in charge of the USA.
>>65100794>the only parts you can get from the US without them being blocked by the customs are springs and pins, anything else than look like it would belong on a firearm will be blocked by custom due to ITAR/EAR.My friend did order and receive a FAL trigger group straight from Jard thoughI think there's a limit for the value of the item you're buying ($100 or thereabouts) so you can't buy an F16
>>65100794Itar is much more than just firearms. TSA almost stole my thermal camera when I was returning to the EU from the US.