[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/k/ - Weapons

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: HGvo5N6bAAEm8Iq.jpg (123 KB, 1504x516)
123 KB JPG
Ukrainians launched drone attacks, or rather they tried to attack, or if I'm not mistaken they attacked.
>>
>>65107697
OK.
>>
>>65107697
>Or rather, they tried to launch an attack
>We'll read the Defence Ministry's reports on the downed drones later
They absolutely hit something big lol
>>
File: 1773724125482656.png (60 KB, 513x228)
60 KB PNG
Fighterbomber having a good day already
>>
>>65107720
>Wagner getting clapped in the Mali Maelstrom
comfy
>>
>>65107697
Same old story, he wants to say they hit Russia hard but can't say it without falling out a window.
>>
File: 1774875794175052m.jpg (57 KB, 1024x491)
57 KB JPG
I wonder what it is like for a person like Fighterbomber. He is obviously proud over the RuAF and his country and going into the conflict probably thought they were the best in the world. This war must have shattered his worldview. I wonder how he copes.
>>
>>65107753
One would imagine that the going rate for a two-bedroom apartment on the ground level would be at an all-time high at this point
>>
>>65107697
St. Petersburg?
>>65107720
oh, hey. I know which video he's talking about. It was a Hind E downed in the Gao area
>>
I haven't read any russian schizo scrawlings in a while, fighterbomber is far too wellspoken to entertain
>>
>>65107757
>pic
I thought they get more Good Boy Points for causing suicides?
>>
>>65107757
by making treads on /pol/ celebrating how some niggers killed some other niggers
>>
>>65107769
Now they do, before they didn't. Latest patch updated this and hopefully fixed the broken meta
>>
>>65107697
i mean is he wrong? even in the most moderate way of doing things russia is so vast that it simply isnt possible to cover all the damn thing with aa
>>
>>65107759
People get wildly drunk in their bathrooms and drown in 2" of water all the time!
>>
File: IMG_6229.jpg (5 KB, 300x168)
5 KB JPG
>>65107720
>>65107757
Leave Fighterbomber alone!
>>
In other news, in Yaroslavl, multipolar world's premier SHORAD Pantsaar struck a commie block again, instead of the drone it intended to intercept

The air defense cuckolds then eagerly watched the drones strike Yaroslavl refinery
>>
>>65107743
Al Qeda in Mali is kicking their ass lmao.
>>
>>65107784
he's not worng, but his point is that all the government propaganda about the enemy using foreign airspace to reach targets deep inside russia are bogus, as shown by this recent incursion deep inside russia where no foreign airspace is anywhere near. i think he has to make such statements because loads of russians blindly believe the propaganda despite the reality. and it's not the first time.
a year or so ago when ukrainian drones started targetting targets as far as 1000km deep into russia there were suggestions made outside of mainstream russia media that ukraine could in no way posses such technology and the only explanation was that those drones were launched from inside of russia, i literally saw russian posters online start to repeat that explanation as well. when the ports near saint pidorsburg got targetted, the propaganda took an even more crazy turn and explained that those drones were launched not from ukraine, but from estonia, russians lapped it up and started repeating those explanations.
>>
>>65107875
That propaganda got pretty intense a month back, when some drones from the swarms hitting oil terminals on the coast around St. Petersburg got lost and strayed into Finland.
Even the Kremlin spokesman Peskov joined the talking heads in implying that there might be consequences if they find proofs. Which is how it usually goes with these Russian government statements: Excuses for the domestic audience, vague threats for the evil foreign countries.
>>
>>65107875
I love how the idea that Ukraine outsmarting Russia is so unbelievable that it will make them look at literally ANYTHING else as an option.
>>
>>65107697
Everything is clear to me now.
>>
>>65107891
Wasn't there a Ukrainian drone that was recovered in Latvia as well? Or somewhere around there
>>
>>65107899
This anon measured the eggs!
>>
>>65107766
He's one of the few pro-russians I can kind of tolerate, if only for the fact he calls out completely obvious bullshit from completel lakhtapidors (that is also repeated on this site) like the "baltic drone paths".
>>
>>65107697
He is THIS close to awareness.

Or rather, he is aware, but he can't say it or get v&
>>
>>65107908
Yeah, one crashed in Latvia, and I think another one slightly damaged a power plant's chimney in Estonia. Both very close to the Russian border.
The ones that ended up in Finland seem to have just failed to make their final turns for their targets over the Gulf of Finland. Maybe the EW or the satnat spoofing confused them. They just kept flying in a straight line until they ran out of fuel and crashed in south-eastern Finland.

Nobody was hurt in any of these incidents, and the residents of these countries are mostly pro-TZD for some reason, so it wasn't a big diplomatic issue.
>>
>>65107928
>Nobody was hurt in any of these incidents, and the residents of these countries are mostly pro-TZD for some reason, so it wasn't a big diplomatic issue.
I think I remember Latvia or Finland also blaming Russia for the incidents due to them starting the invasion
>>
>>65107697
Ukrainians almost never score a hit as all of them are consistently shot down. Its just that the debris is then able to continue to fly for hundreds more kilometres and then hit something easily replaceable and cause a tiny fire. Either that or hit something irrelevant like a plane or radar or ship (it's a land war, retards).
>>
>>65107766
Did Copelord say anything good recently? I'm not on Twitter or Telegram.
>>
>>65107899
Ass status?
>>
>>65107766
Nothing will top bumtouching crests
>>
>>65107980
i know the post is in jest but surely, SURELY, even a singular braincell can bend and start scratching itself till it creates a spark of realization that maybe, maybe, there is something wrong in how it's always reported that their AA manages to have 100% interception rate for every drone ever, and the debris (unavoidable) always happens to reach its intended target to deal total annihilation
>>
>>65107983
Eggs-deep in the ass, it seems.
>>
>>65107714
Targets for these strikes were Chelyabinsk Metallurgical Plant and Chelyabinsk Higher Military Aviation School of Navigators, and JSC Vektor State Enterprise in Yekaterinburg. (Part of the Almaz-Antey.)

It unfortunately does seem like there weren't any notable hits. But just the fact that the Ukies are firing at shit behind the Urals is having the ziggers in a tizzy.
>>
File: o9s94kytdmag1.png (1.2 MB, 4592x2775)
1.2 MB PNG
>>65107837
Slightly off-topic, but what I find funny about the whole "multipolar world" thing is that the EU and the wider European Project is perhaps one of the best arguments/evidence for a multipolar world, and the Russians fucking hate it.
>>
>>65108039
Their idea of the multipolar world is that they control what goes on in Europe, the EU is a direct adversary when you view it from their point of view.
>>
>they attacked, if I'm not mistaken
>or rather, they tried to launch an attack
turns out they kidnapped the wrong elephant
>>
>>65108059
I get that. Just read a book on the whole "near abroad" thing they obsess about.
I still think it's academically dishonest and two-faced.
>>
>>65108039
"Multipolar world" is just a rebranding of the old spheres of influence. As the other anon said, russians see europe as their backyard that should bow down to their interests. The EU is an obstacle to that
>>
>>65107761
A Hind E? Anon, what's a Russian gunship doing there?
>>
>>65107697
This will be the catalyst that allows King Charles to convince Trump to start sending money to ukraine again. This comes after mere days of Prince Harry bonking vatniks and commanding global applause to boost Ukraine in the information space.
>>
>>65108063
>it's academically dishonest and two-faced.
It's a Russian POV what else would you expect.
>>
>>65107697
bum
touching
crests
>>
File: 1738905936579394.jpg (338 KB, 600x960)
338 KB JPG
>>65108082
>Trump to start sending money to ukraine again
lel
>>
>>65108088
>vatnik seethe
Cope
>>
>>65107757
The gamification of Russian slaughter is something I can get behind.
>>
>>65108089
>pointing out how absurd expecting Trump to change his position on Russia and Ukraine is vatnik seethe
Enjoy being confused about why Trump isn't changing his position no matter what. Europe is where the support for Ukraine will come from and that isn't changing any time soon.
>>
Yekaterinburg, which is a large city on the other side of the Ural mountains, got drones.
>>
>>65108080
Didn't you hear? You can pick up Russian military equipment from your local hardware store, Quincaillerie Sangarela Mali must have scored one in a recent shipment.
>>
File: y28rax.png (11 KB, 796x70)
11 KB PNG
>>65107757
>>65107776
>>
>>65108088
Yeah, it would take a stroke to convince Trump to change his stance.

He's still SEETHING years later that Zelenskyy wouldn't help him with his corrupt lies.
>>
>>65107757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUqmNIaiFS4
what a timeline
>>
File: media_HG1RtdIa8AAx5qm.jpg (118 KB, 1280x927)
118 KB JPG
>>65107980
>Its just that the debris is then able to continue to fly for hundreds more kilometres and then hit something easily replaceable and cause a tiny fire. Either that or hit something irrelevant like a plane or radar or ship (it's a land war, retards).
Yeah, and the drone debris even continues to provide video feed as it flies into irrelevant objects. Must have been blessed by whatever techno-Satan its creators worship.
>>
>>65108039
>russia goes "i want a multipolar world"
>eu goes on to become a pole in that world
>>
>>65107697
>>65107720
These people are more delusional and retarded than i am.
>>
File: 1772726370118520.png (224 KB, 372x340)
224 KB PNG
>>65108415
>Push for multilateralism
>Get pissed when the EU and NATO get involved in the Balkans
>>
>>65108440
for vatniks "multipolar world" just means they can fuck with anyone they want ignoring that it works both ways
>>
>>65108439
Not a very high bar though, innit?
>>
>>65108466
Is that a compliment to Norktard?
>>
>>65108039
the fun thing being that the EU and (most) of it's member states aren't at all interested in being a pole.
>>65108063
>>65108075
if I was russia I wouldn't be pushing a "we must control those near to us" narrative when those next to you have 10 times the economy and 3 times the population
and 10 times the population and economy
if they'd just left them the fuck around they'd be busy "fixing" bottle caps
>>
>>65108469
Could work either way depending on who's reading.
>>
>>65108477
>when those next to you have 10 times the economy and 3 times the population
>and 10 times the population and economy
>if they'd just left them the fuck around they'd be busy "fixing" bottle caps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_slicing_tactics

They think they would get to draw the rules and people wouldn't hang up on them.
>>
>>65108502
the problem with salami tactics against the EU is that when it was made it was made knowing that it would have to deal with internal division
so they have been trying to clamp down on that on their own form day one in turn edging out how you can salami slice them from the inside
plus there's the big corrective mechanism that as countries integrate their economies become dependent on each other. letting the russians slice an other off will cost them all directly plus any danger of the EU collapsing means there's a big indirect cost.
honestly the russians for all the intellectual capacity they have didn't do a very good job understanding how the EU works and how to topple it, don't push against the eurocrats but pull them down a pit they dig themselves
>>
>>65108039
You see, the important part about 'Russia says' is that they lie.
>>
>>65108521
The Russians generally appear to play half court tennis, i.e. tehy look at things from their perspective only.
The Trump administration does the same thing.

The EU, almost by defintion, can't and won't do this. It was designed to arrive at a consesus and make everyone win.
>>
>>65108565
>The Russians generally appear to play half court tennis, i.e. tehy[sic] look at things from their perspective only.
Stealing this one.
>>
>>65108521
They're not so much intellectual but rely on the firehose of bullshit, deny everything and then just make up hokey shit to convince those with brainrot that they're genuinely got an argument however tenuous and unbelievable as it may seem for anyone with an IQ over 85. They don't necessarily want smart people, if 50% of the population is too dumb to figure out the bullshit, then that's 50% useful idiots to keep squawking it and usually becomes too fucking annoying to disprove all the time because quite frankly, ain't no one got time for that shit.
Europe still has some tiny enclaves of mildly neutral to slightly pro-Russian elements to it, kind of like most places but they're usually not of much concern. However, any time Russia needs to drag in an outsider for verification, they'll drag in the token western voice thinking it adds credibility, despite most of them being compromised in some way or just some kind of english speaking scrub no one can be bothered fact or background checking either.

Social media and getting bots forming echo chambers to suck people into it with 'convincing' bullshit also works, sort of like the vast hordes of pro-USA thirdies that bang on the MAGA cage to rile them up with some kind of weirdo ideas. They have the same army of shills for pennies an hour for some soft-power leverage on soft, very smooth minds.

The good thing though, hard power doesn't give a fuck and it ain't paying no bills
Drones are going to be gibbing ziggers round the clock, oil terminals are going to burn, Russian hardware gets blown up, the EU is giving 90bil to Ukraine and there's another 60bil from allied countries as well coming in as well.
>>
File: getting ready.webm (3.9 MB, 1920x1080)
3.9 MB WEBM
>>65107982
I went and checked and not really.
>Retweeting the same Russian propagandist Yuri Podolyaka that Ukrainians are all starving to death on the front due to 'total lockdown on supply runs' by Russian forces
>Talking about the 'food being served' to aircraft carriers is a logistical failure by the Trump admin
>Hohols lying about their attacks as usual and glorious Russia advancing on all fronts
>Retweeting Russian vids
>Retweeting AIslop and le anime waifu Russian soldier art
>Retweeting more glorious advances for Russia
>Retweeting even more Podolyaka about how hohols are at breaking point and are finished
>Talking about how hohols are war criminals because they drone 'unarmed' people and how Russians never do that
So, nothing new.
>>
>>65108565
I agree with the half court tennis assessment, they have also been very and I must stress very 0 sum game in any professional dealings I've had with them. that was as an academic so there isn't even much value to divide.
>>65108623
you shouldn't underestimate the pool of intellectual and other talent in russia.
they've got a 140milion souls and the education system they inherited from the soviets can do wonders if it's being run even just half right.
the problem is that there's some very big blocks on those people being able to have an impact on policy

frankly their self imposed inability to use their own talent to it's fullest extent is one of their biggest gifts to the rest of the world. the best thing we can do is not assume that they are all retards because they'll gleefully rob you of that illusion while robbing you of some other things.
>>
>>65108565
>The Russians generally appear to play half court tennis, i.e. tehy look at things from their perspective only.
it's partially reverse cargo-cult on their part, they unironically think that everyone else are the same subhumans as they are, but others just hide it better
>>
>>65108642
What does Frieren have to do with anything?
>>
File: 418AjNTOTRL.jpg (29 KB, 311x500)
29 KB JPG
>>65108795
>very 0 sum game in any professional dealings I've had with them
>>
>>65108868
Hey, I've read that book. Posted about it on /k/ before too.
>>
>>65107994
At some point you just realize that air defenses are a meme and it's better to just let a single drone hit than to blow it up and turn it into multiple pieces of independently targeted shrapnel.
>>
>>65108868
haven't read that book, mine was on co-operation and integration of civil defense.
any suggestion to do better flood prevention boiled down to: we are upstream, get bent
>>
>>65108795
>education system they inherited from the soviets can do wonders
Delusional bullshit.
t. graduated that system with honors
>>
>>65107766
Ziggerposting has never been the same since the Dipping of Pringles and the Pickling of Girkin.
>>
>>65107893
Member the sinking of the Moskva? One of the narratives in the Ziggersphere at the time was that it was actually sunk by a torpedo from a Bong sub.

In other words, the Russians would rather believe that the Perfidious Albion sunk a Russian warship and got away with it rather than admit that the Ukrainians outsmarted them.
>>
>>65108866
Oh he was posting AIslop of her.
>>
>>65108866
elfussy has everything to do with everything
>>
File: 1757329935414.jpg (203 KB, 1080x539)
203 KB JPG
>>65108937
Yeah, as horrific as this war has consistently been, the early years had a certain novel-like quality to them, with entertaining villains. Nowadays it's just day after day of ziggers getting mulched by their nameless commanders while comically slow drones bomb Russia to shit.
>>
>>65107771
le both sides, amirite comrade)))
>>
>>65108952
The sub's commander?
Boris Johnson.
>>
>>65107757
>Russian are killing themselves to own hohols
>>
>>65108937
Turns out Russians are much better shills than Indians.
>>
>>65108952
>The reality of the situation exposed by the Ziggersphere at the time was that it was actually sunk by Boris Johnson
You do the absolute legend a disservice by spouting anything other than the truth, anon
>>
>>65108795
>the problem is that there's some very big blocks on those people being able to have an impact on policy
>frankly their self imposed inability to use their own talent to it's fullest extent is one of their biggest gifts to the rest of the world.
I still remember thinking 25 years ago, when i was in school, that russia was destined to be the next great economic powerhouse because they have everything one might need to that jump
Little did I know that not only they barely improve, the new tzar throws it all away for some imperial delusions
No wonder the prime russian literary export is SufferingTM, and they suffer from insane brain drain
>>
Russian telegram users have to be indirect sometimes to avoid censors.
>>
>>65109160
If Telegram is banned anyway wouldn't anyone already circumventing the ban to use it start to be more direct with what they say?
>>
>>65107720
>Fighterbomber having a good day already
Ukies droned a Mig-31 in Crimea too.
Along with some naval vessels but fighterzigger doesn't care about those.
>>
>>65108019
Man I remember when the metorite attacked chelyabinsk and caused total window death and wall death at the zinc foundry..
>>
>>65108911
Greentext
>>
>>65108582
Credit for that goes to Sarah Paine.
Her lectures on yt are absolutely top tier, insightful, witty, informative.
>>
>>65109325
>even the solar system tries to nuke Russia from orbit
The signs are obvious in retrospect. Why didn't we listen?
>>
>>65109474
Don't forget Tunguska
>>
>>65109197
Sevastapol got fucked hard last night it sounds like. 2 landing ships, an intel/recon ship, mig-31, various AD assets, repair facilities and a training center were hit
>>
>>65109482
The ships are the ones that were already damaged?
>>
>>65109464
She the one that an Indian has cut into five minute clips for maximum engagement?
>>
>>65109499
Yes, but there are several hour+ long ones, too.
The 3 minute snippet shit is because yt pushes 'short form content'.
>>
File: 1772754463934503.jpg (59 KB, 640x480)
59 KB JPG
>>65109499
That slop exists, yes, her, but she has hour+ long lectures up. JewTube recommends the Indian cut one though and the actual lectures take some digging to find. Highly worth it though. She's spot on the money about the Russian mindset and has been trying to spread the word even before the invasion l.
>>
>>65109523
>Picrel
Thanks, Anon.
I'll reciprocate.
https://youtu.be/yKoUC0m1U9E?si=hzV0z-ZKtyCpBSAM
This is an Israeli explaining the Israeli perspective and mindset to a group of American jews. I found it very informative.
>>
>>65107720
>The crew and the mobile fire team on board were killed.
I'm excited to hear how the situation gradually worsens.
>>
>>65108477
>implying the bottle caps thing wasn't sabotage by Russian agents
>>
>>65109494
The landing ships were specifically called out as the Yamal and Filchenkov while the intel ship was named as the Ivan Khurs. Both landing ships had been previously hit on the 19th and the Ivan Khurs has been hit at least 3-4 times now. Once in 2023 due to USVs, once in 2024 due to missiles/drones which left permanent structural damage, and now from last night. I doubt either of these 3 ships are in any shape to be recovered at this point
>>
>>65109523
>the actual lectures take some digging to find
Mind posting the link to the originals if you've got one on hand?
>>
File: 1772549245701722.jpg (34 KB, 505x364)
34 KB JPG
>>65109626
Unfortunately I don't. It's been like a year since I listened to them. Her name is Sarah Paine.

There's also Stanford lectures by Timothy Snyder on Ukraine I recommend. His stuff is easier to find but he is a general historian of Ukraine while Paine is a naval war historian focused on SU/Russia.
>>
File: 1732956520900850.jpg (159 KB, 1080x1041)
159 KB JPG
>>65109692
>Paine is a naval war historian focused on SU/Russia.
She must have a golden sense of humor.
>>
File: IMG_7437.jpg (86 KB, 1200x776)
86 KB JPG
>>65108978
>>
>>65109713
It's pretty dry.
>>
>>65109621
The ships are effectively total losses, even if they remain technically afloat in Sevastopol. It's also clear by now that the black Sea Fleet has been functionally defeated on the surface.
They only have their subs left. Four or five Improved Kilos, plus one normal Kilo IIRC.

I realy wonder if they will try moving ships along the canals and rivers, from the Baltic or Northern fleets.
>>
>>65109793
>I realy wonder if they will try moving ships along the canals and rivers, from the Baltic or Northern fleets.
too risky, considering Ukraine has already attempted to hit a ship bound for the Baltic Fleet while it was undergoing seatrials in some lake within Russia
>>
>>65109464
>Sarah Paine
Shitty non-borderer. Watch Martti J Kari and russian strategic culture.
>>
>>65109902
Esl?
>>
>>65109902
>Martti J Kari and russian strategic culture
I presume they're referring to this lecture, for anyone curious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF9KretXqJw
>>
>>65108642
>Ukrainians are all starving to death on the front
I always find these funny because it always has the obvious implication that in the fifth year of the war, when the Ukrainians are sending old men, children and cripples, all of whom are starving to death, Russia still has not taken the Donbass or any regional capital.
>>
>>65110011
Remember, the RuAF is simultaneously up against starving conscripted crippled orphan grandmothers and the entirety of the armed forces of NATO all at once. To imply otherwise is to discredit the Russian Armed Forces; if you're not careful, you may catch an in absentia criminal conviction like they did to that one East German a few weeks back.
>>
File: hq720.jpg (42 KB, 686x386)
42 KB JPG
>>65110011
As usual there is a grain of truth to both (1) drones making it really hard to resupply units at the front and (2) Ukraine having manpower issues.

However, we can discuss neither because either (a) vatniks will lie as to the nature and severity of these issues and (b) unironic NAFO poasters will spazz out and accuse everyone (including themselves) of being paid operatives of the Russian state

Nothing frustrates me more than this war. Biggest happening in Europe since the collapse of Yugoslavia and we cant talk about it because of two competing cliques of faggots.
>>
>>65110032
>if you're not careful, you may catch an in absentia criminal conviction like they did to that one East German a few weeks back.
Weird thing to bring up when the brits just revoked the citizenship of some guy for nothing more than a bit o' banta.
>>
>>65108937
I miss the old intel Slava Z posts.

>>65108986
Russia could easily have been like Norway. but unlike them or the other oil states, Russia inherited a sizable industrial base, a vast amount of non-oil resources, a large population including plenty of cheap labour, an effectively infinite amount of space to develop, a massive agricultural belt and access to both the Atlantic and Pacific. Thats just what I can think of the top of my head.

But instead they are a kleptocratic, corrupt, aggressive shit hole with only two cities worth anything. The people live in shit and thank Putin for it.

Ironically, had they just acted like a normal country with all that money, Ukraine might have had a stronger pro-russian sentiment.
>>
>>65110035
Oh I entirely agree. Any kind of nuanced discussion with this war had been near dead for a long time now. Ukraine still has huge manpower issues and they are suffering drones almost as badly (them being on the defensive saves them from the worst of it. It's easy to shit talk the russians, but there are plenty of criticisms for the Ukrainians too. But as you say, it's impossible to discuss them.

It's a symptom of the modern internet really. It's far to easy to have gone through the entire war, barely seeing any videos of you're preferred side being killed (except for big events). So it's easy to think you're winning with minimal losses.
>>
>>65110047
The Russians ran to a fascist over real economic problems.
Meanwhile the US ran to a fascist over problems invented by Fox News.
>>
>>65109596
>the bottle caps thing
qrd?
My building is collecting bottle caps for something to do with Ukraine, is this related?
>>
>>65110035
>Thinly Veiled Nooancer
Ohh, that one's new.
>>
>>65110081
>Meanwhile the US ran to a fascist over problems invented by Fox News.
Strategy of Tension works domestically as well as internationally.
>>
>>65109626
>Mind posting the link to the originals if you've got one on hand?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd7-bHaQwnthnOed1a85mF7L-Ki3kdiqp
Enjoy many hours of a person who actually has insight into the russian culture having lived in the country and interacted with actual ruslims
>>
>>65109171
Good point
Perhaps trying to avoid being the tallest grass?
>>
>>65110035
I mean I can sort of agree, because I want Westerners to take this war as seriously as we should. And retards just circle jerking over how well it's going for Ukraine isn't going to achieve that.

But you're also a complete sperg with too much edge for acting like this war only exists on the internet and isn't affecting real people. Of course people will get emotional and obnoxious over it.
>>
>>65107994
Cluster drones. War crime
>>
>>65110095
the EU passed a regulation mandating that all plastic bottle caps had to be connected to the plastic bottles they are on to reduce the amount of plastic waist that gets into the environment. just like how they banned plastic straws and you can no longer get free plastic bags at the grocery store.

those are on their own silly little laws passed to please the greens.
but it's silly thing to be debating when there's much more important shit going on.
people also didn't like it because the caps could get in the way when drinking from the bottle.

in a way laws like that do show that in the end the EU does have a functioning democracy where the voting bases of the coalition parties will be thrown their bone. and it is in general looking to improve the life of it's citizens if only in very small and gay ways like telling Apple to shut up and just use a normal charging cable.
the weird part is how proud parts of the EU institutions get when they for instance get rid of roaming charges in the EU a good decade after smartphones became normal.
>>65109596
the greens do have historical ties with the KGB
>>65108911
I've met some very capable and well educated products of that system so that might have skewed my perception of it. could you compare it with a western system you've had contact with? just for curiosities sake
>>
>>65110544
>I've met some very capable and well educated products of that system so that might have skewed my perception of it.
The reason that you've met them is already a giant filter. You've basically met the best of the best of the best. Of course they'd be good, but the thing is that they are good not because of the system, but despite it.

>could you compare it with a western system you've had contact with? just for curiosities sake
It's obviously not all uniform across the world and specific subjects and such.

Just a funny example, but the way they teach English in Japanese schools is very soviet in nature: millions of people go through 10 years of studying English and yet almost nobody can actually write or speak English kek; why? because the retarded focus is on grammar, rules, tenses and other such crap, which can easily be taken up later, instead of actually teaching people what's important, such as having a vocabulary, being able to construct sentences, writing, speaking, audio comprehension and so on.

Going back to the soviet system, the focus of the system was on a few specific pillars: pro-regime brainwashing, dehumanizing an individual into being an obedient cog of the machine, who doesn't question anything told by the superiors, and big layer of "potyomkin village" type shit (I assume most would understand, but if not just google it) of cooked statistic and such, to make things look good from outside.

1/x
>>
>>65110544
>those are on their own silly little laws passed to please the greens.
They materially help the environment by reducing the strain plastic puts on it and reduces dependency on raghead oil, even if only a little bit. It also helps with keeping places clean. What's silly and gay is to be against them in the first place out of some gay principle because they produce no downside.
>>
>>65110571
99% of people throw away bottles with caps screwed back in and in the same place, i bet EU wasted a ton of money on retarded mandates like this they could actually use to clean shit up.
>>
>>65110575
>99% of people throw away bottles with caps screwed back in and in the same place
And you know this percentage to be true, because why exactly? Because you feel like it? Okay then, how are you materially disadvantaged by the cap staying attached to the bottle? Are you against it just because it's a new thing? Do you have any serious objection to it?
>EU wasted a ton of money on retarded mandates like this they could actually use to clean shit up.
You can do this AND clean shit up you retarded faggot.
>>
cont. >>65110570

So, basically a gulag for children, which also had to generate fake excellence for PR reasons, both internal and external. How? One of the most typical examples would be by cramming in the educational programs full of shit, to the point that 9 out of 10 students wouldn't be able to process it, yet it would look great on paper when reports would be done.

Imagine having 6-7 classes per day (often including Saturday, yes) and then going home and facing homework, where each class has so much homework that you'd think the people compiling the study program assume that it's the only class that exists. To the point that actually diligently doing all of the homework for a typical kid would take 5+ hours of work, if at all possible. And what's worse is that, unlike what often happens in normal countries, often homework actually requires kids to go through new material themselves instead of repeating stuff which they covered in school. Here's your biology homework of reading eight sections of the textbook about propagation of ferns, there's 50% chance you'll get quizzed tomorrow on it lmao. Then you'll have Foreign Literature subject of needing to read Le Rouge et le Noir, which is written in a fucked up way (or the translation sucked?). And so on and so forth. God forbid they specify that you have learn by heart some retarded poetry.

Thus, since early years kids have to learn how to bullshit their way through the system, because most wouldn't be able to handle that crap even if they've tried. Some split work in between themselves: Ivan does Algebra, Dima does Geometry, Kolya does Physics and so on, and they go to school earlier so that they can copy each other's homework before the classes start. With things like Literature you either gamble that "they won't be able to check everyone" and either ignore it or read abridged variants or even just summarized stuff.

2/x
>>
>>65110544
>the greens do have historical ties with the KGB
The German Greens exist because Hitler (a alien in Germany) massively enhanced environmental protection laws in ways utterly alien to actual German habits. Without him, their movement would have had no legal legs to stand on.
>>
>>65110579
because Europe already has the lowest per capita plastic waist getting dumped
>>
>>65110544
>the EU passed a regulation mandating that all plastic bottle caps had to be connected to the plastic bottles
Huh

I've lived on-and-off in the EU for the last couple of years and never noticed this.
I know I've bought bottled drinks since this came in, I think I just gave the cap a 180 twist so that it angled away from the mouth of the bottle and was out of the way.
>>
cont. >>65110585

You need to retell a story for English class that you've supposedly read as homework? Well, your friend (who actually knows pronunciation) will write you up all the transcription using Cyrillic letters and you'll just learn the sounds by heart, sounding as if you're retelling shit in English, yet just making learned sounds and not even knowing what you're "speaking". Hey, there's a 75% chance that there won't be subsequent questions, so that's good enough to avoid getting an F on the homework. And it's everything like that.

So, on paper you have ubermensch students going through a fuck ton of material all across dozens of subjects in record speed, while in reality you have people not being able to differentiate power and voltage, find north and south on the map or even write their thoughts coherently (despite doing a fuck ton of writing in school, including dictation and such). Seriously, you're sheltered by the language barrier from such fucked up shit written on RU social media, specifically by 40-60 y.o. retards lmao.

This PR focus on "we'll bring up a comprehensively developed person of the future" would then result in say a law student or an engineering student having 3/4 of classes not being tied to his actual field of study. Here's you psychology, sociology, philosophy, religion study, accounting, economic theory, micro economy, macro economy, international economy, three types of history shit and so on and so forth. To the point that actual classes that are in fact important to your field of study are skimmed over instead of focusing on them lmao. In USSR it was double teamed by having ideological subjects bolted on top of that, such as scientific communism (yes), history of the communist party (yes) and other such crap.

But that's not even the worst of it.

3/x
>>
cont. >>65110603

What's worst is that the actual study programs for important subjects of your field would be wildly bad, detached from reality, obsolete and so on. And the people doing the teaching are 95% retarded. Why? Because as the local saying goes "those who can - do, those who can't - teach" and it's not some anti-teaching thing, it's reality in such a system. Basically most teaching positions in Uni are filled by rejects of the system: those who are good enough got used by the workforce, those who didn't stayed to "continue their education", which would morph into them teaching in the same Uni for decades to come.

I.e. 9 times out of 10 the people trying to teach you shit have no practical idea about what they're talking about, since they didn't spend a day actually working in the field that they teach. Needless to say that they teach badly, incorrectly and generally are subhuman faggots. To the point the first thing a person is told after getting into a job after Uni would be "forget everything they told you in Uni". Yes, that was a thing since the days of USSR. And that's one of the big reasons the post-soviet labor market is deeply inherently fucked, since you can't hire graduates and assume they'd be able to work even in the most basic bitch starting positions. Because they've spent the last 4-6 years being taught bullshit.

The most fun and grim example of this is in the field of law students: if you want a career in law, then after Uni you have to pay a company to "hire you" and work there for free because for them you're a useless bug who just gets in the way, you're the one who pays them every months instead of them paying you, you basically pay them a compensation for wasting their time, as you slowly study at the work place of how things actually work in the field so that later you can actually get a normal job where you'd get paid. This isn't some joke.

4/x
>>
cont. >>65110614

Alternatively you could try to get some retarded junior position in the public sector, such as a junior lawyer helped in the local branch office of the state pension fund, where you'd get paid peanuts and where they'd wipe their feet on you (because any public sector job like that is still deeply soviet in nature), sitting every day in a stuffy bad office and trying to scam elders out of their pension. So that in 2-4 years you can run away from there and join the private sector as someone who actually has real world work experience.

Sorry for the long stream of conscious butthurt, but these examples are what specifically highlights the system. A typical person after soviet education system is useless in terms of doing actual valid work. You have software dev graduates who didn't write any relevant code, because they've spent time doing bullshit in other subjects, and any IT skills are limited to writing the bubble sort algorithm or unfolding a linked list on paper, so you can't just hire them and have them sit down and start coding for you. What you see as "good developers" are 95% of the time enthusiastic nerds who were interested in the field since school and voluntarily taught themselves shit outside of the study process. Not even a joke, 2/3 of the good devs on the local market are self-taught guys most of whom don't even have a computer science degree kek.

This is in high contrast to many examples from abroad where people in fact were taught good and relevant shit in college and whom were in fact good enough to join the workforce and start working. And often the people doing the teaching are people with actual work experience. It's obviously not everywhere and not with everything, but it's more like that there than the soviet system.
>>
>>65110579
>And you know this percentage to be true, because why exactly? Because you feel like it?
Because literally everyone whom I see throwing away bottles does the thing where they unscrew the cap, squish the bottle (so that it takes up less space) and the screw the cap back on (so that the bottle doesn't regain its shape back).
>>
>>65108039
Multipolar world is like panslavism and communism. It's cover for russian imperialism
>>
>>65108866
Ironic since she is represents TZD
>>
>>65110623
>squish the bottle (so that it takes up less space)
MY PFAND REEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>65110620
Thank you anon, that was a fascinating read in to how many of the flaws of Russian society are baked in from day 1 of school.
Not the guy you were replying to, but I appreciate the essay.
>>
>>65110671
>many of the flaws of Russian society are baked in from day 1 of school
Some of it is by design, some of it is just people replicating what they know, kinda like in that monkey group experiment. But in general almost every societal institution within the soviet union was a micro-gulag: school? a micro-gulag for children; army? a micro-gulag for late teens and early 20s guys; and so on. Even a basic bitch local government office is a micro-gulag where the focus is on you knowing your place and having to go through humiliation rituals.

And the worst thing is that people live through that, it propagates through them, so they think that it's normal and everywhere things are like that. I.e. it's a not just culture issue, but actually culture/system issue or as a like to call it culture + system issue, hence when kids from russia leave the country when the parents emigrate they are usually brought up into normal people, because they lost exposure to both culture and system which are responsible for this sort of fucked up programming. Hence why countries that broke off from USSR in Europe all got better afterwards: even Belarus, despite living in an rotted out husk of a soviet system, living under a dictator for 30 years, got better because while the system is kinda there the culture is not, no matter how russified they've become they still are different.
>>
>>65107994
>Statement from Jap atomic bomb survivor who was in school when it happened, (paraphrased)
>The news always reported how Japan was winning crushing victories nonstop, but the victories kept getting closer and closer to Japan
>>
>>65110620
>>65110689
Thanks, m8.
It matches what I've heard from eastern Euro people, especially older ones who were in school before 1989.
>>
>>65110043
He's lucky. Lord Haw Haw was hanged. We should fucking do it again.
>>
File: 996.png (572 KB, 640x574)
572 KB PNG
>>65110035
>le both sides
>seething about NAFO
>>
File: 1708149210397020.jpg (21 KB, 500x334)
21 KB JPG
So both sides are throwing nonstop drones at each other hoping the front line just randomly collapses one day in their favor? Is that the plan?
>>
>>65110773
>So both sides are throwing nonstop drones at each other hoping the front line just randomly collapses one day in their favor?
At least for the Ukrainians, they know that deep deep strikes aren't going to cause the front lines to collapse. They're doing these strikes to take out Russia's industrial and economic base while also hoping to make life so miserable for the everyday Russian that they would put enough pressure on Putin to come to the diplomatic table for a ceasefire
>>
>>65110750
>before 1989
After 1991 all of the commie-specific classes (scientific atheism anyone? lmao) got dropped and replaced with more generic crap, that's about it. AFAIK by late 2010s in Ukraine they've started actually slowly reforming something just a tiny bit, to the butthurt of some old farts about "they've dumbing down our kids", since nobody of those old farts actually remember how fucked their school was and the only thing they remember are "good times" about how they smoked cigs and drank beer behind the school.
>>
>>65110571
>>65110579
>t. paid bottle cap mandate shill
>>
>>65110575
>99% of people throw away bottles with caps screwed back in and in the same place
In my experience (boomer vacationers at my family's business) it's more like 50-60%
>>
>>65110802
Why and how? What do people do with them?
>>
>>65110803
>Why and how?
Experience tells me that people on vacation tend to just not bother thinking properly (either that, or they really are this stupid all year round and I'm just pretending otherwise to preserve what little faith I have left in humanity)
>What do people do with them?
mostly just dump them in the same bin without putting them back on
>>
>>65110776
>hoping to make life so miserable for the everyday Russian that they would put enough pressure on Putin to come to the diplomatic table for a ceasefire
Surely they can't be that naive
>>
>>65110808
>or they really are this stupid all year round and I'm just pretending otherwise to preserve what little faith I have left in humanity
This is my default coping mode ever since the coof.
>>
>>65110808
>mostly just dump them in the same bin
So it doesnt matter in the end
>>
>>65110780
Reforming school systems always takes a long time.
I went to school in Germany and Austria in the 90s, and we had lots of people who came over from Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary. Poland, too.

I got a somewhat representative cross-section of the slow generational shift in schooling, and a load of people with first-hand accounts of the 'eastern' system.
Many of them were damn good at memorizing shit, and math. And by that point the Czechs, Slovaks and Hungarians apparently got rock-solid German language classes going.
>>
>>65110043
And the US is about to do the same to hundreds of US citizens, so? Also the only guy I can think the Brits revoked citizenship of was the ex-police officer who defected to Russia and then wanted to come back.
>>
>>65110893
>the Brits revoked citizenship of was the ex-police officer who defected to Russia and then wanted to come back
Damn.

>traitor asks to come back and face the music
>gets told that they're not important enough to be traded
>they've been sentenced to life in Russia
Can't say the Brits don't have a sense of humour.
>>
File: dscn0376-1-2.jpg (53 KB, 800x600)
53 KB JPG
>>65110871
>And by that point the Czechs, Slovaks and Hungarians apparently got rock-solid German language classes going.
That's because German was the only true option for a second foreign language.
Everyone had to learn Russian first, of course, but while people studying German could always stay in the GDR, those studying French, Italian or English had to move mountains to be able to converse with any natives.
>>
>>65110899
>German was the only true option for a second foreign language
Hungarian, Romanian, Vietnamese, Chinese were all options too and that's not counting the various flavours of Slavic.

English was also an option because international business still existed and there was a thriving industry in translating English works into whatever, both officially and unofficially.
>>
>>65110899
I think there was some measure of 'we were all previously Habsburg' and in the late 80s 'Austria totally isn't the evil West so we can learn German and visit Austria'
>>
>>65110896
He said he wasn't a security risk or anything so let me back. The only other time I can remember them revoking citizenship was that 15 year old girl who went to fuck people in ISIS and then tried to come back years later. Still a legal battle over that iirc.
>>
File: austria.png (59 KB, 200x212)
59 KB PNG
>>65110921
Austrias status regarding east west relations were always a bit interesting, and geopolitical interests after WW2 by the winners made this situation more complicated.
The winners wanted to separate Germany and Austria with specific intent, so they were interested in discerning the two countries as much as possible, despite Austria being as big a naughty boy as Germany. The result was: Austria got declared a neutral first victim of Nazi Germany, and was occupied for only 10 years. (Unlike Germanies 50+).
Add Communism and Socialism to the mix (Austria adopted Hammer and Sickle into its Eagle before or right when the Soviet Union started doing it even, but not as a symbol of communism, but as symbols of workers and peasants) and the situation is even more complicated.
>>
File: favorite Austrian painter.png (144 KB, 1080x1221)
144 KB PNG
>>65111018
Austria and Socialism is a weird topic. Most Austrians would rather die than admit it, but many of the more leftist policies probably helped Austria in the 70s and 80s, and laid teh groundwork that allowed Austria to really get rich in the post-'95 EU era, especiall once the former eastern Euros started joining..

The other bit, regarding Germany and occupation, is also rather differntiated. In West germany, by the 60s (70s at the latest) the US and British forces were there as allies and perceived as friends, not occupiers, regardless of official status and legalities regarding german sovereignty. In teh East, taht was very differetn of course.

If you want a funny factoid regarding sovereignty, occupation status etc., look at the 4+2 talks that led to German reunification.
Both Germanies were technically not fully sovereign, but signed. As a result of the signatures, the East technically disappeared and joined the Federal Republic
The Soviet Union was dissolving as the talks went on, but signed becasue the (West) Germans agreed to essentially givea shitload of Marks to the Soviets.
The British fucking hated it, but Bush Sr. tricked them into signing with empty platitudes and because tehy thought the French would block it..
The French signed because Kohl agreed to a unified European currency, which the French thought they could dominate and whch would alllow them to finally beat out the UK in EC clout. The EC then became teh EU and Germany economically dominated that.
The US signed because Bush Sr. really wanted his legacy to be teh end of the Cold War, and that required German reunification. . .because fuck Korea and that Asia China bullshit, that doesn't count lol.

It's a glorious clusterfuck of excellent statemanship, and a perfect example of diplomacy that achieves the results nobody really wantred, but that made everyone not fight and be richer and happier.

To everyone else, sory for the OT bullshit.
>>
>>65111068
>Russians still seethe over the 4+2 Treaty because of muh NATO "expansion" promises
You love to see it.
>>
>>65110808
>people on vacation tend to just not bother thinking properly
Having worked at an airport, you really have to believe in the vacation mode brain if you don't want to lose faith in your fellow man.
>>
>>65110927
>He said he wasn't a security risk or anything so let me back
I'm sure he isn't but he made a choice.
I'm assuming the "bantz" went a bit beyond some cheeky bookfacetweets.

>>65111068
>a perfect example of diplomacy that achieves the results nobody really wantred, but that made everyone not fight and be richer and happier
Don't you hate it when that happens?
>>
>>65110817
The social contract Putin has is that he can do whatever he wants, so long as the people can still go to the beach for a holiday and can go about their normal lives and never try to talk about politics. He is credited (legitimately or not) with pulling Russia out of the near apocalyptic post soviet collapse, so he has alot to work with. However his approval ratings have been dropping recently and he facing a dilemma with mobilisation.

Ultimately though it's not so much that the Ukrainians are naive, but that it's really the only option they have available.
>>
>>65111131
>The social contract Putin has is that he can do whatever he wants, so long as the people can still go to the beach for a holiday and can go about their normal lives and never try to talk about politics. He is credited (legitimately or not) with pulling Russia out of the near apocalyptic post soviet collapse, so he has alot to work with. However his approval ratings have been dropping recently and he facing a dilemma with mobilisation.
My understanding is that this "social contract" is mostly restricted to Moscow and St. Petersburg.
>>
>>65111068
>Most Austrians would rather die than admit
Why? I think your view of Austria is very warped and seemingly US/Israel based.
>>
>>65111152
(cont)
...in this regard. The project of "Gemeindebau" (these are housing projects that for some reason keep working) is, regarding quality of life in Austria and specially Vienna, unique almost worldwide.
The only seething articles about it come from construction oligarchs. Every time.
>>
>>65108460
>for vatniks "multipolar world" just means they can fuck with anyone they want ignoring that it works both ways
THIS
>>
File: Wien_Hauptbahnhof.jpg (563 KB, 1920x1280)
563 KB JPG
I think Vienna looks like a neat city. Once Hungary gets the Euro, I might make a trip to the region.
>>
>>65110817
>Surely they can't be that naive
>>65111131
>it's not so much that the Ukrainians are naive
>>65111141
>this "social contract" is mostly restricted to Moscow and St. Petersburg
All kind of true but regardless, civilian morale will affect mobilisation and contract recruitment.
The more people complain about SVO veterans with missing limbs gang raping nurses in the rehab hospital and all the other bullshit, the more that everyone knows a few dead mobiks and everyone knows that you're going to have your signing bonus extorted by officers anyway...
The less people will sign contracts and the more chances they'll resist mobilisation, out of purely selfish survival instincts if nothing else.

This fucks with replenishment for the army which helps ensure that the army gets smaller, not bigger, over time.
>>
>>65110575
>wasted a ton of money
If at all this SAVED money by making waste management a little bit easier.

>>65110600
>We're the best in the world, that means we have no reason to keep improving!
Loser mentality.
>>
>>65111159
>council housing
>unique almost worldwide
nigga wat
>>
>>65111273
the magnitude of its sucess is unique worldwide, and was a big contributor to vienna being among the cities with highest QoL worldwide.
>>
File: 1774844435453957.webm (2.69 MB, 1280x720)
2.69 MB WEBM
>>65110603
>fucked up shit written on RU social media, specifically by 40-60 y.o. retards lmao.
Can you elaborate? All this stuff is so fascinating
>>
>>65111273
>>council housing
>>unique almost worldwide
It's *good* council housing.
As in, you'd choose to live there instead of renting privately.
That's almost unique worldwide.
>>
>>65111297
NTA; but Singapore... wait, shit, that's the only other one I can think of.
>>
>>65111313
If Singapore is the exception to the rule about shit government then yeah, you get the point.
>>
>>65111319
it rather is, yes

>>65111282
>>65111297
yeah I admit I was trying to be a smartarse and was gonna pull the Singapore card until anon did it for me
>>
>>65108039
No group of people has ever cared about how well the system in which they're in charge works if altering it means they'll no longer be in charge. The same goes vice versa.
>>
>>65111068
>Most Austrians would rather die than admit it, but many of the more leftist policies probably helped Austria in the 70s and 80s
Still curious as to what makes one think that this is an Austrian consesus. The party responsible for the policy (the socialists) have been in the government or 2nd basically since then...
>>
>>65110602
>think I just gave the cap a 180 twist so that it angled away from the mouth of the bottle and was out of the way.
it's a non issue. you bend the cap out of the way and rotate it to one side when drinking.
>>
>>65108544
This cannot be overstated.

>>65110627
>It's cover for russian imperialism
That too.
Imperialism is the one throughline that makes it possible for Russians to worship Tzar Nicolas, Stalin and Putin in the same breath.
>>
File: 1762871374912964.webm (2.72 MB, 720x960)
2.72 MB WEBM
>>65111198
>SVO veterans with missing limbs gang raping nurses in the rehab hospital
Really?
>>
File: 1749717463713771m.jpg (149 KB, 1024x577)
149 KB JPG
>>65110035
Good post. I am a fervent proponent of TZD but some people take critique of the AFU as seriously as their vatnik counter parts.
>>
>>65111379
Didn’t most of these dudes get droned
>>
>>65111379
>SVO veterans with missing limbs gang raping nurses in the rehab hospital
The ones that come home I mean.
Obviously that's a lot less than left though in general, I think most soldiers still actually survive their contracts.
It's assault troops that die reliably, a lot of others that happened to be on a quiet or defensive part of the front survive their contracts.

I was referring to this:
>"In another hospital, they, in short, raped a girl in a crowd, well, a nurse . <… > She hanged herself afterwards . <... >Well, the special military officers were lying, and the girl, the nurse, was killed in a crowd."
https://t.me/ne_zhdi_novosti/6134
>>
>>65111295
NTA but you know those especially retarded online boomers who write in all caps, have atrocious grammar and spelling, think they're financial wizards because the $20,000 house they bought in 1980 is now worth $2M, think they know more than doctors because they didn't die of COVID and consider themselves political experts because they watch Fox News all day?

That's about as good as it gets on Russian social media. Obviously not exactly the same flavor, but that's the level of quality we're talking about as a BASELINE with a lot of them being way worse.
>>
>>65111152
>Why? I think your view of Austria is very warped
Most Austrians over the past two or so decades have been more right-leaning, voting ÖVP and FPÖ.
Both are parties that have at various times called out SPÖ for almost all of their previous policies, while happily ignoring the utter clusterfuck the right wing left behind in the wake of the Schüssel and Kurz chancellorships.
Please note that my experiences are colored by living in NÖ and having a gf from Kärnten at that time.

>>65111332
>Still curious as to what makes one think that this is an Austrian consesus. The party responsible for the policy (the socialists) have been in the government or 2nd basically since then...
See above. I personally have absolutelly no beef with the SPÖ, and will happily point out how they've done a vastly better job than the SPD (German equivalent party) over the last thirty years.

>>65111159
For the purpose of this particular topic we should look at Vienna and Austria seperately, because Vienna is in a very advantageous position here. The city had extremely forward-looking policymakers for decades, and profits from it to this day.
The Gemeindebau concept is a shining example of how to build living space for the people, and if every city did this we'd live in a better world.
>>
I'm just happy Austria uses the Euro. EU countries that don't use the Euro are fags.
>>
>>65107937
Finnish PM did defend Ukrainians by saying that it was basically only because of Russian EW that they crashed into our soil, so what you are referring to is probably from Latvia then.
Then again our president did say semi directly that he takes joy in russians dying.
https://youtu.be/BT83-kQPqok?t=1146
>>
>>65111141
Partially. It's actually not so uniform and obvious and it wasn't the same across the years.

Point 1. People in mosqueov actually by 2012 had one of those pesky "we already live normally, we now want liberties as well" transformations by 2012, hence the protests at the time. Afterwards the regime had to do a switcheroo by betting on the masses outside mosqueov, to the point of using their rust belt bydlo as potential enforcers in propaganda, as in "If those faggy hipsters in moscow aren't behaving, you just ask us daddy Vladimir and we'll go from our Ural towns to moscow and show them how to behave" and such.

Point 2. People outside mosqueov were hit by the 90s shock therapy economy transformation way harder. Due to multitude of reasons, in mosqueov people started doing business and getting their ass out of the gutter way earlier and more efficient. Partially this was the fact that it wasn't a single market dying industrial town. Partially this was because in the middle of nowhere, so transport issues weren't a thing. Partially this was due to size (local market was a thing). Partially this was due to ease of foreign contact (get on a plane, travel to Turkey, buy local cheap clothes, bring it back with yourself, sell it on the street market for 5x the cash). Mosqueov was moving in the right direction by late 90s, before czar monke and expensive oil even became a thing. Unlike most places outside.

1/x
>>
cont. >>65112337

Point 3. Many people outside mosqueov basically are living on a pseudo-welfare, such as working in bullshit factories making bullshit products, which are propped up by federal funding. Funding which appeared with czar monke because oil became expensive. Some of it is MIC, some of it are "budget embezzlement" projects, some of it is just propping up industries for social reasons. So they correctly associate czar monke with someone who brought them up from the gutters, not realizing that nothing got solved and they are in a feudal dependent state where things are kept just better enough from being in hell, but with no prospects for things to get better. What do you think all those Kremniy El plants are? The Sukhoi SuperJet project? The UralVagonZavod T-90 factory?

So yeah, mosqueov does in fact enjoy a better standard of life, sometimes an order of magnitude better one, and yes it's based on robbing the rest of the country. Make no mistake up to 90% of export revenue of the "moscow region" is oil and gas products which are actually extracted and processed outside the region. However that's done to minimize the potential stability damage to the imperial core of the empire. People protesting in Yekaterinburg? Who gives a fuck, that's a thousands miles away, back behind the Ural mountains. People protesting in Mosqueov? Oy vey, this is an issue and needs to be solved ASAP.
>>
>>65111171
Why wait for the Euro?!
>>
>>65112337
>mosqueov
Why do you spell it like that?
>using their rust belt bydlo as potential enforcers in propaganda, as in "If those faggy hipsters in moscow aren't behaving, you just ask us daddy Vladimir and we'll go from our Ural towns to moscow and show them how to behave" and such.
At this point (2022+4), I hate both rural and urban Russians, but for different reasons.
>People outside mosqueov were hit by the 90s shock therapy economy transformation way harder. [...] Partially this was the fact that it wasn't a single market dying industrial town. Partially this was because in the middle of nowhere, so transport issues weren't a thing. [...] Unlike most places outside.
Whether it's India, the United States, or Europe; I almost never have much sympathy for people in rural areas who complain about a lack of economic opportunity. I get that in Russia or China, moving might actually be illegal, but in most cases, just move.
>>
>>65112355(me)
>>65112351
The bit about the imperial core is 100% dead on.
>>
File: 1777328691279893.jpg (184 KB, 934x1024)
184 KB JPG
>>65111295
You might have seen the "weird russian social network photos" thing at some point? Like "people of walmart" type shit, but 1000x the fuckedness and posted by people themselves because they don't see any issues with what they show to the world. Well, the same people actually also post messages and not just photos. Have you every seen the cringe "shit americans say" compilations where clueless faggots post unhinged shit about Europe and such? Well, it's similar, just even more retarded in both content AND form. Have you seen the famous russian screeaching about Poland having Ikea? Picrel.
>>
cont. >>65112393

But that isn't even the tip of the iceberg. What would you say about the zigger poetry? It's not something cooked up by the regime btw, this is organic ruslim creative output. Both the form and content are truly the reflection of russian culture and society.
>>
>>65112398
I can't believe this isn't a Ram Ranch edit.
>>
File: translated_image_en(226).png (823 KB, 1788x1117)
823 KB PNG
cont. >>65112398

However even that isn't showing how bad things are overall. Back in the day RU anons did some trolling by engaging in operation "vatnik storm" by posting retarded and deliberately fake quotes on the russian social network for 40+ y.o. boomers (odnoklassniki, literally "classmates"). The most famous meme from this was the american "russophobe stone", where a supposed rock addresses russians about how shit russia and its people are compared to the United States. And hordes of 40+ y.o. russians not only took the bait but got ass blasted and went to post retarded unhinged shit, which is even problematic for ORC translators to translate coherently lmao. Imagine people writing death treats to some rock, but also writing it as if someone is fucked up by schizo shit. Chris-chan tier rants and such.
>>
>>65112431
>>
>>65112437
>>
>>65112443
>junta == kyiv junta == how ruslim propaganda called post-2014 ukie government
>militamen == "donbas separatists"
>serova is a feminine translation of grey, lmao
>>
>>65112398
>>65112431
>>65112437
>>65112443
>>65112450
To summarize, the characteristic element is also not only the deranged shit russias write, but also how they write it. These are the people who had to spend a decade in school writing shit, both in terms of following dictation and doing creative writing. Yet just a few years later they would somehow produce Chris-chan tier of bullshit, generating incoherent stream of consciousness type of bullshit as if they are perpetually fucked up by drugs, while also somehow fucking up basic grammar, making three typos in the word "хyй" (khuy, literally "dick", the cornerstone of 50% of russian obscenities).
>>
File: 1776391542123771.gif (477 KB, 176x216)
477 KB GIF
>>65112431
I want to print Russophobe Rock and put it on my wall.
>>
>>65112412
It's not. And that wasn't even the only such example. This is what real russian culture is, not some Tolstoy and Doestoevsky type shit, but unhinged homo rape fantasies and such.
>>
>>65112355
>Why do you spell it like that?
To trigger basement dwelling fans of "based & trad" russia. Which is the most muslim'd and muttified place in Europe.
>>
>>65107720
>eggs have been measured
>eternal flight

>>65107743
>Mali Maelstrom
lmao
>>
File deleted.
>>65112468
May I interest you in some ponies?
>>
>>65110771
this
>>
>>65112273
There's a chance that the crashed drones were of the decoy variety, without the fancy jamming resistant antenna arrays. If the Finnish glowies knew that the stray drones were decoys without an explosive payload (although now that I think of it even the decoys must have a small charge, right?) it'd normal not to nake a fuss about the whole thing
>>
>>65112450
Is that Sasha Grey?
>>
>>65113219
No, it's Sasha Serova, a Russian nurse. Can't you read?
>>
>>65111327
Except, you know, every functional society ever. On both leadership and average citizen level.

"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in."
>>
>>65112355
Mosqueov has a big mosque, bigger than anything found in Western Europe. The mosque was built over a former after the former was demolished, because the demolition made muslims in Russia seethe. So Russians in their cuckolded fashion built a giant 10 000+ capacity mosque to appease muslims. Mosqueov residents have been enjoying calls to prayer and huge muslim crowds praying on their streets since 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Cathedral_Mosque

Russia also has three other huge mosques in Europe, one in St. Petersburg and another one in Kazan.
>>
>>65107697
Tuapse is burning again
>>
>>65113259
This implies that it stopped burning recently.
>>
File: HG-FvcbXEAAmtEU.jpg (53 KB, 960x551)
53 KB JPG
>>65113310
Nah, fires got put out a few days ago. However, new fires were imported in order to continue the enviromental disaster ordnance being put on the local area. Also, apparently a tugboat got struck in Berdiansk as well
>>
That's it! The gloves are coming off.
>>
>>65113314
>a tugboat got struck

There goes the backbone of the Russian surface navy
>>
>>65112337
>It's actually not so uniform and obvious and it wasn't the same across the years
Well they do a lot of things simultaneously, throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks.

For every individual mind (voter/revolutionary), they only need one of the various bits of mud to stick to their brain, so they throw a lot.
And they don't lose if some individuals are resistant to every kind of mud, they're just trying to suppress it on average so that the dissidents or whoever are few and scattered. The FSB can found them up individually, infiltrate, disrupt or suppress their organisating, and if they're few enough, they'll self-destruct anyway, just from not behaving like a peon in a system for peons.

>>65113219
>>65113228
>>65112450
>Cepoвa not Cepый
I love that they took the trouble to turn "Grey" into a patronymic. It's the little touches that elevate trolling to a art.


>>65113314
>a tugboat got struck in Berdiansk
They must have been bingo on fuel/fibre to hit that and not something better.
I wonder if the pilot that did that is getting roasted for it.
>>
>>65113196
>There's a chance that the crashed drones were of the decoy variety
Yeah, I recall some speculation that they were An-196 Liutyis or some other actually capable drones, but after they checked out the debris, it turned out that they may have been something smaller.
Doesn't seem like there was much blast damage at the crash sites, either.

Wouldn't really surprise me if the Ukies were launching flying lawnmowers with Temu electronics along their more capable economy removers, just to saturate local AD.
>>
>>65112484
Wtf I love Rainbow Dash now???
>>
>>65113389
>They must have been bingo on fuel/fibre to hit that and not something better
Most likely it was the only thing worth hitting. Apparently Russians use tugboats to ferry supplies from Crimea to the mainland every now and then.
>I wonder if the pilot that did that is getting roasted for it.
Nah, tugboats are still military assets to some regard. Anything that can help the Black Sea fleet should be scuttled and used as artificial reefs
>>
>>65112355
>Whether it's India, the United States, or Europe; I almost never have much sympathy for people in rural areas who complain about a lack of economic opportunity
It's different. Not only is economic mobility way less of a thing historically (and thus culturally), but it was simply restricted during USSR times. Do you know how things worked in USSR? You're the smart guy, you go to uni, pass the entrance exams if you're smart enough, and get your education for "free", and actually get paid a stipend for some living expenses, if your grades a good enough. Seems fine, yes? Well, then you graduate and the state "distributes" your ass to some enterprise, giving you a job.

Depending on your skills, grades, personal/family nepotism connections you might get sent to who knows where:
- just a small bumfuck town in rural russia, because there's a single-factory-town, where the local enterprise needs a guy like you;
- even more of a bumfuck town, because the party and state wants to "develop" the region in question;
- a harsh bumfuck town in the north, basically same thing but with better pay and benefits, live and work in "space colony" tier environment, get 2x or even 3x the pay ("northern premium"), many would consider a good temporary option (hurr-durr, make money, then find a way to get back into civilization);
- a "closed off" city, basically a premium gulag-town in the middle of nowhere, which isn't even on the map, where they do classified shit, and it's actually considered a good option since it's a sanitized town, no bydlo, less crime, better supplies than the average soviet standard (no market, the state distributes things, so stores in your closed off town would have products while the nearby regular town would have dick) and so on;
- staying in the city, where you went to uni, which is almost a jackpot if you got into a regional capital city or god forbid mosqueov;
- etc, etc, etc;

1/2
>>
cont. >>65113418

So, as you can imagine, a fuck ton of people just ended up who knows where, with many of those places not having normal transport infrastructure or local economies, when the "state owns and manages everything" system went tits up. Like okay, you live in one of those bumfuck places, and you understand that the town is dying and there's no perspective there. What do you do? You need to leave, but you don't have the money, especially you don't have the money to get your crap out of there. But that crap is basically all you have left. Especially if it's your apartment, you can't really easily sell it for any normal amount of money, since nobody wants to buy that crap. You have to get into refugee-tier actions, leaving everything behind to try and escape the region, get to some better place, find a job and income source and get back onto your two feet. Now think how to do that with a wife and kids. Where will you live? How will you survive until you get back onto your own feet at the new place? There are no support systems or social gibs which would help you along. Let alone this being scary since for 70 years the state controlled movement and almost nobody migrated based on their own desires and decisions.
>>
>>65113411
>tugboats are still military assets to some regard
There are a *lot* of tug boats.
Russia isn't going to run out any time soon.
>>
>>65113438
Same with mobiks, but that’s no reason to leave them un-exploded
>>
File: prolapsed.jpg (319 KB, 2048x1290)
319 KB JPG
Tuapse prolapsed today
>>
>>65113590
Again?
>>
>>65113590
It only stopped burning 1-2 days ago, why are they so careless with their oil? Shit's worth big money now days
>>
>>65113604
Well yeah, at least 30% were still no destroyed, so...
>>
File: IMG_6124_no_audio.mp4 (1.29 MB, 720x1280)
1.29 MB MP4
>>65113654
A thing of beauty will never fade away.

Do you think ziggers breathed a sigh of relief when Budanov was transferred to the presidents office to purge corrupt officials?
>>
>>
>>65113590
That is the central storage area, now on fire or gone. I wonder if burning oil flowed into the river.

There are still some refinery parts north of that, and some smaller tanks far north and to the east.
Oh, and the pipeline itself, of course.
>>
>>65108339
It's not just Trump, it's everyone around him that is either a zigger, a zigger lover, or retarded and a demon. The only people who were coping pre-election that he will be tough on russia were people who never bothered to look at his cabinet picks.

When you have Vance jerking himself off with glee because they managed to cut all aid to Ukraine and seethes every night that Europeans are whiter than him, Witkoff who giggles like a schoolgirl whenever he sees the steppe manlet, Kushner corruption-maxxing, GASsad fan Tulsi "Zelenskyiv is a dictator" Gibbard in charge of the DHS, a direct phone line to Tucker "wow, Rasha is so trad and based for having groceries" Carlson, and half the admin using /pol/ lingo, there is no avenue to manipulate Trump into being more supportive of Ukraine, unlike if his cabinet had more neocons like his 1st term. The entire Migger ecosystem is utterly infiltrated by zigger talking points, even people whose job description isn't forpol, like RFK or MTG, can't help themselves but spew NPC Kremlin propaganda

At this point it's basically just Rubio holding the line of Western hegomony, with his phone spammed with calls from every necon in Congress still alive and every ally and vassal of the USA on the planet desperately trying to get through him to Trump and prevent its self-destruction, and their destruction as well.
>>
>>65113711
Don't tworry, Europe is learning, and willl stand on its own. Which means bad news for the US MIC in the middle term, of course.

Sadly, this will not stop the US' western hegemony from tumbling into the gutter because the trust is gone.

And all the noise about 'pivot to china' turned out to be pure BS and a cover story to cut support for Ukraine. The kompromat at work, I guess.
SK and Japan saw this are now doing their own thing, along with the Aussies and Flips.And Vietnam, oof all people.
Western Pacific will stand united to keep China off their backs, without the US.

Also, WestPac just sees all its ammo heading into Iran and the next ME forever war. Maximum kek.
>>
>>65108866
Isekai anime is banned in Russia
>>
>>65113731
It's not an isekai, thoughbeit.
>>65110644
People who have a problem with the way demons are presented in the show are without a fault mentally ill and does indeed map neatly onto people shilling for Russia, lol.
>>
>>65110571
They are supremely annoying for smoothies because you have to a) shake them before use and b) the liquid is very viscous.
So some of it sticks to the bottle cap which then rests at a very unfortunate angle once you open to the bottle and start drinking from it. It's like it's designed to cause dripping.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.