Drone Warfare and Small Agile Vehicles. Did they pretty much change the game of warfare?
>>65111924It depends on what you're trying to do. They seem to be incredibly good at disrupting civilian infrastructure and inflicting economic pain, but of limited effectiveness against typical naval and air power.Iran, for example, can't disrupt the USN's global blockade of Iranian shipping with speed boats whose range is measured in the double digit.
>>65111924Not until they launch missiles bigger than the boats are and sink the entire carrier group.
>>65111924SAVs have been around since like the 2000s with the Cole bombing, compared to drones they're much more of a nothing burger since we've trained responses against them for decadesDrones are drones but they've been exhaustingly discussed on this board anywaysIrans also been repeating this tweet for like two weeks. Unless the IRGC hardliners are retarded enough to try and offensively strike US ships, restarting the war again, the blockade will probably stay until mid May at LEAST unless new circumstances ariseExpect Nothing to ever Happen until the Iranian economy forces them to concede while rhetorically saying that they won eternally
>It will encounter a severe reaction Oh nyo.
>>65111960>SAVs have been around since like the 2000s with the Cole bombinglonger than that. they built a fleet of Boghammars in the 80s.
>>65111924Flying drones do because they are PGMs for a couple of thousand dollars.Boats don't because we have had high speed suicide boats since WW2, the only difference in less insane militaries can use them now.
>>65111960>until the Iranian economy forces them to concedeSo never, then. Because the consequences of conceeding would be worse for them than even total economic collapse.
>>65112682...you do realize that you can't pay the elites if your economy collapsedpeople switch up when they stop getting paid
>>65112684That'd be normally teh case, excpet Trump and Bibi made it clear that their goal is to erase Iran as an independent nationstate and physically annihilate its political and military leadership. Economic pain isn't going to get those elites to sign their own death warrants. Iran is sooner gonna bomb the oil and water infrastructure across the Gulf and turn Busher into Chernobyl 2.0 out of sheer spite than conceede to the cope blockade.They're also gonna be a lot more capable of weathering economic pressure than the GOPs election chances are gonna weather gas prices north of $8/ga by November.
>>65112701Trump literally showed in vuvuzela that he's completely fine with keeping elites in charge as long as they step in lineIf the IRGC stops getting paid...they'll quickly find a new way to get income that won't be helpful for those in power in Iran
>>65112709>VenezuelaNTA, but don't call the final score on that one until their next election. It's not an overnight project, don't expect overnight results.
>>65111924 even the Iranians know the speed boats are a meme otherwise they would have used them already
>>65111924>iran's armed forces WILL retaliateany day now
>>65112869they are using them, their efficacy against actual opponents instead of unarmed ships is another story
>>65112855>NTA, but don't call the final score on that one until their next electionNo one cares about the elections. What they care about is how they behave.
>>65112709And then he showed the exact opposite in Iran, starting the war with a surprise mass assassination campaign (which ironically just resulted in the IRGCs anti-american hardliners ending up in power) and following it up with outright genocidal rethoric. How do you think Venezuela would've gone if he had tried to murder half their government including Maduro and left the most hardcore ideological Chavistas the ones left to take power?>If the IRGC stops being paidThey'll just keep going, because that's what ideological fanatics do when they are in a war of survival against an enemy that has made it abundantly clear that he intends to kill them all wether they surrender or not. And those fanatics have all the means necessary to collapse the whole region and render the straits useless for a generation or two if pushed to the wall.Your whole analogy here is completely retarded, this conflict and Venezuela couldn't be more fundamentally different
>>65112988You're assigning a godlike level of competence to the group whose main achievement in the last decade is driving Iran's economy into the ground by investing into proxies that Israel has spent the last three years turning into hamburger meat.
>>65112887but the tunnels of speedboats anon, the tunnels!
>>65113005I wonder how many boats the entire country has
>>65113005The hulls of those boats aren't all that complicated to make, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had hundreds to thousands of them
>>65113005A fleet in being only works when you actually have the intention and potential to sortie it.
>>65112709>the Revolutionary Guard will turn against the revolutionLol
>>65112855A lot of Maduro loyalists have been quietly removed from office. So its safe to say that Venezuela is in step with the wishes of the US (for now at least. Some psycho Pro-Maduro guy could fuck it all up and have the military attempt another coup)
>>65113040>t-they're revolutionaries! It's in the name! They don't do anything for money!holy shit how naive can you people be
>>65113033Armed and crewed by what? Otherwise they're about as useful as a bathtub.
>>65113040Yes the IRGC is the only organization in the world that has figured out how to eliminate self-interest and human ambition.
>>65112684Still hoping for that spontaneous regime change that will make everything go away huh
>>65113057Muslims in general figured that one out many 100s of years ago
>>65113062>spontaneousDo you even know what that word means?
>>65113064The Ottomans stopped mass castrating courtiers in the 1820s.
Money is just another way to push people toward a thing, a whip works just as well.Also iran has been sanctioned for years, theyll be fine.Hopefuly they find a way to slowly starve the yids
>>65111924>small agile vehicles50 of them attacked a carrier group at the same time and every one of them was gunned down within an hour and didn't touch the carrier
>>65111924So far, Iran's speedboat fleets have failed to screen the rest of their navy worth a shit and are impotent against the blockade. They are another case of reformer retardation thinking cheap, spammable shit trumps professionalism.
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>>65111924Will they take off the gloves now?
>>65113304>Jeune École claims another victim
