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LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS SF Prep Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg==
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT: Every other day.,of 40 to 50 reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
https://pastebin.com/anMENMTD

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.
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>>65109556
sqrt(-1)st for deranged furfaggotry in the forces
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>>65109774
hitting the homes with Vanish and Doom to clear their other status effects
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>emails about range day specifically say DO NOT BRING YOUR OWN EQUIPMENT

on the one hand kek what a bitch to not read the room and do so, but also god i wish that were me
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>>65109778
>bird cocks (which I have seen, against my will, more times than I care to admit).
Do you want that password reset or not?
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>>65109556
How do I enlist in the IRGC? Does anyone have any details on this? This seemed like the most pertinent place to ask
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>>65109808
become a tranny. iran loves trannies. they were in fact one of the first countries to recognize them at all
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How to deal with juniors? I don't expect full on derangement from them, but I've found that when I have a few people under my command, all they learn is the salt and not how to do the job. I've even had to tell guys "Hey, I'm salty but I've been here for a while. I'm doing half your job for you; you don't have that right to complain so hard yet." after being told myself that my attitude is bad for the section.
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>>65109811
Actually trans people are banned from serving in Iran. But they are allowed in the US, Canada, Aus, and the UK.

I wanna be on the right side of history know what I mean?
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>>65109801
>armyfurry.jpg
>Air Force ranks
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My advisor has started talking to physicist at AFIT about sponsoring a student from our group for DoD SMART. I am pretty open about wanting to go into defense after my PhD.

What are they going to ask during the clearance process? Are they going to care about the fact that I have done acid a few times, that I have personal and family history of mental health issues, post extreme cringe on this dump, and am a general weirdo? I have no arrests, serious debt, nor too many close foreign contacts.
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>>65109836
american ranks arent real
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>>65109831
try giving them an oil check. I hear new recruits really love that
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>>65109838
>DoD SMART.
why are Hard Drives allowed to serve in the forces wtf

>>65109841
in my country the medical check is just "where are your legs"
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I now work at a helicopter school, but as a civilian tech. Should I ask my naval unit if I can go on a helicopter tactical sensor course so I know what the fuck people are trying to tell me when they say something is broken so I have a better answer than turning it off and on again?
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>>65109838
>What are they going to ask during the clearance process?
i have secret and have never had to talk to a squirrel. i did my paperwork and waited and the paperwork was just "who are your parents and are they chinese"
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>>65109889
>who are your parents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuhscoEGUKs
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>>65109838
My process was:
>fill out the contact info for character references the more the better
>if you have a job they'll verify employment and where you worked too
>have a brief video interview with a special agent that covers the same questions you went over with your recruiter
>my character references were contacted soon after by phone
And that was it. You will only hear back from the special agent if they need something cleared up. In all cases honesty is the best policy.
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>>65109920
>In all cases honesty is the best policy.
reminds me when I was just getting Enhanced Reliability. Turned out one of my contacts was too high to say anything useful. They called me and said as much, then I heard from my boy (still a little blazed) nearly crying that some government agents called him about me and he wasn't prepared.

Still got it in the end, I just had to give a different reference.
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So is anyone who posts in these threads (other than me) actually in the military and has been for a while? Or is it the ignorant leading the blind through smoke against ghosts and shadows?
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>>65109838
Read the SF86 linked in the OP, it is literally everything they will ask
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>>65109927
The number one universal problem I heard from people trying to get clearances is their contacts dont understand that THEY arent getting investigated.
Of all the contacts I gave, I was the most careful listing friends.
I had one friend who was a really square and honest dude so I used him.
He thought he was getting investigated.
You just have to make them realize its about you not them.
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>>65109834
>US
Lol
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>>65109938
Kill this nigger with a drone please.
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>>65109556

Not even lying yourself sometimes. When I went to MEPS they said I had perfect vision after I know I absolutely shat the bed on the vision test because I couldn't see shit. Asked them if they were sure that was my score after the test and they just said "we need pilots"
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>>65110000
nice quads but there is no way this isnt a larp since there is no way there is a shortage of people who want to be even transport pilots, let alone combat
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god i hope this furfag gets fucking SHOT in the streat put BULelTS in hiS HEAD until he is DEAD
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>>65110134
if you refuse to call them people or humans you eventually run out of useful words for something like a man but worse
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>>65110161
because im not gonna bust this fat nut in your face if you don't, femboy
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>>65110185
Robert, you got called out and your tactic of saying "I'm the other guy" has failed for the 6th year of use. You came here expecting to spin some bullshit tale about getting your balls fondled but instead you got ragebaited by me and a furry AND you got another Milley thread as punishment. Are you winning now, son?
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>>65110277
damn bro that's crazy haha
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Theoretically, there's an alternate universe out there where I enlist straight out of high school, get off the bus, immediately get run over by a drunk contractor driving a company vehicle, and then simultaneously file for medical retirement and a personal injury lawsuit. I'm kinda jealous of that guy.
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Planning to go to the local recruiter station in a few after they open. Wish me luck, actually pretty nervous. I will become Israel's best goy
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Threadly post

Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.

I can also interpret medical DQ concerns. Give me a day or two to respond, likely.
>branch, condition, meds, etcetera.
I cannot answer questions about how deep genesis goes, MEPS doctors, etc. I ain't a MEPS doctor.

>What do you do?
New US MD Graduate, going into residency
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Considering Enlistment. Doing a shitton of pushups/banded workouts. Got over an 80 on practice ASVAB.

Pushing myself through a low-carb cut diet cause I'm still a fat body. Has anyone been through the Army fat camp or know much about it? I haven't done a simple tape measure test for my gut but I know it needs to go.
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>>65110837
Ok wasn't that bad. Just filled out a form and they'll call me in a few days apparently. Just need to figure out what to tell my parents now because I dont just want to randomly disappear one day when I go to boot camp.
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>>65111066
Height and weight?
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>>65111066
>Has anyone been through the Army fat camp
It's not just a fat camp it's a retarded camp too and it makes smart guys like you hate the army.
You don't want to go there. They will waste your time teaching you basic multiplication and division, beginner algebra, and other shit you should have learned in elementary because other shit for brains retards you're with didn't learn what they should have.
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>>65109889
Before the Hegsethian reforms, the Chinks were able to easily get their spies into our military.
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>>65109808
troon out and cut your cock off
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>>65109556
Hello, Which job would be best to get 100 % disability

Im a 30 yo neet and looking to serve

I wanna get 100% va tho afterwards to live abroad and leave this shithole so looking for best job to get 100% va disability
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>>65111632
Anything involving combat and getting blown up
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>>65111632
Ahh, the Vietnam vet to Costa Rican permanent resident pipeline.
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>>65111690
Blown up...where? Last I checked, even SF isn't doing shit and Trump taco'd out of invading Iran.
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>>65111730
Guess you'll have to wait until orange man chimps out again
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>>65111153
>filled out a form
Oh you went to the army website and did that 3 question questionaire.
Pro tip they are NOT going to call you any time soon.
I signed my contract before a recruiter texted me from that.
You need to make an effort and show up in person to a recruiting station and speak with a recruiter.
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>>65111730
>even SF isn't doing shit
No, they're doing cool ops, just nothing that you will hear about on TV.
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>>65111827
No, I want to the airforce station in person and wrote down my personal info.
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>>65111872
nvm, confused you with the other guy who was thinking about army fat camp.
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>>65111632
Keep in mind that the VA disability is only being given out like candy because we need recruits. Once the recruitment crises ends so will the VA disability essentially.
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>>65112288
>recruiting crisis
Do recruits get any sort of goodies?
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>>65112319
Yep. However, supply and demand plays into effect. If the government keeps getting enough recruits they will have no incentive to keep giving recruits more goodies.

The government isn't your friend. They already took food from poor kids mouths.
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>>65112288
>recruitment crisis
Huh? Are you suggesting that the VA only pays disability when the military is understaffed? What kind of fucking bullshit are you attempting to spread here, Robert?
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>>65112342
For the most part, yes. Its a great recruiting tool and works better than the lame commercials the military puts out.

Not Robert btw.
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>>65112288
>>65112347
You make it sound like you sign a contract with guaranteed disability/workers compensation.
You aren't getting "disability" until you've actually served and (get this) have been dealt a long lasting physical injury that impacts your real ability to work.
Recruits don't get disability.
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>>65109556
>LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
>LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD
lying about things that can't be proven: good
lying about things that are documented: bad
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>>65112356
>you make it sound like you sign a contract with guaranteed disability/workers compensation.

There are recruits who are getting disability who haven't even pass boot camp.
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>>65112347
>Not Robert
I can smell you all the way from Eglin AFB. Your bullshit is just as incomprehensible as it always was. Explain how VA benefits go down when there are fewer recruits entering service but up when there are more? Describe the mechanism and provide quantitative evidence of VA funding charted against recruiting numbers. While you're at it, go into detail about this "recruiting crisis" that you've been whining about despite us exceeding quota across all branches.
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>>65112365
This is the part of the shit-fit you're throwing where you post the image macro of the "asian military benefits scammer" with bpd and imply that everyone in this thread is him.
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>>65112365
Yeah, and we know you're so butthurt that that one brownoid schizo got disability but you got a big fat BCD. Keep crying that you don't get benefits from the government that you want to dismantle.
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>>65112369
The fucker really is a broken record. It's astonishing that he doesn't post pictures of Dirlewanger and rant about how the US military should be raping and looting like the SS while he's at it.
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>>65112368
We increase VA disability benefits when there is a recruiting crisis because the government knows this will entice people to go into the military.

Think about it. If an 18 year old sees his friend, Grampa, Dad, ect get VA disability and taken care of he will be enticed to join the military.
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>>65112381
And where is ANY evidence that this is the case? You still can't see how retarded this sounds?
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The entire reason the VA disability system exists is because real jobs in the 1900s still gave workers comp and benefits to their employees meanwhile the US government gave nothing.
The VA disability system in practice is worker's compensation.
Disability money is not given out freely, you have to have proof and a paper trail of an actual condition or injury that persists after your service.
Thus, "disabled" veterans (in theory) only get what is owed to them rightfully.

Across the board, disabled vets don't want to get paid for conditions. They would rather not have their conditions. But they got hurt in their service so they deserve compensation at the least.

If VA didn't exist, the government would be getting sued millions of dollars for casualties by veterans and their families instead. $3k a month to a handful of servicemen who deserve it actually is a good economical compromise.
Money is fake anyway.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2C852bF6OU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj0oX97i1vo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFI1_L0DKJA
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>guy who abuses SSI by pretending to be "disabled" and "unable to work" is getting mad that military vets who have legitimate conditions and ailments are getting more gibs than him
It's a race to the bottom with Robert. Literally.
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https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_government_veterans_benefits_and_services_spending#/

Look at 50 years of data and show me the ebb and flow that should appear if the government throttles VA spending periodically. Go ahead Robert, you fat fucking retard, dispute the evidence.
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>>65112383
When in history has the government care about its own people? They literally took food out of kids mouths with the "Big Beautiful Bill".

They won't remove all VA disability completly but yes they will reduce it.

Got PTSD? You don't need that 70%. Just take this pill we develop and move along. Life if is all about who has the leverage.

>>65112384
Fun fact, you can't sue the US government without their permission.
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>>65112396
He won't argue in good faith about this just like how you won't admit that MEPS policies have changed since your boomer ass signed up 25 years ago in peak GWOT.
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>>65112399
>They won't remove all VA disability completly but yes they will reduce it.
They have never done this.
In fact they have done the opposite and raised it in accordance with inflation.
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>>65112396
Not that much considering inflation.
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>>65112400
Who's talking about MEPS here?

>>65112399
>they will reduce it
Look at the graph. When have they reduced it? Let me guess, around the same time Obama will take my guns and we all get drafted for Iran? You sure were quiet when Trump taco'd out (again), but we all saw your endless ranting about muh draft and nobody forgot who was behind every single fearmongering post.
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>>65112411
Because the government desperately need recruits. However, once it starts to be a race to the bottom they will reduce it. Why would rich people pay more than they need?
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>>65112418
USARECOM is hitting or exceeding their numbers. There is no "recruiting crisis" as much as you so desperately wish there was. I remember how delighted you were when ONE branch back in 2022 fell short.

Now go back to the graph again and show me ANY evidence to back your bullshit claim, Robert.

Or would you rather talk about how you got kicked out of the Army in 2015 for telling your DS that you wanted to go to Afghanistan and shoot children in the face like you hero Robert Bales (who is remorseful and has apologized for his actions)
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>>65112426
Again, not Robert. It barely met its goal this year after a long history of missing it. However, if the government keeps getting enough numbers to join the military especially with upcoming automation the VA benefits will start to end.
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>>65112433
Robert your poopdickschizo dumbass always quadruples down after being proven wrong, just like pissbuttfag. The only difference between him and you is that you are anti military.
I would rape both of you to death if I could.
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>>65112433
>not Robert
Confirmed Robert. This is a Robert dialogue tree that I have climbed many times. You are exhaustingly predictable with your rhetoric and your talking points have remained unchanged after years. You are wrong and you refuse to acknowledge the data presented because you are on read-only mode. I verifiably proved you wrong and I will do it again if you try to tell the same lie again.
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>>65112442
I'm anti government if that is what you mean. Also, don't threaten me with a good time.
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>>65112447
Because you didn't read what I wrote. The government has been in constant war so they need bodies badly.

However, once the government starts to automate everything then what? They already got what they want from you. Veterans on Disability are a small number so your votes won't matter to the politicians.
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>>65112458
So this is a hypothetical based on ZERO data? Yeah, glad I got you to admit this, as you were suggesting this is a historical and verifiable pattern. Instead, you are just fantasizing about living in an oppressive dystopian future, just as you always do.

>veterans on disability are a small number
Around 5 - 5.5 million is a small number? That is 50 times the population of your inbred town, Peoria, IL
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>>65112469
That is small and a huge fraction of them are Vietnam/Korean veterans who will mostly die in the next ten years.

Trump just screwed over 40 million people on SNAP lol.
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>>65112488
Straight up delusional over here. I see why you only like to share your opinions on the internet, so that you can scurry away rather than being forced to answer for yourself when pinned.

You think I am going to forget to remind you to outline where on the chart it shows any pattern of VA benefits being reduced? >>65112396
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>>65112505
Once again, we needed bodies because we were in constant wars.

When the government automates most of the military then what? Also, the chart isn't that impressive when you consider inflation.

Sorry, big daddy government doesn't care about you or me. One day you will understand leverage and how it works. Here is a video.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q31aEaEfajw
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>>65112519
Ok so you have no data to prove anything you are saying. You want to depict the VA as a rugpull waiting to happen, yet the evidence shows the complete opposite.

You are violently upset that veterans receive preferential treatment over NEETs and you are still butthurt that you didn't get to become a veteran because you couldn't even make it through BCT, which was entirely your fault. You are very mad at the idea that people you don't like (trannies, blacks, Jews, women, etc) were all able to do their time and are now benefiting from their service while you are still stuck in your mother's musty basement, larping on 4chan as anything but yourself.

Do you still have your dogtags and shirt, or did you do what 92G did and burn it all? Think about it, why did you hold onto these items if you hated the military as much as you claim to? No, you hate that you didn't get to be the evil maniac with a "license to kill", and you're butthurt that other shitbags managed to get through the filter but you got a strong shove to the chest.
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>>65112533
Woah, where is this rage coming from? I'm warning you about the evil government and you are getting mad. Also, I'm not Robert.

I have over 600k in investments and soon should be 700k if everything goes to play.

At 12% return + dividends that is ~80k a year. I'm doing more than decent. I was just trying to warn you about our evil government.
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>>65112544
Robert has a compulsive urge to respond to me at all times, no matter how much he gets bullied, and you already outed yourself a while ago. Verifiably BTFO'd, now trying to switch LARPs, as if you didn't previously admit to making around 30$k/yr. You always fall silent about the truth, so whenever you DON'T address a statement, that is how we all know it is true, Robert.

Did you also delete your Dirlewanger folder, or are you just too chickenshit to post his pictures here?
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>>65112567
I promise you, I'm not Robert. None of my posts were Anti Military. They were Anti government. Beware, once they have leverage it is OVER.
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>>65112608
Dodging the question validates my position, Robert. It's okay, this thread still has plenty of ramp for more shitposting, so you still have to look at General Milley's face for the rest of tonight and tomorrow.

You know what is funny though? If you truly want to create this narrative that Robert isn't here, then wouldn't that mean that I successfully scared him off? Wouldn't that frame me as the winner? How could you, an apparently completely different troll, ever manage to compete against the person that scared off one of the most insane faggots I have ever seen on this board?
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Newfag here who the fuck is Robert
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>>65112533
Veterans do not receive preferential treatment over NEETs except in regards to employment. Even then, only as far as tax rebates for employers. A veteran without relevant education/certification still cannot get a job solely on their military experience, they’ll need to utilize their GI bill and pursue education post-separation.
t. 42B turned HR executive
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>>65112625
I was also referencing the social aspect, as I am personally attacking Robert because he had this dream of sitting around a campfire with other vets and swapping war stories, or invoking his service to make people straighten their back and show him respect in public. Instead, he gets treated like the degenerate NEET he is, like human filth.
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>>65109556

If I lie about having had some questionable prescriptions (antipsychotics + beta blockers for heart arrythmia) in the past 10 years will they see it in MEPS?

Can I just claim I forgot? XD
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>>65112632
The social aspect is irrelevant in current year. All the old places on the “circuit” for free drinks/refills/etc for veterans got rid of those deals. The current socio-political climate is also turning against veterans. The only place I receive any sort of “social benefit” for my benefit status is on the second floor with the active-duty enlisted working bumfuck jobs for CIA/homeland security and only then because I left at a “cool” rank.

The social benefits don’t exist anymore. Arguably, they haven’t existed for around 15 years. Then again, I was a pencil pushing staff officer with a penchant for laziness, so what do I know.
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>>65111632
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>>65112722
You're misunderstanding me. Robert signed up because he had this fictional fantasy that people would stop treating him like dirt if he had a DD-214 and battle scars. The real reason he comes here is because he can't handle being disrespected and has been attempting thousands of permutations to "win" against me because I insulted him in 2020. He never cared about service or benefits or honor - he just wanted people to treat him better. Yet here, even on an anonymous anime forum, he is treated far worse than the average user. He hates being at the bottom of the totem pole, and thinks "defeating /meg/" will stop the bullying. He can't understand that the bullying ceases when he isn't here, and he didn't get it even when he disappeared for nearly a week and came back to the horror of a thread that ran perfectly fine without him and operated as if he had never existed. Nobody talking about him, good or bad, felt like the worst form of disrespect, because even infamy is preferable to obscurity for someone who feels completely alienated by society.
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>>65112710
Yes they will see it.
Just come clean already.
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>>65112779
Why would you tell AI to make this?
It just doesn't even make sense.
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>>65112802
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>>65112804
>Aim High
>Benefits Higher
Ohoho, berry good Engrish
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>>65112804
Genuinely what is the point of this?
To funnel new recruits into jobs they might not want, for the sole purpose of fucking themselves up?
No one is going to do this.

99.99% of recruits don't go to 4chan.org to look up some infographic about the military before they join the military.
Normal recruits aren't thinking about farming 100% P&T before even joining.
Normal recruits are actually thinking about a job that they both WANT to do AND that they think WONT fuck them up (even if that job is very physically demanding).
Normal recruits aren't intentionally fucking up their health to get P&T because... they're fucking HUMAN beings with bodies that are supposed to last the rest of their lives.

SHOCKER. I know. People don't want to live with crippling conditions that they intentionally caused themselves because believe it or not hurting yourself is psychotic.
But you (Robert) are posting all of this to badjacket VA benefits because you're still hung up on losing the previous argument.
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>>65112779
>be me
>enlist as infantryman
>spend 5 years jumping into and out of vehicles with gear on, rucking hella weight, inhaling JP-8 fumes, and blowing shit up without earpro
>zero knee or back pain, zero hearing loss, zero tinnitus, zero physical or mental issues
I feel a little let down
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>>65112779
>>65112804
>"Why it's perfect for NEETS"
>explains in detail why the job sucks
>"common conditions"
>lists non job related conditions
How many hours of prompting in ChatJeetPT did you have to write in order for this to come out just like how you wanted it?
It's still not good because it's AI slop.
I would imagine it took you an hour or two to prompt this. Imagine spending several hours trying to badjacket the other side of an argument you lost in.
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>>65112779
>>65112804
>never work again
Lmao if your dream is to never work again, getting 100% P&T is a dogshit way to do that.
100% P&T doesn't pay for your living everywhere in the US.
Yeah it might but your quality of life won't be great if you don't work on top of receiving disability.
There are hundreds of other paths to "never work again" that do not involve destroying your body, spending multiple years working in harsh conditions, intentionally putting yourself in shitty jobs you didn't want to work in the first place, etc.

Once again, NO VETERAN WANTS HEALTH CONDITIONS. THEY WOULD RATHER TRADE THE MONEY TO GET RID OF THE CONDITION FOREVER IF THEY COULD.
THE POINT OF DISABILITY IS BASICALLY WORKMANS COMPENSATION. WITHOUT IT, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING FOR THE WOUNDED AND AFFLICTED.

The fact that Robert was in the army and was BCD'd is proof he is pretending not to know this, yet he continues to argue in bad faith anyway.
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It's almost as if the hyperbolic bullshit that emanates from the fringes of the internet has little bearing on the real world. Robert gets tremendously upset when he is reminded that nobody listens to him because he has no personal experience and instead repeats bullshit he read on the internet. He is not a person, but instead a mindless preacher.
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