The 15 biggest military spenders in 2025>6 arabic countries, 9 middle eastern ones
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>>65106050damn didnt know estonia is arabic or middle eastern
>>65106055Middle eastern is over militarized. Not a single western country in the top, it's pretty interesting data. Also Russia somehow spending less than peace time Algeria lmao.
>>65106061the Tatar emirate of estonia is part of the greater middle east
>>65106062that's based off of percentage, not how much is actually spent.
>>65106065I'm going to get this printed and send it to my Estonian buddy in Tallin.
>>65106061Now you do
>>65106050Poland is the 11th biggest spender, at $55 billion, and is not listed hereDEBUNKED
>>65106050this is a list of backward & fucked up countries.
>Burkina Fasoomegalul these guys arent making it to the end of the decade
>>65106083>>65106115Yes, it's obviously in %of GDP... Pic related for 2025 absolute numbers, with PPP adjusts for China/Russia
>>65106146Why do China and Russia deserve cope PPP stats while nobody else gets them? Not even India, a nation famous for whipping out PPP to say how they're not dirt poor. Are they implying they're both poorer that Poland?
>>65106216PPP estimates are hard to calculate for military stuff, those websites are decent https://militaryppp.com/blog/https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/debating-defence-budgets-why-military-purchasing-power-parity-matters
>>65106225>PPP estimates are hard to calculate for military stuffthey're equally useless for everything else except poverty-tier food imports
>>65106225Put it this way, China doesn’t really conduct overseas military operations or run foreign bases, and most of its soldiers aren’t on salary. That means a bigger share of its defense budget goes straight into equipment procurement and training, making their spending more efficient compared to the US. Chinese $300 billion worths more than American $900 billion
>>65106264you can get value out of it when you look at personnel costbut if you think that a spear chucker with an AK set to 1800 firepower is just as effective as a marine and only costs a fraction in wages you're also retarded it's all guesswork to a degree in the end
>>65106216India doesn't really make military hardware so while PPP might let them field a bit more manpower per dollar it doesn't let them buy more equipment.China and Russia can make shit for cheaper than the US.
>>65106274>It's worth that much because it just is!So it's a blatant cope by poors? Might as well start bring up that 300 billion worth of Chinese/Russian weapons actually gets you when put against 300 billion worth of Western ones. Moving away from a basic dollar to dollar spending comparison just makes things worse of third worlders.>Hint: a bunch of burnt out S300s and a gaped asshole.
>>65106146PPP is a good measure for how well the average Joe lives in a country since lower housing and food prices does boost a lower paycheck.PPP doesn't really work for militaries because Germany isn't gonna sell you a Leopard 2 tank for cheaper just because your country is poorer. Everything militaries use like fuel, steel, ammo, missiles are all traded globally with internationally set prices.
>>65106307>Everything militaries use like fuel, steel, ammo, missiles are all traded globally with internationally set prices.Everything that goes into an automobile is traded globally at internationally set prices yet US automakers are desperate to ban Chinese imports because they can make a better car for $20,000 than the US can for $50,000.
>>65106312Chinese cars are worse than Korean cars.
>>65106146Logically shouldn’t America be getting some kind of huge boost? If we make an F35 for ourselves surely it costs us less than Denmark pays when they buy one. If we’re gonna say russian spending is actually higher because dollars are worth more there, then wouldnt the US savings on making their own hardware work out to higher return per dollar relative to importer countries? Does the PPP take into account gas and oil production? Nationalized industry? Why in God’s name would you introduce such an insanely complicated variable if it’s going to be unevenly applied? If America bought SU 35s from Russia (for whatever reason) and made the transaction in Russia would they get a PPP-adjusted spending boost? Their dollars go further there, right?
>>65106050what is algeria gearing up for?
>>65106513ask Morocco and Mali
>>65106467Nominal GDP numbers are sensitive to exchange rates while PPP is sensitive to a basic basket of consumer goods. Both tell you something about a national economy, but aren't perfect measures.
>>65106312You're comparing a US made truck or SUV with a Chinese sedan. If you look at something like a US made Toyota Corolla you can get it for $23,000https://www.toyota.com/corolla/And of course American car manufacturers wouldn't want Chinese cars to enter the US market because it would be more competition for them.
>>65106050Myanmar is Arabic? Ukraine, Armenia and Azerbaijan are Middle Eastern?
>>65106293>Russia can make shit for cheaper than the US.Oh yeah, T14 Armatas are so much cheaper compared to western tanks, and don't forget wages, signing bonus of $50k is pennies compared to extremely expensive western soldiers. Russian military is just so much more efficient, how could pathetic western countries even compare to the REAL size of mighty bear's military, being triple the size of an entire Ukrainian economy, and no, you don't get to question if that makes sense.
Algeria, India and other 5th world countries entire GDP should be considered a war investment. Their population is similar to a radioactive poison that's slowly spilling over Europe and the US and destroying their population from inside. Any amount of money spent into feeding them and letting them reproduce should be considered a direct attack on western civilization
>>65106050>russia >7%lmao, that's what they spent in peacetime. Try 25-30%.
>>65106824They can.The US is pretty much bankrupt after two wars we weren't even doing much of any fighting in. Just standing around occupying Iraq and Afghanistan cost is like a trillion dollars.Russian and Ukraine are both producing vast quantities of weapons which would cost MANY times as much to produce in the US.
>>65106274You left out the massive corruption that exists within the PLA as well as the corrupt businesses the PLA owns.
>>65110305>The US is pretty much bankrupt
>>65107842This is another case of retards taking ziggers seriously. Zigger-in-chief officially says the number is 7% and hides the 23% in creative accounting, therefore it's only 7%. This is very typical with Americans, they seriously think that Russian numbers are truthful.
>>65106050fixed that for you OP, just wasn't quite blurry enough
>>65106146>Saudi Arabia outspending FranceWho would win in a fight, the Saudis or the French? No help, no nukes.
>>65106225>>65106216>>65106146PPP is logically unsound and all major economic institutions call it shit (rightly). I've explained why it is shit before and it has nothing to do with 'hard to calculate for military stuff' it's flat out hard to calculate for ANYTHING. It is entirely reliant on internal information as well. For example, you could say that, I dunno, Russia has great PPP because it has lots of great value resources and stuff... Until you look at the details for those resources, where it will say, I dunno, grain and potatoes are X price and then you look deeper and see it was based on the last official government statistic in 2010. You then look further and realise that the official who wrote these statistics was making shit up. But the PPP calculation still uses his numbers. China can say they have great value for concrete in their country, or steel or loads of products, but PPP doesn't account for the quality of the product, just what China says the value of their product is... Which could, again, be old outdated information or flat out made up.PPP is pure bullshit and is used nearly exclusively by 'growing economies' or states where face-saving and strongman politics are key parts of society. So, your BRICS etc.
>>65110574>>65107842I mean this isn't particularly new or unique. The Bongs said they're raising their defense spending.... Which they do. But they didn't actually spend more. They just took money from X budget and put it in Y budget and made the Y budget cover the requirements that the X budget did by combining the two institutions into one, but you can truthfully say you've raised Y's budget by £3bn or whatever because you gave them X's budget on Y's sheets. So it is a bigger number. The difference is you've just shifted the responsibilities, no extra money has gone anywhere because you still gotta do X's shit under Y's umbrella.
>>65110938>Y-You too!!! WHATABOUT!!!!Brits don't hide one quarter of their total military spending in various "private" enterprises that are funded by "private" loan structures where a bank loans rubles then immediately credits them to a MIC account as a "private" loan.
>>65110958Forgot the crucial chain: Banks buy rubles from the central bank, then loan those rubles to the private companies as "private" loans, when in reality it's just the central bank directly funding those MIC companies. This makes defense spending seem lower than it actually is.
>>65106050i honestly dont get algeria and omanarabia and qatar got jack shit to show for all their military budget
>>65110968Algeria has an active civil war to its East, an Islamic insurgency to its south, an ancestral enemy (Morocco) to it's west and to it's north across the sea it has it's old colonial master france. Oman is in the ME and is thus surrounded by sand niggers.
>>65110305They can't. pidor Khanate needs to invent imaginary numbers to pretend that they are 2nd army in the world and in fact a peer opponent for the USA, so they lie about their budget, then pretend that military is part of PPP's basket of goods and yeah, their budget is totally $500bBut the reality screeches and reminds us all, that ziggeria shouldn't use PPP, it should use SAP, because if there is a thing pidoria is truly an outlier, it is it's Subhuman Aspect. It's no longer early 20th century, a time where russhorde could sell 1m pidoraskash to slavery, buy sets of tooling and force remaining pidoserfs to hammer out weapons. You can't force modern serf to craft semiconductors and gloat, how thanks to average wage of $200 russia can totally outproduce the west, because all what you will end up with is fake reports and no locally produced stuff, just smuggled shit (bought with massive markups thanks to sanctions). The real military budged thanks to all the corruption is probably less than $100b>But if that's the case, then they would struggle in Ukrainey-yeah, they would. I mean, $500b military budget with almost 2 decades of preparation for war and gargantuan Soviet legacy surely would devour Ukraine alive otherwise.
