>Small core of elite well-trained soldiers supported heavily by drone forces defeating a vastly larger force of conscripted poorly trained and equipped enemy soldiers reliant on human wave attacks and sheer numbersWarhammer 40k predicted the Ukraine War
>>65106077Just because you put blue and yellow borders on the sides doesn't mean we don't recognize Russians when we see them anon
>>65106096russians in denial, yes.
>>65106077shouldn't you be chipmunking in a dacha by now Muhammadikov?
>>65106077LOL, things must be really bad if Russian shills are trying this bullshit again.
>>65106096That is obviously not russia, the streets are too clean.
>>65106165>in order to resolve a manpower shortageCan we see it?
>>65106178>AFP authorRight, the Russian sympathizer, why should we believe them, especially when their sources are conveniently anonymous?
>>65106066every dystopia is secretly a documentary, especially warhammer
>year 5 of the 10 day special military operation >with no more tanks left, Russian spring offensive is limiting to shitposting online
>>65106220>Viktor Kevliuk, Olesya Favorska, Andriy Zagorodnyuk, Ulviyya Asadzade, Borys Sachalko, Asami TerajimaMost of those names are Russian, and one of them is Chinese, so they'd all have reasons to show bias in favor of RussiaThose are Russian names anon
>>65106183>Europeans are retardedNews at 11
>>65106077>back to staged "conscription" videosWell, that's a sign that something blew up in Russia again, and that there isn't even any territorial gains to cope with.
>>65106151They arePurim’s government admitted the economy is in trouble, and that reserves have been used up (they’re selling off what gold Russia has)Russian monthly losses are now far outstripping monthly recruitment figures Almost every major oil refinery has been damaged, some of which will take months to repair Russian citizens are actually complaining about the regime on social media and even television nowThe cracks are showing, so the vatniks are panickingAll they can do as the lose ground in Zaporizhzhia is accuse Ukraine of having a manpower issue (while ignoring their own and the fact they’re training children to be soldiers now)
>>65106165Yes, Russians are the ones who invented a word for the desperate propaganda story they've been trying to push since literally 2022. Took you a while to notice, eh?>Denial sure is a hell of a mindset.Yeah, as is projection. You're doing a good job showcasing both, pidor.>muh manpower shortagesStill a bigger problem for the ziggers than Ukraine LMAO.>>65106183Nice AI-generated headline, retard. (PS: That's the base assumption now whenever you don't post a link, pidor.)
why is russia losing?
>>65106253>gets his propagand abullshit called out>but whataboutLMAO nobody cares, pidor. Stay losing.
>>65106269>Ukraine is grabbing 50-year-olds off the streetCan we see it?
>>65106269Dude. Do you have a strategy other than projection, projection and more projection? Standards at the FSB are hitting new lows, I guess.>muh Ukraine grabbingYou mean grabbing the odd FSB stooge. Which is like 10% of your dumbass videos, mixed in with the ~90% you russkies had to try and stage outright. Also you keep re-using the same ones from several years ago too much. It makes it even more obvious.>Russia has a huge populationAnd yet is in a deep recruiting crisis, far worse than any of the issues Ukraine has. So keep coping, seething and dilating. Putin's gonna have to conmscript you and send you to die in a ditch outside Donetsk before this is over, and you can't stop it.
I like Ad Mech :)
>izzatWhat's with this retarded babble.
>>65106340>izzatTurning on your call center allies already? Things must be going horribly for muscovy.
>>65106340>izzatAh, so you’re a pajeet
>>65106306Is busification a pun on Russification?
>>65106066>Small core of elite well-trained soldiers>defeating a vastly larger force of conscripted poorly trained and equipped enemy soldiers reliant on human wave attacks and sheer numbersWhere? I'm not denying the Russians are incompetent, but numbers have been fairly equal since 2022.
>>65106410The Russians have consistently lied about the numbers of soldiers they have to cover up how many people they’ve conscripted
>im sure to win because my range is superior
>>65106573Even if they lie, western intelligence agencies will still have rough estimates based on the number of Russian divisions, sizes of military bases, the job market (=more soldiers, less workers) and many more factors. There is no way that the Russians are somehow able to conceal the existence of millions of soldiers in the age of satellites and the internet.
>>65106588Regardless, the Russians are still able to use their forces as if they were larger because with 8 times the recruitable population they’re very cavalier with their lives
>>65106066In this metaphor what’s the mental domination of the Tau by the Ethereal caste? And what’s the part where the eldar kick started tau technological development
>>65106410When you look at those numbers, think about how Ukraine has the vast majority of the logistical side of its military within its own borders while most of Russia's does not count as "active in the area." You're basically looking at Russia's number of combat troops and local logistics/command vs the near entirety of Ukraine's military.
>>65106605>in this metaphor what’s the mental domination of the Tau by the Ethereal caste? Ukrainian nationalism and traditionalism from their former experience dealing with Soviet progressivism and tyranny >And what’s the part where the eldar kick started tau technological developmentWestern aid
>>65106761And it’s cheaper for the Eldar to give the Tau some old tech than it is for them to have to fight those battles themselves
>>65106787Isnt eldar tech just human tech+++?
>>6510676170s NATO castoffs are outside of what slavs can even imagine. That's why Russia is convinced that they must be facing the entirety of NATO's power righy now.
>>65106810Not quite, there’s different tech ‘branches’, the Eldar achieved the peak of psychic tech empowered by their own natural faith, the necrons achieved the peak of non-psychic tech empowered by C’tan, and the Tau look like they’re probably gonna be a mix between the two, using mostly non-psychic tech but with some psyker empowered tech via their faith in the Greater Good goddess.In any case, all 3 factions are still far better off than the Imperium, whose only advanced tech is stuff they can barely produce at all.
>>65106877300k russia dead, 100k ukranian dead.Hopefuly this fucking waste of life ends before we hit one million
>>65106877The current estimates for Ukrainian casualties stand at 56,000, not a million.
>>65106863The tau don't have psykers so they can't be a mix of the two. That would be humanity.>>65106810That would be votann tech, because it is literally just human tech made by people that lost less of their tech infrastructure during the fuckpocalypse.
>>65106909>The tau don't have psykersThey do have psyker auxillaries though
>>65106863>>65106909>Human have las weapons>Eldar have laser but better>Humans use meltas>Eldars have melta but better and call it a lance
>>65106893Remembering that time when Trazyn's own deathmark said he could kill abbadon in 4 to 5 shoots
>zigger shill gets BTFO'd>sudden 40k derail
>>65106877>muh kidnapsStill trying to push this angle, nekulturnij pidor? It's still only happening in Russia btw, outsideof the odd FSB stooge getting vanned and the staged propaganda shoots you so adore.>>65106915>zigger seething so hard, he can't evne type anymore
>>65106994>You cant talk about 40k in a tau threadHoly nigga if you wanna talk about russians sending their turtle tank to get droned do it.
>>65106863>tau psychic tech>greater good goddesswhat the fuck did I miss>>65106877wrong script, we're not on facebook ranjeesh
>>65107016>what the fuck did I missTau incorporated so many auxillaries their collective psychic power is manifesting a goddess of the greater good
>>65106066This isn't a real 40k thread, it's refugees from >>>/k/ trying to start unkraine threads outside of /k/ and /pol/.Talk more models or tau or risk thread deletion.
>>65107026>doesn't even dispute it>spams random gifs>>65107027Also you're doubleposting and trying way too hard. They really are threatening to send oyu to the Donbas, aren't they?
>>65107022so how are they not fucked? wasn't the only thing keeping them from being raped by demons their non-presence in the warp? have the ethereals loosened their grip or what
>>65107109Plot armor, like always.The Tau have never had a right to exist in the setting in the way they do, but somehow they manage to stay alive.
>>65107084>continues seething even more transparently>tried to own others over a typo, while having thirdie ESL levels of grammar, punctuation and capitalization>throws in some projection to bootYou're a real lolcow, aren't you?
>>65107123Fuck that, I played farsight enclave because i like mecha but I'm not a gay communist who hates meleeif it wasn't for tau i wouldn't have discovered my true love (necronchads) and would have stuck with battletech>>65107137arguing with a retard just brings ou down to his level anon, let him seethe into the void, it will piss him off more
>>65106066Something weird that I found out, alot of the good tau books are written by a Vietnamese guy.So as a result alot of the "cannonical" depictions of tau culture is heavily based on Vietnamese, Chinese, and Cambodian culture but the extreme desire for bloody civil war mitigated by the presence of the ethereals.I can't quite say I dislike any 40k factions they all fill a specific militaristic niche there's really good stuff of all of them, even chaos can be good when GW isn't violently jerking them off.[spoiler]tho the BL writers for eldar and SoBs need to be lined up against the wall and shot, it's literally all just borderline slanderous humiliation porn[/spoiler]
>>65107109>so how are they not fucked?Same thing keeping the Imperium aliveSuperior firepower
>>65106994>posts about 40k in a 40k thread are "derailing"
>>65107123>tau exist for players who might feel "yucky" about all that misogyny, Christian nationalism™ chauvinism, and overall "problematic" content that plagues most races in warhammerUhhh...where?The Imperium has females in almost every position, explicitly rejects Christianity and nationalism, and are fine with trans people and other progressive groups.The Tau by contrast practice eugenics and are a straight up fascist state.
>>65107109>so how are they not fucked?Faith and firepower
>>65106931If Fuegan wants to call his weapon a lance he can call his weapon a lance. If you have a problem with that you can talk to the complaints department, which is what he calls his big ass axe.
>>65106588But has the CIA found EXEGOL!?!
>>65107027hi chat
>>65107203Ukes don't have to press-gang as much as any other invaded nation. Most places go right to Volksturm.
>>65106588And the western intelligence says it's 14:1
>>65107807Russia in Ukraine is going precisely how thirdies try to meme The US performance when we slap some shithole. In reality, we swoop in with alien level tech and fuck them to death. Russia has never ever acheived superiority anywhere on land or sea. Every one of their "victories" is hollow shit they had no power to cause. Now contrast that with say Poland who HAS captured Moscow. Or the Cossack Hetmanate who regularly bent russia over a bench in trade and culture, so much so that this began the butthurt Russian bullshit of "WE INVENTED SLAVIC EVERYTHING!".Russia is STILL getting their ass kicked by local negroes this century.
>>65107807>>651074893-day SMO in its fifth year status?Russian elite armored formations status?Russian air superiority status?VDV status?155th Marines status?Russification and denazification of Ukraine status?Quoting yourself and pretending to be two different anons status?
>>65107877Huge American failure, sign that Iran outright won the war: One F-35 lightly damagedMassive Russian win, sign that Ukraine will be imminently defeated: picrel
>>65107876Sure, Russia has 12.6 Million active soldiers in Ukraine then.
>>65107886>hashad*
>>65107889You might argue that they are still there
>>65107887>posts an Arknights reference
>>65107913>Arknightsmyriad days and nights of peace have finally come to a cease
>>65106066The Tau were defeated in the Damocles Gulf campaign though. Pushed entirely out of the Gulf and had one of their home worlds invaded and were getting wrecked by operation hydra until the tyranids showed up and both sides decided to call it quits
>>65107936The Tau retook all of their worlds and then some. The Imperiun forces were literally escorted out of Tau space at gunpoint from Tau ships. Yes, they left early because of the Tyranid invasion, but the Damocles Crusade was always going to fail, Tau reinforcements were pouring in and the crusade forces were slowly being whittled down through a war of attrition. The only thing the Tyranid Invasion did was let the war end quicker for the Tau and let the crusaders leave with their lives intact in such a manner that the Imperium wouldn’t execute them all for failure and cowardice.
>>65107950>escorted out at gun point. They weren't. Tau aren't even warp capable so even if you didn't make this up it would not be possible>retook all the damocles worldsThey retook their 2 sept worlds (against 0 opposition) but not the human worlds which had been the point of the campaign. Farsight would eventually take those over but that was way later and not related to the crusade>always going to failIt literally didn't though. The Cardinal called the crusade to clear the human worlds of the Tau, which they did, then ordo xenos decided hey since we are here anyway let's fuck with them a little. The crusade met all of it's objectives.
>>65107985In which case it would just be a tie because both sides achieved their objectives. The Tau successfully goaded the Imperium into attacking them, got experience from the ordeal, proved the Imperium can be beaten, and set the ground stage for their future expansion, while the Imperium got to temporarily retake a couple lost human worlds.
>>65107950>Tau reinforcements were pouring inHow were they meant to do so when its canon Tau lack FTL
>>65108004>lack FTLNo, they have warp drives, but very shitty ones that take more time to get places but on the flip side are much safer than Imperial warp drives.
>>65106265poor planning and leadership
>>65106549>>65106573explains why russia is losing
>>65106241>stagedYou are as bad as the ziggers.
>>65108004>when its canon Tau lack FTLNo they don't. Not been the case for years. They have the AL-38 Slipstream Module, thought it is being 'improved' on since a disaster. Prior to this they had slow but working FTL in the form of Gravitic Drives and Gravitic Hooks... And then GW went 'actually no' and removed that in 8th, only to add the AL-38 back in and go 'err yeah it worked but not really, they're gonna fix it'.>>65108049They do but not. They use ZFR Horizon Accelerator Engine currently, which is 'near-light speed'. They use it a bit like a skipping stone on a lake, where they bounce off the warp multiple times or some shit, but it's not as fast. They then created the AL-38 (again they did have FTL prior to this but GW changed it) and then the disaster led to them pushing it away to work on it. THEN they made the Startide Nexus, which is a FTL portal (and basically an evolution of Gav Thorpes ship which had a FTL warp drive thing which GW clearly didn't want to be a thing).So they DO have FTL it's just not FTL as we know it (i.e, attached on ships and works properly).
>>65107993>The Tau successfully goaded the Imperium into attacking themI don't know how clear it is this was actually their goal. They had a very flimsy grasp on the size/scale of the Imperium. Some thought the damocles gulf was the entire imperium and got a real brown trousers moment. >got experience from the ordealOnly part of your position I agree with. However that cuts both ways and the primary Tau experience was holy shit let's try to avoid that happening again. They did learn about or confirm Titans, astartes, and the existence of an Imperial navy, which they did not know about before. >proved the Imperium can be beatenThey lost every single engagement on land and in space against the Imperium so that's a stretch. >set the ground stage for their future expansionI don't see how getting two of their sept worlds genocided, their navy absolutely shattered, all their human collaborators blammed and one of their core sept worlds trashed is them actively setting the stage for anything. They achieved their objective of : don't go extinct holy shit what are those things omg! So both sides did what they were trying to do but you're giving the Tau way too much credit
>>65108235>yesnoyesnoyesnoFucking GW can't keep their own lore straight for 5 fucking minutes.
>>65108510>I don't know how clear it is this was actually their goal.Well, farsight speculated as much, by getting the Imperium to launch a crusade they were able to spread the Imperium thin in that area and ensure they'd be crusade-free for their next major expansion.>However that cuts both waysEh, kind of, the Imperium is too big and too sluggish to really take advantage of their experience, we haven't seen any Imperial tech dedicated to fighting the Tau for example, but we do have a few examples of the Tau adopting tech specifically in response to fighting Imperials.>They lost every single engagement on land and in space against the Imperium so that's a stretch.The largely won the ground war, the Imperium had gotten stuck hard on the first major planet they encountered, and they renovated their navy to have a dedicated naval military after their experience with the Imperium since before they only had a naval militia of mostly civilian ships.>I don't see how getting two of their sept worlds genocidedThe collective population of both of those worlds was in the tens of thousands, they were small outpost colonies, not major sept worlds.>their navy absolutely shatteredOnly the local one, they still had enough left over to keep bringing in more reinforcements>all their human collaborators blammedThey got new ones after the war with all the humans the Imperium left behind in their rush to evacuate.This was not some devastating war for the Tau. It damaged a single world of consequence but even at the the time the Tau had dozens of such worlds.
>>65107207weapons board
>>65108938Yeah I'm not saying it was devastating writ large, they survived. The first two planets after damocles were sept worlds just not prime sept worlds like dalyth. And on Dalyth prime they were not winning, they had been pushed back all the way up the cost to the capital, held briefly at the river south of the capital, then astartes secured a crossing and the entire line collapsed and they abandoned the capital and the imperials were mopping up some kroot stragglers when they captured the spaceport (so the tau were now trapped) but then got Kryptmans message to immediately divert for hive fleet... leviathan? Forget which one. Hard to see how any part of that constitutes "largely winning the ground war". Casualties were low on both sides but that's mostly because it was a pretty tiny crusade. Half a chapter of marines 3-4 scout titans and one reaver, like 9 capital ships most of which were light cruisers and between 12-19 regiments only one of which was armored. That's really tiny. They were expecting more but obv all the follow on forces got diverted as well so managed to push tau out of two worlds and were closing the encirclement on their last forces in the sector when ordered to divert. The second attempt to take the Damocles gulf also failed even without a crusade it wasn't until the third attempt they were partially successful. Also given this was from 3e when the Tau could only go light speed and relatively somewhat faster due to time dilation in the membrane I'm skeptical they would have been reinforced in time. Nothing I have read indicates the Daylth tau or the crusaders received any out of system reinforcements the entire time.
>>65108987I might be remembering old lore, they have a bad tendency to constantly retcon Tau lore (for example, the FTL thing, the Tau used to have FTL during the Damocles crusade before they changed that)
>>65108996Sort of. The kroot did but for some reason the tau couldn't use it, that was never really well explained. The tau could get to like .99C then cross the dimensional membrane to achieve an effective overground speed of like 1.5 to 3 ish C but had no way to orient themselves or navigate in the membrane so could only make very short hops so they didn't get lost. So they wasted a ton of time accelerating and decelerating. That was the old 3e lore anyway
>>65109272Now show the part where you bitched out and hid in a cave in the next country over for 20 years.
>>65109272>killing fewer soldiers over the course of 10+ years than ukrainians killed yesterdayTruly impressive
>>65109377When you evaporate all the actual soldiers in the first few months then yeah, that doesn't leave a whole lot of soldiers left to kill over the next 19 and a half years.
>>65109384Are you insinuating that the taliban destroyed the entire US military in the first months, then for no particular reason just decided to spend the next twenty years in the Pakistan cuckshed until the US got fed up of trying to get the other Afghans to run a functional country?
>>65109412I assumed the conversation was shitting on the U.S. military's performance, judging by the picture.
How likely would it be the villain in a Star Trek episode?>100%: Chaos Daemons, Death Guard, World Eaters, Dark Eldar, Orks, Tyranids, Adeptus Mechanicus, Ecclestiarchy>90%: Necrons>75%: Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Black Templars, Thousand Sons>40%: Eldar, Harlequins, Tau, Space Wolves, Blood Angels>30%: Votann>10%: Exodites
tau are a botched design. they should have been>Small core of elite well-trained soldiers supported heavily by drone forceslike op said, but in reality they bounce between a mechanized infantry faction and stupid giant robot shit depending on which edition of the rules you're playing.
>>65109489Yes, if you ignore their mulched professional army in 2022, depleted Soviet stockpiles, ongoing economic damage, and the continuous mulching of Deathniks.
>>65109472Current necrons are effectively thar as only the higher ups retain any of their memories or personality from before the biotransferrence. The lower castes may as well be drones, and the scarab and various canoptek units are drones.
>>65109979They've taken ww1 and ww2 tier casualties (for the Western powers anyway)>gaining hands-on experience and developing new techEven the Russians have admitted the Ukrainians have been well ahead of them in those terms. Ukraine has developed their own long range strike capacity as well.
>>65109489>developed said teritorynow you're just fucking trolling.
>>65109472IIRC battlesuits were developed as a counter to space marines, since the Imperium uses Space Marines in like 90% of their military campaigns, the Tau needed a counter that could outmaneuver them with superior firepower.
Man I loved playing tau when I did because you could outrange their enemies and if you had a squad in a devilfish with a squad of fire warriors behind it you could shoot them but once they got in range they had to pass a large target roll to shoot the troops instead of the ship that they couldn't hurt. Fun times
>>65110511russia built the kerch strait bridge at the very least. even that alone is a big win for crimean residents. people had wanted a bridge like it for decades by the time it was built
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