Picked up a $200 Circassian Walnut blank for $30. Now I need a rifle to complete my 'Project: Ultimat Safari Gun'Could be a CZ, could be a Ruger, could be a Winchester.Definately a boltgun. What chamber would you pick? I have a soft spot for .375 Weatherby, it will chamber .375 H&H and still take handloads. Not favoring belted magnums though, and could be a .338-300 PRC. What other modern centerfire cartridge would you consider for your Ultimate Safari Rifle?>triple factor Captcha, really?
But I will admit leaning towards the Model 77 MK II and would consider barreling it in 9.3x62. How do you like them apples? The main game animal would be the North American Roosevelt Elk.>inb4 just .30 Aught Fud, dudeAre you trying to kill me with flacid boredom and contemptable mediocrity?
FN commercial Mauser action in 416 Rigby. If possible, a companion rifle in 280 Remington.
>>65102781Are you actually taking this on safari or is it just a larp? The reason I ask is that if you're actually going to Africa, you need to worry about what ammo you can buy there. It doesn't do you any good to set it up for the latest and greatest meme cartridge only to not be able to shoot it when your ammo was stolen at the airport. Also, what's this for exactly? You say safari but you're tossing around dangerous game cartridges & plains game cartridges in the same sentence.
>>65102836>416 Rigby. If possible, a companion rifle in 280 Remington.I totally agree to the companion rifle concept and would conceed the .280 AI as one of the most compelling of the small bore cartridges. Though I would personally favor the .25-06. >>65102856>actually taking this on safari or is it just a larp?Well, "safari" engenders the idea and romance of African hunting, but you could easily "LARP" a North American safari list of Kansas whitetailes, Arizona Coues deer, Baja California Bighorns, Montana Shiras moose, Idaho mountain goats and Colorado elk as a lifetime accomplishment for hunting with only 1 or 2 species needing anything over .30-06, if that. So building a "safari rifle" would be pure larp. For this case, any cartirdge should be accessable "enough". But for the instance of available African ammos, .375 Weatherby is ideal as an .375H&H improved. Note, I have not perused any African proshops this year.
>>65102856>you're tossing around dangerous game cartridges & plains game cartridges in the same sentence.Not prior to your post I haven't. Not until mentioning the .25-06.
>>65102922>Well, "safari" engenders the idea.....You typed a lot of words but you didn't answer the questions posed. What game and where will this rifle be used?
a Blaser luxe grade straight pull in 9.3×64 Brenneke
>>65102781I have a nice do-all rifle in a custom Mauser in .375 H&H Magnum. Peruvian action, heavy stainless barrel, traditional H&H style straight stock. It's a well balanced gun, points well and is still reasonably useful outside of africa. The 235gr Speer bullet at 2950fps shoots relatively flat and I'm told the 350gr. Degol are decently suited for thick skinned game. For pure dangerous game use, I'd want something bigger, though. Either a .416 Rigby Heym Express or a double in either .450 or .470 NE.
>>65102939>What game and where will this rifle be used?>>65102821>The main game animal would be the North American Roosevelt Elk.You mised the second post.
>>65103005>custom Mauser in .375 H&H Magnum. Peruvian action, heavy stainless barrel, traditional H&H style straight stock.Sounds beautiful. I was considering the op pic Monte Carlo style, but can see how a straihter stock would help manage perceived recoil.
>>65102984>Blaser luxe grade straight pullSounds nice, but right out.
>>6510292225-06 is patrician
>>65102939>you didn't answer the questions posed. What game and where will this rifle be used?Actually, I specifically did.>>65102922>North American safari list of Kansas whitetailes, Arizona Coues deer, Baja California Bighorns, Montana Shiras moose, Idaho mountain goats and Colorado elk
>>65103048>25-06 is patricianI wonder sometimes if the .25 Creedmore or .257Weatherby are even needed?
>>65103097No, because .257 Roberts exists.
>>65103048>>65103097>>65103341>25-06>.25 Creedmoor>.257 Weatherby>.257 Robertsof those I'd choose Weatherby
>>65103048>>65103097>>65103341>>65103356Quarter bore fans, here is a great summary artical: https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/25-caliber/I rather like the chassis mounted, velcro ammo slide.
>>65102781I'd want a 375 Ruger, it's just so much nicer to carry a normal action. I'd probably see if I could rebarrel a Tikka in it to be honest
>>65103500>375 Ruger >see if I could rebarrel a TikkaInteresting.>Tikka:T-3(99% Press Fit Inlet)>Model 695-(White Tail Hunter), Model 595 (White Tail Hunter)..........."96% Semi-Inlet"http://rifle-stocks.com/actions_available.htmAnybody with a T3 action?
>>65103031>375 H&H Magnum. Peruvian actionI also like this.>And ALL Other Mausers Available
>>65103419Thank you bro
>>65102781Ruger Hawkeye African in .416 RugerStill $7 a round but at least I don't need a $25,000 rifle to shoot it
>>65103419>velcro ammo slidehttps://www.shortactionprecision.com/collections/two-round-holder/products/sap-two-round-223-holder?variant=964548493337In magnum, too.
>>65103967>Ruger Hawkeye African in .416 Ruger>search Sportsmans warehouse>literally out of stock for 1000 miles radius
for me it's a type 99 rechambered to 404 jeffrey with a teak stock and african game scenes engraved on the bolt and the dust cover. maybe one day...
>>65102836>companion riflehttps://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/custom-rifles/matched-pair-of-custom-winchester-pre-64-model-70s-in-270-and-30-06-by-jim-dubell-aaa-walnut-banded-skeleton-conetrol-7-4-pounds-layaway.cfm?gun_id=103198158>.270, .30-06I would select a wider spread.
>>65104000They are easier to find in .375 Ruger, not unobtainium but Ruger doesn't make enough to meet demand.
>>65104105Yeah, I checked out one boomer's prized NIB collection of Ruger #1s in dangerous game big bores, mostly all limited runs, with his 'know-what-I-got' pricing. Very nice but just singles, and all factory stock, at that. He must have had over 12 rifles, all mostly different chambers.
Nice pair, good coverage.
>>65102781>Your dream safari gun?Farquharson in .577 NE.
>>65104117These are newly manufactured and sell for about $1500, you might just need to have your FFL see if he can get one from Lipsey's or whoever Ruger shipped them to.
>>65103282
>>65103731I just figured if Tikkas come in 9.3x62 then it should handle 375 ruger
>>65102781>.375 H&H is prolific in Africa, can be loaded very versatilely, and is the legal minimum for big game in a lot of African countries >drop box magazine profile, pic rel8d>express sights >ebony forend tip > high lpi checkering w/ fleur de lis borders>cartridge trap on the toeline of the stock>leathered rubber buttpad>double beaded pancake cheekpiece>controlled feed action of some kind w/ integral claw scope bases >set trigger>model 70 style 3-pos safety>glass bedding>rust blued finish
Any reason a 50cal wouldn't do the job?
>>65102781.444 Marlin or you're a fag
>>65106339Ya the guns are huge and heavy.
>>65106336>>double beaded pancake cheekpieceIs this more attractive than the rollover cheak rest?
>>65106380>.444 MarlinPoor choice. I like it, but a poor choice for a safari rifle.
>>65106397Not necessarily
picrel but in 300 or 375 h&h
>>65102781I own the CZ-550 in .458 Lott. Bought it back before the faggots did covid for 1,000 bucks, after tax. I fucking love it. I want to get into Elk hunting in the NW. 500 grain bullets are not flat, but I won’t be taking shots beyond 100 yards often because of dense forest.
>>65107198Easily, one of the nicest rifles itt.
>>65107388>.458 LottIs it possible to have "too much gun"? Side question, can you really load the .458 Lott with #8 shot?https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1169991206
>>65106464Pretty fun in a single shot handgun lol
Whatever I could get in .500 A square…. Considering looking to see what I could buy to convert…. Fwiw I have no urge to actually safari hunt, I just like stuff with a big boom, and as much as I’d like a 500,600,700 NE…. The 500 a square is probably the most practical to reload for in terms of brass availability for conversion…
>>65108437>actually safari huntI would call any expedition for specific game or even just a guided hunt as a "safari". You could further screen that by adding "exotic" term to your game animal, but is a warthog any more "exotic" to someone in Lethoso than a Javalina is to someone in Arizona? Imo, you could plan a penguin hunt to Tierra del Fuego with a .17HMR or a caribou hunt in Yukon Territory with a .257 WBY and still be on "safari".
>>65108682I should clarify that I shoot solely because I enjoy target shooting and kabooms… I have no issue with hunting, but I’m not interested in picking up the gear and expertise to do it regularly vs just going out and blasting steel with absurdly large rounds..
>>65109844>I shoot solely because I enjoy target shootingThis is a great pasttime! Have you thought of moving beyond paper? These are so affordable you could buy a whole herd (+6). Five large and a small for the calf. You could even paint one white and slaughter the sacred buffalo to piss off the local medicine man!
>>65110981>whole herd
Heym SR30 in .375 Ruger
>>65111338>Heym SR30Are the straight pulls really great pulls? My only straight pull is a Browning T-bolt, a Belgian made .22lr.
In .243Win, his should be fine for 90% of the antelope plains game. And it looks great.
I feel elephant hunting should be banned completely. >inb4 herd management >inb4 hunting fees actually help them
>>65114004Nah the problem ones gotta go.
>>65114805And if you applied this reasoning to the human cultures, what is the resulting analysis?
>>65102781>1896 Mauser action>7x57mm>Double set triggers>Full jewling on the action and engaving>Full length Mannlicher style stock>Diopter irons and offset scope
>>65102781safari never appealed to me muchmy rmost loved rifle is a mauser action, match chamber lapua barreled timney trigger pillar bedded with a floated barrel in 270 in a thumbhole stock with a cheek riser and 10 round fixed mag with a 40x 50mm on it with 1/8 moa clicks. IT wuld kill anything in Africa fine I expect
>>65114995Kill every snarky know-it-all like youAlso black and brown people
>>65114995Nothing but positives.
>>65110981I’ve debated picking up a set of rams and other various targets from the old style steel matches. But for now I’ve got a pretty good collection of gongs. On the fun side if you hit a 1/2 12 inch gong that’s hanging about a foot down from the crossbar with 500 bushwacker it’ll throw it straight back, weight be damned. If you nail it just right with 500 mag it’ll wrap around the crossbar….
>>65115563>On the fun sideNice!
>>65103282Gay
>>65116603So u like it?
>>65102781>Circassian Walnut blank for $30.What started it all (this thread). Still leaning towards .375 Weatherby, chambers .375H&H, handloads the blown out cases a mite faster. A steal at $30. I have a nice log round of Indian Rosewood, too. I need to get that sawn up for my plains game rifle: 6.5x55Swede or .25PRC?
>>65118092>6.5x55Swede or .25PRC?I could be open to as heavy as .27 Nosler...
>>65118092did you buy the blank like that or did you cut it into that shape yourself? if it was me I would have left more wood around the butt for a cheek piece.
>>65118125As is. Maybe 2.5" thick, there should be enough. Also just saw thisCZ 550 American in 9.3x62: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1173917560
>>65118076The thought of him plowing my ass on top of a lion pelt in a blind puts butterflies in my stomachIf you catch my drift
>>65118397Hmm, kinda gay.
>>65102781If aks are good enough for poachers, a nice comfy m16a2 or similarly generic ar should be good enough as well. Just bring bonded soft points or those barnes all-copper hps in a high weight. Don't overthink things, you fucking noguns underage nerd kids
>>65118932Sh.should I bring a Glok, t.too?
>>65118941Only when you head into jo'burg for hiv+ prostitutes
>>65118397>him plowing my ass>>65118946>for hiv+ prostitutesI can't tell which is worse. Y'all y'all sickos.
The case for trophy hunting as a game management tool.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/21/hunters-who-believe-shooting-big-game-can-save-africa-wildlife?
>>65118187>thisCZ 550 American in 9.3x62: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1173917560Currently @$1225, 9 more days of bidding. Personally, I wouldn't want to pay more than current bid. But I haven't been tracking these.
>>65102781Safari rifle threads don't get much traction here, becuse it's more about guns than video games. Case in point, the guy who wants to hunt with an AR.
>>65102781Does a .22lr have any place on the African plains? Like monkey culling?
>>65124190Still getting other people bringing up a lot of suggestions anyway so I'd say it's a successful threadI've got all my tacticool wants covered right now, butI'm gonna start looking at deer hunting this fall and probably won't go for anything so fancy but it's fun to see what people suggest
>>65118187>9.3x62I'm just sold on it for a heavy medium bore. I already shoot .375Win in M94BB.https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/the-surprising-93x62-rifle-cartridge
>The9.3x62mm Mauseris a heavier, medium-bore European cartridge designed for large/dangerous game, offeringroughly 30-40% more energy (approx. 3,500-3,600 ft-lbs) than a standard .30-06 Springfield. While the 9.3x62 fits in standard-length actions similar to the .30-06, it fires heavier bullets (286-grain typical vs. 150-180 grain for .30-06), resulting in deeper penetration and higher recoil.About 120yo, it may be trending in North America. Mark my words.
>>65102781Why do I make things so hard? Why don't I just get the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Alaskan in 9.3x62? Why do I have to be different and get excited about H&Ks "Last Hunting Rifle"?https://www.armeriadionisi.it/products/hk-slb2000-9-3x62Fucking mags are $700/ea! But, yeah. That would be cool.
>>65127821>hk slb2k in 9.3x62
>>65126702>>9.3x62>I'm just sold on it for a heavy medium bore.Definately decided on cartirdge. Auction ending tomorrow on a nice rifle, but haven't placed a bid yet. Just a matter of $2400. Then a scope, then a spare mag, then ammo and dies and components... rounds from PPU are abt $2/ea, not bad at all. "Expensive" 9.3x62 is $5/ea.
Winchester lever action M1895 in 9.3x62: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0mweS9OBFpATeddy's was in .405Win. Either should do based upon pic rel.
>>65102781>Now I need a rifle to complete my 'Project: Ultimat Safari Gun'All I wanted was a nice rifle for my stock blank.
>>65126600>Like monkey culling?I know a guy who shoots baboons with a .220 Swift.
>>65103059So, no. There’s no need for a “safari” gun in North America and it’s just a larp.
>>65132014You can have a butterfly safari and still be on safari, silly. That's not larp, my point is well made. You just can't handle it.
>>65132154Holy shit guys we got the real adventures of bungalow bill over here
>>65103031>>65103735Thanks. Finally got home from vacation.Poastin' safari rifle inspo
>>65134145Easily the nicest rifle itt. Very much admire every aspect. Trying to get a reply from a seller now, but not as nice example as yours. Hoping to take possession within the next x days. Oh, where is your bottom metal from? And is the rcvr silver finish in NP3?
>>65134903Thanks. I wish I could say more about the gun, but I bought it at an auction (For a steal, seeing what it is). Most of the hardware ist from Recknagel, I think NECG is their US distributor, floorplate could be from Reimer Johanssen. As for the finish, I think the barrel is stainless with the rest in the white. Rifle was advertised as stainless, but that can't be. As such I am debating having it DLC coated.
>>65136357>Recknagel>open hours>8a-6phttps://www.recknagel.de/enSuch a late start time. In the US, i am more used to working hours of 6a-4p. 4 on, 3 off. One job I had was 6a-2p, no lunch. Are European work days typically starting so late in the day?
>load as hollow points>load as polytip holllow points>flip bullet for solidshttps://cuttingedgebullets.com/products/366-9-3mm-210gr-esp-raptorSounds cutting edge to me.
>>65136423That's pretty typical over here. Regular work hours is 8AM-5PM with an hour lunch break in between. I was always under the impression that Americans literally work 9-5 which always struck me as a little late in the day. Personally I'm working flex time and usually go in at 7 to go home at 4.
>>65102781I have 6x20 9.3x62 280grn PRVI Partizan ordered and on the way.
I uave always like the German #4 retical for low light and fast acquisition. This seems ideal for a safari gun as a primary sight to the ubiquitous 3-leaf express sights.
>>65108248I bought it because I saw someone in a boomer forum showing an entry wound at the chest and an exit wound out the ass of an Elk the size of a Minivan. I was sold.
>>65133238I tried to tell him.
>>65115060you actually are describing what I want to do with my hunting rifle minus the jeweling/Diopter sights but with buckhorn sights and I want a lever release floorplate and a 3 position safety.
>History>More than twenty different 9.3mm cartridges evolved during the period 1884 to 1928 however only a few survived. The 9.3x57 Mauser gained a small following but its popularity waned after 1905 after the release the more powerful 9.3x62 cartridge designed by Berlin Gun maker Otto Bock.This 9.3x62 artical can only be called exhustive! You would be well served just reading the History section, quoted in part above. But reading on is recommended over fluffy and patronizing American Rifleman articals written to serve the advertizers. Lol, picrel.https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/9.3x62.html
>>65111967I should have bid on this .243Winny. File this under "one that got away". Looking back at this now, and I see the depth of the surface beauty I originally saw.
>>65111967>90% of the antelope plains gameMaybe 60%. Btw, a CZ 550 w/a Vortex (that could be fixed).
>>65102856>just a larp?Counter point.>7. Be pointlessly creative.>Engaging your imagination just for the sake of it can reduce stress and liberate you from perfectionism. “It doesn’t matter if there’s no audience for it. It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad,” Fortune said. She paints with watercolors. >“Just little ways to use the creative side of my brain.” - Carley Fortune Married.
>>65139082>be me>enable traking updates>pkg transiting the us like a meth mule>shipping exceptionWtf, shipping exception? It finally made to to the right state after bouncing around like a retarded idiot.
Pretty sure I have posted about an Ml1 Garand in 9.3x62 before. I know there are Garands that have been custom chambered and even a double barrel Garand?
Here is a really nice side-by-side comparison of a $1500 CZ550 Safari Magnum vs. a $15,000 Holland and Holland Safari Express rifle.https://youtu.be/QVoXJmq2Q9M?si=sanAVLzSg0ve7h_zNormally, these jokers are absolute turkeys, this guy is more on par with USOG, the only gun tuber worth a damn. I do question is assertion that a 0.50" bbl difference will result in 50 to 100fps difference in bullet velocity. I feel that is about 2x too high. But, he obviously knows the rifles and is out on my league with his Holland and Holland. At this point, and for years now, I am all in for the CZ550.
>>65148011>Wtf, shipping exceptionI'll get over it.
>>65103982This link also has a nice little .22 mag slide. I'll get 3 or 4 of those just to keep my spare .22 mags with the rifle they go to.
Tiny brain.
Ruger #1 in .30 PRC. As good as any .300 mag?
>>65155007One half a double rifle, 35% the class (subjective, ymmv), 1/10th the price.
>>65152638Big heart.
>>65149348>Ml1 Garand in 9.3x62This would be a viable custom job. Ignore the oragne tip, that just means it's dangerous. >9.3 sp rn by .30-06 fmj tracer
>>65155499Custom?Lothar made barrels. It was as simple as bluing the barrel and screwing it in.
>>65155507prefit garand barrels don't exist. they all need to be finish reamed for headspace.
>>65156663Not true at all.
>>65155333Hear from African guides' content that the shoulder's preferred, if they haven't winded them (hold over from last century and less reliable ammo). Where on the shoulder blade exactly?
>>65156753>Where on the shoulder blade exactly?I have no experience with this and focus more on bear and elk internal anatomy. Whitetail and even mulies are not much of a concern, with our local whities looking like German shepards with long legs. Frankly, we have it easy.
>>65156753>Where on the shoulder blade exactly?
