AK General /akg/Krinkov Masterkey Edition>Thread #2094Old thread here >>65023051
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Jack you da goat!
I am once again asking some importer to just make an AKS-74 (not the U) in 5.56. It is all I want, thanks. I am confused why Kike-var put out that video like a year or two ago that was them just saying 'dood, we can't get stamped AKs anymore, just buy our overpriced, overgassed SAM-5's, m'kay?!?'. Weird saying that to customers. Just make it happen you fucks.>Get it in 5.45No. While 5.45 is fucking awesome, it is also no longer 20 years ago when the shit was the same price as 22lr.
>>65108226>just make it happenThe only countries that even made rifles with sidefolder trunnions for AKS-74s were the Soviet Union (and its successors) and Bulgaria. Your only real option out of the USSR countries is Azerbaijan, and you can see the quality of their AK-103 kits yourself to see if it'd be worth it (it's not).Any other manufacturer of them would have a massive buy-in for the production equipment for the trunnions and all that they would entail.I do greatly wish Romarm would start offering WASR-3s again (and that Century would pick them up for import), but I know they're winding down AK tooling for ARX160s instead so they're not really interested in investing more in the AK market.>confused why Kike-var put out that videoK-var wants to keep existing, they have to make some amount of sales. Telling consumers the truth on product availability to try and win back some of them is an obvious first move.
speaking of 5.45 should i sell my saiga? only have like half a can of 7n6 left. havent shot it in a yeardimpled, clamp on handguard retainer, bolt on trigger guard, previous owner only swapped the front sight for a bulgarian, wood ak74 furniture set from rusweapons before they got btfo, and a couple plumsshould i fully convert it or leave that for the next owner
>>65108070Post back of firing pin.
>>65108226Beryl.
Ok /akg/, recommend me the absolute king of AKs in terms of reliability and durability. 7.62 preferred, but other calibers will be considered, as long as reliability and durability are the top considerations.
>>65108659PLO type 2 reweld
Is it unwise to paint a suppressor? I've heard that its easy to smell the burning spray paint for quite a distance.
>>65108702>PLO type 2 reweldwhy? is it because you can control the construction with idea of maximizing durability?
>>65108745youre never going to ambush actual combatants so it doesnt matter
>>65108745The paint will inevitably cook off of it unless you're shooting once or twice every 3-5 minutes and letting it cool between shots.If your goal is to prevent the inhaling of paint, don't paint your suppressor. Or use high-temp paint, ymmv.
>>65108752i think its because type 2s had the most overbuilt receivers, barrel, gas block etc. and those were the only ones that were imported iirc
>>65108745Unwise ? No. Pointless ? Yes. You will spent more time painting than the time it will take for the paint to start flaking off due to heat.
>>65108659Polytech Legend, probably.But realistically, a WASR will outlive you and your kids and their kids.
>>65108659The only king there ever was is the SGL21.
>>65109835Maybe, I had an sgl and slr series aks and kept the slr, I should have kept both but I was young and stupid. As far as superior i believe the slr was because they kept the standard size bolt, the sgl russian rifles had the slim necked down bolt, which made them incompatible with standard akm rifles. Some people claimed they were weaker i don't know, never seen one fail, mine never did. Either way never sell your guns people, especially if it was an sgl plum furniture ak74. Fuck me here's my current slr configuration, I thought I was gonna like it but might switch back to the standard 100 series polymer handguards
Anyone seen these kind of mags before? Been trying to find something similar to these but haven't found anything, any clues?
>>65110111It's not an AK mag, for one. The locking geometry is entirely different and the shape is all wrong outside of the distinct 7.62x39 curve.Do you even have the gun for it, or did you just buy a random mag? Are there markings on it at all? Did you buy it thinking it was an AK mag?It most closely resembles a Mini-30 mag, but an old commercial one by a fly-by-night company that probably doesn't exist anymore.
>>65107987MasterkeyS-74u Swag
>>65110151No markings what so ever, and yes I bought it thinking it was for an ak, dumb I know, just got it cause it looked weird and it was piled with the other ak mags, at the store I got them, and kind of thought it was for some niche mag use at. Spent only 19 bucks on them
>>65110191Yea they're aftermarket Mini-30 mags from the 80sThere's currently an eBay listing for 2 30 round mags that look exactly like those, just longer. They should say "USA Magazines" somewhere on them, the 30s say it on the right side of the mag towards the bottom. I searched "Aftermarket mini 30 mag from the 80s" and started digging.They were dogshit mags then, they're probably dogshit now. If you know someone in a ban state that doesn't do retroactive bans, hock them off on him, they're definitely pre-ban since they're at least a decade older than the federal ban.
>>65110209Huh, well an interesting find I supposed even if they are gonna be shit, both of them are not marked with "USA Magazines" but I did found one exact one on fuddbroker https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1105022328 There's going to be a gun show here in 2 weeks so I'll probably go sell them there, Thanks for the info anon I appreciate it
>>65108601Beryl is annoying since nobody has the upper handguard adapter in stock.>>65108285I know, but it is not dificult to build a rifle with a 4.5/5.5mm side folding trunnion vs. a fixed stock trunnion. Plus K-var should start with asking Arsenal to build shit the USDM is asking for.
>>65110256>not difficult to build a rifle with a side folding trunnionNo, it's not difficult, but it is expensive to get the equipment to make those trunnions. Expensive enough that the payout timetable is long enough that no one who'd order those machines would see the profits, unless you think it'd sell to the degree of replacing ARs on the consumer market.>K-var should start with askingDo you think they didn't? The mil contracts pay more, so Arsenal prioritizes them. The US consumer is second chair to military contracts for import firearms, especially from Bulgaria because of how many Middle Eastern countries go to them for AK shit to retain old small arms training while trying to modernize.You have the relationship backwards, K-var is beholden to Arsenal.
>>65108659Just buy an IO and never shoot it and it will last forever.
Where can I find better drawings with measurements for different muzzle devices?
>>65110453Aside from the 2 articles that picture lead to/csme from, not really.There's not a lot of technical drawings just floating around as is, but as specifically to just the muzzle devices' TDP; I'd say even less so.>I've actually never seen that pic, but I stopped poking around Russian forums years ago, so maybe it is out there.
Figured I'd post this here as well to scout for interest. Looking to sell these items.>BelOMO PO 3.5x21P 3x prism. BDC calibrated for 7.62 (Venezuelan Variant) Includes all OEM hardware.>OTK Sling>ME Ukraine 14x1 LH flash hiderI'd at least like to keep the prism and sling as a package sale. If you are interested in taking it all, please reach out. I'd sell it all for 600.
I got around to doing the JTS measurements. Sorry it took a bit longer than I said.>gas port size is a single ~6.6mm hole located approximately 210mm from the breech face>setting 1 is 2.5m>setting 2 is 4.6mm>setting 3 is 6.6mm My barrel is 11 inches and it will run birdshot on setting 2. I think the newer model uses a different receiver/bolt carrier design so I took some pictures of the M12 receiver length compared to the bolt carrier. I don't think the differences are that major but its possible that one model needs more/less gas than the other due to the differences in carrier travel distance (for example a shorter receiver can get away with less gas because it doesnt have to travel back very far to trip the FCG) These are really rough measurements but I can get more detailed photos/dimensions if you want.
>>65106384I brought the Jack. I was the only one there with a regular AKM shooting irons, everyone else had riced out gamer guns. I think I’ll bring my SLR105 next time. 10/10 would recommend an AK only match
>>65112518based AKM iron sighter making ricers look like pussies
Thinking of plunking down on one as a beater.Which do I pick up?
>>65114577>Pioneer>VSKAAvoid these at all costs, they're not safe to the user.Of the Zastavas, pick whichever one you like the feel of the most. The fixed stock and underfolder are both true M70 pattern rifles, the commercial sidefolder thing is a commercial market abomination (that can be swapped for a fixed stock if you want).The fixed M70 is cheapest, I'd get that. Shame they don't have a WASR instead of the US-made dogshit, but brick and mortar gunshops are never run by smart people.
>>65114606Nta, but I hear Pioneer has forged trunnions now and they're no longer hand grenades.
>>65114577I do like the underfolder...I think I'll cop it.
>>65114648VSKAs also had "forged" trunnions. It being a forging doesn't fix the underlying issue of using an alloy that is unsafe for the purpose. Unless they give proof that they're using proper materials, any claim of "forged components" is more obfuscation to trick idiots out of money.They also have a substandard build quality internally, and everything other than the trunnion and bolt (presumably) is still cast.And on an "unrelated to the product itself" point, Pioneer has hidden behind "Radom Poland" smoke-and-mirrors conflation with Fabryka Broni for long enough while selling pipebomb firearms that I would never do business with them on principle alone. They were willing to lie through their teeth and pretend to be reputable, they are not who you should buy from.
>>65114663https://friscoguns.com/product/zastava-zpapm70-7-62x39mm-16-5-black-under-folder/see price in cart
>>65115249>>65114663
>>65112683I can’t talk too much shit, it was a pretty cool crowd and most of them shot better times than me lolAll in all good times, can’t wait for the next one. Maybe I’ll bring the 5.56 Beryl.
>>65114577Buy #2 the M70 underfolder
>>65115249But it doesn’t have the heckin DISTRESSED wood handguards!
>>65114577>1500 dollar AK as a beater
>>65115249>>65115255Oh shit, alright.But how much is shipping and ffl transfer going to add to this? I've only ever bought guns brick and mortar.>>65115279I don't care either way.
>>65107987what tool do i need to unscrew and change the grips on my wasr 10? and how much does it matter if there's a slightly canted sight post?
>>65115977Cant doesn matter as long as you can zero it. They all have some cant. And a flatnose screw driver will fix your grip right up.
>>65115977Century grip screw? Either a 4 or 5mm Allen wrench. Surplus? The flathead bit in your AK cleaning kit.>how much does it matter if there's a slightly canted sight post?Define slight.It's fine as long as it can be zeroed.
>>65107987Noob question, how far does the bolt carrier move when the rifle is fired? I got a new zastava and the movement is perfectly smooth from battery to about where the bolt clears the magazine even as it goes over the hammer which is great but if I pull it all the way back to the rear trunnion even with recoil spring inserted it seems like the piston head snags on the gas tube or where the tube seats. I didn't shoot the gun yet, waiting for the papers to clear but I have a feeling that it's gonna do some damage when I do fire it
>>65116000I saw these cleaning kits on temu for cheap, are they any good? I already have brushes and jags for cleaning 30 caliber rifles but I thought about buying one like in picrel just to have it because it looks cool
>>65116160it's because it's new, they snag on all sorts of things when you do it slowly and by hand until it's been shot plenty and all the parts start having hot oily friction with each other>>65116165no buttstock trapdoor is complete without one. if you have a butthole, it must be filled
>>65116234I'm just thinking the bolt doesn't really move all the way back to the trunnion when firing but instead goes something like 2/3 or 3/4 of the travel, if that's the case it's alright I don't have a hole but I still wanna have one of these kits because they look nice, not sure about the aliexpress and temu ones and if they suck but I guess they're still a good alternative to originals I can't find anywhere
>>65115930depends on the ffl you ship it to my ffl only charges $25 and if you buy multiple guns at once they only charge once. Shipping is website dependent some do free some charge you it will tell you before you confirm. You should probably call your ffl and make sure they accept transfers and you may need them to email their license to the website if they don't already have it on file
>>65116234>if you have a butthole, it must be filledDon't put in things that don't belong in your buttstock, you could damage the trap door and could wind up loose.
>>65116321Just checked shipping for the M70 on the link you sent. Barely more than 30 bucks. This shit's a steal.I'm going for it.
So how the hell do I clean the gun after shooting corrosive ammunition when there's always some oils and grease in the action, bolt, near the barrel etc? Isn't that just gonna mix with the salts and prevent water from washing them off? Also how do I even know I used enough water?
>>651164951) spray degreaser 2) hose that shit down 3) spray wd or oil
>>65115249does this actually come with the side mount rail? Shitty website barely gives any details. Just weird how it's less than the woodstock UF
>>65116495Hose and ballistol have worked for me.
>>65117152Probably just trying to clear inventory.
>>65117152>does this actually come with the side mount rail?Every picture of that manufacturer's number has that same proprietary Zastava-made underfolder side mount. Zastava still sells the top half as well, $125 on their website, ymmv on availability though.>it's less than the woodstockIt's a discontinued SKU. Zastava no longer offers it, it's liquidation price. It seems to be that the lower half of the rail (the part attached to the receiver) has availability problems for the commercial side of Zastava.Domestic plastic is also cheaper than imported wood (as well as 922r annoyances).
>>65116495how do you know if your ammunition is corrosive or not?
>>65117834You can't 100% know until you fire it, but you can safely guess based on headstamps and brand (surplus combloc ammo is all corrosive). Commercial ammo is a mixed bag. All ammo from Azerbaijan or the central Asian countries is corrosive. Turkish ammo is grossly all over the place in terms of quality (and sometimes corrosive), don't buy it. Western ammo of all kinds (S&B, Fiocchi, US mfgs) is non-corrosive. Ammo from the former Yugo states is generally non-corrosive unless it's surplus. Russian commercial ammo is non-corrosive. Chinese ammo of all kinds is corrosive (if you can even find any still).If you want to know 100% if your batch of ammo is corrosive, take one round, pull the bullet (can be done with pliers) and dump the powder, and then set the casing over a nail and set the primer off and see if the nail rusts in a few hours/a day or two.Fwiw, most 5.45 that exists is corrosive, the commercial Russian stuff we used to get was the exception to the rule.
>>65116294for real surplus there are a bunch available on eBay and also this AK74 one, they are all really nice to have, not sure how the temu ones arehttps://www.desertfoxsales.com/AK_74_Cleaning_Kit_p/dfs-085b.htm
>>65117834For example if you have anything that was produced in Yugoslavia or used by the Serbian, Bosnian or Croatian army during the war, it's 100% corrosive The best way to test it is to pull the bullet out wit pliers, shake the powder out, place the brass with primer on a nail and hit the primer with another nail. Leave overnight, right next to another naked non treated nail. If it starts to rust overnight while the control nail next to it looks fine, you're dealing with corrosive ammunition.
>>65117881>>65118697Is this stuff corrosive? It says M67 on the package which is yugo designation but all of these I've seen were made in the last 10 years in Igman I think
>>65118926The M67 designation refers to the bullet design only. Nothing to do with primer composition.If it's made by Igman from after about 2000 or so it's non-corrosive.For Yugo spec ammo, an easy shorthand is what alphabet is used on the packaging/headstamp if it isn't obviously commercial like PPU. Latin alphabet = non-corrosive and newer, Cyrillic = probably corrosive and older.The "IK" in that label is the headstamp, it's Latin. In Cyrillic it'd be ИК.
>>65117834https://youtu.be/pQPHXEFd05k
I just ordered my first m70.Where should I get magazines?
>>65119629Never mind, I missed the buyers guide
I'm going to shoot this tomorrow or Friday. If it explodes in my face, I will let you guys know.
>>65119115Ok thanks, I'll keep an eye out for them >>65119629I'm 99% sure m70 uses same mags as your usual akm, it's just that m70 mags have bolt hold open which isn't a real bolt hold open because as soon as you pull it out the bolt will drop
>>65119629Any surp mags, original condition preferably, refurbs acceptableArms of America has Polish refurbs for $14 each and "very good/excellent" Yugos for $15 each.What A Country has various combloc mags (Polish, Hungarian, Romanian) in "good" condition for $21 each or a 3-pack of rusted to fuck Polish ones that need refinished for $20 (you can clean up the rust in about an hour, but doing a full refurb would take a bit if you don't have parkerizing equipment).Apex prices are higher than these ($30 per "good" Polish mag or $24 per Romanian refurb), don't even look at them.I'd get the Yugo ones from AoA.If you want plastic, Gunmagwarehouse has Bulgarian reinforced ones for $11 each (if you're fine with the mild green color, the other colors are $14 each). Avoid Fagpul, their AK mags are kinda shit.>>65119926>99% sure m70 uses same mags as your usual akmThey are the same. Yugo mags just have that bolt hold-open follower as you mentioned.
>>65119926>>65119952There's a company called AC that makes polymer mags for all sorts of guns and the AK ones also have open bolt feature. They gave giant quad stack 60 rounders and apparently they're gonna start making 75 round quad stacks which is fucking insane
>>65120047That is true, AC Unity mags have been solid in my usage of them
>>65119629surplus mags when they go on sale at Arms of America.Bulgarian reinforced poly mags when they go on sale at GunMagWarehouse.Other cheap mags from RTGParts or PSA.
>>65120159>Bulgarian steel reinforced mags Perfect, save me from asking about those
>>65120182not that anon but they are really good, you should get some surplus ones too
Got the RAK74 and will be shooting telammo through I am excited.
>>65120182they have cool colors and they go on sale for like 10 or 11 dollars. They're wicked good for the price.
>>65120414the greens are 10.99 right now
Relatively new Serbian M70 clone, anyone had a chance to try it? I'm not into tacticool AKs but this one seems neat, even has flip up night sights.
>>65120972Yugo guys have known about the M05 for a while. It's not ever gonna be available stateside in that configuration. You'll be piece-mealing it together, and the HGs are fairly difficult to find (they come on the M91; that's about the only source for them thusfar). M21 stocks are slightly easier to find, but only just.>tl;dr don't hold your breathe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guns_of_the_SouthJust read this american native-isekai novel.How realistic is to have blueprints for an AK and get it manufactured in 1800's america? Is it a gun that lends itself well to less developed countries?
>>65121033I don't live in USA, I'm in Europe and there's always a few of them in gun shops around me for a reasonable price, I just don't feel like buying it if it's not chrome lined barrel, and didn't really see s lot of information apart from that it's hammer forged and vanadium steel
>>65121062It's not chrome lined and neither were the m70s thst fired thousands of rounds during the war over there and they're still fine because soldiers were taught to clean them whenever possible. And corrosive ammunition isn't gonna disintegrate a gun barrel in front of your eyes if you don't surgically clean it to the point where it squeaks, just blow the residue out with something and don't store your gun in a swamp
>>65121049>Saffies>AK-47Unable to suspend disbelief on that alone>Is it a gun that lends itself well to less developed countries?If the thirdies in the khyber pass can build them, I'm sure America could have figured it out.
Peak ak aesthetic, you can't tell me otherwise
>>65123868
>>65123914Shit, I wasn't ready for that, I apologize
Is Zastava ever going to bring the M90UF to the US market?
>>65124806No
>>65124911;_;
I like to read wikipedia pages with the translate function on Firefox. The Serbian M90 had my favorite translation so far.
AK mag manufacture in what looks like a Kyber pass "machine shop". Was rather satisfying, thought some of you might enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfheXB9StK0
>>65125549Warehouse Nissan hahahahaha
>>65124806i love how dead inside this dude looks
>>65124911gayness
>>65120182I have 10 circle-10 waffles which I bought for $50 a piece. Should I continue buying those or buy the cheaper Bulgarian mags (https://gunmagwarehouse.com/bulgarian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-30-round-reinforced-steel-lug-polymer-magazine.html)?
waiting on this 10/63 to arrive in the mail. 1972 model
>>65127542Nice. I love my Romanian stuff.
>>65126746That is just the default face of a Slav. t.Slav/WOP so I always look dead or am about to kill someone.
>>65107987Why are secondhand PSA beater AKs so expensive compared to buying them new
>>65121049>that time I travelled back in time to help the confederacy win the American civil war so apartheid South Africa could have a future allyThe main thing holding them back would be the less advanced metallurgy of the day. Gun barrel steel of the 1860s just wouldn’t be able to handle modern smokeless rounds given the manufacturing techniques of the time.
>>65127542Are you de-tacticooling it with surp?
rate the rattle can job
>>65130604Drop Dead Fred/10
>>651306040, this isn't call of duty or cs go you fucking idiot. it's 1.5.
>>65108587damn he just like me fr fr
>>65121033bubba was onto something, everything old is new again
>>65130604Honestly? Cool af,fuck everyone else that AK's got some style. Is that Palmetto State? Those are the guns you don't have to worry about turning into toys.
>>65130391because people who implusively bought something want all their money back
>>65129350>kaballah bracelet
I seriously need to find somebody in my area that can 3D scan the Makarov grip so I can clone the SoC PMM.
>>65107987WASRs are good, actually
>>65133792
Is the O-PAP any good? A local shop has one near me and it is tempting. But I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to Yugo pattern AKs other than the current lineup is called ZPAP.
>>65134340>Is the O-PAP any good?Yes, but it kinda depends on which batch of OPAPs it came from whether it'd be worth it over a new ZPAP. >They started to run out of OG parts and started using newer NPAP components towards the end of the runThings like the FSB without the night sight cutout is indicative of one of these late run OPAPs. How much?
>>65124806They have a better chance of making something in 5.45
>>65115655>>65120099>>65120108When this shitass war is finally over and the fog fully clears, we are going to be inundated with so many fucking giga-bubba monstrosities. What little trickles out onto Telegram chats now are just the tip of the iceberg
>>65134340OPAPs were made from surplus parts imported by Century. As the other anon said, they sorted in NPAP parts on later ones as surp dried up, easy to check by things like the front sight block having the night sight (if so, it's surp) and the furniture (if it still has the wood it was imported with at least). Surp wood is darker in color and will have a serial number pressed into it, or even a Serb crest in some cases. JNA arsenal standard was just the serial imprint, the crest would have been done during/after the war.NPAPs were imported at the same time as the OPAPs by Century using new production parts instead of surplus.ZPAPs are just NPAPs, but imported by Zastava themselves since they opened their own import branch.There have been fluctuations in QC on the N/ZPAPs over the years but they've been consistently solid for the whole time they've been called ZPAPs afaik.If the OPAP is all surp parts and the price is decent ($900-950 max if it's used), I'd go for it.
>>65134386You don't even know the half of it
>>65134386
>>65134387>OPAPs were made from surplus parts THEN imported by CenturyImportant distinction, just in case you were implying they were kit built by Century.
>>65134529No, I was meaning the same as you were, Zastava built them and Century imported them.1000 character limit prevented me from clarifying better.
>>65134529>>651345422bf Century did sell kit built Yugos as well. Adding to the confusion, they subcontracted the builds out to DC Industries and a couple other smaller builders.
>>65134542Alright, cool.Going back to this post >>65134387>Surp wood is darker in color and will have a serial number pressed into it, or even a Serb crest in some cases. JNA arsenal standard was just the serial imprint, the crest would have been done during/after the war.The laser engraved Serb crest was done in the States, I think it was just a gimmick that century came up with to make them "more marketable". Plus it was a crap shoot if you'd get one so it kinda worked, since after the first batch was gone people started getting "blank" surp stocks and the crested ones started to be more sought after.Also there's 2 kinds of wood Zastava used, iirc beech and elm. The beech ones are the lighter ones>mine, after several treatments of Formby's Lemon oil (discontinued)
>>65134365>>65134387>>65134529>>65134542>>65134567ty for the info anons. I mildly lied in it being my LGS. It is my "LGS" since I only go to actual LGSs to pick up my firearms I buy online, but if you are curious the rifle I am talking about is on a certain broker site atm...some would say they specialize in guns. It is the one for 500 American funtime Pesos.
>>65134567It's fairly easy to distinguish between the kit builds vs Zastava factory made at least as far as Century guns go. (Mitchell imported Yugos had a completely different designation scheme, the M77 being imported as M90(?) as an example)>Factory made - Sporter type naming scheme (OPAP, NPAP, ZPAP)>Kit build - Usually named it's military designation (M70B1, M70B2, M70AB2)
>>65134583Didn't know that about the crests being a stateside thing, that's really weird. Who was asking for it? I get the whole "trench art" thing with genuine in-field modification to wood, but the importer putting the crest of the rump state of the country that made the rifle's internals on it seems really out of left field.I'd figure that "original" condition would be more desirable, since that's how it is in the milsurp world and these were effectively milsurp rifles.>beech and elmYou're correct, but also add birch. The only "correct" stock material is just to do an arboreal study on Yugoslavia and the Carpathian basin. Fwiw, my M24/47 Mauser is elm, my M59/66 SKS is birch, my M72 kits are birch, and my friend's NPAP and M90 are beech.We've also got the classic "cosmoline" excuse for darker surp wood of course.
>>65134735>Who was asking for it?Nobody, initially. But it was effective. OPAPs sold like hotcakes.Probably where WBP got their coat of arms engraving idea from. >I get the whole "trench art" thing with genuine in-field modification to wood, but the importer putting the crest of the rump state of the country that made the rifle's internals on it seems really out of left fieldBest guess; at that time Yugo trench art stuff was juat getting kind of popular, so I'm guessing it was just a marketing schtick to try and capitalize on some of that popularity.I vaguely remember reading about the laser engraving on either the AK Files or the AK Forum, like someone knew the engraver or something to that effect.>take this with a grain of salt as I may be retarded and completely misremembering all of itNot the provenance of the engraving mind you, just the details.
>>65134806>I may be retarded and completely misremembering all of itVindication. Well sort of. This post from '13 says Zastava did the engraving
>>65135048While this post from '19 says the concensus is that it was US done.
Hello I am in the market for a sling with more quick adjustment than this blue force gear sling I haveIf I set this one to be a little taut around the stock it doesn’t quickly pull loose enough to fit onto my body easily, but if I run it loose enough to quickly pull out and toss on it does not tighten enough to stay taut on the slingDoes the vickers custom sling have more adjustment? Are there any better options out there? I haven’t used this site in forever but yall autists ought to know more than me
>SAM5s are 1500 bucks right nowconvince me to not go into credit card debt to pick one up 400 dollars off
>>65135455Credit card debt is just layaway under a different name and with no wait. Plus it makes the jews who own us happy (until you pay it off)Do eet.
This crate of 7n6 ammo, 11 mixed Polish and Bulgarian issued black 74 mags and a Century built Tantal for $1400 OTD. Fair price or did I fuck up?
>>65129358interesting, AK74M but with older AK74 dust cover
>>65135698As long as it's not one of the 5.56 barreled Tantals, not too bad at all. >going by the lone listing for a crate of 7n6 on GB, you got a gun and 11 mags for ~$200
>>65114606Those prices are outrageous. I'd never pay more than $1100 for a Zastava.
is milsurp as a whole dead? it seems like everything has dried up and nothing is being imported to replace it. last thing i remember was the batch of vz61s but they've tripled in price so i assume no more are coming in either
>>65135726Sadly it didn’t have the original furniture, it came tapco’d out down to the muzzle so I swapped the furniture with some leftover crap I had laying around. Came with some loaded magazines too, got another 175 rounds of 7n6 from the mags. Found out this 7.62x39 Strela AK74 style brake fit on it with a 14x1LH adapter.
>>65135457truth nuke anon, SAM5 ordered
>>65135974I'm honored to help other anons make financial decisions as poor as my own.
has anyone here actually mounted a laser on a midwest barrel clamp mount and does it hold zero?
Does nobody run a wasr anymore?
>>65136256Laser is for rapid acquisition at close ranges anon, how zero'd do you need it to be? The midwest barrel clamp will hold.
>>65136580What?That's all any new AK buyers are told to buy these days. Who told you no one's buying WASRs?
>>65136580everybody
>>65136256It holds a flashlight steady (after gluing) but I wouldn’t trust it to hold a zero on a laser as it’s literally just a clamp.
>>65114577>all slant brakes
>>65136580Theyre the Asian sedan of AKs in the US
Hey fellas, I used to have a few AKs, but have sold/traded them off in the late 2010s. I kind of want back in. I was thinking a WASR or M70, if not I was thinking maybe one of those Atlantic kit builds, but I've never seen anyone actually use/talk about them.
>>65136837Atlantic kit builds are fine IME, nothing special but it won't hurt you either. They use good receivers and rivets, use acceptable barrels and they actually assemble it properly.They're bog-standard AK kit builds at a price a bit higher than a WASR using parts that are in slightly worse shape than a virgin WASR (because they were assembled at least once before and most likely fired a few times in training).If you want the AK ecosystem and aren't autistic about cloning or surp correctness, get a WASR. If you want into the much smaller Yugo ecosystem, get the M70. If you want to LARP a Romanian conscript in 1980 for surp correctness, consider a kitbuild from Atlantic/AoA/somewhere else (or DIY).
>>65136918Thanks, I remember seeing them a while ago thinking they looked quite nice in the pictures. And nah I was happy with my WASR, actually one of my biggest regrets was trading it off, it was my first gun I got for myself when I turned 18. I traded it for a Nambu, but I still had a SLR-104 at the time.
>>65136580It's literally my favorite AK>>65136837WASR or one of those kit builds, idk what one you're looking at but I think kit builds are cool as fuck.
>>65137147>kit builds are cool as fuck.Maybe I'm mistaken but I thought atlantic was selling ready made kitbashes. That's what I was thinking rather than buying a parts kit and sending them out to a builder but that might be a good option. WASR is probably what I'll do though, it just depends how much I want a bayonet lug really.
>>65137177I have an Md.65 underfolder kitbuild from Atlantic. The receiver says the rifle was made by "Atlantic Arms mfg" in Duluth, MN off of a Morrissey receiver. Atlantic Arms mfg is a subsidiary company of Atlantic (the merchant) with a separate manufacturer FFL, so for all intents and purposes it is an in-house build, not contracted out to a separate builder.
>>65137177I've never heard their kit builds being kitbashed, some aren't fully numbers-matching but are labeled and priced as such. Their in-house builders are good to go as well.I don't see any of their builds in stock what one are you looking at?If you did go the demilled kit way and have a builder do it for you, tons of options for that too. Lots of cheap parts kits floating around right now, lots of expensive kits too if you wanted something not-Romanian.
>>65137271>>65137254Oh I just misused the term. I'll probably just come down to what's in stock. I kind of want a Yugo just because the balkan war music is pretty catchy but I'd prefer to have a standard AKM type rifle.
>>65137587You can still LARP the Yugoslav war with an AKMAll factions in that war bought everything they could, which was everything from the Warsaw Pact countries because the USSR collapsed 2 years prior.There's a lot of pictures of various militias using Romanian, Hungarian and Polish rifles, though the Romanian are easiest to spot because of the lower handguard.
>>65137677>lower handguardDo their military rifles not have the palm swell either? I figured that was just a WASR import thing.
>>65137679>Do their military rifles not have the palm swell either?Correct. The foregrip made the palm swell useless in the eyes of the designers.Both types of foregrip handguard (forward on fixed stock and backwards on underfolders) have the same lack of a palm swell.Pic related is an underfolder, and I know you've seen a fixed stock handguard before to know what I'm talking about.
>>65137691Who tf calls it a "foregrip handguard"?They're dongs, m8
Who's buying these things?>$1700
>>65137717For a $150 more you can buy a Meridian AK100 series.
>>65137707Me, because I hate the "commodified reddit meme"-ing of it. Same with "cheese grater" upper handguards.It's a done-to-death meme that gets thrown in circles by insufferable fags, so I avoid it.Yes, I'm an insufferable contrarian, it's why I'm a 5.45fag even through all this availability pain.>>65137717>who-desperate retards who want a 103 but are smart enough to know that PSA is dogshit-desperate young guys who missed the Saiga train by nature of being under 18 in 2014-desperate young guys who missed KUSA guns by nature of being post-college adults post Kung Flu so they had no money while KUSA was alive-dumbfucks who see "import from former USSR country" and think it's good-people in states that can either get price-gouged or never buy one because of new laws (like Virginia)-people who are willing to pay up to have a "genuine" 103 and fall into one of the above categoriesAnd a few other caricatures I didn't think of.
>>65137746>Yes, I'm an insufferable contrarianAt least you're self-aware> it's why I'm a 5.45fag even through all this availability pain.I regretfully retract my previous statement.
>>65107987
>>65138352>suppressed under barrel grenade launcher>supressed grenade launcherwhat
Anyone taking advantage of the Arsenal sale? Thinking of picking up a SAM5 or a SAM7SF can't decide which one to get.
>>65138567Update, I bought a SAM7SF. $1500
>>65138567>>65138675Based, yeah I got a SAM5, literally said to myself that would be my next rifle in three or four months and couldn't resist going for it at that priceArsenals for like 1400-1500 bucks is a banger deal. It's really what they should cost most of the time
>>65107987any backstory for this image?
>>65138463captive piston cartridges launch the grenade so no audio report is made other than the round leaving the tube
>>65138463
>>65138734Still should be $1k or less in my mind, but whatever thats the AK market. $1500 is used Arsenal prices nowadays so I was happy to scoop it up.It was a hard decision between the two for me, but ultimately the SAM7SF has more of the features I want out of the box.
i got both lmao
>>65139808Anon, are you sure you're ready for all of that Bulgarian energy?
>>65140093No. I’m already out of room, I need to sell a couple rifles first just to fit them.
>>65140348>Selling AKs>not buying another, even bigger safe
>>65140473I have two safes and both are completely full. I think I have around 19 AKs alone and I’m still waiting on 6 parts kits to be built. I think I’ll be ok if I get rid of some shitty WASR or a Jack lol
>>65140562How much 7.62x39 do you have?
>>65140588Plenty of 7.62 and 5.45. I’ve been in AKs for 10 years now. Based digits.
should i pick up one of those M77 kits from apexak in reak fukken nato
>>65140562please post your 19 AKs we want to see
>>65140982I don’t want to drag everything out again and play tetris getting everything back into the safes for a (you) but here’s my inventory list. My collection is pretty boring, they’re all just wearing surp furniture, but if theres one you’re dying to see lmk and I’ll get it out. >7.62x39SLR107FRPm md. 63PM md. 90Beryl x2AK-63 DAK-63 FWASRJackM70M92>5.45x39SLR105AIMS-74>5.56x45Beryl x2Mini BerylM85M90>.308M77>KitsM72B1AMD-65M70AB2
>>65140967I wouldn't unless you really can't find the full rifle anywhere. AFAIK the only people making trunnions/receivers are Riley with their RAK308c (fully milled receivers like an M76) and Recreator who are doing stamped trunnions. Add the price of a barrel and you're approaching if not surpassing the price of a complete Zastava.
Is a SAM5 worth getting if I already own a Beryl and would probably have to sell a rifle and maybe a handgun to get the Bulgarian blaster? If it isn't worth picking up would a SAM-7UF make a good first AK in 7.62? Same selling requirements would also apply as with the SAM5. I'll mention the firearms on the chopping block if anyone cares enough.
>>65141514>Is a SAM5 worth getting if I already own a Beryl and would probably have to sell a rifle and maybe a handgun to get the Bulgarian blaster?Depends heavily on what you’d be selling. 5.56 AKs are cool but AR15s will be better in every single way when it comes to 5.56. Kike-var offers layaway too if thats something you need. >If it isn't worth picking up would a SAM-7UF make a good first AK in 7.62? SAM7SF not the UF. But desu a WASR, Jack or M70 would be a much better first 7.62 AK. >I'll mention the firearms on the chopping block if anyone cares enough.Yeah lets hear it. And I’m the retard above that just bought both the SAM5 and the SAM7SF
>>65141535I was debating on selling >21" DSA Para FAL I got back in December, I own an Israeli FAL as well. But I don't see myself shooting either all that much over the next 4-5 years and I'd rather keep my Israeli FAL as I built it and I have a connection to it because of that.>FM made Hi PowerI have what appears to be an unfired Argie made Hi-Power, came with the original box and some certificate from Argentina with the inspectors name. I don't see mysepf wanting to shoot it ever.>Jericho 941 Its cool, I made a ragged one hole with it my first time to the range with it at ten yards. But I kinda just prefer the Beretta 92 if I am gonna have a full sized handgun.>Garand in 308Pros: Its American. Its fucking cool. Freedom. McDonalds. Liberty.Fuck yeah!Cons: I have never gotten through a clups worth of ammo without an issue. Either it doesn't pick up a round or doesn't want to load a clip. I have tried everything, new springs, made sure the op rod was bent, new gas plug, etc. I just cant get it to run sadly. I have owned it for 8 years and I just don't care anymore about it, plus 308 going up in price doesn't help matters either.Ty for coming to my Ted Talk. Also I jusy saw that Kikevar is only allowing 250 of each SKU to be sold at the discounted price so by the time I were to sell off my firearms the SAM-5 would probably be 'sold out' anyhow.
>>65141795I would get the SAM you want now and sell the DSA and the Garand.
>>65116403>2007>get wasr 10/63 as my first ak>excited>stick my finger in to get the cleaning kit>finger gets stuckAh, memories.
>>65142094>finger gets stuck>"finger"Sure, anon. Sure. We believe you
I've been sitting on this Saiga 308 project for years now but I don't know where to go with it anymore. Modern furniture? Saiganov? Something different?There's virtually zero support for Saigas anymore. Not a surprise given they've been banned for what, 12 years now? And Saiga 308s don't take all of the same parts as the 7.62x39 or 5.45 which do enjoy some support via AK-100 series stuff. The rear conversion is more-or-less done and nothing done to the front. I'd like to thread the barrel but I don't want to do it myself, no local gunsmiths know how to work on AKs (ARs and bedding hunting rifles is all those lazy fucks do), and in WA every other smith is terrified of shipping guns into and out of state for service despite that being literally specified to be legal both at the state and federal levels. So whatever work gets done needs to be done by me and me alone. I've got AK building tools, a hydraulic press, all that shit. I just don't want to do it for fear of fucking it up and creating yet another layer of questions for this project.Looking back, having bought it unfired and unconverted during peak Covid for 1.5k, hindsight is always 20/20 but I didn't think we would get any more .308 AKs yet here we are. For the record, I'd get one of those Riley-built M77s in 308 on milled (Tortort) receivers in a heartbeat if I could.Thanks for reading my blog please remember to like and subscribe and click the bell to turn Notifications on.
>>65139808I was going to shitpost about "who has 3k for guns in todays economy" but I impulse bought a FAL in January so I cant talk. Enjoy the rifles.
>>65142003I am not even sure I really am crazy over the SAM-5 and am more motivated by FOMO. A day or two ago I was looking into an M90 if I was going to stick with normal firearm hobbies or was going to go down the bullseye pistol shooting rabbithole and mod my one Beretta 92 up with target sights, a Bar-Sto barrel, and the Langdon tactical trigger job in a bag. Was also looking into getting a Pardini K12 air pistol. But even that I am not sure of since I haven't had the desire or motivation to go to the range for years now. I hate where I live.>>65142283>WA WoesI had a friend in the Sea-Tac area who talked about what you were going through almost daily. They felt like they were married to their current collection of rifles since they couldn't get anything new. It is really a shame. The Pacific NW is honestly the most beautiful part of the country i m o. I am hoping OR doesn't lose their gun rights. I know there was some bill that is in limbo right now that, if it passes, would turn the state into little Washington or California with shitty gun laws. I mention this because I would like to live out there someday.
>>65142397You got a para fal too?
>>65142536Yeah, no regrets
>>65142556Does yours have a big fuck you burr on the big screw hole for the stock assembly too? Otherwise, yeah, it is alright. My one friend irl offered to buy it off of me later this summer and I may take him up on it though.
>>65142532I own one. M90 is a great option, adjustable gas block and 18” barrel for better 5.56 velocity. However, I would get the SAM5 over the M90 at these prices. But personally I would take the SAM7SF above all else
Is a PSL/Paying the Obama tax on Vepr the best way to get a wood thumbhole stock Battle rifle? I want a fuddy kind of Battle Rifle and the M14 is too shit and the BM59 is too mundane. I miss the era of military rifles being dolled up as deer guns.
>>65142653No, mine is the 50.63 model they sell and its a mix of FN and US parts. The stock assembly is all original FN and doesn't have any burr.
>>65142730Ah I see, I went with the 50.61 and mine is all DSA. It isn't bad, I just kind of regret getting it now.>>65142688Yeah it is kind of why I am not really motivated to get the SAM5 other than the fomo I mentioned. The M90 seems great, so why pay more for the Bulgarian option? Also since both of them don't take standard AKM furniture (with the SAM series it isn't just plug and go with the handguards tmk). So I guess if I get a SAM series I'd want the SAM7UF. Mainly because I like folders. I know underfolders aren't great, but I was looking at it more as a rifle I get zeroed, have a tin or two of 7.62x39 sit around for it and I never use the rifle as I'd want it for a bugout rifle. If it never gets used? Great! The world didn't go to shit and my family gets a nice heirloom when I die from my health issues in 15-20 years.
>>65137742Is a Meridian about the same quality as an SGL21?
Any recommendations on what to do with this FEG SA2000? I got it last year and just finished converting it to take standard AK mags instead of the proprietary cuck 10rd magazines. The GB is in the AMD-65 spot but it has a fixed stock trunnion and the FSB is in front. I could move the FSB back without much trouble but then what would I do with the rest of the barrel? Basically, should I do a half ass AMD-65 build or try to pass it off as an AK-63 with proper furniture?Currently have 3d printed grips and stock as a place holder until I figure out what I want to do.
>>65142967Nigga that is some Azerbaijani bullshit.
>>65143095I say 63
alright so i ended up buying one of those bulgy type 3 kits from apex. anything i should know? ive built one before, a chinese mix matched bullshit rifle on a virgin century misr90 receiver, so i have a little experience populating the barrel and headspacing and whatnot. ill have to buy a jig to rivet the trigger guard, but nothing else since the receiver is milled right?
>>65143395Lower stock tang is riveted in place, no?
>>65143466oh yeah youre right. for some reason i thought it was dovetailed in. could you also use the trigger guard jig for that?
Is Ivan tactical still operating? Sent them 200 in meme coin for a LAC vepr adjustable gas block and have not heard shit in almost a month. Have i once again been yoinked by the Russians?
>>65142283Have you looked at the barrel threading kits Carolina Shooter Supply sells? I've used them before. Some of them come with an annular cutter so you can thread the front sight block itself. You just need to find the kit that will accommodate the outer diameter of your barrel or front sight extension thing. My local gunsmith is also a dipshit that I don't trust to do anything beyond cerakoting. Once tried to have him drill a barrel pin only for him to oversize the hole and fill in the empty space with loctite. I finished up my Kyber Pass stock today. I fabricated the triangle folder with a hammer and hydraulic press and then I spliced it onto a spare AMD-65 pivot piece. Finished with cold blue. I'll probably end up installing it on my 5.56 AMD in the future but for now its gonna live on the SBR. >>65143095Arms of America has the blue furniture in stock for relatively cheap.
Are sgl31s still valuable?
>>65144017Why wouldn't they? Nigga wut
>>65144094I'm just flexing bro don't worry bout it
>>65144128rather foidly of you isn't it?
>>65144017not particularly. youd be lucky to get $800 for them now. 5.45s are worthless now that 7n6 has dried up. maybe list it on armslist and give me the link, ill take it off your hands for ya
LGS has an AK like this one, tell me why I shouldn't.>tfw its only $1000
>>65144644>IO incIf you are seriously considering paying for this shit then you must have some brain problems>$1000 for a IO incfucking. no. go get something else, even a PSA if you're desperate but don't fucking buy it
>>65144644>paying 1000 doll hairs for an example of how not to make AKsI'd tell you to kys, but with an IO it's just a matter of time anyway. gg no re
>>65144644those were the worst of the worst steaming shitpiles from 10-15 years ago or so. shearing bolt lugs, blowing up front trunnions, excessive headspace, etc. honestly i beleive it should be deactivated and sold for display only
>>65143701If you have a side rail, does that stock there in the image have a complete lockup when folded? I have the AK to AR folding tube adapter by GPN and my side rail prevents it from locking up. I thought about tapping some holes in it and trying to reverse it but the hardware won't allow for it, specifically the swivel pin. I've been using a ranger band on a QD swivel to keep it closed when needed for now. I don't get why these aren't all made to be reversible.
>>65137746For me, I like the idea a "genuine" 103, and I think it has some claim to the title. I'd be willing to buy one regardless because the idea of an Azerbaijani AK is just kind of cool. Maybe because they're new-ish on the market, but I just think they're neat. Frankly, I think for many guns, that's reason enough to buy them if you find the price reasonable or are just willing to pay it regardless. I'm not rushing to get one, but I have it somewhere on the to-do list. I would bet at least 90% of the guns people buy in this country are for recreational and collecting purposes anyway.
>>65144644This is like looking at a rusty shitpile of a car that last ran 30 years ago and asking if you should buy it for 15 grand and turn it into a race car. Do not fucking buy it. WHEN it comes apart and injures/maims you, you will regret your purchase. It is a matter of WHEN, not IF.
>>65144644Buy it, get back to use when it blows up and your hand has a variety of trunnion/ bolt bits lodged into it, post results.
>>65144644>IO>1000 doll hairskek. fucking kek. my lgs has a century for 800 and itll run at least twice as good as an IO. If you really want something from that shitstain go to rti and buy a partial parts kit and the parts you'll need anywhere else. Honestly i would go for the m70b1 if i were you and buy a new manufacture Yugo barrel and a bent Yugo receiver from childers, then get everything else from apex. best bet and it'll cost about 1k in parts and labor
>>65145786on the topic of RTI, I got my MPiKM partial in and that fuckin barrel is a sewer pipe. good thing i had a barrel and bolt for another akm project i was gonna do, It'll cut down on perceived cost. now to just buy a press....
are TIGRS still valuable?
>>65146145Nah, worthless. Why? You got one? I’ll give you $500 and a 12 pack for it, no counter offers, take it or leave it.
>>65140982not him but heres a shitty pic of my 19 aks
>>65107987Never touched atf before but bought a small jug and mixed it with mineral spirits to make a sort of ed's red but without acetone or kerosene. Holy fuck atf smells bad I'm thinking it's not even worth it and I should just use straight spirits like I always did
>>65147109AC Unity quad stack on a mini jack huhis that mag worth anything? I just got one for my Beryl and M90
>>65147236I cannot lie it has never jammed on me after many range trips. One time an rso made fun of it assuming it would jam so I told to watch me dump it and it ran
>>65147281that's good for 7 dollars. I think that's what PSA had them for. I got mine for 8 i believe. Now i must find the time to actually shoot.
>>65147109>Gee Bill, your mom let you have thirteen 7.62x39 AKsNeat collection
Do you keep the cardboard boxes your guns ship in? I have been saving them for some reason but I think I should throw them out. Its starting to pile up in my garage.
>>65147588The only reason I can think of to keep the box would be to increase resale value, and shooting the gun hurts that value more than having the box would help it.If you want to keep the box for a few rifles you really like, or if the rifles are rather nice or you think will be worth a lot in the future (like a Vepr for a recent example or like old Norinco AKs), I'd say keep it; if you're looking at a pile of middle merchant repackaged-for-shipping boxes from Century or Atlantic or another place like that, I'd say burn them.
I bought a PSA premium ak103, what am I in for? Haven't shot it yet, but the sights aren't canted so thats good.
>>65147793>what am I in forFirstly, it's a 103 in name only. It's AKM internals with a Russian commercial rear trunnion and front end blocks. Just to keep in mind for replacement parts and what to expect when you look at it. But beyond that:Either>RMAs to the point that PSA has the gun for more of the year than you door pick at least 2 of these>gun wears and inevitably dies faster than it should>internals may be "tuned" (read: bent with a fucking hammer) to make it run because the receiver rails and gas block aren't in alignment>but it runs and it looks nice in picturesIf you shoot less than 500 rounds a year (the PSA target market according to themselves), you most likely won't notice any problems until a decade or so from now.
>>65147825Good times, then. I took a gamble on it knowingly, I will shoot the hell out of it at the lake house and report back in a couple months. I've heard it can wear in weird places and thats the main thing to look out for if the sights aren't canted.
To ferrule...https://www.apsfirearms.com/AKM-Wood-Grip_p_94.htmlOr not to ferrulehttps://www.apsfirearms.com/Fat-Grip_p_107.htmlThat is the question.In all honesty, is wood cracking under screw torque really that big of a risk? I like the way the all-wood looks, but there's this nagging in the back of my mind about how much torque it can take.
Anyone want to spend $1000 on a stock Saiga 308?https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1175796790Not associated with the seller in any way, I was just idly browsing GunBroker and found it.I'd have bought it myself, but alas, I want to do ~$20k of home improvements in the next few years + save up $3k for inevitable future vet bills. Better one of you boys has it than some geezer who'll just try to flip it.
>>65148167I would but I fucking despise people on GB who do the "contact seller for payment" shit. Do immediate checkout so I'm not tasked with calling some mouth breathing retard in a gunshop who doesn't know what I'm talking about because the guy who listed it isn't in that day.
>>65147944>the recommended torque of an AK grip screw is between 25-32 in/lbsIt's a grip bruv, not a head bolt. Stop using a cheater bar to put your grip on and you won't be worried about cracking a fucking grip.>ferrule master race
Do older Arsenal AKs lack anything meaningful from current generation ones? I know older options like the SA93 and SLR95 need to have some conversion work done to de-ban them, but is there any quality issues?
>>65136580
>WBP has phosphated bolt carriers>but they don't put them on their guns or in their kits, you can only buy them individually from Atlantic>and you have to do the piston riveting yourselfIs it worth it to sate my autism on a 5.56 build or do I just full send on the in-the-white one in a kit to save the headache
>>65150466buy a cleaning rod
>>65148399>I would but I fucking despise people on GB who do the "contact seller for payment" shit. Do immediate checkout so I'm not tasked with calling some mouth breathing retard in a gunshop who doesn't know what I'm talking about because the guy who listed it isn't in that day.They're doing that so you don't have to pay gunjoker fees retard
got a SAM5 on the 250th sale. she's a heavy bitch
>>65107987Metal magazines are not feeding without significant effort on the user's part for my M72 (top).Is it because it doesn't have the detent on the body like when they just mill out a single-stack for a double? How do I fix this, just keep inserting until she takes the D?(other examples are m92 (middle) and mini draco (bottom)
>>65151419I'm not sure what youre asking. Are the magazines not seating easily? Or are you having ammunition feeding issues while shooting.Try with different magazines. In my experience polymer mags are more difficult to insert and rock-and-lock than metal ones due to their slightly larger size.
>>65151490Seating issues on steel stamps. Eats the shit out of non-bakelite polymer. Just jamming them in there, and the metal ones practically need to be ripped out.
>>65151610You're not really providing enough coherent info to diagnose what's going wrong but it could be that your mag catch needs some fitment or your magwell is undersized.
>>65151610That looks like a Childers receiver. My AK74 on a Childers has a tight magwell too. Insert and remove a metal mag over and over again to wear-in the parts better. Ideally you will use different metal mags for this, I only have 1 Tantal mag and it's in really nice shape so I don't want to fuck it up. An M72 doesn't have this issue, lots of mags to choose from
>>65151169Irrelevant. Rail doesn't allow
>>65151884I believe it was straight from Zastava in January 2025 just when they started importing the M72s (with detachabale bipod) but right before they said they weren't importing anymore with the Trump import tariff reexaminations. In this little window it isn't a kit build.I noticed that it doesn't have that detent like my other AKs, and read into it more that regular export single stack sporters just have their magwells cut out to accept the standard magazines, and wondering if they missed a step at the end.
new york times put out an article about why AKs are unpopular in the US.
>>65152624Cool, thanks for posting the link.
>>65107987Behold.
Added two new full autos to my safe. A PM md. 63 and a good old Arsenal. The wood is crusty as fuck on the PM, dunno if i will do something about it.
>>65151419Have you tried filing the feed lip on the mag?
>>65153220I didn't really want to modify anything without quite figuring out the problem. It's mag fitment on steel mags, and the only thing I can see visually is the non dimple or divot or whathaveyou on the bottom of the receiver body as shown alongside the other two aks.Before it comes time for a file and removing material, I figured I should just insert and eject repeatedly while watching a movie with some beers to see if it works itself out through repeated action.
>>65152998nta, but google is a hell of a thinghttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/13/us/ak-47.html?fbclid=PAb21jcARxz45leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAafEv-fyFGIYRGQubLv9UuZxtJM-c2-v-Z4dRYbZakc11gaqplV5jYuXRtUKqA_aem_OD_hUXrfxs_dpy3C2NLXRg
>>65153234Not my responsibility to look it up when someone else is mentioning a specific source.
>>65153234Poor Jim, I hope we have a revival bros. Does anybody think it will happen?
>>65153524Fuck Jim Fuller. That meth nigger is responsible for more retards in the AK market than anyone else.>revival >Does anybody think it will happen?There's probably more AKs coming in now than ever before, but it's no longer a poorfag gun.
>>65152444a cleaning rod is more useful than that rail you put on
Are peep sights on AKs worth it?
>>65156868that kind nothe techsights kind yes
>>65156868gay
>>65107987Still thinking of the sketch of an AK made by a glownigger spy all the way back in 1953 and how it was the first time da west learned about the existence of this gun
>>65157190Iirc the west knew about it in 1949 but because of the iron curtain, they didn't know what it looked like.>thus you "draw an AK from memory" sketchAnd even when we finally got our hands on one they incorrectly labeled it as a submachinegun and military brass dismissed its effectiveness.
>>65157258Well it wasn't the first assault rifle wrongfully classified as a submachine gun, stg44 was called mp so moustache man and company could think it's yet another schmeisser iteration while it's being made I'm now interested in knowing what did they think AK looks like before they saw it
>>65156868If you plan to shoot it past about 50m yes. The pistol sights are fine for the glorified SMG work the gun was built to do but if you want to shoot it out to 200m they’re pretty ass. I use the KNS Precision sight on mine and I love it.
>>65157617What's wrong with the factory sights? They're easier to line up than an aperture
>>65156892Why are the techsights superior? The installation video on their site shows how difficult it is to work with. I imagine they would interfere with side rail mounted optics, whereas >>65156868 wouldn't.
>>65157708>whyNTA but peep sights work better when the rear is closer to your eye.Tech sights are at the rear, right in front of your eye. That one is at the normal notch rear sight's position, at the other end of the receiver from your eye.Tech sight sits closer to eye = performs better as a peep sight.Better at its intended purpose > easier to installHave you just never used peep sights to know how they work?
>>65157906I've got a replacement rear peep sight on an SKS, works fine, better than the original.
>>65157921Now comprehend the rest of the statement I gave you combined with that experience to deduce why tech sights are better to use as sights than a peep sight mounted on the rear sight block.
>>65157975easier to maintain > easier to installI don't need tools to field strip my AKs without techsights.>you get better performance from peep sights if they're closer to your eye>better if they're closer>betterLife is full of compromises. I'll save the techsights money towards a better optic or ammo to train with.Your snark has no power over me, nor power over the truth.
>>65157650The difference really shows up at distance. With the pistol sights you have to confirm that you have the sights both vertically and horizontally aligned and even a slight misadjustment will make you miss. Peep sights use boomer magic to make the front sight post center itself so it’s far faster and easier to get a proper acquisition. I shoot a fair number of AK competitions and found that when you’re shooting steel on the clock the peep sights really help.
>>65158071You have misquoted me, and in doing so showed you didn't comprehend what I said.I said>better to use as sightsWhich is objectively true, it's how your eyes work, the principle of "smaller hole allows for clearer picture" is one-dimensional and concrete when it comes to human eyes. The key phrase in what I said being "as sights," which you ignored to make a point about convenience. Making the gun require more effort to field strip has nothing to do with the performance of the sights, you're arguing against a point I didn't even make.You also defeated your own argument in favor of modification at all in>money towards a better optic or ammoThe gun already has iron sights on it, there is no reason to spend money on irons because you are putting an optic on it, making this entire reply chain a waste of time that you appear to be too dumb to have realized in the first place.>snarkHow would you have felt yesterday morning at about 10:30am if you hadn't had breakfast?
>>65158131You replied to a question about why techsights would be superior than the peep rear sight replacement. Not, "would they be better as sights?" which is a nonsensical non-sequitur. I would have felt hungry until eating at lunchtime.I accept your concession, and eagerly await your apology.
>>65158157>non-sequiturThe original dichotomy was the original notch sight vs peep sights in general, which was answered by an anon in the same way that I did (that tech sights are the only worthwhile peep sights). I replied to a question asking why tech sights vs a rear sight replacer, yes, and gave a reason as to why someone looking for peep sights on an AK would want tech sights over the alternative peep sight options. I answered the question as asked, giving reasons as to why one would prefer tech sights (they are better as sights). Other optics and convenience of install or field strip weren't part of the original question, just why one would pick tech sights, which I answered.This is not a non-sequitur, you are just ignoring the rest of the argument to make it seem as such, either because you genuinely aren't intelligent enough to understand the entire argument, or are simply playing dumb. Both are equally likely here, but as you go on it seems more like the former.
Both of you shut the fuck up. KNS solved the peep sight issue long time ago. Don't answer to me, i'm flying above you peasants. Only legitimate full auto owners are able to proceed on my plane.
>>65158275>KNSMostly unrelated, but are their adjustable pistons good or just a meme?
>>65158291It's an excellent product. If your AK actually needs one is a different question entirely.
>>65158291I have one in my Saiga and I’ve been very happy with it. If you have one of the bolt carriers that needs to have the piston drilled out you can mail it to KNS and they’ll install it for a few extra dollars.
>>65158432It's literally a rivet that was grounded flat. Just drill the grounded head out and punch that shit out.
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>>65142283Use Recreator ak12 parts to make an aк308
>>65158109I don't know man, I just intuitively line them up without any issue, the rear notch is about the same size as the post at least on m70 and with my eye relief, I also keep it on battle zero 99% of the time and don't shoot more than 200 meters because our ranges suck lol
>>65153234>?fbclid=PAb21jcARxz45leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA81NjcwNjczNDMzNTI0MjcAAafEv-fyFGIYRGQubLv9UuZxtJM-c2-v-Z4dRYbZakc11gaqplV5jYuXRtUKqA_aem_OD_hUXrfxs_dpy3C2NLXRgWhy did you include Facebook trackers in your link you ignorant nigger?
