>>65102237
I wonder if they sneak fishing rods onto them

>>65102237
You're brown. That's my response.

>>65102253
Your post only proves that brown are better than whites

>>65102258
US Navy are browner

So why isn't the USN simply crushing them? Simply because Trump is a faggot or something? I can't imagine they honestly lack the capacity to. So it must be a political issue?

>>65102237
i haven't been paying attention. how many us navy ships have iranian speedboats destroyed or damaged?

>>65102289
its now a contest of which country can shoot the most cargo freighters.

>>65102289
Zero, Iran just started dropping mmines into the straits. And the USN has pretty much no mineclearing capability in the area.
I am unsure how a measure that is aimed exclusively at the other Gulf states is somehwo an Iranian win over the USN, though.

>>65102282
Because TACO, and there was no plan beyond 'we bomb Iran for a bit because Bibi said so'

>>65102237
>effortlessly mogs
If you call attacking civilian ships while evading the enemys actual navy "effortlessly" then yeah.

A bit like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IutBdHLnNcs

>>65102313
Navy exist to acomplish goals, not to destroy other navies in a honorable one to one combat.

>>65102342
And those "goals" are to attack civilian vessels in hopes that you're enough of a pest it cause the enemy to just give up because they're more humane then you?

>>65102342
I didn't realize the iranian navy's goal was to have every vessel larger than a tug boat be sent to the bottom of the ocean. Guess I can't comprehend such high tier strategy

>>65102237
A Hellfire each should do it.

>>65102367
A 5" shell is cheaper and all they deserve.

>>65102237
>Master 05 is classified; hostile fast attack craft
Snapshot on generated bearing

>>65102359
>very vessel larger than a tug boat be sent to the bottom of the ocean.
large vessels are useless, might as well get rid of them
>>65102357
Yes? Sound good.

>>65102299
>TACO
Lib boomers are worse than fox new boomers.

>>65102299
>redditards are still desperately trying to push taco
what blew up in iran this time

Wtf is "taco"? I love tacos.

>>65102259
this tbdesu, even by your own metric >>65102258 you still lost. USA won the day again baby

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>>65102237
>mogs
Um.

>>65102451
>>65102461

this war was your offramp. you dont have to defend trump anymore.

>>65102461
"trump always chickens out" a line that redditors got from the chinks back during the initial Venezuela kerfuffle. Collapsed into dust after the great Maduro caper, but they've been trying to keep it going all year.
its a gigantic contradiction because they meltdown if trump escalates, but call him cowardly if he doesn't escalate. very third-world

>>65102524
Navy status?
Airforce status?
Cardboard ayatollah status?
Strait status?
Air defence status?
tel aviv status?
dingy status?
allied help status?
economy status?
water level status
leadership status?(see >>65102517)
steel mill status?(look it up)

>>65102299
>I am unsure how a measure that is aimed exclusively at the other Gulf states is somehwo an Iranian win over the USN, though.
Jesus Christ this place has become dumb. The idea is to exert inflationary pressure on prices for Americans. Cutting off a large proportion of the world's oil and petrochemical product supply will do that.

>>65102536
>steel mill
>looks it up
Are we going to Marshall Plan Persia or what?

>>65102536
SMO status?
President of peace status?

>>65102540
>Persia
Every time I see this world I imagine an absolutely unhinged paraphiliac bitch with a huge ass.

>>65102546
why has iran not obliterated the entire US navy, redditor

>>65102553
why are you trying to make it seem like hating trump is strictly an anti-US position?

>>65102565
why are you so desperately trying to pretend you're not a shill.

>>65102538
In 5 to 8 months, when Asians and Africans start starving, sure.
When LNG prices in Europe go up, maybe.

This all massively hurts the US prestige and perceived power, but none of it actually hurts the USN directly.
It'S largely self-inflicted pain by teh US on teh US, the IRGC still got fucked, as did practically all Iranian air and naval assets.
Those are different things, and more than one of those can be true.

>>65102299
>>>65102282
>Because TACO, and there was no plan beyond 'we bomb Iran for a bit because Bibi said so'

Fun Fact: This is part of Israel's ongoing war against Amalek (USA and The West), not Iran.

Its about damaging USA by sucking them into loser wars.

>>65102531
Hell they were saying he'd chicken out on Iran before this all popped off (somehow forgetting we fucking bombed the piss out of them last year). At this point it seems like anything he does qualifies as "chickening out" to them. There's a lot of things you can call relocating valuable military assets from allies to use in the war, chicken is not one of them

>>65102282
>why isn't the USN simply crushing them?
Don't want to break the ceasefire and have drones and missiles flying at the gulf states.

It would be very easy to turn a small boat into flotsom with a general purpose machine gun.

Surviving like cockroaches as you country blows to smithereens and defeating the united states are two different things, aziz. I concede that this war is stupid and orange tard really shat the bed, but you will never, ever be anything than a mild nuisance at best.

>>65102573
Fun fact: you're being sent to the trenches next week AND you're getting droned.

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>>65102237
Man I hope they sortie in force once the war resumes. Its gonna be a feast of hellfires and 30mm. absolute kino.

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>>65102582
>Surviving like cockroaches as you country blows to smithereens and defeating the united states are two different things
Not really.
Taliban and the Vietcong managed to achieve both things at the same time.
Iran only needs to hold on till the US gets tired of blowing up their shit.

>>65102649
Trump or one of the other clowns already said that mining the straits was not a violation of the ceasefire.

>>65102237
>mog.
But they literally did nothing.

>>65102517
damn it's almost like it doesn't even matter how many of them we kill. maybe there's something we're missing here.

>>65102237
>launch coordinated salvo of 171 ASCMs at the Lincoln CSG.
>Bridge watch doesn't even wake the captain up.
>0 hits
>Flight operations delayed by 11 minutes
Strategic IRGCN victory

>>65102715
>We didn't need them anyway

>>65102715
Man imagine if the IRGC manged to make the commander of CENTCOM spill his coffee, you would be hailing it as the greatest triumph since crossing the hellespont. let alone putting so much as a scratch on someone above the rank of Captain.

>>65102299
>a measure that is aimed exclusively at the other Gulf states Y
Yes, it's not aimed at all at the global economic system that is the very foundation of the US' superpower status.

Retard.

>>65102572
It's already starting, retard.

>hurts the USN directly
Irrelevant.

>as did practically all Iranian air and naval assets
Funny, the CIA doesn't seem to agree with you there.

>>65102536
>Navy status?
Surprisingly intact, it seems.
>Airforce status?
Surprisingly intact, it seems.
>Cardboard ayatollah status?
Stupid meme is stupid.
>Strait status?
Under iranian control. Closed to US ships.
>Air defense status?
Suprisingly intact, it seems.
>tel aviv status?
A few dents here and there.
>dingy status?
Plenty of 'em left-
>allied help status?
Chink and russian resources seem to keep flowing.
>economy status?
About the same as where the global economy is headed. Which is a win for Iran because they're the ones for whom this is an existential conflict.
>water level status
Seems fine for now, luckily enough for the US' Gulf puppets.
>leadership status
Evidently intact enough to keep the straits under iranian control.
>steel mill status?
About the same as the US industrial sector LMAO.

>>65102743
How many gorillions more are needed to open the straits?

>>65102757
>reddit spacing
-34353004343 izzat

>>65102779
"Intact" must translate from English to Farsi and back again improperly. Someone should put a support ticket in.

What does mining the straits bring them any benefit but making the straits more inaccessible than it already is? I know /k/ are filled with europoor who hates America but still, U.S navy is still there and they can still blockage the straits if shit goes down hill again while Iran literally gave a middle finger to everyone, even China and doesn't let anyone use the straits anymore. How does this benefit them?

>>65102779
Cope

>>65102665
Only one of those countries recovered economically and the one that did got friendly with the US to do so.

>>65102342
Iran's speed boats have failed at both. As they are finding out, a closed strait hurts them more than it does us, and mines don't descriminate (unless they're command detonated I guess)

>>65102793
anyone got that video of a US sub blowing up an IRGC ship that had all the shills screaming warcrime

>>65102810
It's not for the rest of the world. One hand of the IRGC is not happy another is talking. Therefore they took a shit on the negotiating table in an attempt to remove a disagreeable off ramp for Iran hoping it will force them to all keep fighting. Benefits of the much lauded "mosaic" warfare model, the smart ones don't have the capability to tard wrangle because the tards were given the same keys as them.

>>65102715
Of course it matters how many we kill. We need to kill them all

>>65102838
The smart move is to keep the pressure up, because Trump will eventually give in and let them charge tolls as inflation builds ahead of the midterms. The tard move is to surrender now.

>>65102845
We’re having apocalypse tier shilling now and it’s only been a month. Do you really think that Iran can tolerate 6 more months of US-enforced winter?

>>65102845
What level of brown retardation do you have to be operating on for wishcasting this fucking stupid?

Tbh, if Trump is not online addict retard and keep his social media radio silent, Iran wouldn't feel empowered. And the strait question would never brought out.

Iran lost pretty much all of their larger vessels and much of their aircraft. Removing their ability to project further into the region.
Whatever remains plays no role because they hid it underground until the "ceasefire". So their survival is irrelevant if Iran is unable/unwilling to use them.
And if fighting starts again then they had better be quick to hide their assets again, so they can continue to be of no use.

>>65102845
>t. Tard
The dems ran on Iran being a problem. The current fucking won't end even if the house magically flips in november. The smart move is to secure a deal while Trump's ego requires fewer concessions on Iran's part instead of kicking the whole world into overdrive finding an alternative to Hormuz.

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>>65102874
>>65102882
>>65102900
It's funny, the real shills are the ones shilling for Trump, and they're desperate for Iran to sign a surrender. Why? Because they love the Iranian people? No of course not, they know what I'm saying is the truth and that the straits of Hormuz is in effect a noose round Trump's neck, tightening every day.
If America is so powerful, just clear the straits. Should be easy, right?
Now watch this post disappear for hurting the feelings of the MAGAs, despite it being on topic and an accurate summation.

>>65102900
You are right. If Iran didn't strike deal before the entire house flipped and Orangenigger impeached, they will definitely got fucked. The reason why Iran get away with everything was because everyone hated Trump more. Remove Trump (and Israel) in the equation and suddenly Iran is the only bad guy here.

>>65102845
Hormuz is a single move effective only for the short and maybe intermediate term. there already is some capacity to export via the red sea or Fujairah and you can bet your ass everyone in the region is pushing hard for even more capacity and pipelines towards the med.
Oh, and unlike Iran, they can afford too.
Iran may have some short term leverage, but it already lost what ever good will anyone in the region was willing to extend to them(good luck sanction busting and hording your wealth in the gulf states now) and their only leverage will be gone soon enough. the added bonus is that Iran cant supply the houithis any more, non of them have any cargo aircraft left and with the USN prowling the seas, they are factually isolated. I wont be surprised if theres going to be a strong, pan-arabic push to disembowel them for good.

>>65102907
The U.S. is making money off the strait being closed though. Turning it into a mythical win condition is fighting on Iran's terms. Choke the already teetering Iranian economy and wait till they collapse or come to terms.

>>65102920
Yeah but in this case, short term is enough. There's no way to build pipelines and capacity before the midterms. And Trump will cave long before then.

>>65102907
>immediately has a fursecution spergout
If your posts are getting deleted it's because they're dogshit, not because you're a brave defender of retardation who ran afoul of a glowie. The world will not accept paying extortion money to Iran simple as. Their options are to make a viable compromise from their current position of very little power, or get nullified.

>>65102925
>The U.S. is making money off the strait being closed though
US oil companies are. Unless you're a shareholder you, an American, are not. You're just paying more for everything.

>>65102926
Iran's gambling that it can win an energy war by ceding market share to the largest producer of oil and gas. Pretty retarded strategy.

>>65102515
>>65102259
>w-we never called iranians brown sandniggers, they are actually honorable Persians and true Aryans, it's not shameful to lose to them!

Pathethic

>>65102931
Fortunately I'm a shareholder, and the U.S. economy can be buoyed by rich fucks like me who consumption is correlated with asset values.

>>65102927
>The world will not accept paying extortion money to Iran simple as.
Cool. When can I expect the binding UN resolution backed by the security council?

>or get nullified.
Lol, ok then. Do it fgt.

>>65102915
Please learn how the American election and impeachment processes work before typing this gay shit. At most the dems will take the house in November and file umpty dozen more articles of performative impeachments that will go nowhere in the senate much less remove Trump.

>>65102932
That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Market share with regard to a high demand product like oil and petrochemicals is meaningless and shifts according to price. There's no brand loyalty to make market share matter. Nobody is buying US Brand oil. If your oil is still in the ground it's effectively banked for the future.

Aren't ships just going through Oman's side of the strait?

>>65102937
Good for you.
> the U.S. economy can be buoyed by rich fucks like me who consumption is correlated with asset values.
Nope, that's cope.

>>65102927
>The world will not accept paying extortion money to Iran simple as
fucking China, the supposed savior and ally of Iran according to the shills, didn't bother paying. outside of desperate cope I don't see why the shills are trying to argue that a toll will somehow fix all of Iran's problems

>>65102932
No, Iran's gambling that Trump will TACO before November and allow them to charge a toll, and GTFO out their neighborhood.
It's a good bet too after they watched him surrender Afghanistan and abandon key allies.

>>65102933
Define loss, shill

>>65102938
>muh UN
Kek turdie confirmed, sorry about your luck anon. Hopefully the smart Iranians get control of your retarded heroes fast and can prevent the country from becoming Afghanistan 2.0

>>65102959
>muh UN
Holy shit you're stupid. The UN's impotence was literally my point. I'm arguing with genuine, no shit morons. Like genuinely retarded downies here

>>65102955
>desperate redditard shilling
>desperately trying to keep the taco narrative going
see >>65102531 chinkshill
>>65102947
generally yes, even China's ships.

>>65102926
>surely the democrats will save us!
lol I remember the Russians saying the same thing about Trump.
Sometimes you’re simply too fucked to be saved.

>>65102962
That’s not a redditard. That’s a clear /pol/ brownoid. They have literal threads there about how they “owned” /k/.

>>65102962
>taco narrative
TACO is an immutable natural law by this point. Slam that report button a few more times though to make the hurty words go away, chief.

>>65102951
Statistically that's not true. Top 10% of consumers drive 50% of spending. If they feel, i.e. the market is up, that's what drives spending and fuels the market.

>>65102955
That was Biden, and the IRGC will run out of money and be eaten by its own starving basijj by then, if the rest

>>65102944
Oil is more fungible, nonetheless while gulf crude is off the market, the U.S. oil gets sold for a higher price. Gas markets work different. There isn't much export infrastructure so U.S. gas prices are dirt cheap. Given they don't have to sail through the strait, more demand will diver to US LNG exports. Further, the U.S. energy market is most insulated from the shocks caused by Iran, so on a relative basis this also attracts more industrial investment.

Thanks, Iran!

>>65102455
>what blew up this time?
The brain of collaborators and Jewish-American spies from their skulls. It’s funny watching the president pleading with the IRGC to not execute some women found guilty of passing information to the enemy.

>>65102964
No you stupid fuck, you cannot be this dumb. The Iranians don't care about if Dems win or lose the midterms you stupid, stupid fuckwit.
The gamble is
>Trump will cave before then to avoid a Dem whitewash
not
>The democrats will give us what we want

It's such a simple strategy but it genuinely feels like trying to explain physics to a spaniel.

>>65102972
>tariffs trippled
>border shut
>browns leaving
>murder rate at historic lows
>OBB passed
>useless bureaucrats fired
>men in women's sports gone
>maduro yoinked
>Iran bombed x2
>stock market record highs

Its funny how brain rot dems screech TACO when there hasn't been a Democrat this successful at fulfilling his agenda since FDR in 1936.

>>65102981
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM BROWN AND IM SHITTING AND PISSING
That’s even stupider. That’s also not the meaning of “whitewash”.

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>>65102976
>That was Biden
Trump signed the surrender.

>Oil is more fungible, nonetheless while gulf crude is off the market, the U.S. oil gets sold for a higher price. Gas markets work different. There isn't much export infrastructure so U.S. gas prices are dirt cheap. Given they don't have to sail through the strait, more demand will diver to US LNG exports. Further, the U.S. energy market is most insulated from the shocks caused by Iran, so on a relative basis this also attracts more industrial investment.
>Thanks, Iran!
He says all that and yet, Trump is begging for the straits to be opened and he reacts angrily to the idea they stay closed.
Really reminds of how Russians used to boast that sanctions would actually improve their economy.

>>65102981
Everyone knows the strategy, it's just dumb because Iran and the rest of the world will collapse over hormuz before the USA.

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>Day 930 of Special 3 Day Jihad Operation to Liberate Al-Quds
>Ham-ass assblasted
>Hezbollah Hezballess
>Assad Is-sad
>Iran ran
Imblessive.
With this most recent achievement, Allah has, in a single stroke, marked the decline of the West and ushered in a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Persian lion, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of Western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Persian water mismanagement, allied bombings, and demooralizer shills will be the instruments with which Iran affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.
>but muh strait
Post Salami
Post Bagheri
Post Rashid
Post Hajizadeh
Post Mehrabi
Post Rabbani
Post Sheikhian
Post Hassani
Post Kazemi
Post Mohaqiq
Post Abbasi
Post Tehranji
Post unatomized nuclear scientists
Post uncucked AD
Post uninfiltrated command structure
Post contested Iranian airspace
Post uranium enrichment facilities
Post ballistic missiles with non-zipcode sized CEP
Post Russian military assistance
Post modern artillery
Post unevacuated capital
Post uncratered state news station
Post Hezbollah
Post Assad
Post any Sinwar
Post navy
Post control of Hormuz Strait
Post Ayatollah

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>>65102989
Come on, man, isn't that a little beneath you?

>>65102955
>allow them to charge a toll
You are not this stupid. You do not believe this is even a possible outcome.

>>65102960
The world doesn't need the UN to not pay Iran a toll you drooling mongoloid. Nobody is paying now, they aren't paying in the future because Iran thinks the dems will save them in November either. Being a belligerent fag on the world stage is barely working for America, Iran ain't that guy chief

>>65102993
I think it's more likely that more and more nations will cave and pay the toll, and US ships will not, in fact, fire on the ships of every nation in the world.

>>65102997
With Trump anything's possible. Besides, it doesn't matter what I believe, what matters is what the Iranians believe.

>>65103001
The toll is separate. The U.S. can still blockade Iranian ships, strangling its imports and exports. If China now has to pay a premium on its oil to Iran that's to America's benefit.

>>65102995
It’s not a spelling mistake, it’s you using a word wrong because you’re an obvious ESL.

>>65102282
Why is Trump literally cleaning the asshole of Putin with his tongue every chance he gets? The current US administration is unknowable

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>>65103015
I think you're the ESL here, chief.

>>65103017
>tired euro talking points
How about another 100 billion to Russia and another ex-german Chancellor to sit on the board of gazprom

>>65102282
Because all they need to keep the straight under threat is keeping a few drones hidden and ready on a coastline with big cities.
The US could (probably) kill the speedboats, but that doesn't change the fact that there is no real win condition outside of hoping that Iran gives up / has a revolution.
And why the fuck would they give up before even waiting out the midterms?

>>65103011
>The U.S. can still blockade Iranian ships, strangling its imports and exports.
I don't think the hardliners, who are apparently calling the shots, give a shit. And as I said, oil in the ground is effectively banked.
> China now has to pay a premium on its oil to Iran that's to America's benefit.
I think China would accept some pain for the possible benefits of Trump becoming a lame duck president or even the US having a Suez Crisis moment and pulling out the mideast altogether, which is an outside chance sure, but not impossible with Trump.

>>65103024
Don't know what you're talking about and don't care. My country is one of the top contributors in REAL monetary value to Ukraine. Meanwhile the US has stopped all contributions and is currently inviting Putin to G20, lmao. What a disgrace

>>65103030
If your analysis is that Iran, whose economy is on the brink of
collapse, is better positioned to withstand a blockade of its economic lifeline, is better situated than the U.S. you're analysis lacks credibility and you're clearly just goal seeking to satisfy your political biases.

>>65103020
Nice try, brownoid. That still doesn’t work in the context of the post.

>>65103032
>leftist doesn't know the facts and takeaway pride in propping up his Ukrainian meatshields
Shocking

>>65103030
>Muh china will save us
You think China will do anything other than put in the bare minimum effort to keep the oil flowing and paying as little as possible ?
China isnt in to nation building or forming alliances with failed nations, they are in the game of exploting natural resources and debt entrapment.

>>65103037
Every analysis I've read points to the US being the ones on a timeline, not Iran. Iran is a shitheap and can suffer being a slightly smellier shitheap. The US government can't suffer embarrassing themselves domestically and internationally more than they already have. I mean of course they CAN, but really shouldn't. The dems are going to win in a landslide and the republicans will be hurting for a long time, and that's just domestically.

>>65103038
Ok, explain how it doesn't work given I was being hyperbolic about a complete defeat of the republicans. I'm anxious to see how you try to wriggle your brown ass out of this one.

>>65103037
>hose economy is on the brink of collapse
I think the one thing that's become evident since the 1991 Gulf War is that countries can exist "on the brink of collapse" for a long fucking time. Since then multiple countries have managed it.

>>65103038
>takeaway pride in propping up his Ukrainian meatshields
Oh my God, it's a fucking Russian shilling for Trump LOL

>>65103041
>everyone that disagrees with me is a naz... communist

Magatards are the exact mirror image of leftie feminists

>>65103044
>You think China will do anything other than put in the bare minimum effort to keep the oil flowing and paying as little as possible ?
No that's not my argument at all. That's the opposite of my argument. Where the fuck did you get that from?

>>65103055
>n-no u
lol I’m not a shuckin’ and jivin’ thirdie like you. I don’t have to do shit at your command.

>>65103051
How is the US embarassing themselves? You're writing all this value laden judgement, you're obviously biased in favor of a brown shithole. No idea why.

>>65103056
>ignores all the pro Russian dick sucking euros did and do, including being told to stop by Obama and Trump because you still buy the fake DNC collusion narrative
Meanwhile in reality Trump is seizing Russian tankers and schwaking Putin's allies while Euros still pay for Russian energy.

>>65103072
Putin's allies are literally still in power in Venezuela, the only regime figure gone is Maduro and all the rest are still allies to Russia.
And Trump can't claim credit for Assad. That's arguably Turkey above anyone else.

>>65103068
Ok, Ranjeet.

>>65103078
You'll notice venezuela isnt trading in sanctioned crude on Russian vessels and Russian ships escorted by the Russian navy were seized. Cuba next btw. We kill and capture dictators in America, not stand by and write strongly worded statements.

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>>65103069
>How is the US embarassing themselves?
You tell me

>>65103072
>being told to stop by Obama and Trump
TL note: stop buying cheap Russian resources, buy our expensive energy so you can bail out our failing fracking business and render your own industries non-competitive so we can steal them from you

>>65103084
There's no evidence of that at all.

>>65103088
Better than funding Putins war machine while begging America to defend you because you cut your military to the bone.

>>65103090
>if I ignore facts I'm right
Venezuela now sends its oil to U.S. refiners and the U.S. seized a Russian tanker in Jan escorted by a Sovremenny class destroyer.

>>65103093
>while begging America to defend you
He says, while the orange kiddy diddler is begging euros to step up and die for Israel on his behalf

>>65103085
Tell me how many days did Russia have to gain air superiority over Ukraine?

Pathetic, Ivan

>>65103069
Because the US started a war, with no real preparation, and even though it was against a shithole nation the US still bungled it. When the bungling was obvious, the US started begging NATO, whom they previously had disregarded, to intervene. The US then started blockading a blockade, since they could not stop the blockade, thus pretending that UNO is a military simulation game. Meanwhile the fuel prices keep rising and rising worldwide due to this compleyely unneccessary war that the US started.

>>65103101
>defend your own sea lanes
Haha holy shit Europe is pathetic.

>>65103072
Meanwhile, the US ceases oil sanctions against Russia since there was still sone dingleberries left in Putins starfish

>>65103085
>Uhh you took some losses so you're the same as the retards who have pissed away decades of military buildup and lost resources they can no longer manufacture

>>65102253
Persians are whiter than Jews.

>>65103104
>hormuz
>euro sea lane

>>65103103
If you still love the IRGC after they murdered their own civilians, waged economic war on the world, and bombed civilian infrastructure in a dozen neutral countries then your moral compass is broken.

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>>65103104
>your own sea lanes
Hormuz is not Europe's sea lane, most of their oil doesn't go through here. Trump just wants additional meatbags because the more this war drags on and gets mutts killed the more he's going to eat shit in the midterms.

>>65103104
>Americanspointingoutacountryonamap.jpg

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>>65103099
>According to Trump
Is this the same as the gold card citizenships he was selling, where he claimed thousands of them were being sold and Witkoff just announced only one has actually been sold? Or when Trump announced tariffs were causing Europeans to invest more money than actually exists in the world in the US?

>>65102357
Yes? Navies have always prioritized merchant shipping. For most of WW2, US subs were ordered not to engage warships.

>>65103116
>>65103117
And yet Europe is running out of fuel. But keep pretending it's not your problem. Just like Ukraine isn't ours.

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>>65103115
I hate the IRGC. I just hate MAGA and Trump more. Watching both sides eat shit is perfection. I hope this war goes on for a long time.

>>65103115
You and your country defend Israel and their regular massacres in Palestine and Lebanon, you have zero moral high ground.

>>65103115
So if I state the fact that the war was both completely unnecessary and also bungled, I automatically have to love Iran? I don't love Iran, and the current US admin is beyond retarded. Both these things are true.

>>65103118
This is all verifiable with shipping data. But dont let me ruin your headcanon.

>>65103132
Go on, verify it then.

>>65103124
No we aren't, lmao. Where do you get your news? We are having natural gas shortages, or so I hear.

>>65102299
Still don't know what TACO is even supposed to mean. Thinking you can use your ingroup jokes as outgroup insults illuminates your defective theory of mind.

>>65102976
These obvious USA shills sound exactly like ziggers. None of the adverse events or fuck ups are taken for what they are instead they desperately try to bullshit themselves into believing that the fuck up X is actually a good thing.

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>>65103124
>yuros will freeze to death and eat their own pets in winter or sumn
Lmao, zigger tier mental gymnastics from miggers. We have higher fuel prices but that's a price I'm willing to pay in exchange for muttmerica's collapse on the international stage.

>>65103134
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/chevron-refinery-venezuelan-oil/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24n8eqzgyo
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article315403175.html

>>65103138
It's an investment term, not a leftie term, pretty well known at this point.

>>65103124
>running out of fuel
it isn't, what's happening is price increases making flight unprofitable.
due to EU consumer protection rules the airlines can't increase the rates for seats that are already booked so the airliners are cancelling flights.
at the same time US airlines are faced with the same issues and Spirit airlines has declared bankruptcy

>>65103139
Ayatollah status?

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>>65103142
How is America collapsing your copium addled faggot? Because we are blockading China's oil supply while they do nothing.

>>65103115
The US does all those things.

>>65103128
Based.

>>65103145
I don't speak Yiddish.

>>65103148
It's actually good that the ajatolla died they now have a fresh, young and energetic leadership ready to tackle the US. This is what you sound like.

>>65103104
Yea, we're just going to wait out the midterms.

>massive uptick in seething
oh those planes last night must have hit something nice

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>>65102994
>Hezbollah Hezballess
ok I'm just mad I didn't think of it first. well played

>>65102972
what happened to the whole taco narrative surrounding venezuela?
>>65102971
how pathetic

>>65103230
The Maduro regime is still in power, and coke and fent are still flooding into the states.
But hey, blowing up those fishing boats with Hellfires is some pretty good propaganda. How about that UFC White House card? You like your bread and circus goy?
>>65103146
You're arguing with a migger. They have no original thoughts that are regurgitated to them by Ben Shapiro or his good little Shabbos goy cuck Matt Walsh. Hell, he probably watches Dim Tool as well.

>>65102282
This war is really fucking gay because midterms are coming up and no one wants to sign their name under an escalation, because that would be wildly unpopular and cost them votes
So we're basically sabre rattling but unwilling to actually commit to taking a swing

>>65103262
>dey wuz fission botes
Venezuela is gone, Iran is about to be gone, and the Democratic party's long-term goal of a weak and cowed USA as a Good Global Citizen on equal footing with global browndom is in shambles, and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it, ha ha ha ha

>>65103262
What. Happened. To. Maduro.

>>65103285
I ask again if anyone got that video of a US sub blowing up an IRGC ship.

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>>65103290
Ive got you senpai

Another war lost for the US

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>>65103286
He was back stabbed and offered to the US as piece of political theatre

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>>65103285
>Democratic party's long-term goal of a weak and cowed USA
Trump is literally destroying the entire system that propped up the US either due to blackmail or bribes.

>>65103351
>us
>propped up
guess the script says to go for that narrative now
>>65103303
beautiful

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Lot's of 'baity-slide' threads about today, /pol/estine is coping overtime.
Roll for why:
0. Another ayatollah recycled
1. TTP-Pakistani ambush
2. Fresh /k/ubed mobik-meat pile
3. RuF dirtbike offensive ends in a pileup
4. Long range drones destroy another refinery or transport plane
5. FPV drone mid-air multikill
6. USN sinks another IRGC vessel
7. Flamingo strikes promote more Russian leadership
8. IRGC massacre, imprisonment, rape, and execution of civilian protestors
9. Mobik razor-wire suicide
Dubs: New ayatollah is left at the mercy of the elements and begins to discolor in the sun
Trips: Trump has a heart attack and with his last gasp orders a nuclear strike on Tehran, Madrid, and Hillary.
Quads: Iran accidentally dirtybombs itself when IRGC leaders' butthurt reaches criticality in close proximity to their remaining refined uranium stockpiles.

>>65103088
>dude just pay for our gay wars while we fund the enemy we want you to defeat lmao
ok but you have to suck my penis first. and don't say you're too prideful since euros have no dignity.

>>65103386
>pay for our gay wars
See >>65103101
Also nice to see miggers are following in ziggers' steps, straight up to the homosex obsession

>>65102237
by surviving an engagement

Iran has *one* strategic option and it's to try to block the Strait. They can't try to sortie military forces to do it entirely because they will be killed. So they're settling for putting up a "Closed" sign and trying to make an example of the few ships they can catch.
The rest of the world can either: try to force it open, hope negotiations succeed, use the Omani side, create land pipeline or find other alternative routes in the longer term.

Much like Saddam blowing oil fields in 1991 and 2003, it's trying to inflict pain on everyone else as a "You made me do this!" but in the end it only creates more enemies of your state. Because nobody wants to deal with a tantrum and if you try to inconvenience everyone else, the list of people looking to come spank your ass and/or take your assets to recoup losses only lengthens.

>>65103388
>I don't have to address how we're knowingly and deliberately funding the enemy we demand you protect us from at your expense because I made an unrelated inflammatory schizopost in which I mock the idea that we would ever help you
This would be more frustrating if you were actually a European instead of just faking it to sow discord.

>>65102957
Not him but the commonly accepted definition of a loss in a war is when you fail to achieve your political goals you were trying to enforce via military means. The political goals of the campaign seem to have been:
>regime change in Iran
>full destruction of uranium enrichment facilities
>diminishing of Iran's influence in the region
>military disarmament
>paving the way for Israel to take over the entirety of the middle-east

None of these goals have been reached. The regime is still in power, they're still actively enriching uranium, they have now more influence than they have ever had, they're militarily still a threat, and Israel has lost the majority of its influence in the region and in all western countries where they don't have evidence of the leaders engaging in child molestation. Iran is now in a better position than it was before the war happened, it's a catastrophic loss by every relevant metric. It's actually even worse, because USA has completely and utterly destroyed its reputation and greatly diminished its prestige and influence. A genuine historical fuck-up.

>>65103433
>>Much like Saddam blowing oil fields in 1991 and 2003, it's trying to inflict pain on everyone else as a "You made me do this!" but in the end it only creates more enemies of your state.
But you're wrong, former US allies are generally far more favourable towards Iran than they are the US and Israel. You seem to have no idea how hated both of them are on the global scene. Perhaps you should look it up?

>>65103759
>they're still actively enriching uranium

>>65103775
And why exactly wouldn't they be? It's likely their number one priority since they can't trust that Israel won't be dropping a nuke on them when they fail to achieve their political goal through conventional military means.

>>65103759
>>65103775
>Schrodinger's nuclear program
Iran was days away from nukes last year and got bombed back to to being years away then
but now they where once again days away and bombed back to being years away
next year they will be days away but bombed back to being years away

>>65103787
Yes, that is how it works. They are actively enriching uranium, and getting bombed hampers that process. Again, getting a bomb is their number one priority, and they will in all likelihood work towards that goal no matter how many bombs you drop on them. And so you have two options if letting them have the bomb is not one: you get engaged in another forever war in the middle-east, except this time it's against a country half the size of CONUS and 90 million people, or you start dropping nukes.

Do you think either of those is a good option for the US and its jewish suzerain?

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>>65102779
>S-S-Stupid meme is stupid......

>>65103799
I agree that their nuclear program (to what ever end it is intended) is a problem and that if you don't think a negotiated settlement will work you need kinetic action.
but there is an inherent contradiction in how the US and isreal communicates about it
the Iranians are always right on the cusp of having nukes, they get bombed and they are right back to being at the cusp of having nukes
you can only fly that kite so many times before you lose your credibility and more importantly for the US, your domestic approval to keep this circle going.
the topic is serious enough and the danger real enough that you can communicate it not as "this is an emergency" on repeat but "this is our policy and from time to time we will take kinetic action until they renounce their program"
it also makes the US look weak to the IRGC and co.
yes the US can bomb them and claim to have stopped their nuclear program this time. but after a few times they will assume that the US doesn't really have the ability (or at least the desire to deploy it) to make them stop. so if they just keep trying they will in the end succeed

that being said there's bound to be information we don't know but the administration does

>>65102299
The navy is literally minesweeping right now. Also thanks for the free oil tankers the collection is growing.
P.S. the op is brown

>Another day another 500 million Iran is not making
>another day close t to where they need to shut off their oil pumps
Oh well, do nothing win lmao
>>65102779
Lmao none of that is true, and you know it.

>>65102531
We all know Maduro's capture was Rubio's work, then Donnie completely fucked it up by listen to some literal jew suggesting him to take over Greenland:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Lauder

basically the only thing Russia, China, and Iran are good at in the information space is cope threads like this filled with well poisoning.

>>65102237
isn't this shit already proven during the 2002 millenium challenge?

>>65102282
Logistics wins wars, and Iran is next door to the straight
You might knock out a group of people out several times with a slingshot, but until you can kill them all they can keep throwing pebbles at your wife

>>65102282
It's like there is a magical force always preventing Trump from going scorched earth. Seamen are literally shitting over each other and starving right now because Trump can't commit to any decision without putting it on pause forever. It's so fucking annoying. Either destroy the IRGC or fuck off, this is embarrassing. He can't negotiate for shit either.

>>65103935
>Straight
Strait
Fuck
>>65103360
Yes, propped up. It thrives off of cheap Japanese, Korean and European debt and economic vassalisation of those same nations (extraction via ownership, billionaire transfer and investment (usury)) while it economically dominated anyone smaller and cut off politically or economically anyone not aligned with this system to keep them in line.

Trump is single handedly killing the system that made America exceptional, both by effectively halting brain drain from Europe and Japan and killing off the goodwill of those same nations that allow the US to pillage them.

The UK, the easiest vassal due to sheer similarity of language and culture is being as inhibitive as possible to Trumps specific goals while still working with the US.
Europe is trying to escape US military purchases, tech (Microslop alternatives) and financial dominance (VISA and Mastercard alternstives)
SEA members are being weirdly pro chinese
Meanwhile Japan is also divesting behind the scenes, the 500 billion investment Trump touts has all sorts of fun clauses where it'll never see fruition, it's pure Trump theatre.

Meanwhile half of OPEC is using Yuan instead of the dollar, BRICS mutual currency is also allowing trade outside of the dollar now

Basically shits fucked and there's only one administration to blame.

>>65102994
Lmao

>>65102237
>Effortlessly
Okay Hasan.
>>65102299
We've been mine clearing for weeks.

>>65103030
Oil banked
No it is not
Not even close
You can't just turn off wells
If it has no where to go it fucks shit up nig time

>>65103382
Like clockwork isnt it

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>>65103981
Don't forget, Iran has the unwavering support of these sandy irregulars as well

>>65102237
Don’t those things get blasted whenever they try something?

>>65104081
apparently not since the Iranians seized a couple of tankers on hormuz

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>>65102237
>effortless
>Entire deep water fleet on the bottom
>has no idea where their owns mines are located
>reduced to using boats purchased from Bass-Pro with a discount code stolen from a joo website
>losing $500M per day, every day
>wellheads and pipelines nearly permanently fouled from disuse
>can't even beat the cast of a dementia-ridden dolt surrounded by the keystone kops.
>king of a pile of trash
Post victory parade, raghead. Go ahead. Do it. We'll wait.

>>65104363
Seized is a strong word considering there was a cameraman placed aboard before the actual boarding party.

Browns love the idea of spamming speed boats/fishing boats against destroyers for some reason. By all means, the USN will happily deliver you a glorious death..

>>65104415
If only they would. They're not rushing USN ships though and the USN isn't sending ships to fight through the strait.
Though I have to wonder how much damage a Burke and a few LCS could do of they formed up and forced the issue.

>>65104415
they are most likely being surveilled to identify the caves or hidden docks they come from, for later bombing

>>65104419
NTA Are you mildly retarded?
Three carrier task forces is enough for you? Sorry, you may be one of those retards who thought drones were fantastic mine-sweepers. Or trading multi-million dollar missiles from pop-up shore batteries is instantly solved with "more". The solution, moron, is unrestricted warfare. Your holy-icon is finding out that doing that makes a whole lot of people we normally have good relations with pissed off. Now I'm all for sending every single one of our B52 fleet over that coast with 30-mile wide Linebacker raid iron-bomb strikes until the end of time. But your clown-car guy won't do it now his poll numbers are shit. This is what you got backing a tv-show douchebag.

>>65104419
Yes, if only Iran would send those boats at anything other than cargo ships.

>>65102237
>mogs
>entire navy sunk
Huh?

>>65102838
>It will force them to all keep fighting
That's like asking to get shot in the foot, no one, not even China, want to back Iran because they are fucking up everyone else and the U.S will block the straits until Iran sit down and negotiate. Not to mention, what about their proxies? Hezbollah is now getting butt fucked and Yemen cannot launch any drone without thinking which one is more valuable than other without upsetting the U.S Navy. Not to mention, Iran attacked other countries that are not even at war to them and of course will demand reparation which Iran does not have. In other word, I am very confused with Iran move here

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>>65102907
>>65102237
This entire war is set up by iranian,American and Israeli plutocrats manipulating the market and abusing Pokymarket insider trading

They all hangout in the same Monaco Casinos.

>>65104444
Your analysis is sub par. There is more to war than breaking things and killing people.

>>65102237
>Superpower is losing to country with no navy
Simulation creators are getting lazy and just recycle Russian-Ukraine war at this point...

>>65104489
Just like Russian navy is winning in Ukraine,right Patel?

>>65104935
>There is more to war than breaking things and killing people
Not if you're wearing a uniform, dimwit. That is quite literally the ONLY purpose a lethal military exists to do, beyond deterrence out of fear that it will.....kill people and break things. This is literally a weapons board, cockguzzler. /pol/ is over there ----->

>>65102237
Why can't amerimutt win wars?

>>65104987
why can't brownies use a toilet?

>us military is like 80% brown people
>/k/ - YOU ARE BROWN HA HA
nobody here has served in the military

>He thinks brown is just skin color and not a state of mind.
Peak brown behavior.

>if you're brown you're not white
Get a load of einstein ITT dropping the new theory of relativity

>>65105034
It's honestly insane how much cope and seethe you arabs manage to pack into a single short post. Impressive

>>65105059
>you arabs
Is this some head canon that's too complex for my brown mind to understand because last I checked (a) Iran isn't an Arab country, and (b) I was told my name was "chang" last time we had this argument

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>how do you respond without sounding mad?
In the cool and collected manner befitting a strong and stable genius.
I knew this dipshit was going to wreck things, but he surpassed my wildest expectations.

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>>65105062
>Um ackshually if you don't know what specific flavor of arab I am, you're brown
Cool story achmed, now please go back to your mud hut and never post here again

>>65105090
You have never read a book

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>>65105091
Au contrere, I simply know how to bait and trigger brown people around the world with specific prompting points. For example, calling iranians arabs (which they are) - it's the best way to sniff em out, since absolutely nobody else gives a shit, but you sandniggers will act like it's the end of the world to be called the name of a different tribe of sandniggers

In this case it's even funnier because it's actually true. The arabs raped the persians out of existence long before Anatolia even knew what islam was, kekekekek. Keep coping and seething achmed, you will always be an arab

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>>65102536
>we won
>also send help
>and ceasefire please

>>65105139
If the Iranian state prefers to die by playing bankruptcy chicken with Uncle Sam and the House of Saud, that's perfectly acceptable.

>>65105148
>playing bankruptcy
>meanwhile Iran's ports didn't cease operations through the entirety of the war
>and tankers are paying tolls in Yuan to Iran to transit the Hormuz strait
Imagine failing so catastrophically you elevate your enemies to a regional power with claim on one of the world's most strategic straits

>>65105109
Why are you trying to talk like a looney tunes villain, is that supposed to sound cool or smart?

>>65105150
>and then one day, for no reason at all, Iran's exports and toll revenue went to 0
Imagine being so pathetic that the US considers crushing your economy a de-escalatory move.

>>65105148
I think they can stomach being a lot more bankrupt than you soft sissies can. And definitely more than the cowardly saudis.
Lmao, imagine banking on the fucking saudis as allies. The fucking saudis lol.

>>65103115
We're allowed to both dislike the IRGC and think Trump made the wrong move against them and made it stupidly. Two things can be true. Unless he escalates he's wound up strengthening them.

>>65105700
>bankruptcy is a gradient
And the brown reveals itself. Tell me, what wine goes best with a plate of indomitable will to resist? I'm thinking Sour Grape.

>>65105780
This would hit harder if the Vietnamese and the Taliban hadn't defeated America by simply resisting.

>>65106678
It would hit harder if you knew English well enough to catch the implication.

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>dude imagine aligning with the most powerful entities in one of most strategically important areas of the world!
lol @ >>65105700

>>65105170
>>and then one day, for no reason at all, Iran's exports and toll revenue went to 0
you niggers really just make shit up huh

>>65102451

>>Trump Always Cucks Out

I dont see any boomer words here, boomers are still MAGA dicksucks

>>65102531

Trump always Cucks out is a Wall Street term. It's not a Reddit meme

>>65102574

NTA but Trump Cucking out has its own index now.

>>The "Pressure index" combines one-month change in approval ratings, one-year inflation expectations and performance of the S&P 500 & t-bill yields.

The higher it goes, the greater the chances of Cucking out, by which is meant any policy reversal on any issue that affects the markets.

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>>65107735
>ESL keeps bumping his own garbage thread
How many posts are just from you alone? Is thie entire thread just a wall of your cope and seethe as everyone makes fun of you? I'd kill myself if I were you tbqh